Santorum wants to ban hard-core pornography

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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,623
    inlet13 wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    That said, more directly to your point... when President Obama's administration was set to "ban" asthma inhalers over environmental concerns, was he an extremist?

    Never heard of this. Can you post a link?
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/sn ... 9410.story

    That's banning CFC's as a propellant, not banning inhalers. (zip it up, your bias is showing)
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Jason P wrote:
    He must be stopped at all costs!!!

    8-)

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/rick-santorum-wants-ban-hardcore-pornography-222833811.html


    part of me thinks his subconscious thinks so too. why else would it trick him into saying un-electable things...
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    inlet13 wrote:
    Of what?

    this is how the religious right grew ... when reagan got rid of this ... it opened up a big can of worms ... one of which was the dominance of religious right radio programming on AM radio ... these organizations were able to blast their viewpoints without impunity ... thus leading to the indoctrination of the many religious right conservatives ... also, it essentially lead to what the mainstream media is today ... garbage ... corporately controlled mediums to peddle their agendas and wares ... the concept of journalistic integrity went out the window with the fairness doctrine ...
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Also - aren't conservatives for more personal freedoms? They don't want government intervening in their lives?

    I'm confused now, cause Santorum wants to ban activity between consenting adults.


    convenient conservatism.

    there are those that are for personal freedoms...but most just pay it lip service and when they realize there is some bad that comes with all the good...they run like a scared child...
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  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    Go Beavers wrote:

    That's banning CFC's as a propellant, not banning inhalers. (zip it up, your bias is showing)


    Who cares? And what are you talking about with the latter portion?

    I used an example to say that banning items (which all Presidential administrations do at some point) does not put the head of the administration into a "extremist" compartment. I disagree with Santorum and think he's got issues. But, I also think the term "extremist" is inflammatory, and honestly unnecessary. They guy is obviously not a serious candidate.

    I said, instead, why not focus on the issue rather than name-calling. In Santorum's case, there's a lot of "issues" to poke holes at here. Why cast him as an extremist and fire up those who support him? Instead, focus on the issue where the guy is all over the map.

    But, if you feel like changing this into a thread on what was banned and by whom, go ahead.
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  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    edited March 2012
    polaris_x wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    I guess then, I'd ask what if the law is not currently in support of it? In other words, in order for gay marriage to go forward in certain states, laws need to be changed, right? So, someone who votes "no" to change a current state law and permit gay marriage is an extremist?

    I don't know, I think people have a right to their opinions and a right to their vote. On the other side, they could just as easily cast a supporter in opposition as an extremist.

    In other words, you could have two people directly opposed to one another on a political issue calling each other extremists. What good does that do?

    well ... but one side is showing intolerance in this instance ... it's not completely accurate to say that the opposite view of an extremists viewpoint is also extreme ...

    this is where critical thinking comes in ...


    Well, I think most in direct opposition to your stance would side closer to you, if this was handled ever-so-slightly differently. As is, I think the other side would respond to you saying that their opposition is also intolerant, or atleast disrespectful of their beliefs. They would probably say we have had this term marriage describe a particular relationship between a man and a woman for thousands of years - it's tough to depart from that so quickly. Tolerance, on the other side, would be acknowledging that, and seek to move forward gaining what they want (legal rights, and the monetary privileges associated) with respect to that. So, why not move forward with something similar to marriage with all the same exact benefits, but rephrase the word ever-so-slightly out of respect for what has been and what people are use to? Personally, I've never understood why complete and total common ground couldn't be found by both parties here, if each were willing to budge ever-so-slightly.

    Sometimes there's a lack of respect on both sides.
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  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    polaris_x wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    Of what?

    this is how the religious right grew ... when reagan got rid of this ... it opened up a big can of worms ... one of which was the dominance of religious right radio programming on AM radio ... these organizations were able to blast their viewpoints without impunity ... thus leading to the indoctrination of the many religious right conservatives ... also, it essentially lead to what the mainstream media is today ... garbage ... corporately controlled mediums to peddle their agendas and wares ... the concept of journalistic integrity went out the window with the fairness doctrine ...

