Ranting and directing profanity is disrespectful... unless you agree thats appropriate behavior...
perhaps you do.
I have pleaded with you in a couple pm's basically on my knees open heart all for naught
so I do know a bit about your lack of respect for others too.
So your words here now are a 'kettle black' thing...
You pick and choose whom to respect yet argue we should respect all people when you do not give the same consideration. You choose who gets your support.
20 years from now, when you are 55 and have kids approaching 30 you will perhaps understand
how I feel. At this point I don't expect understanding from you. It takes very insightful people to understand and to bridge the generation gap.
I am a Mom and you are children to me.
Pretty simple concept.
And again you have no solution to the problems facing our world...only identify a problem and put down others and how they may choose to solve it. I don't find that very evolved. I find that to be just simple finger pointing.
i am a mom and you are children to me could you be any more condescending? :roll:
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hate is such a strong word pandora. i dont hate anybody.. but there are people i have no time for. and i dont feel that patronising them is constructive, so they tend to figure out quick how i feel.
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hate is such a strong word pandora. i dont hate anybody.. but there are people i have no time for. and i dont feel that patronising them is constructive, so they tend to figure out quick how i feel.
gotcha you are better than so many I guess
is that a high horse I see?
I'll leave you to yourself then
life can be humbling though
this I know.
hate is such a strong word pandora. i dont hate anybody.. but there are people i have no time for. and i dont feel that patronising them is constructive, so they tend to figure out quick how i feel.
gotcha you are better than so many I guess
is that a high horse I see?
I'll leave you to yourself then
life can be humbling though
this I know.
pfft as if i dont already know that pandora. you seem to forget there are some here who are parents and grandparents and as old as the boys in the band.
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hate is such a strong word pandora. i dont hate anybody.. but there are people i have no time for. and i dont feel that patronising them is constructive, so they tend to figure out quick how i feel.
gotcha you are better than so many I guess
is that a high horse I see?
I'll leave you to yourself then
life can be humbling though
this I know.
pfft as if i dont already know that pandora. you seem to forget there are some here who are parents and grandparents and as old as the boys in the band.
again you miss my point..it is the high horse cate
and yes I know you know and are not a young person
doesn't change the message though,
people tell each other things they already know
and they often divert from the words.
again you miss my point..it is the high horse cate
and yes I know you know and are not a young person
doesn't change the message though,
people tell each other things they already know
and they often divert from the words.
Be well and enjoy your life cate
and just so were sure here.. what high horse would that be??
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hate is such a strong word pandora. i dont hate anybody.. but there are people i have no time for. and i dont feel that patronising them is constructive, so they tend to figure out quick how i feel.
gotcha you are better than so many I guess
is that a high horse I see?
I'll leave you to yourself then
life can be humbling though
this I know.
pfft as if i dont already know that pandora. you seem to forget there are some here who are parents and grandparents and as old as the boys in the band.
again you miss my point..it is the high horse cate
and yes I know you know and are not a young person
doesn't change the message though,
Back to the subject at hand....I'm just curious does anyone know what is the percentage of people whether poor, middle rich, or just plain rich plan on and implement trying to have a child? Is that percentage high or low and if it is high are all those people irresponsible?
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again you miss my point..it is the high horse cate
and yes I know you know and are not a young person
doesn't change the message though,
people tell each other things they already know
and they often divert from the words.
Be well and enjoy your life cate
and just so were sure here.. what high horse would that be??
again you miss my point..it is the high horse cate
and yes I know you know and are not a young person
doesn't change the message though,
people tell each other things they already know
and they often divert from the words.
Be well and enjoy your life cate
and just so were sure here.. what high horse would that be??
just the quick def search here and then I'm off for a lovely dinner and red carpet viewing of the rich and famous haughty attitude or temper; a contemptuous manner
this was your post....hate is such a strong word pandora. i dont hate anybody.. but there are people i have no time for. and i dont feel that patronising them is constructive, so they tend to figure out quick how i feel.
sounding a bit high horse...ish to me..... in my opinion though
Back to the subject at hand....I'm just curious does anyone know what is the percentage of people whether poor, middle rich, or just plain rich plan on and implement trying to have a child? Is that percentage high or low and if it is high are all those people irresponsible?
Peace
In the United States, 51% of pregnancies are intended & 49% of pregnancies are unintended. I know that's a percentage of pregnancies & not of people, but hopefully that kind of answers your first question.
