these fools are gonna try and take over wall street

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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    does anyone know what they are protesting? for something? against something? I don't get it.
    It's frustrating to read this question over and over again...this has been going on for what? Nearly two months? and every single time it's been asked,it's answered almost exactly the same way:
    The folks occupying Wall Street, or whatever street, are protesting the inequities in our society.

    If you believe that the millionaires should be given more tax breaks then go ahead and support the rich.

    If you believe that the unemployed and the poor need help then listen up.
    That's from the previous page.

    I'm sorry to be blunt, but the question always strikes me as intellectual laziness, since it's the same question the media has been repeating ad nauseum since this started.
    I don't even understand why someone would oppose the protests...why oppose people voicing their opinions? what's wrong with that?
    Yes, if you have a beef, it's your RIGHT to go down there and hold up a sign. And I would say good for you.
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056


    well considering you live nowhere near here...i would say believe me and the news i watch every night
    ...because the news would never use the same hyperbole you just did....they would never mislead anyone to fit an agenda....
  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    polaris_x wrote:
    dude ... you see things the way you want to see them ... it's cool ... but these protestors need to eat - you telling me not one business has benefited from a massive influx of people!? ... c'mon ...

    i dunno, if i was a local shop owner in that immediate area, i would be more concerned with protecting my shop, than opening it up to these "people."

    how close were they to a full riot yesterday? the last thing i would want is for someone to hurl bricks through my windows and loot what is mine.
  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057


    well considering you live nowhere near here...i would say believe me and the news i watch every night
    ...because the news would never use the same hyperbole you just did....they would never mislead anyone to fit an agenda....


    they have the store owners on tv ..wtf are you talking about???

    please ..nobody is going to the stores in the area because they are being harassed by these bums...hence the stores are losing a ton of money and thus laying people off work

    i know you just like to dispute everything i say..but you are clueless on this topic
    all you know is what you see on the internet...i live and work 5 minutes away
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,448
    Personally I'd believe someone who actually works in the area over someone who is just watching the news. I haven't been in that area since Labor Day weekend, so I have no idea what is going on other than what the news tells me.
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  • rick1zoo2
    rick1zoo2 between a rock and a dumb place Posts: 12,632
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    does anyone know what they are protesting? for something? against something? I don't get it.
    It's frustrating to read this question over and over again...this has been going on for what? Nearly two months? and every single time it's been asked,it's answered almost exactly the same way:
    The folks occupying Wall Street, or whatever street, are protesting the inequities in our society.

    If you believe that the millionaires should be given more tax breaks then go ahead and support the rich.

    If you believe that the unemployed and the poor need help then listen up.
    That's from the previous page.

    I'm sorry to be blunt, but the question always strikes me as intellectual laziness, since it's the same question the media has been repeating ad nauseum since this started.
    I don't even understand why someone would oppose the protests...why oppose people voicing their opinions? what's wrong with that?
    Yes, if you have a beef, it's your RIGHT to go down there and hold up a sign. And I would say good for you.


    Intellectual laziness? I am all for people being able to speak out about things, but they have been at this for a while and we still don't get what they are protesting, it doesn't make sense. And without a good cause, they are just inconveniencing people for no reason.
  • I'm sorry, but the answer you quoted is such an over-the-top attempt to make it seem like the 1% are evil and the protesters are angels. I don't think people here who disagree with the protesters have ever advocated more tax breaks for the wealthy. I am not aware of anyone in this country pushing for increased tax cuts at all, really. That argument is no different than saying anyone who votes for medicinal marijuana is in favor of handing out bongs in kindergarten.
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    does anyone know what they are protesting? for something? against something? I don't get it.
    It's frustrating to read this question over and over again...this has been going on for what? Nearly two months? and every single time it's been asked,it's answered almost exactly the same way:
    The folks occupying Wall Street, or whatever street, are protesting the inequities in our society.

    If you believe that the millionaires should be given more tax breaks then go ahead and support the rich.

    If you believe that the unemployed and the poor need help then listen up.
    That's from the previous page.

    I'm sorry to be blunt, but the question always strikes me as intellectual laziness, since it's the same question the media has been repeating ad nauseum since this started.
    I don't even understand why someone would oppose the protests...why oppose people voicing their opinions? what's wrong with that?
    Yes, if you have a beef, it's your RIGHT to go down there and hold up a sign. And I would say good for you.
  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    by the way..someone slashed a cop yesterday :roll:

    very peaceful
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056


    they have the store owners on tv ..wtf are you talking about???

    please ..nobody is going to the stores in the area because they are being harassed by these bums...hence the stores are losing a ton of money and thus laying people off work

    i know you just like to dispute everything i say..but you are clueless on this topic
    all you know is what you see on the internet...i live and work 5 minutes away
    I'm talking about you exaggerating to fit your agenda...which is probably the same thing the media is doing. I'm sure not 'every single business in the area is hurting and laying people off'. But it helps your angle to say so.

