The National Football League

Jason P

"One thing I can say is that sometimes in life, you will fail," Rice said. "But I won’t call myself a failure. Failure is not getting knocked down; it’s not getting up."

"I do deeply regret the role that I played in the incident that night," Janay Rice said.

If Mike Tyson hit me with an uppercut, I also would deeply regret the role I played.

JK_Livin

How powerful is money in that she wouldn't press charges? I guess she needed that gravy train more than her pride.

F Me In The Brain

JK_Livin said:

How powerful is money in that she wouldn't press charges? I guess she needed that gravy train more than her pride.

My sister was broke and so was her useless excuse for a human being fucking boyfriend and she covered for him for a while. (Until his luck ran out. For real.)
It could be more than money - those of us who wouldn't let anyone do that might not be able to relate to someone who would.

Regardless Goddell should go if he saw this video and thought 2 days meant anything for the league.

JK_Livin

The NFL is saying they never saw this video. If that's the case, Rice will never play again.

F Me In The Brain

they could have forced him to show to prove he didnt beat her. We all knew there was video from inside the elevator.

Wonder if the league can take any further action....

Jason P

I find it hard to believe that the NFL didn't see the video beforehand. If they didn't, the NFL is admitting gross incompetence in their investigation.

It happened in a casino. There are more cameras per square foot in a casino then just about anywhere in the world. Plus it happened in an elevator, where just about every elevator has a camera nowadays.

Roger Goodell makes Gary Bettman look like a diabolical mastermind, but as long as the owners are making shitloads of money, no worries.

MayDay10

I actually think Gary Bettman is the best commish of the "Big 4"

Cliffy6745

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/93666912/ray-rice-video-ray-mcdonald-nfl-domestic-violence

pjhawks

JK_Livin said:

The NFL is saying they never saw this video. If that's the case, Rice will never play again.

agree but how with video evidence can't they put this scumbag in jail is beyond me.

Goodell and the NFL office butchered this so bad. someone has get fired for this.

Cliffy6745

http://deadspin.com/someone-is-lying-about-whether-the-nfl-saw-the-ray-rice-1631901404

Ledbetterman10

She didn't even appear to provoke him. He started pushing her, she moved towards him, and he dropped her. He's a pathetic piece of shit...but so is she. Who stays with and lies for someone who knocks u out??

F Me In The Brain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lHa4hUTWydw


Sorry, as fucking angry as I am about the RR situation, and as concerned as I am about the team I am a fan of possibly going down a similar path (time will tell I hope)...I have to talk shit on the Cowboys.

Jearlpam0925

Not to be dick on this, but I'm assuming it's because you guys are actually seeing him hit her that it makes it worse? I mean, what did you think happened behind those closed doors when she spilled out of the elevator?

It doesn't make it worse now that we see her get socked in the face, and therefore are furious Rice only got two games. Pretty sure everyone should be furious from the minute he only got 2 games.

I can't wait till Welker and Gordon are both back playing in the league a few weeks from now because of this.

Jason P

Me thinks the NFL knew this video was going to leak, thus Goodell's letter to the owners and tougher fines for domestic abuse setting a poorly thought out smoke screen a week ago.

Jearlpam0925 said:

Not to be dick on this, but I'm assuming it's because you guys are actually seeing him hit her that it makes it worse? I mean, what did you think happened behind those closed doors when she spilled out of the elevator?

It doesn't make it worse now that we see her get socked in the face, and therefore are furious Rice only got two games. Pretty sure everyone should be furious from the minute he only got 2 games.

I can't wait till Welker and Gordon are both back playing in the league a few weeks from now because of this.

It doesn't help when the NFL, Ray Rice, and his fiance and the Ravens organization were spinning that she may have provoked the incident. And let's not let Johnny Law off the hook either. I could not imagine the prosecutor letting him enter a "not guilty" plea based on seeing that video.

JK_Livin

I think the video makes it worse because I don't know what happened in the elevator and unfortunately have to trust the powers that be, The Justice System, NFL & The Ravens, to do the right thing. Sorry, but I've never seen a pro athlete spit on a woman twice and then knock her out. Based on the punishment, I hope they didn't see that video.

Cliffy6745

Jearlpam0925 said:

Not to be dick on this, but I'm assuming it's because you guys are actually seeing him hit her that it makes it worse? I mean, what did you think happened behind those closed doors when she spilled out of the elevator?

It doesn't make it worse now that we see her get socked in the face, and therefore are furious Rice only got two games. Pretty sure everyone should be furious from the minute he only got 2 games.

I can't wait till Welker and Gordon are both back playing in the league a few weeks from now because of this.

I think it makes it worse because everyone involved (including her) talked like she "asked" for it when in reality he just fucking hooked her twice. Not that anyone with half a brain cell thought that that made any difference, but just the way it was looked at. I figured that it was something like Beyonce's sister going ape shit on Jay Z in that elevator, again, not that that makes the situation any better.

