What is the minimum income requirement for having sex?
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People around here are always saying that you shouldn't have a kid if you can't afford to pay for him/her. We all know that the ONLY way to certainly avoid pregnancy is to not have sex. So I'm wondering, how much money should a person have - in income AND savings - before he or she gets to have sex? What is this magic number that would pull someone with kids off your list of irresponsible people? How much money should YOU have before you get to have sex (or DID you have when you started)? And if you've ever dropped below this magic number, did you STOP having sex immediately? Would you? How would your spouse/partner feel about this?
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1)sex with a world class prostitute $1200
2)room comped saved $300 to $400
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Doesn't answer the question no but I love your story and I think there is a lesson there.
Children are life changing for some people...we all wish it was so for all children,
that is what the innocent deserve.
Unfortunately that's not the case sometimes, far from a perfect world.
I personally believe in people being responsible for themselves
and their children financially.
I was raised like this, my children were and I'm assuming their children will be.
Above and beyond that, some parents want better for their children then they had.
Some parents raise children who have children when they are still children themselves
and that cycle continues.
History does repeat itself
I'm going with one of the posters above
I'm going with ....
being responsible enough to use a condom and foam and a diaphragm....
quite effective at preventing pregnancy which really is the answer.
Use protection if you can't afford to raise a child on your own.
If you can't afford protection each time you want to have sex
avoid fornication and rely on other forms of gratification.
Not necessarliy a bad thing
But it doesn't always work as a method to avoid pregnancy, we have 4 kids and 2 (the 1st and last) walk this Earth as living proff that it doesn't work!
I had 50 bucks (maybe) in my pocket the first time I had sex
I wouldn't think that the amount of money would pull someone off the list for me. What would, would be the fact that they have no structure in their life. Structure (and responsible behaviour) would evolve into placing your life with that child first, for example, financially. Children are exposed to neglect in poor families and financially secured families.
I would not ever want to see a human being deprived of sexual pleasure (between two people) because of money. You would be missing out on that energy and for what ... money ? Fuck that.
Now, in a relationship, yes, I understood that I was not financially prepared if my partner and I got pregnant and took precautions for that. I would say 25,000 to 50,000 in the 'bank' to have a child with at least one income coming in after birth.
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$0.14 in savings (in a 5 gallon water bottle)
no checking account
the poorer i am the more lady friends i have.
the shittier my car gets the more women i have.
if i were a multi-millionaire i would be without female companionship
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i'm pretty sure i was flat broke.
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So let's get serious and hear a number - especially from you, HeidiJam.
just from personal experience, I Iike to be 100% prepared for everytihg financially. My fiance wants to have two kids one day, but I always tell her I only want one because thats all we can afford now. But both of our parents have said that you're never feel ready for kids, and that even if you're not financially secure, we'll "find a way" to get by. I don't like this idea, but the more and more people I talk to about this, the more I realize that is reality in many cases.
I cant imagine putting an exact amount on it, but presonally, I'd like to have 10K-12K in the bank before I have a kid.
I'm sure its hard to budget too. I have an older brother who was apparently an inexpensive kid. I was expensive though -- sick all the time, allergies, fucked up teeth that needed braces, monthly trips to the emergency room, wrecked my dads car (older of course).. accident prone to say the least.
there is no number for love, my wife and I had just bought our first home in 1990 and new used car for her, she was making $8hr and I was making $10hr needles to say in 1994 things where still tight,then one day I'm at work and she drives into the yard and sez "I'm pregnant" I had never seen her so happy before,she was not supposed to be able to have children...I got dizzy and almost passed out.
but as tight as things were our son was and still is the best gift we have ever received, money or not.
Godfather.
As FiveB also noted, you need to be mature and mentally prepared as well.
Then again, I don't have any kids so what the hell do I know.
The government has no right to say, "well you're a dumbass for having a kid at 19 years with $300 in your bank account so we're withholding all benefits you'd otherwise be entitled to."
WE have no right to judge someone for having a kid with little previous financial success. I guess you could conceivably judge if you didn't ever have sex until you were financially secure (whatever that means).
If I'm interpreting this correctly, and I think I am, the OP is saying that you are being obnoxious, arrogant, and pretentious by judging people who aren't finacially secure that decide not to kill the baby. Is it ideal? FUCK no!!! But let me tell you guys something that have never had a kid... it is NEVER the ideal time to have a kid. You can NEVER be completely ready.
If you can't afford basic needs for yourself (food,clothes,shelter,shoes, etc.) then you should not be having children. Babies/children need double the basic needs that adults do.
I don't understand how this concept is so hard to realize?
I feel bad for the people like you ( _)who think poor people should be able to do whatever they want and continually to be funded by the Gov. Because in reality it only hurts the poor people. Children born to parents who can't provide for them usually follow the same path as their parents.
Maybe we should teach personal responsibility in public school.
so what are you proposing specifically?
Forced abortion?
No government entitlement programs for the poor, only the rich?
:?
so, you are proposing that we don't allow them to have sex? How exactly are we going to enforce this?
Let me guess... are they all black, too?
woohoo... social engineering! Sig Heil!
So, you are proposing that we allow them to have as many children that they want? Who exactly is going to pay for this?
Let me guess... your are racist?
woohoo.... No personal responsibility.
So, please tell me again why is it ok to force me to pay into the welfare system?
jesus christ so now you're proposing that we take kids away from their parents simply because they aren't financially successful? WOW I just don't know what to say... :shock: