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  • pjtaper
    pjtaper Posts: 3,020
    pulaski wrote:
    u sound cute
    Sorry, I am taken.... totally head over heels in love with the most beautiful girl on the planet!
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    pulaski wrote:
    they havent done it yet with posters, what makes u think they will do it for the zippos

    i know there alot of hostile people here, but im planning on going to one of the upcoming fundraisers. I wont identify myself due to the hostility, but if there happens to be an anonymous donation of a lighter for auction, u will know where it came from.

    wish you all well

    Your exactly right, just like anything else if they wanted to get rid of the flipping problem, all they have to do is make more and destroy the market.

    I think the thing that bugs me the most about threads like this is the way people act so entitled. Like how if someone is a PJ fan they obviously deserve a break in the price on something (and if someone doesn't give it to them they are a jerk), which is ridiculous. I mean I am a big fan of steak but if I walk into a nice steak house, they are not going to cut me a break on the price of a sirloin just because I tell them I really like it.
  • pulaski
    pulaski Posts: 259
    pjtaper wrote:
    you sound like a dude who wants to hook me up with a zippo... still waiting on that PM... and don't worry, EVERYONE on here will know how you hooked me up so graciously!
    Are you not going to hook up someone going to the show who is working for charity and won't be able to get one in time?
    I'm calling you out here... You said you would sell them to people at cost, why not someone raising money for a Pearl Jam related charity!!!
    Also, why not donate one to the wishlist auctions?


    i said i was "thinking" about doing that. im not definite yet. and im most certainly not going to hook you up. I dont need to tell people how cool i am, i dont need that promotion. I will hook up the people in my own way, that i feel appreciate it most, without the need for "reward".
  • pjtaper
    pjtaper Posts: 3,020
    so you won't sell one of the 20 lighters you have at face to a person working at the wishlist charity?
    yeah, you aren't going to flip them....
    How about you donate one to the wishlist table for auction, and we'll give you $$ for exactly what you paid, wishlist donates the rest....
  • pulaski
    pulaski Posts: 259
    pjtaper wrote:
    so you won't sell one of the 20 lighters you have at face to a person working at the wishlist charity?
    yeah, you aren't going to flip them....
    How about you donate one to the wishlist table for auction, and we'll give you $$ for exactly what you paid, wishlist donates the rest....


    thats what i was talking about. i wont need any $$ in return for it, but i do wanna make sure it gets auctioned off and doesnt end up in your pocket to light up those doobies that your smokin.
  • pjtaper
    pjtaper Posts: 3,020
    yeah, don't worry, you can stay and watch the auction.
  • AnnaMelinda
    AnnaMelinda Posts: 331
    pulaski wrote:
    thats what i was talking about. i wont need any $$ in return for it, but i do wanna make sure it gets auctioned off and doesnt end up in your pocket to light up those doobies that your smokin.

    Wow...That is so benevolent of you.

    That way one of the people that get shut out at that venue... because you bought 15 of them...has a chance to win one!

    I guess I misjudged you.

    You seem like a real gem/prize of a guy.

    xo
    sometimes life don't leave you alone
  • Red Mosqito
    Red Mosqito Posts: 1,239
    LOL...what a thread!! Personally I don't believe in flipping any merchandise for a profit as it relates to PJ and few other bands that I follow, I just couldn't dick over a fellow fan like that. However, I know that there are others out there who don't have the same view as I do and I'm fine with that because in the long run I worry more about the corporations that screw over the common man with things like inflated gas prices, then I do the casual ebay flipper making a poor mans profit.

    Everyone has the same opportunity as the other to get the posters and any other "Limited" run shwag, it all just depends on how much you value getting these things and then doing what you need to do to ensure that you have the best opportunity to get those things. If you're big on getting posters and such...then plan ahead and get there early enough and make a beeline to the merch counter. Ever since I started purchasing posters, I have yet to get shut out at the merch counter.

    And to provide another tip to all the folks attending the upcoming EV solo shows, make sure you bring enough CASH with you to the venue as that is all the merch counter is accepting. At the time I was at the counter, I only had $80 cash on me but wanted the poster, shirt and lighter. So I had to make a choice and I opted to get the T-shirt later in the evening as I knew the lighters would only last a short while.

    And remember folks...you can get mad at the ebay flipper, but remember there wouldn't be a ebay flipper if there wasn't a willing ebay buyer. Flippers just put the product up for sale, the buyers are the ones who create market value/demand and drive the price up.

    Peace,

    RM
  • Motown322
    Motown322 Posts: 465
    I think the thing that bugs me the most about threads like this is the way people act so entitled. Like how if someone is a PJ fan they obviously deserve a break in the price on something (and if someone doesn't give it to them they are a jerk), which is ridiculous. I mean I am a big fan of steak but if I walk into a nice steak house, they are not going to cut me a break on the price of a sirloin just because I tell them I really like it.