As for your second question, that obviously depends on who you ask. I don't think it's my place to judge. But for those who think it's their place to judge whether a person/couple is irresponsible for having children under less than ideal conditions, I'll have to agree with the posters here who have already noted that practically no one is able to bring children into this world under ideal conditions.
I don't think anyone should be means tested or tested for being of below high intellegence, jeez if we had waited until we were loaded and had a whole bunch of cash in the bank, we would never have had kids!!! But you have to have rocks in your head if you think having a baby when your completely skint and struggling to survive financially, is a good idea!!!! :? :?
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We were poor when we had our first. We had just enough money to pay the rent and power, we had no phone, cable or any other luxuries and we had a ball. I had to take the calculator to the supermarket with me to make the $40 we had stretch as far as possible. At the end of the day it isn't about how much money you have its about being ready emotionally. 2nd time around we were slightly better off but still had only enough for the basics. I went back to work when my son was 19months and since then we are comfortable. The problem a lot of people have is not being able to budget and prioritize, and being used to a certain way of life. Having a child means that you have to be willing to compromise.
Yeah, I mean we only have money for the basics really and a few little treats here and there. My hubby has to work damn hard for what we have. I guess what I'm saying is if you have no secure roof over your head and completely down and out it's not a good idea to actually go out of your way to get pregnant. It's still up to them, we can't force them otherwise but I think it's a bit silly.
We were poor when we had our first. We had just enough money to pay the rent and power, we had no phone, cable or any other luxuries and we had a ball. I had to take the calculator to the supermarket with me to make the $40 we had stretch as far as possible. At the end of the day it isn't about how much money you have its about being ready emotionally. 2nd time around we were slightly better off but still had only enough for the basics. I went back to work when my son was 19months and since then we are comfortable. The problem a lot of people have is not being able to budget and prioritize, and being used to a certain way of life. Having a child means that you have to be willing to compromise.
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We were poor when we had our first. We had just enough money to pay the rent and power, we had no phone, cable or any other luxuries and we had a ball. I had to take the calculator to the supermarket with me to make the $40 we had stretch as far as possible. At the end of the day it isn't about how much money you have its about being ready emotionally. 2nd time around we were slightly better off but still had only enough for the basics. I went back to work when my son was 19months and since then we are comfortable. The problem a lot of people have is not being able to budget and prioritize, and being used to a certain way of life. Having a child means that you have to be willing to compromise.
Tinkerbell i know what you mean and i've been there as a single father taking care of my daughter with some help from my mother. I had to sacrifice so many things i loved but all the things i did give up I in return gave to my daughter who had to survive abuse from her mother.
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Back to the subject at hand....I'm just curious does anyone know what is the percentage of people whether poor, middle rich, or just plain rich plan on and implement trying to have a child? Is that percentage high or low and if it is high are all those people irresponsible?
Peace
In the United States, 51% of pregnancies are intended & 49% of pregnancies are unintended. I know that's a percentage of pregnancies & not of people, but hopefully that kind of answers your first question.
As for your second question, that obviously depends on who you ask. I don't think it's my place to judge. But for those who think it's their place to judge whether a person/couple is irresponsible for having children under less than ideal conditions, I'll have to agree with the posters here who have already noted that practically no one is able to bring children into this world under ideal conditions.
Thank you, I was guessing that it was going to be average or medium ground. I'm in the unintended group but I was beyond ecstatic....my other half at the time not so much.
I gather I don't think of myself as irresponsible in having a pregnancy which was unplanned. Things weren't perfect and they were many struggles, I almost had my car repossessed, fell behind on some bills etc. My daughter's birth now 14 was not under ideal situation but it made strong and more focused as a father.
I took a 5 week maternity leave and it was a good thing I did in that my wife at the time of our daughter's birth went into a depression. I jumped into action by prepping the bottles, giving baths, playing and reading stories..etc. I did all what was needed to be done and more as a Dad.
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
We certainly struggled with money when I was growing up too. My parents had a child they couldn't afford - me - through absolutely no fault of their own. They could afford one child, not two. But we don't always have complete control over our reproductivity and two eggs were fertilized. My dad chose to solve this problem by joining the military against the wishes of my mom, thereby altering the course of all of our lives forever. Some might say he did the right thing to avoid having his children paid for by the taxpayers (oh wait - but the taxpayers still ended up paying for us though, just through the military budget instead of the welfare one!), but in a way it tore my mom's family apart. My point is that neither decision would have been right or wrong and it was certainly not anyone's place to judge.
