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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    if it walks like a duck ...

    yeah ... so, a murderer may not be a horrible person ... nor a child rapist ... nor osama bin laden for that matter ... because even tho they do horrible things - they aren't really horrible ... :fp:

    lance is not an asshole for cheating ... he's an asshole because that's his personality ... he's a bully and he's a liar ... it's easy to generate good vibes at a charity event when you lie ... i wonder how many of those people who helped pony up money to fight cancer feels knowing a lot of that went to promote him and into his pocket? ... it's easy to be viewed as a hero when you lie ... the reality is he is a big fraud ... i'll take honesty and integrity over bully and fraud every day of the week ...
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
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    I am willing to bet a box of Twinkies.

    At some point in this interview with "Oprah and her Gynormous Buttcheeks".
    Lance will bring up a dead relative.
    At some point Lance will go for sympathy, and bring up either a dead mother, father, sister, brother, etc.
    Anyone want to take that bet? If I lose I will be more than happy to ship you a box of Twinkies.
    But I have a feeling it is a safe bet.
    I have seen it before with lying, thieving, pieces of garbage.
    They instantly use a dead relative for sympathy.
    It is a given.
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    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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    Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    Top Ten Other Lance Armstrong Revelations

    Wednesday, January 16, 2013

    10. Artificially enhanced his cycling shorts

    9. Still never leaves the house without several vials of clean urine

    8. Owns Texas real estate known as "Rancho Decepto"

    7. Took steroids to work up the strength to admit taking steroids

    6. Once had an inappropriate relationship with an air hose

    5. Also has tattoo of Rex Ryan's wife

    4. Has given up on making the baseball Hall of Fame

    3. United States Postal Service paid him in stamps

    2. Started erotic website, "Tour-De-Pants"

    1. Admitted to doping just to get on "Oprah"
    :lol:
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,617
    Rancho Decepto. :lol:
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    WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,516
    MUSICISMYLIFE - I battled and still suffer the effects of Stage III rectal cancer...Lance Armstrong is a piece of shit and hasn't done a goddam thing to inspire me. Fuck him!

    and the reason they have to "go after him"? to figure out how in the fuck he beat the system for so many years and who helped him.

    I repeat, as a cancer survivor, fuck lance :evil:
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,617
    imalive wrote:
    MUSICISMYLIFE - I battled and still suffer the effects of Stage III rectal cancer...Lance Armstrong is a piece of shit and hasn't done a goddam thing to inspire me. Fuck him!

    and the reason they have to "go after him"? to figure out how in the fuck he beat the system for so many years and who helped him.

    I repeat, as a cancer survivor, fuck lance :evil:
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    Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    imalive wrote:

    I repeat, as a cancer survivor, fuck lance :evil:


    +1
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    WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,516
    and, WTF exactly, is this?

    The Livestrong Foundation states that its mission is 'to inspire and empower' cancer survivors and their families. The LAF also aims to provide practical information and tools for people affected by cancer - but no longer provides funding for direct cancer research.

    I think they also aim to raise "cancer awareness".....I guess for those who live under a rock.
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    RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    polaris_x wrote:
    if it walks like a duck ...

    yeah ... so, a murderer may not be a horrible person ... nor a child rapist ... nor osama bin laden for that matter ... because even tho they do horrible things - they aren't really horrible ... :fp:

    lance is not an asshole for cheating ... he's an asshole because that's his personality ... he's a bully and he's a liar ... it's easy to generate good vibes at a charity event when you lie ... i wonder how many of those people who helped pony up money to fight cancer feels knowing a lot of that went to promote him and into his pocket? ... it's easy to be viewed as a hero when you lie ... the reality is he is a big fraud ... i'll take honesty and integrity over bully and fraud every day of the week ...

    This. Also, there is no evidence (as far as I know) that Lance's heart was any more enlarged than any other endurance athlete. That's what happens when one is a long time endurance athlete. I bet my heart is more enlarged than the average person, just because I am a runner, biker, swimmer even though I am old and a middle of the road athlete.

    Lance and his crew always presented reasons why he was better than anyone else - obviously because they had to come up with something other than he had better doctors and drugs than the others. Those reasons have included enlarged heart, big lungs/chest, high cadence (like no other professional cyclist had ever thought of that or done that before), trained harder and more often than others (total bullshit and an insult to all other dedicated pro cyclists out there), dedicated training to only one race (TDF), blah blah blah. But it boils down to this: He was an average cyclist in the pro ranks until he started doping. Then all of a sudden he became a contender for the general classification. He boosted his hematocrit from 42 or below to 48 or so by using EPO.
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    RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    Bathgate66 wrote:
    Top Ten Other Lance Armstrong Revelations

    Wednesday, January 16, 2013

    10. Artificially enhanced his cycling shorts

    9. Still never leaves the house without several vials of clean urine

    8. Owns Texas real estate known as "Rancho Decepto"

    7. Took steroids to work up the strength to admit taking steroids

    6. Once had an inappropriate relationship with an air hose

    5. Also has tattoo of Rex Ryan's wife

    4. Has given up on making the baseball Hall of Fame

    3. United States Postal Service paid him in stamps

    2. Started erotic website, "Tour-De-Pants"

    1. Admitted to doping just to get on "Oprah"
    :lol:

    :lol:
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    Wma31394Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    I am willing to bet a box of Twinkies.

    At some point in this interview with "Oprah and her Gynormous Buttcheeks".
    Lance will bring up a dead relative.
    At some point Lance will go for sympathy, and bring up either a dead mother, father, sister, brother, etc.
    Anyone want to take that bet? If I lose I will be more than happy to ship you a box of Twinkies.
    But I have a feeling it is a safe bet.
    I have seen it before with lying, thieving, pieces of garbage.
    They instantly use a dead relative for sympathy.
    It is a given.

    Are the Twinkies from the last Chicagoland shipment? What is the date code?? :lol::lol:
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    RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    I am willing to bet a box of Twinkies.

    At some point in this interview with "Oprah and her Gynormous Buttcheeks".
    Lance will bring up a dead relative.
    At some point Lance will go for sympathy, and bring up either a dead mother, father, sister, brother, etc.
    Anyone want to take that bet? If I lose I will be more than happy to ship you a box of Twinkies.
    But I have a feeling it is a safe bet.
    I have seen it before with lying, thieving, pieces of garbage.
    They instantly use a dead relative for sympathy.
    It is a given.

    Add to that: being raised by a single mom - dad left them.
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    we all know he doped and we all know why he doped ... the only thing for lance to do is to tell us why he is a prick and who helped him ...
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    Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
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    so did sheryl crow, and his first wife, and current wife know prior? Sounds like his dad had no idea. Got to be tough to tell his kids as well
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    RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    so did sheryl crow, and his first wife, and current wife know prior? Sounds like his dad had no idea. Got to be tough to tell his kids as well

    His dad? You mean his step-dad? Or his mom? His wife knew. She helped distribute the drugs to his team members - in aluminum foil. He has only had one wife. He is not currently married. He lives with a woman and they have two kids together. But he has only been married once.
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    Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    Lances former right hand man calls him a " criminal"

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/e ... CFzvhw4rFJ


    Lance Armstrong’s former right-hand man blasted the cycling cheat yesterday, saying that he should be in jail for lying about taking steroids.

    “He’s a petty criminal,” Mike Anderson told The Post after the disgraced champion admitted to Oprah Winfrey that he used performance-enhancing drugs.

    “This is a guy who never had a real job in his life. If he had not weaseled his way into [the] sport and undertook this incredible fraud, he would be a petty criminal.”

    Anderson sued his former boss in 2005 for allegedly reneging on a deal to help him open a bike shop after serving as his assistant for more than two years. Armstrong settled.

    Their relationship fractured in early 2004, shortly after Anderson found Armstrong’s stash of steroids in an apartment where the star cyclist stayed while training, according to court papers.

    Anderson says he’s vindicated by the confession, but still wants to see his former boss locked up.

