What are everyone's thoughts on this rumored all star "World Tour"? sounds to me like it could be pretty cool and display that the players really do love money
fixed.
they are talking the big time stars could make a million bucks a game
Wait they said per game????? :shock: I thought they said for the whole tour, if that's case then I take back what I said.......but if they came to philly I'm pretty sure I'd hit that shit up
oopss.....you are right...a million bucks for the 10 day, 6 game tour. still, that's 166,000 per game
Don't be surprised if the players don't get paid. The guy that defrauded Latrell Sprewell for over $300,000 a few years back is involved in this tour...his main role has been putting together the charitable component of the tour
Don't be surprised if the players don't get paid. The guy that defrauded Latrell Sprewell for over $300,000 a few years back is involved in this tour...his main role has been putting together the charitable component of the tour
So maybe Latrell had some validitiy to his claim that he couldn't feed his family on his salary? :roll:
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
yeah that's way to much, I figured they would at least do a pearl jam sized tour Imagine how hard THEIR forum is bitching right now
The lockout = white vinyl
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
I can live with that. Honestly, I jsut don't want to see arena workers lose so much work and then the selfish concern of mine is that I don't want to miss being able to get comfortable on the couch with some beers while it's snowing and cold outside and watch some basketball.
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
at this point, i don't see how there is a season. they just ended three straight days of 10+ hour meetings and ended back to square one.
Yeah, I think it's clear now that the season is shot. They'll never recover from it if they do can the whole season... A LOT of fans will split. People have been picky about the NBA's product for a while now anyway... this certainly doesn't help.
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
at this point, i don't see how there is a season. they just ended three straight days of 10+ hour meetings and ended back to square one.
Yeah, I think it's clear now that the season is shot. They'll never recover from it if they do can the whole season... A LOT of fans will split. People have been picky about the NBA's product for a while now anyway... this certainly doesn't help.
season's not shot. one side will blink eventually. this kind of stuff happens in negotiations. people thought the nfl season was in danger plenty of times during that lockout.
at this point, i don't see how there is a season. they just ended three straight days of 10+ hour meetings and ended back to square one.
Yeah, I think it's clear now that the season is shot. They'll never recover from it if they do can the whole season... A LOT of fans will split. People have been picky about the NBA's product for a while now anyway... this certainly doesn't help.
yep. last year they finally started getting back those fringe fans who 5 years ago wouldn't watch because "its all a bunch of thugs." those people will all be gone. the thing that sucks is, they need those fans.
both sides are fault, but i'm putting this on the players now and going forward. they're not going to get a better deal. they need to know that, and if they don't, they have terrible leadership. when the missed pay checks start stacking up, the players will crawl back and won't even get close to a 50/50 deal. i just can not understand how they think they'll have more leverage as this thing goes on.
at this point, i don't see how there is a season. they just ended three straight days of 10+ hour meetings and ended back to square one.
Yeah, I think it's clear now that the season is shot. They'll never recover from it if they do can the whole season... A LOT of fans will split. People have been picky about the NBA's product for a while now anyway... this certainly doesn't help.
season's not shot. one side will blink eventually. this kind of stuff happens in negotiations. people thought the nfl season was in danger plenty of times during that lockout.
i'm down with a 50-ish game season like in '99.
I guess we'll see what side folds first.
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023 MSG 2024, MSG 2024 Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
I've noticed it rarely is the big market owners. I've read that Dolan, Mark Cuban and the guy in Miami are the ones who want to do a deal.
From what I recall in the hockey lockout, it was the same thing with the guy owning Calgary being mentioned prominently as holding up a deal.
I'm sure it was the same in the NFL.
Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023 MSG 2024, MSG 2024 Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
at this point, i don't see how there is a season. they just ended three straight days of 10+ hour meetings and ended back to square one.
Yeah, I think it's clear now that the season is shot. They'll never recover from it if they do can the whole season... A LOT of fans will split. People have been picky about the NBA's product for a while now anyway... this certainly doesn't help.
gf and i were talking last night....we came to the conclusion that you have to start by mid jan if you want to squeeze a half season in....maybe there are no east/west matchups, you play your division a bunch and one game agaist other teams in your confrence.
gf and i were talking last night....we came to the conclusion that you have to start by mid jan if you want to squeeze a half season in....maybe there are no east/west matchups, you play your division a bunch and one game agaist other teams in your confrence.
i dunno...sucks tho
This whole thing is a joke. Coming off one of the most successful seasons in the past 20 years and these assholes are going to pull this shit? They are completely killing any momentum that they did have. Sure, the big market teams will be fine once this is resolved, but this will probably make things even worse for the small market teams that were already struggling.
The NFL and NFLPA met for 16 days in a row to avoid missing games. These jerkoffs cant even last 3 straight days.