Then, after he got out of the service, both my parents had trouble finding jobs when we moved here. We never lost our home or had to get food stamps, but that's only because we were FORTUNATE enough to have family members who could help us pay the bills until my parents were able to secure better incomes. Not everyone is so fortunate. We did, however, have to use public funding for healthcare. Would any of you, with children & no health insurance, hesitate for a second to use public assistance to provide healthcare for your child? I hope not.
I used this "welfare" funding for healthcare again when I was in college, working 50 hours/week at $4.25/hour with no option to buy health insurance. Was I a lazy, irresponsible person taking taxpayers' money & giving nothing back? Absolutely not. My taxes have paid and continue to pay into that system and I wouldn't hesitate to use it again if I needed to.
Not only is there no ideal time to have a child, but you can't even always control how many children you have. And you never, ever know when, 15 years later, your circumstances might change and you might need public assistance to help care for your children - no matter how responsible your choices have been.
Back to the subject at hand....I'm just curious does anyone know what is the percentage of people whether poor, middle rich, or just plain rich plan on and implement trying to have a child? Is that percentage high or low and if it is high are all those people irresponsible?
Peace
In the United States, 51% of pregnancies are intended & 49% of pregnancies are unintended. I know that's a percentage of pregnancies & not of people, but hopefully that kind of answers your first question.
As for your second question, that obviously depends on who you ask. I don't think it's my place to judge. But for those who think it's their place to judge whether a person/couple is irresponsible for having children under less than ideal conditions, I'll have to agree with the posters here who have already noted that practically no one is able to bring children into this world under ideal conditions.
Thank you, I was guessing that it was going to be average or medium ground. I'm in the unintended group but I was beyond ecstatic....my other half at the time not so much.
I gather I don't think of myself as irresponsible in having a pregnancy which was unplanned. Things weren't perfect and they were many struggles, I almost had my car repossessed, fell behind on some bills etc. My daughter's birth now 14 was not under ideal situation but it made strong and more focused as a father.
I took a 5 week maternity leave and it was a good thing I did in that my wife at the time of our daughter's birth went into a depression. I jumped into action by prepping the bottles, giving baths, playing and reading stories..etc. I did all what was needed to be done and more as a Dad.
Peace
I'm glad you (and your family) were fortunate enough to have the option to take paternity leave to jump in to care for your family when needed. Unfortunately (as you know), many, many people in this country aren't so fortunate. :(
I grew up being looked after by a single mother and without going into my private life too much things went down hill and we ended up with nothing. When I say nothing, I mean...NOTHING! My mother made the very best of the situation and just made most of it seem like a big adventure and didn't let on just how bad it really was. I loved my childhood but if my mum had turned around at that time in our life and said, "I really want a child so I'm gonna have one", I would have thought she'd lost her marbles. I agree that there is no perfect time to have children but there can certainly be a wrong time. I know shit happens in life that you can't prepare for and you just have to ride that wave out until it gets a little smoother.
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I don't feel guilty for thinking having a zillion babies that you can't take care of is just plain silly.
We should also implement an IQ test in addition to a minimum income requirement. And more importantly, a BMI requirement, cause we don't need those fat people reproducing either.
Instead of waiting for the stupid, fat, and poor people to die off slowly, can we just go into their homes and kill them? They aren't going to have kids to give their homes and other assets to, so we may as well take that stuff now.
Okay, so that might be a bit much. Instead, let's build concentration camps and put them all there. With this food shortage we may need some Soylent Green in the next few years (and we all know what IT is made of).
The world is going to be such a more pleasant place once we get rid of those dregs to society. Next step after social engineering; genetic engineering!
Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
just the quick def search here and then I'm off for a lovely dinner and red carpet viewing of the rich and famous haughty attitude or temper; a contemptuous manner
this was your post....hate is such a strong word pandora. i dont hate anybody.. but there are people i have no time for. and i dont feel that patronising them is constructive, so they tend to figure out quick how i feel.
sounding a bit high horse...ish to me..... in my opinion though
enjoy your the rest of your day cate
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In the United States, 51% of pregnancies are intended & 49% of pregnancies are unintended. I know that's a percentage of pregnancies & not of people, but hopefully that kind of answers your first question.
Source for that statistic ?
Those numbers don't add up to me. It's common sense to know that unintended pregnancies are higher than planned pregnancies. Don't you agree ?
Pregnancies in people can't be done without people so how is your percentage information not about people ?
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i am a mom and you are children to me could you be any more condescending? :roll:
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It's better than sarcasm
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Hey friend, I'm fine..... thanks for asking, kind of you
how's it been going for you lately
im not your friend pandora and i have no desire to ever be your friend. so i dont really care if youre fine or not.
