Has This Train Derailed?

Commy

Byrnzie wrote:

At the risk of sounding pompous and/or sanctimonious, what the fuck is going on here lately? The Train has sunk to it's lowest point in the past five years, in my opinion.

Racists, trolls, self-proclaimed friends of 'God' himself, bigots....

I created a thread on a recent article of Chomsky's discussing racism in the present day, and the thread descended into a racist tirade against Africans, and personal attacks on other posters. The thread was then locked.



I've had a few pm's over the past 24 hours praising my comments in a thread saying how this place has become filled with bullshit.

Is this place really representative of Pearl Jam anymore? I could be wrong, but doesn't this band represent intelligence, imagination, conscientious activism, (I hesitate to say 'left-wing' because that term doesn't really mean anything to me) - feel free to add your own adjectives.....

There have always been people of all different persuasions - political or otherwise - on here locking horns, and generally stating their points of view, but lately this place seems to have been overrun by some pretty shitty characters. What the fuck is going on? Is this indicative of the U.S in general?

I just don't get it. How does this band attract racists, or bigots? Do people not listen to their lyrics, or listen to Ed speak between songs, or pay any attention to their activism outside of the band? What would cause someone who says 'I love the death penalty' to follow this band? It would be like me deciding to become a fan of Ted Nugent, or Mick Hucknall. I would need a fucking lobotomy first.


And, yeah, I know I'm not perfect. I know I really shouldn't post pictures of mutant Ninja turtle armchair warriors, and Yoda. But really, I used to come here knowing that on any given day I could find an engaging topic, discussion, debate, news item, e.t.c. But now it's just gotten to resemble a school playground with shit-slinging and ignorance being the norm.

Answers on a postcard please...

i would say this board is exactly representative of pearljam. an ok band with average fans.

catefrances

Commy wrote:

i would say this board is exactly representative of pearljam. an ok band with average fans.

and yet here you are. :think:

Commy

catefrances wrote:

Commy wrote:

i would say this board is exactly representative of pearljam. an ok band with average fans.

and yet here you are. :think:

eh. if chuck ragan or dave hause had a forum i'd be there.


this place used to be ok. had some good times here

polaris_x

Godfather. wrote:

are you serious ??...you're trolling right now..you do see that, don't you ?....instagating is trolling right ?
I would say a lot of us need to re-think how we react and post on here,I'm as guilty as some but then again so are you.

Godfather.

please explain how i am trolling ...

Hugh Freaking Dillon

catefrances wrote:

but to think because we all listen to pearl jam we all share the same opinions, awareness and/or desire to become aware is in my view shortsighted. and even perhaps a little naive.

I agree completely, much the same as I'm sure not everyone who listens to Britney Spears or Bieber is a complete moron.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

polaris_x wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

are you serious ??...you're trolling right now..you do see that, don't you ?....instagating is trolling right ?
I would say a lot of us need to re-think how we react and post on here,I'm as guilty as some but then again so are you.

Godfather.

please explain how i am trolling ...

don't even, polaris. it's not worth it. you're taking the bait.......

Thoughts_Arrive

Godfather. wrote:

Santonio, have Rocco take care of this and have him see me....

Godfather.

I thought you'd give the job to Luca Brasi

Thoughts_Arrive

Godfather. wrote:

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

I can grant you this favor for you, someday the time may come that I ask you to preform a service for me and that day may never come but if it does will you be ready to preform that service for me ?

Godfather.

Yes Godfather, anytime I will be there for you, and do what you ask of me.

ahh good then, condider this a gift on this day of my daughters wedding.

Godfather.

Thank you Godfather *kisses your hand*

Thoughts_Arrive

Jason P wrote:

What is a bogan?

In American terms, a hillbilly I think.
An uncultured person.
Usually does not wish to work, spends the money he/she has on smokes and booze, is abusive etc etc

pandora

"A meeting of the minds" ... this would be awesome! Well put Kat.

Let's try this and kindness. Acceptance of each other, forgiveness and respect.

I look forward to that

I think though we should refrain from calling others idiots, among other insults,
cause that doesn't lend well for good communication.

Godfather.

I think most of us might superize each other when we find out how different we are in person apart from the train.

Godfather.