    I'd like to check some stats on that....and compare the number of people laid off to the number of people laid off by the shady practices of the companies you just mentioned. I don't see you screaming bloody murder about the banks....

    I understand that this protest somewhat lacks focus as far as a list of demands, or solutions go. I understand that they are inconveniencing people.
    And you know what? I didn't read a single article, or watch ten seconds of footage of what went on yesterday.
    I'm simply saying that the outrage some of you people are voicing against the protesters is seriously disproportionate to the outrage over, say, the bonuses handed out to bank execs after the bailouts, or a million other examples of this broken system.
    It's having your bus delayed by a protest that's gonna get you to stand up to injustice?
  • rick1zoo2
    rick1zoo2 between a rock and a dumb place Posts: 12,632


    they have the store owners on tv ..wtf are you talking about???

    please ..nobody is going to the stores in the area because they are being harassed by these bums...hence the stores are losing a ton of money and thus laying people off work

    i know you just like to dispute everything i say..but you are clueless on this topic
    all you know is what you see on the internet...i live and work 5 minutes away
    I'm talking about you exaggerating to fit your agenda...which is probably the same thing the media is doing. I'm sure not 'every single business in the area is hurting and laying people off'. But it helps your angle to say so.

    I'd like to check some stats on that....and compare the number of people laid off to the number of people laid off by the shady practices of the companies you just mentioned. I don't see you screaming bloody murder about the banks....

    I understand that this protest somewhat lacks focus as far as a list of demands, or solutions go. I understand that they are inconveniencing people.
    And you know what? I didn't read a single article, or watch ten seconds of footage of what went on yesterday.
    I'm simply saying that the outrage some of you people are voicing against the protesters is seriously disproportionate to the outrage over, say, the bonuses handed out to bank execs after the bailouts, or a million other examples of this broken system.
    It's having your bus delayed by a protest that's gonna get you to stand up to injustice?


    :?:
  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    i have no idea what he is talking about


    come and live in the area for a week and see how you feel
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    rival. wrote:
    i dunno, if i was a local shop owner in that immediate area, i would be more concerned with protecting my shop, than opening it up to these "people."

    how close were they to a full riot yesterday? the last thing i would want is for someone to hurl bricks through my windows and loot what is mine.

    i have no doubt some businesses have lost money and if i worked at say the GAP - i'd be worried too ... i definitely think the components are there for a full scale riot ... but we're talking about a culture that riots over sporting events here ... you don't need a big spark to light the fire ...

    at the end of the day tho - the question you have to ask yourself is this: are there problems with the current political economic system that need to be changed? ... if yes - how do you propose those changes be made and the problems be heard?
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    i have no idea what he is talking about


    come and live in the area for a week and see how you feel

    the fact you don't understand what he is saying probably should indicate to you why you are so against this movement ...
  • rick1zoo2
    rick1zoo2 between a rock and a dumb place Posts: 12,632
    polaris_x wrote:
    i have no idea what he is talking about


    come and live in the area for a week and see how you feel

    the fact you don't understand what he is saying probably should indicate to you why you are so against this movement ...

    excellent point. because he is making no more sense than the protesters.
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    :?:
    well stated :roll:
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    excellent point. because he is making no more sense than the protesters.

    i understood him perfectly ...
  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    polaris_x wrote:
    i have no idea what he is talking about


    come and live in the area for a week and see how you feel

    the fact you don't understand what he is saying probably should indicate to you why you are so against this movement ...


    more like i stopped reading it after the first sentence


    all you people who live nowhere near here have no clue whats really going on

    i see it everyday with my own eyes

    im not saying don't protest....just do it in a better way
    harassing the hard working people and peoplle who live in the area is not being productive
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • rick1zoo2
    rick1zoo2 between a rock and a dumb place Posts: 12,632
    I am with you on this neily. Seems like a protest for no apparent reason. either say something or go home.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    more like i stopped reading it after the first sentence


    all you people who live nowhere near here have no clue whats really going on

    i see it everyday with my own eyes

    im not saying don't protest....just do it in a better way
    harassing the hard working people and peoplle who live in the area is not being productive

    my gf lives in NY and i'm there like once a month ... she was down there yesterday and has been down there often ...
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    I am with you on this neily. Seems like a protest for no apparent reason. either say something or go home.

    dude ... at least neily acknowledges the need for a protest ... he just doesn't agree with the methods ... perhaps you should figure out why there are people protesting!?
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