    You fucking nailed it on the head with that... I said this in another "EBAY SCUMBAG SELLING POSTERS!!!" thread a few days ago: it's this sense of entitlement around here. I'm a real fan so I should be able to get tickets for every show that I want, I should be able to get every sweatshirt I want, I should be able to get every poster I want, etc... Shit, I want a '70 Mustang Mach I. There's no reason that I should have to pay some dude $30,000 for one when it only cost $2800 off the dealer lot. I'm a big Mustang fanatic, though... that's gotta count. :rolleyes:

    Maybe the guy selling posters on ebay is donating proceeds to the Humane Society or Red Cross or something... nobody knows, and it's nobody's business.
  • Biss
    Biss Posts: 255
    pulaski wrote:
    so whats your take on zippo flipping?? is it just illegal as poster flipping? are people gonna freak out when I put my 10 zippos (i have so far) on ebay?

    i wonder how many more i can get in the next 7 shows

    Is this yours?

    http://cgi.ebay.it/Eddie-Vedder-Into-the-Wild-Zippo-Lighter-NEW_W0QQitemZ290219902997QQihZ019QQcategoryZ952QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m122
    00: Milan
    06: Verona, Milan, Pistoia
    07: Storm in Venice, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    08: Camden I, MSG I, MSG II, Hartford
    09: Berlin, Manchester, London
    10: Dublin, Belfast, Berlin, Venice
    11: East Troy1, East Troy2, Montreal, Toronto1, Toronto2

    Next Tour: everywere!
  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    I'll buy one for 250!!!
    "I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive


  • AnnaMelinda
    AnnaMelinda Posts: 331
    Motown322 wrote:
    You fucking nailed it on the head with that... I said this in another "EBAY SCUMBAG SELLING POSTERS!!!" thread a few days ago: it's this sense of entitlement around here. I'm a real fan so I should be able to get tickets for every show that I want, I should be able to get every sweatshirt I want, I should be able to get every poster I want, etc... Shit, I want a '70 Mustang Mach I. There's no reason that I should have to pay some dude $30,000 for one when it only cost $2800 off the dealer lot. I'm a big Mustang fanatic, though... that's gotta count. :rolleyes:

    Maybe the guy selling posters on ebay is donating proceeds to the Humane Society or Red Cross or something... nobody knows, and it's nobody's business.

    Obviously you...MOST LIKELY...NOT DEFINITELY... have never stood at a poster table and watched a guy give a vendor extra dough and walk away with the last four posters and had the vendor say "Sorry.... His friends are over there...I saw them."

    It has happened to me more than once...(I've been to MANY shows....)

    In my opinion it sucks and it is fucking over your fellow fans.

    The guy can do whatever he wants. Doesn't mean he's not a greedy mother*.
    sometimes life don't leave you alone
  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    Danimal wrote:
    I'll buy one for 250!!!
    Dont sell to him- I'll take the entire stash at $250.01 each...
  • Motown322
    Motown322 Posts: 465
    suppafreak wrote:
    Obviously you...MOST LIKELY...NOT DEFINITELY... have never stood at a poster table and watched a guy give a vendor extra dough and walk away with the last four posters and had the vendor say "Sorry.... His friends are over there...I saw them."

    It has happened to me more than once...(I've been to MANY shows....)

    In my opinion it sucks and it is fucking over your fellow fans.

    The guy can do whatever he wants. Doesn't mean he's not a greedy mother*.

    Bet me it hasn't happened to me. It has. 2 in front of me in Detroit in '06. Sure, it sucks, but I place just as much blame on the people selling the stuff at the merch table as the guy buying. But that's what happens when you have limited numbered stuff like the posters and whatnot. They IMMIEDIATELY become more valuable to people and more of a potential profit on ebay.

    But at the end of the day, it's a poster. It's a lighter. It's a piece of merchandise that's overpriced as soon as it's emptied out of the box and placed on the merch table. Guess it all depends on whose pockets you want to fill.
  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    drsluggo wrote:
    Dont sell to him- I'll take the entire stash at $250.01 each...

    251.00!!!!
    "I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive


  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    Danimal wrote:
    251.00!!!!
    I'm done playing games - $253.74!
  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    drsluggo wrote:
    I'm done playing games - $253.74!

    I love this! We have just turned the Pit into EBay!!!!

    By the way...that was a jump and a half!!! Which is complete and utter BS!!!!

    $253.92!!!
    "I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive


  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    Danimal wrote:
    I love this! We have just turned the Pit into EBay!!!!

    By the way...that was a jump and a half!!! Which is complete and utter BS!!!!

    $253.92!!!
    It's called proxy bidding -- look into it before you come on here whining about it. :)

    Anyhow - I see you've come to play, so I'll match that and raise just a tad and go to... $255.11

    does this guy combine shipping if I get all 7?
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    suppafreak wrote:
    Obviously you...MOST LIKELY...NOT DEFINITELY... have never stood at a poster table and watched a guy give a vendor extra dough and walk away with the last four posters and had the vendor say "Sorry.... His friends are over there...I saw them."

    It has happened to me more than once...(I've been to MANY shows....)

    In my opinion it sucks and it is fucking over your fellow fans.

    The guy can do whatever he wants. Doesn't mean he's not a greedy mother*.


    I agree that does suck. But at the same time no one promised you that there would be a poster waiting for you when you got there. I am not trying to criticize you but with a lot of the comments I read, it sounds like people think that someone owes them a poster. I mean what it comes down to in the end is that there is always more people then posters or lighters or what have you. I mean even if the guy you mentioned had not bribed the guy and gotten the last four the 5th guy after you still wouldn’t have gotten one.
  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    drsluggo wrote:
    It's called proxy bidding -- look into it before you come on here whining about it. :)

    Anyhow - I see you've come to play, so I'll match that and raise just a tad and go to... $255.11

    does this guy combine shipping if I get all 7?

    255.43435685232412
    "I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive