What is the minimum income requirement for having sex?

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  • arthurdentarthurdent Posts: 969
    I don't know about minimum income requirements, but I definitely think there should be IQ tests for having sex
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  • GTFLYGIRLGTFLYGIRL NewYork Posts: 760
    zarocat wrote:
    Those numbers don't add up to me. It's common sense to know that unintended pregnancies are higher than planned pregnancies. Don't you agree ?

    I don't agree... and I don't really understand why you think that it would be so likely to be that way.... could you please share your thoughts on it?
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    zarocat wrote:
    _ wrote:

    In the United States, 51% of pregnancies are intended & 49% of pregnancies are unintended. I know that's a percentage of pregnancies & not of people, but hopefully that kind of answers your first question.

    Source for that statistic ?

    Those numbers don't add up to me. It's common sense to know that unintended pregnancies are higher than planned pregnancies. Don't you agree ?

    Pregnancies in people can't be done without people so how is your percentage information not about people ?

    Finer LB, Henshaw SK. Disparities in Rates of Unintended Pregnancy in the United States, 1994 and 2001. Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health. 2006;38:90–96.

    I'm not really sure I'm following your common sense. We (the U.S.) actually have the highest unintended pregnancy rate in the "developed" world. I think this has something to do with our access to contraception, which is good enough for our unintended pregnancies to not be higher than intended ones, but bad enough that they're still higher than the rest of the world with decent access to contraception.

    My percentage is ABOUT people; I just meant that it's not a percentage OF people. g under p asked what percentage OF PEOPLE plan on & implement trying to have a child. I didn't exactly answer his question because I told him what percentage OF PREGNANCIES were planned vs. unplanned. But since not all people have pregnancies, it's not a percentage of total people. (I'm not sure I explained that well.)

    Of course, now that I re-read the article, I see that it actually does have an answer to g under p's question. The rate of intended pregnancies in the U.S. in 2001 was 53 per 1,000 women of reproductive age (15-44). So 5.3% of reproductive-age women had a planned pregnancy that year. (Of course that still doesn't exactly answer the question because he asked about people, not just reproductive-age women over a one-year period.)

    So, percentage of pregnancies that are intended = 51%.
    Percentage of women who had intended pregnancies = 5.3%.
  • zarocatzarocat Posts: 1,901
    _ wrote:
    zarocat wrote:
    _ wrote:

    In the United States, 51% of pregnancies are intended & 49% of pregnancies are unintended. I know that's a percentage of pregnancies & not of people, but hopefully that kind of answers your first question.

    Source for that statistic ?

    Those numbers don't add up to me. It's common sense to know that unintended pregnancies are higher than planned pregnancies. Don't you agree ?

    Pregnancies in people can't be done without people so how is your percentage information not about people ?

    Finer LB, Henshaw SK. Disparities in Rates of Unintended Pregnancy in the United States, 1994 and 2001. Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health. 2006;38:90–96.

    I'm not really sure I'm following your common sense. We (the U.S.) actually have the highest unintended pregnancy rate in the "developed" world. I think this has something to do with our access to contraception, which is good enough for our unintended pregnancies to not be higher than intended ones, but bad enough that they're still higher than the rest of the world with decent access to contraception.

    My percentage is ABOUT people; I just meant that it's not a percentage OF people. g under p asked what percentage OF PEOPLE plan on & implement trying to have a child. I didn't exactly answer his question because I told him what percentage OF PREGNANCIES were planned vs. unplanned. But since not all people have pregnancies, it's not a percentage of total people. (I'm not sure I explained that well.)

    Of course, now that I re-read the article, I see that it actually does have an answer to g under p's question. The rate of intended pregnancies in the U.S. in 2001 was 53 per 1,000 women of reproductive age (15-44). So 5.3% of reproductive-age women had a planned pregnancy that year. (Of course that still doesn't exactly answer the question because he asked about people, not just reproductive-age women over a one-year period.)

    So, percentage of pregnancies that are intended = 51%.
    Percentage of women who had intended pregnancies = 5.3%.

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  • zarocatzarocat Posts: 1,901
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    zarocat wrote:
    Those numbers don't add up to me. It's common sense to know that unintended pregnancies are higher than planned pregnancies. Don't you agree ?

    I don't agree... and I don't really understand why you think that it would be so likely to be that way.... could you please share your thoughts on it?

