Penn State Scandal

davidtrios

im talking about enrollment, new students

davidtrios

im curious to hear from parents who have/had high school juniors/seniors.

would they still consider penn st a good school? would they prefer their children to look elsewhere?

PureandEasy

My niece graduated from there last year and is working as a teacher at a local Charter school, while her boyfriend, an engineering student, finishes his last year at Penn State. He has no intention on leaving, Penn State is a very good school.

He has already secured a job with Boeing out in Southern California and will begin next spring.

You dont' get a job with a company like Boeing without a first rate education.

Penn State may have to worry about athletic enrollment, but I think their academic programs speak for themselves.

NoCode416

Davidtrios wrote:

im curious to hear from parents who have/had high school juniors/seniors.

would they still consider penn st a good school? would they prefer their children to look elsewhere?

the scandal will have zero impact on the number of students who are enrolled in future classes. if anything, i would expect enrollment to go up.

the SAT/gpa numbers might regress slightly... i could see that.

there are only two other large public universities in pennsylvania... is it possible that someone who gets into all three might be swayed towards temple or pitt because of this? well, of course.

comebackgirl

Davidtrios wrote:

i can see penn st going under...who in their right mind would even consider enrolling??

edit: New enrollment...no one ever said anything about dropping out

The school won't go under. They're going to take a hit, but they won't go under. This is by far not the first cover up linked to a school. New Title IX guidelines came out this year in response to some horrific coverups at universities. They just don't always get this much attention.

Ledbetterman10

A wonderful, scathing commentary:

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/723 ... penn-state

polaris_x

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

A wonderful, scathing commentary:

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/723 ... penn-state

yup

It happens because institutions lie. And today, our major institutions lie because of a culture in which loyalty to "the company," and protection of "the brand" — that noxious business-school shibboleth that turns employees into brainlocked elements of sales and marketing campaigns — trumps conventional morality, traditional ethics, civil liberties, and even adherence to the rule of law. It is better to protect "the brand" than it is to protect free speech, the right to privacy, or even to protect children.

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this culture exists throughout society ... unlike what so many want to believe, this behaviour goes far beyond the walls of penn state ... sadly, i don't think the people have the guts to see how it's permeated our society ...

davidtrios

davidtrios

cliffy, is that you?

Cliffy6745

Davidtrios wrote:

cliffy, is that you?

Ha, it's not. I have slightly more hair than that.

patrickredeyes

comebackgirl wrote:

Davidtrios wrote:

i can see penn st going under...who in their right mind would even consider enrolling??

edit: New enrollment...no one ever said anything about dropping out

The school won't go under. They're going to take a hit, but they won't go under. This is by far not the first cover up linked to a school. New Title IX guidelines came out this year in response to some horrific coverups at universities. They just don't always get this much attention.

Yes not the first cover up by a school but this is the biggest cover up/scandal of all time. Life will go on but form here on out when people think of Penn State this situation will always be brought up. You can't sweep something like this under the rug.

chadwick

Davidtrios wrote:

i see a johnson resting on some old guy's face. haha. funny cartoon.

chadwick

81 wrote:

90K people are all just going to drop out tommorrow and they will shutter the campus buildings by wed. night.

lets be real.


speaking of being real.....why am i even replying to this sillyness.

because you are fun and make us laugh w/ your witty commentary

what's for dinner? (wrong thread, sorry)

davidtrios

patrickredeyes wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

Davidtrios wrote:

i can see penn st going under...who in their right mind would even consider enrolling??

edit: New enrollment...no one ever said anything about dropping out

The school won't go under. They're going to take a hit, but they won't go under. This is by far not the first cover up linked to a school. New Title IX guidelines came out this year in response to some horrific coverups at universities. They just don't always get this much attention.

Yes not the first cover up by a school but this is the biggest cover up/scandal of all time. Life will go on but form here on out when people think of Penn State this situation will always be brought up. You can't sweep something like this under the rug.

if i was hiring 5 years from now and i saw Penn St on a candidate's resume, I would seriously think twice about that person's decision making abilities.

Johnny Abruzzo

Davidtrios wrote:

if i was hiring 5 years from now and i saw Penn St on a candidate's resume, I would seriosuly think twice about that person's decision making abilities.

Decision to attend an excellent, relatively affordable institution? Or the person who racked up $150K in loans? Your posts in this thread have been idiotic.

For the record, I am not a PSU alum, have never been to PSU, and used to hate the PSU football team. Now I'm just indifferent. I do know many PSU grads, all of whom are good, upstanding citizens, and none of whom had anything to do with this scandal.

Cliffy6745

Davidtrios wrote:

if i was hiring 5 years from now and i saw Penn St on a candidate's resume, I would seriously think twice about that person's decision making abilities.

This takes the cake, dude. Now I just think you are trying to come up with outrageous shit to say to get a reaction.

chadwick

Davidtrios wrote:

if i was hiring 5 years from now and i saw Penn St on a candidate's resume, I would seriosuly think twice about that person's decision making abilities.

interesting

because monsters lurk amongst nonemonsters, which is difficult to tell between the two sometimes, because of this you would think extra long and hard on hiring someone who graduated from penn state because they attended a school w/ a child molester as a assisstant football coach and this penn state graduate may not make the correct decisions as far as you are concerned?

comebackgirl

patrickredeyes wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

Davidtrios wrote:

i can see penn st going under...who in their right mind would even consider enrolling??

edit: New enrollment...no one ever said anything about dropping out

The school won't go under. They're going to take a hit, but they won't go under. This is by far not the first cover up linked to a school. New Title IX guidelines came out this year in response to some horrific coverups at universities. They just don't always get this much attention.

Yes not the first cover up by a school but this is the biggest cover up/scandal of all time. Life will go on but form here on out when people think of Penn State this situation will always be brought up. You can't sweep something like this under the rug.

As I said, the school will take a hit, but Virginia Tech didn't go under after many lapses didn't stop a killing spree. The event actually spurred campuses to put behavioral intervention teams into place and alerting systems. I hope this case will bring about greater awareness about mandated reporting laws and stiffer penalties for bystanders, but the school isn't going under. Eastern Michigan University is still standing after violating the Clery Act and covering up a rape and murder. Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Duke and the University of Virginia all had sexual misconduct violations that led to the Dear Colleague letter that was released this year and the new Title IX changes. I work with sexual abuse victims and specifically with this issue on a college campus, so sadly I know all too well this sort of stuff happens all the time and we just never hear about it. I'm glad we heard about this because it is at such a huge scale, but the issue runs much deeper than most people realize.

Cliffy6745

I wouldn't hire someone who lives in the same city as someone who raped a kid. I mean if you choose to live in the same city as a child rapist what kind of decision making ability do you have.

Do you realize how absurd this sounds?

comebackgirl

I don't want to shock anyone...but every single one of us knows someone who's molested a kid. Whether you realize it or not. Do people really think this issue is that rare :? I mean I wish it were...but time to pull our heads out of the sand.