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nope... just choosing to ignore it.
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I do that too I get it...
well unless you jump all over a fellow believer.
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hate is such a strong word pandora. i dont hate anybody.. but there are people i have no time for. and i dont feel that patronising them is constructive, so they tend to figure out quick how i feel.
take a good look
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hold my hand
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is that a high horse I see?
I'll leave you to yourself then
life can be humbling though
this I know.
pfft as if i dont already know that pandora. you seem to forget there are some here who are parents and grandparents and as old as the boys in the band.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
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and yes I know you know and are not a young person
doesn't change the message though,
people tell each other things they already know
and they often divert from the words.
Be well and enjoy your life cate
and just so were sure here.. what high horse would that be??
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
and yes I know you know and are not a young person
doesn't change the message though,
Back to the subject at hand....I'm just curious does anyone know what is the percentage of people whether poor, middle rich, or just plain rich plan on and implement trying to have a child? Is that percentage high or low and if it is high are all those people irresponsible?
Peace
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haughty attitude or temper; a contemptuous manner
this was your post....hate is such a strong word pandora. i dont hate anybody.. but there are people i have no time for. and i dont feel that patronising them is constructive, so they tend to figure out quick how i feel.
sounding a bit high horse...ish to me..... in my opinion though
enjoy your the rest of your day cate
In the United States, 51% of pregnancies are intended & 49% of pregnancies are unintended. I know that's a percentage of pregnancies & not of people, but hopefully that kind of answers your first question.
As for your second question, that obviously depends on who you ask. I don't think it's my place to judge. But for those who think it's their place to judge whether a person/couple is irresponsible for having children under less than ideal conditions, I'll have to agree with the posters here who have already noted that practically no one is able to bring children into this world under ideal conditions.
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Tinkerbell i know what you mean and i've been there as a single father taking care of my daughter with some help from my mother. I had to sacrifice so many things i loved but all the things i did give up I in return gave to my daughter who had to survive abuse from her mother.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Thank you, I was guessing that it was going to be average or medium ground. I'm in the unintended group but I was beyond ecstatic....my other half at the time not so much.
I gather I don't think of myself as irresponsible in having a pregnancy which was unplanned. Things weren't perfect and they were many struggles, I almost had my car repossessed, fell behind on some bills etc. My daughter's birth now 14 was not under ideal situation but it made strong and more focused as a father.
I took a 5 week maternity leave and it was a good thing I did in that my wife at the time of our daughter's birth went into a depression. I jumped into action by prepping the bottles, giving baths, playing and reading stories..etc. I did all what was needed to be done and more as a Dad.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Then, after he got out of the service, both my parents had trouble finding jobs when we moved here. We never lost our home or had to get food stamps, but that's only because we were FORTUNATE enough to have family members who could help us pay the bills until my parents were able to secure better incomes. Not everyone is so fortunate. We did, however, have to use public funding for healthcare. Would any of you, with children & no health insurance, hesitate for a second to use public assistance to provide healthcare for your child? I hope not.
I used this "welfare" funding for healthcare again when I was in college, working 50 hours/week at $4.25/hour with no option to buy health insurance. Was I a lazy, irresponsible person taking taxpayers' money & giving nothing back? Absolutely not. My taxes have paid and continue to pay into that system and I wouldn't hesitate to use it again if I needed to.
Not only is there no ideal time to have a child, but you can't even always control how many children you have. And you never, ever know when, 15 years later, your circumstances might change and you might need public assistance to help care for your children - no matter how responsible your choices have been.
I'm glad you (and your family) were fortunate enough to have the option to take paternity leave to jump in to care for your family when needed. Unfortunately (as you know), many, many people in this country aren't so fortunate. :(
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I don't feel guilty for thinking having a zillion babies that you can't take care of is just plain silly.
Instead of waiting for the stupid, fat, and poor people to die off slowly, can we just go into their homes and kill them? They aren't going to have kids to give their homes and other assets to, so we may as well take that stuff now.
Okay, so that might be a bit much. Instead, let's build concentration camps and put them all there. With this food shortage we may need some Soylent Green in the next few years (and we all know what IT is made of).
The world is going to be such a more pleasant place once we get rid of those dregs to society. Next step after social engineering; genetic engineering!
:roll:
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Source for that statistic ?
Those numbers don't add up to me. It's common sense to know that unintended pregnancies are higher than planned pregnancies. Don't you agree ?
Pregnancies in people can't be done without people so how is your percentage information not about people ?
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