I've noticed it rarely is the big market owners. I've read that Dolan, Mark Cuban and the guy in Miami are the ones who want to do a deal.
From what I recall in the hockey lockout, it was the same thing with the guy owning Calgary being mentioned prominently as holding up a deal.
I'm sure it was the same in the NFL.
did hockey miss an entire season a few years ago?
They missed the entire 2004-05 season and didn't resolve the lockout and ratify the agreement until July 22, 2005. They actually did it at the same hotel (The Sheraton on seventh avenue in New York) that the NBA was just holding its' last round of talks.
Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023 MSG 2024, MSG 2024 Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
What is the possibility that the league crumbles and is no more? Obviously not over night, but...
I'm not saying I think that will happen, but if this keeps up the number of people that will get jaded will increase consistently... as evidenced by that article just shared.
All the blogs, articles, etc that I've been reading about this it is overwhelming the amount of comments people leave takling about them not giving a shit. I've known for a long time that a good amount of sports fans have loathed the NBA and not watched it for years...
You have to wonder how big this nail might be for a coffin....
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
That's one of the few articles I've read on it and probably the only reason I read it is that when I covered pro basketball on the side, I was and still am good friends with the author.
Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023 MSG 2024, MSG 2024 Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
That's one of the few articles I've read on it and probably the only reason I read it is that when I covered pro basketball on the side, I was and still am good friends with the author.
I really enjoyed the article. Much better than any of the articles on NBA.com regarding this issue.
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
Comments
oopss.....you are right...a million bucks for the 10 day, 6 game tour. still, that's 166,000 per game
yeah that's still way to much, I didn't realize it was only 6 games
So maybe Latrell had some validitiy to his claim that he couldn't feed his family on his salary?
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
works out to about 13.7M for 82 games.....
yeah that's way to much, I figured they would at least do a pearl jam sized tour
The lockout = white vinyl
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
maybe we see a 65 game season.
I can live with that. Honestly, I jsut don't want to see arena workers lose so much work and then the selfish concern of mine is that I don't want to miss being able to get comfortable on the couch with some beers while it's snowing and cold outside and watch some basketball.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
way to jinx them
did KG show up again.
:x
No, Metta World Peace did.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
Yeah, I think it's clear now that the season is shot. They'll never recover from it if they do can the whole season... A LOT of fans will split. People have been picky about the NBA's product for a while now anyway... this certainly doesn't help.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
season's not shot. one side will blink eventually. this kind of stuff happens in negotiations. people thought the nfl season was in danger plenty of times during that lockout.
i'm down with a 50-ish game season like in '99.
yep. last year they finally started getting back those fringe fans who 5 years ago wouldn't watch because "its all a bunch of thugs." those people will all be gone. the thing that sucks is, they need those fans.
both sides are fault, but i'm putting this on the players now and going forward. they're not going to get a better deal. they need to know that, and if they don't, they have terrible leadership. when the missed pay checks start stacking up, the players will crawl back and won't even get close to a 50/50 deal. i just can not understand how they think they'll have more leverage as this thing goes on.
I guess we'll see what side folds first.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Well of course, having billions isn't enough.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/1577 ... -who-cares
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
I've noticed it rarely is the big market owners. I've read that Dolan, Mark Cuban and the guy in Miami are the ones who want to do a deal.
From what I recall in the hockey lockout, it was the same thing with the guy owning Calgary being mentioned prominently as holding up a deal.
I'm sure it was the same in the NFL.
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
gf and i were talking last night....we came to the conclusion that you have to start by mid jan if you want to squeeze a half season in....maybe there are no east/west matchups, you play your division a bunch and one game agaist other teams in your confrence.
i dunno...sucks tho
This whole thing is a joke. Coming off one of the most successful seasons in the past 20 years and these assholes are going to pull this shit? They are completely killing any momentum that they did have. Sure, the big market teams will be fine once this is resolved, but this will probably make things even worse for the small market teams that were already struggling.
The NFL and NFLPA met for 16 days in a row to avoid missing games. These jerkoffs cant even last 3 straight days.
did hockey miss an entire season a few years ago?
They missed the entire 2004-05 season and didn't resolve the lockout and ratify the agreement until July 22, 2005. They actually did it at the same hotel (The Sheraton on seventh avenue in New York) that the NBA was just holding its' last round of talks.
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
I'm not saying I think that will happen, but if this keeps up the number of people that will get jaded will increase consistently... as evidenced by that article just shared.
All the blogs, articles, etc that I've been reading about this it is overwhelming the amount of comments people leave takling about them not giving a shit. I've known for a long time that a good amount of sports fans have loathed the NBA and not watched it for years...
You have to wonder how big this nail might be for a coffin....
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
I really enjoyed the article. Much better than any of the articles on NBA.com regarding this issue.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2