Godfather.

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Santonio, have Rocco take care of this and have him see me....

Godfather.

I thought you'd give the job to Luca Brasi

ha ha Luca took a sucker punch but Rocco as quite as he was had scary deminer ha ha ha

Godfather.

Thoughts_Arrive

pjfan31

Kat wrote:

Self-examination can be a good thing. I hope this discussion continues in a civilized way and produces a good result with that in mind....the meeting of the minds.

I wish each and every one of you could be seated in one room so you could see each other and then discuss what's on your minds. It would be good to think of A Moving Train as that room in reality. The computer or device you post from is only a means of delivering the communication of thoughts that mean something to you. There's a living, breathing human being behind each posted message.

I'm pretty sure about that last thing. As far as the OP goes...this place is nothing if not opinions. That's my opinion.

Take good care of each other please...and have a lovely evening, day, morning, whichever applies to your time zone. My very best to you all.

x

Great idea all of us getting together... And thank you Kat for offering to fly us all to pj headquarters?

brianlux

pjfan31 wrote:

Kat wrote:

Self-examination can be a good thing. I hope this discussion continues in a civilized way and produces a good result with that in mind....the meeting of the minds.

I wish each and every one of you could be seated in one room so you could see each other and then discuss what's on your minds. It would be good to think of A Moving Train as that room in reality. The computer or device you post from is only a means of delivering the communication of thoughts that mean something to you. There's a living, breathing human being behind each posted message.

I'm pretty sure about that last thing. As far as the OP goes...this place is nothing if not opinions. That's my opinion.

Take good care of each other please...and have a lovely evening, day, morning, whichever applies to your time zone. My very best to you all.

x

Great idea all of us getting together... And thank you Kat for offering to fly us all to pj headquarters?

Yeah! Let's do it!

"Take good care of each other please...and have a lovely evening, day, morning, whichever applies to your time zone." A wonderful idea... every day.

even flow - question mark

I dig Pearl Jam and I think that the death penalty should exist. It's an opinion for pete's sake. Sometimes I wonder if some people can take a joke, while they ride around on their high horses. When everything has been discussed for years and years, I think you can fill in the rest about a dead horse.

catefrances

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

catefrances wrote:

but to think because we all listen to pearl jam we all share the same opinions, awareness and/or desire to become aware is in my view shortsighted. and even perhaps a little naive.

I agree completely, much the same as I'm sure not everyone who listens to Britney Spears or Bieber is a complete moron.

my 12 year old daughter listens to bieber and shes not even part moron.

Byrnzie

even flow - question mark wrote:

I dig Pearl Jam and I think that the death penalty should exist. It's an opinion for pete's sake. Sometimes I wonder if some people can take a joke, while they ride around on their high horses. When everything has been discussed for years and years, I think you can fill in the rest about a dead horse.

There's a difference between someone thinking the death penalty should exist, and someone saying 'I love the death penalty'.
There's also a difference between someone thinking the death penalty should exist, and someone saying 'I love the death penalty' in a thread that had nothing to do with the death penalty.

For someone to say they love the death penalty, they need to be fucking sick in the head. It's a pity that you fail to see that.

Anyway, that was just one example. I could also have mentioned people coming on here calling for Muslims to be bombed - "bomb the motherfuckers, and then again, and again, and again" - or people coming on here saying how gays makes them sick, or how Palestinians are nomadic terrorists.

This kind of twisted, racist swill just doesn't sit right with me in relation to a band whose views are diametrically opposed to this bullshit.

even flow - question mark

Byrnzie wrote:

Anyway, that was just one example. I could also have mentioned people coming on here calling for Muslims to be bombed - "bomb the motherfuckers, and then again, and again, and again" - or people coming on here saying how gays makes them sick, or how Palestinians are nomadic terrorists.

Have you never visited the United States of America? That kind of stuff sure dosen't shock me.

whygohome

"Actually we are a vulgar, pushing mob whose passions are easily mobilized by demagogues, newspaper men, religious quacks, agitators and such like. To call this a society of free peoples is blasphemous. What have we to offer the world besides the superabundant loot which we recklessly plunder from the earth under the maniacal delusion that this insane activity represents progress and enlightenment?"
--Henry Miller