    I read this to say:

    Free-speech = bad
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    I get surprised by the closed minds of the very intelligent

    red vs blue continually ... :?

    generalizing, insulting based on color ... red/blue just another prejudice
    we all know better than that

    individual minds fit no peg hole as they shouldn't ...
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,441
    inlet13 wrote:
    They guy is obviously not a serious candidate.

    Hasn't he won as many or more states than Romney, even if the delegate math is not on his side? Sounds like a "serious candidate" to me. He obviously is connecting with a lot of people.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,464
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Also - aren't conservatives for more personal freedoms? They don't want government intervening in their lives?

    I'm confused now, cause Santorum wants to ban activity between consenting adults.
    ding ding ding...we have a winner....

    i thought they were also pro-business....

    this is out and out hypocracy....
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Anyone who supports laughter should support Rick Santorum getting the GOP nom.

    That, and could you imagine what Romney would think if he lost... To Rick Santorum?
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
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    keeponrockin wrote:
    Anyone who supports laughter should support Rick Santorum getting the GOP nom.

    That, and could you imagine what Romney would think if he lost... To Rick Santorum?

    There's a morbidly curious part of me that is rooting for Santorum. :lol:
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Anyone who supports laughter should support Rick Santorum getting the GOP nom.

    That, and could you imagine what Romney would think if he lost... To Rick Santorum?

    There's a morbidly curious part of me that is rooting for Santorum. :lol:
    For the sheer hilarity, I am.
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  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Anyone who supports laughter should support Rick Santorum getting the GOP nom.

    That, and could you imagine what Romney would think if he lost... To Rick Santorum?


    I agree with this. When the GOP debates started, there was a reason Rick Santorum was all the way on the wing. He was one of the least likely to win. He's a politician who lost his last election and is, pretty much, only known for his religious pandering. There's nothing wrong with being religious, but if that's pretty much all you're known for in over 10 years in the senate, you probably weren't too important.

    I'm betting the John Huntsman's and Tim Palenty's are kicking themselves when they look at the remaining crop (they could have really challenged Romney).
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Also - aren't conservatives for more personal freedoms? They don't want government intervening in their lives?

    I'm confused now, cause Santorum wants to ban activity between consenting adults.
    ding ding ding...we have a winner....

    i thought they were also pro-business....

    this is out and out hypocracy....
    It would be hypocritical if he supported hard core porn which is morally offensive and
    degrading to a society in general ...
    if he supported only because it is a multi billion dollar industry.

    Conservatives want smaller federal government and larger state and local involvment in
    personal freedom law makng and choices

    not necessarily more personal freedoms :?
  • Johnny Abruzzo
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    inlet13 wrote:
    I'm betting the John Huntsman's and Tim Palenty's are kicking themselves when they look at the remaining crop (they could have really challenged Romney).

    Pawlenty really screwed that one up. Huntsman never had a chance in the current version of the GOP.
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  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    I'm betting the John Huntsman's and Tim Palenty's are kicking themselves when they look at the remaining crop (they could have really challenged Romney).

    Pawlenty really screwed that one up. Huntsman never had a chance in the current version of the GOP.


    Yeh.

    P.S. Temple better not lose tonight. I got them going deep. I'm not happy that they've had so much time to rest though.
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  • RW81233
    RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    How about this thought. Santorum has some pretty extreme thoughts (we all might) but as a leader he won't be able to implement all or any of them (See: Obama). However, the republicans see this election as a pretty big uphill battle not because Obama is super-popular, but because the top 4 people they have running are named Newt, Mitt, Santorum, and some old codger with crazy ideas based on a novel (can't remember his name). As such they are going to thrown some people out their to shift the discourse to the right (as crazy as Santorum is he's connected with some people). Therefore if they win this time great, but if not, they've moved the general publics discourse further right and when they have your run-of-the-mill white, male, country clubbing Republican come up in 4 years he'll be able to say "hey I'm not extreme like that crazy Santorum, and I'm more electable that baseball glove" so vote me. Boom Republican president and 8 years of...

    I dislike the GOP but they sure know how to get things going their way.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,677
    My guess is this is just another tactic of Sanitarium's to gain attention. Just look- in one morning (half a morning's time here on the west coast) this has already generated four pages of discussion here on AMT. We do love our sensationalism! (I'm not sure if I should post rolling eyes or laughing smily).

    :lol:
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  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    If consenting adults make porn I have absolutely no problem with it.

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