    Well, people are fucking all the time without wanting to get pregnant but they do get pregnant. I wouldn't think the number of people having sexual intercourse to get pregnant would be higher than those fucking and becoming pregnant. Am I making sense because it sure sounds right in my head ?
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    2009: Toronto
    2011: PJ20, Montreal, Toronto X2, Hamilton
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  • pickupyourwillpickupyourwill Posts: 3,135
    edited March 2011
    _ wrote:
    People around here are always saying that you shouldn't have a kid if you can't afford to pay for him/her. We all know that the ONLY way to certainly avoid pregnancy is to not have sex. So I'm wondering, how much money should a person have - in income AND savings - before he or she gets to have sex? What is this magic number that would pull someone with kids off your list of irresponsible people? How much money should YOU have before you get to have sex (or DID you have when you started)? And if you've ever dropped below this magic number, did you STOP having sex immediately? Would you? How would your spouse/partner feel about this?

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  • pickupyourwillpickupyourwill Posts: 3,135
    _ wrote:
    People around here are always saying that you shouldn't have a kid if you can't afford to pay for him/her. We all know that the ONLY way to certainly avoid pregnancy is to not have sex. So I'm wondering, how much money should a person have - in income AND savings - before he or she gets to have sex? What is this magic number that would pull someone with kids off your list of irresponsible people? How much money should YOU have before you get to have sex (or DID you have when you started)? And if you've ever dropped below this magic number, did you STOP having sex immediately? Would you? How would your spouse/partner feel about this?

    You should have atleast a few thousand dollars saved up just for the possibility of a baby, if you live in the midwest. Income? As long as it allows for those extra few thousand just for the baby.
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    zarocat wrote:
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    zarocat wrote:
    Those numbers don't add up to me. It's common sense to know that unintended pregnancies are higher than planned pregnancies. Don't you agree ?

    I don't agree... and I don't really understand why you think that it would be so likely to be that way.... could you please share your thoughts on it?

    Well, people are fucking all the time without wanting to get pregnant but they do get pregnant. I wouldn't think the number of people having sexual intercourse to get pregnant would be higher than those fucking and becoming pregnant. Am I making sense because it sure sounds right in my head ?

    Yeah, I see what you're saying & it does make sense. Only, the vast majority (93%, if my memory serves me) of women who are fucking without wanting to get pregnant use contraception.
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    _ wrote:
    People around here are always saying that you shouldn't have a kid if you can't afford to pay for him/her. We all know that the ONLY way to certainly avoid pregnancy is to not have sex. So I'm wondering, how much money should a person have - in income AND savings - before he or she gets to have sex? What is this magic number that would pull someone with kids off your list of irresponsible people? How much money should YOU have before you get to have sex (or DID you have when you started)? And if you've ever dropped below this magic number, did you STOP having sex immediately? Would you? How would your spouse/partner feel about this?

    You should have atleast a few thousand dollars saved up just for the possibility of a baby, if you live in the midwest. Income? As long as it allows for those extra few thousand just for the baby.

    Thanks. You might be the only person who actually answered.
  • _ wrote:
    Thanks. You might be the only person who actually answered.

    wait... I'm confused. You asked "what is the.... REQUIREMENT", which connotates that there is a legal stipulation provided by some sort of government body (state? federal?) that would penalize someone who doesn't abide by the law. If the question was "what is the minimum income/savings people should aim for if they're responsible and thinking about having a baby" then yeah... let's all throw out arbitrary numbers. I assumed the question meant that there should be some 3rd party involved...

    you know... like Mike Huckabee if he were president, he'd throw Natalie Portman in jail for having a kid whilst being unmarried. THAT sort of fascism.
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    _ wrote:
    Thanks. You might be the only person who actually answered.

    wait... I'm confused. You asked "what is the.... REQUIREMENT", which connotates that there is a legal stipulation provided by some sort of government body (state? federal?) that would penalize someone who doesn't abide by the law. If the question was "what is the minimum income/savings people should aim for if they're responsible and thinking about having a baby" then yeah... let's all throw out arbitrary numbers. I assumed the question meant that there should be some 3rd party involved...

    you know... like Mike Huckabee if he were president, he'd throw Natalie Portman in jail for having a kid whilst being unmarried. THAT sort of fascism.

    I didn't mean that there is a legal requirement, but your alternative thread title wouldn't fit. I was just referring to the personal requirements of the third parties in this forum who try to involve themselves in the sex lives of others.
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