    “I’d like the guy to be brought to justice — jail would be good,” he said.

    Winfrey hasn’t revealed many details on the “emotional” interview, which is set to air tonight and tomorrow night.

    “I left it all on the table with her, and when it airs, the people can decide,” Armstrong told The Associated Press.

    His former cancer charity said it expects full disclosure.

    “We expect Lance to be completely truthful and forthcoming in his interview and with all of us in the cancer community,” Livestrong said.

    The TV confession comes after Armstrong was stripped of his seven Tour de France titles and barred for life from Olympic sports.

    Armstrong faces a slew of possible legal troubles over his confession. The Department of Justice was reportedly considering joining a whistleblower lawsuit against the doper, and could still reopen a criminal probe, sources said.

    Armstrong’s attorney declined to comment. A rep did not respond to an e-mail.
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    apparently i have OWN ... :shock:
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    Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    polaris_x wrote:
    apparently i have OWN ... :shock:


    has it already televised, or is it this week?
    I know it is/was a 2 day affair,...
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    WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,516
    polaris_x wrote:
    apparently i have OWN ... :shock:

    you mean you've never watched it before? :shock: :lol:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Bathgate66 wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    apparently i have OWN ... :shock:


    has it already televised, or is it this week?
    I know it is/was a 2 day affair,...

    it's tonight and tomorrow ...
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    Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    polaris_x wrote:
    Bathgate66 wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    apparently i have OWN ... :shock:


    has it already televised, or is it this week?
    I know it is/was a 2 day affair,...

    it's tonight and tomorrow ...


    :thumbup:

    thanks
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    imalive wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    apparently i have OWN ... :shock:

    you mean you've never watched it before? :shock: :lol:

    honestly ... it's either the porn channel (Food Network) or sports ... plus the occasional viewing of blade movies on spike ... :lol::lol:

    not really sure what other channels i had ... as it's supposed to be fairly standard package ... checked last nite and i have the oprah network which at the time was broadcasting something happening in canada ... weird ...
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    lance officially loses his bronze medal from sydney olympic games ...
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    goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,306
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    EnkiduEnkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    I think it's funny how nobody knows where OWN is on their TV. I don't have the slightest idea.
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    Wma31394Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    I am willing to bet a box of Twinkies.

    At some point in this interview with "Oprah and her Gynormous Buttcheeks".
    Lance will bring up a dead relative.
    At some point Lance will go for sympathy, and bring up either a dead mother, father, sister, brother, etc.
    Anyone want to take that bet? If I lose I will be more than happy to ship you a box of Twinkies.
    But I have a feeling it is a safe bet.
    I have seen it before with lying, thieving, pieces of garbage.
    They instantly use a dead relative for sympathy.
    It is a given.

    lol..are they from the last chicago shipment with a dec 11 or later date code.. :lol::lol:

    I think it will come in tonights airing..thought it was coming last night when he starting talking about growing up and his mom and all the other b.s.

    Personally i think lance dominated the whole interview..oprah is sooo bad at getting info out of someone and well past her prime..if she had one. At the same time lance isnt winning anyone over either..
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    my comments:

    * oprah is horrible ... apparently that is her style ... i feel like in these kind of interviews - you have to let the man speak and hang himself ... stop interrupting him when he's formulating words in his head ... pretty frustrating on that front

    * lance is still not forthcoming and lying ... some things don't add up ... he said he gave a donation to the UCI after he retired ... that donation was 2002 the year after his alleged tour de suisse cover up ... it's well documented - how can he say he gave it when he retired ...

    * his continual denial that his operation was the most sophisticated and that he had access to the best stuff is him trying to secure a legacy that if it was a level playing field - he would have won ... i used to believe that he may have won a few it it was but not anymore as i see what he got away with ...

    * he says if there's a truth and reconciliation commission - he would be the first person at the door but usada and wada have both asked him to testify under oath which he refuses to do ...

    looks like oprah is saving the tear-jerking stuff for part 2 ...
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