F Me In The Brain

Jearlpam0925 said:

Not to be dick on this, but I'm assuming it's because you guys are actually seeing him hit her that it makes it worse? I mean, what did you think happened behind those closed doors when she spilled out of the elevator?

It doesn't make it worse now that we see her get socked in the face, and therefore are furious Rice only got two games. Pretty sure everyone should be furious from the minute he only got 2 games.

I can't wait till Welker and Gordon are both back playing in the league a few weeks from now because of this.

Maybe a moving train topic more than NFL thread....but I agree on what you are stating to a certain extent and I was absolutely furious (check back through a number of threads) at 2 games. I, for one, believed I knew what happened on that elevator....but the idea that there was any question and we had to rely on other accounts (Fuckbag and Fiance) muddied the water for many and that was the excuse that was used.

Seeing it does make it worse in the court of public opinion. Maybe some positive will come out of this farce called Roger Goddell's justice system.

Your point that it shouldn't take seeing it is one that I agree with but what about all of the reports that happen where we dont have any proof positive and it is a he-said, she-said thing? (Or, more sadly, a reported incident that the abuse victim denies happened when it comes down to it...) Ray McDonald for the 49ers, for example, I think they should be benching him until the whole truth comes out and cut him if it looks like he did it when all is reviewed...but who are we to know what really happened? If we had video any of that doubt would be removed, right? Who cares if she said/did anything to big tough Ray Rice, the video is damning and he should be held accountable for his actions and not given probation by the cops and a free pass by the NFL while they claim that they are offended by this and have doled out appropriate punishment.

And, btw, I totally agree that it would be good to see serious crimes treated seriously and joke crimes (smoking weed) treated like joke crimes.

Call it like it is NFL -- Gordon seemed like a bad seed and Rice seemed like a good guy. They dished out penalties accordingly.
Gordon might be many things but I cant watch a tape of him knocking out the love of his life.

Jearlpam0925

F Me In The Brain said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Not to be dick on this, but I'm assuming it's because you guys are actually seeing him hit her that it makes it worse? I mean, what did you think happened behind those closed doors when she spilled out of the elevator?

It doesn't make it worse now that we see her get socked in the face, and therefore are furious Rice only got two games. Pretty sure everyone should be furious from the minute he only got 2 games.

I can't wait till Welker and Gordon are both back playing in the league a few weeks from now because of this.

Maybe a moving train topic more than NFL thread....but I agree on what you are stating to a certain extent and I was absolutely furious (check back through a number of threads) at 2 games. I, for one, believed I knew what happened on that elevator....but the idea that there was any question and we had to rely on other accounts (Fuckbag and Fiance) muddied the water for many and that was the excuse that was used.

Seeing it does make it worse in the court of public opinion. Maybe some positive will come out of this farce called Roger Goddell's justice system.

Your point that it shouldn't take seeing it is one that I agree with but what about all of the reports that happen where we dont have any proof positive and it is a he-said, she-said thing? (Or, more sadly, a reported incident that the abuse victim denies happened when it comes down to it...) Ray McDonald for the 49ers, for example, I think they should be benching him until the whole truth comes out and cut him if it looks like he did it when all is reviewed...but who are we to know what really happened? If we had video any of that doubt would be removed, right? Who cares if she said/did anything to big tough Ray Rice, the video is damning and he should be held accountable for his actions and not given probation by the cops and a free pass by the NFL while they claim that they are offended by this and have doled out appropriate punishment.

And, btw, I totally agree that it would be good to see serious crimes treated seriously and joke crimes (smoking weed) treated like joke crimes.

Call it like it is NFL -- Gordon seemed like a bad seed and Rice seemed like a good guy. They dished out penalties accordingly.
Gordon might be many things but I cant watch a tape of him knocking out the love of his life.

Yeah, AMT might be better here but, yes, this is what I'm saying.

Whether she instigated it or not - bottom line - she fell, directly on her face, due to being slugged in the face. By a man.

By this logic I'm assuming people would be fine with a 2-week suspension if the only evidence of what happened was a swollen eye and a tooth missing? Just because we didn't see it makes the 2-week suspension ok?

That's all I'm saying. OK, we saw it - we saw what it takes to make a woman fall on her face unconsciously. I wouldn't think he gave her a wet willy with the doors shut. How does this change how much of a pieaceashit he is? That's my only point is all. 2 weeks was ludicrous then, and it's just as ludicrous now.

Indifference71

Ravens just released Rice.

So apparently the Ravens were OK with him dragging his unconscious girlfriend out of an elevator. But now that the video has surfaced of him knocking her out, they FINALLY do something. I guess just knowing that it happened wasn't enough for them. What a fucking mess for the Ravens and NFL.

FrankieG

ray rice terminated by Ravens ?
That what i just got told from a coworker, but he doesn't have source, nor could I find one..