Shut up and fix it...

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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    cincybearcat wrote:
    inmytree wrote:


    blah blah blah...

    Fix it...


    They certainly better walk the walk after talking the talk. But to think they can just get in and "Fix it" when they didn't get the necessary seats in the Senate ot take control and you still have a Dem president is pretty crazy really.

    I think part of the frustration for people was the fact that the Dems controlled everything...and what did they get done? This is a big victory for the Rep. for sure, but not big enough. And they certainly can't let it go to their heads and use the victory as a reason to not compromise, which I think they may. If they do, they should lose all the support they gained as they haven't learned anything.

    I never claimed to be sane... ;)

    seriously...for the past two years, I heard about socialism and out of control spending...the teabagger/repubs claim they were the answer to all of our nations ills...well, it's time for them quit their bitchin' and get to fixing it...

    sadly, I fear we'll be treated to stupid "investigations" and more no's...

    it's going to be an interesting couple years...
  • wolfamongwolves
    wolfamongwolves Posts: 2,414
    cincybearcat wrote:
    inmytree wrote:


    blah blah blah...

    Fix it...


    They certainly better walk the walk after talking the talk. But to think they can just get in and "Fix it" when they didn't get the necessary seats in the Senate ot take control and you still have a Dem president is pretty crazy really.

    I think part of the frustration for people was the fact that the Dems controlled everything...and what did they get done? This is a big victory for the Rep. for sure, but not big enough. And they certainly can't let it go to their heads and use the victory as a reason to not compromise, which I think they may. If they do, they should lose all the support they gained as they haven't learned anything.

    I think it's already become fairly apparent that the linchpin of their agenda is "no compromise, no matter what"... at least in the case of the Tea Party sympathisers. Of course they haven't learned anything, because they refuse to think objectively or constructively. And I'm not saying that there aren't Democrats for whom the same isn't true either.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    Smellyman wrote:
    job_lost_bush_vs_obama_2010.jpg


    It'll be interesting to see if those "job gains" are due to government spending and short-lived once the $ is gone.

    It's easy to gain jobs when you are writing checks left and right.

    So, you've been happy with the progress in the last couple of years?
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  • Electric_Delta
    Electric_Delta Posts: 977
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    Nancy Pelosi is no longer Speaker; that is enough of a reason to be happy.
    :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
    :clap::clap::clap::D:D:D:lol::lol:
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • Electric_Delta
    Electric_Delta Posts: 977
    inmytree wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    inmytree wrote:


    blah blah blah...

    Fix it...


    They certainly better walk the walk after talking the talk. But to think they can just get in and "Fix it" when they didn't get the necessary seats in the Senate ot take control and you still have a Dem president is pretty crazy really.

    I think part of the frustration for people was the fact that the Dems controlled everything...and what did they get done? This is a big victory for the Rep. for sure, but not big enough. And they certainly can't let it go to their heads and use the victory as a reason to not compromise, which I think they may. If they do, they should lose all the support they gained as they haven't learned anything.

    I never claimed to be sane... ;)

    seriously...for the past two years, I heard about socialism and out of control spending...the teabagger/repubs claim they were the answer to all of our nations ills...well, it's time for them quit their bitchin' and get to fixing it...

    sadly, I fear we'll be treated to stupid "investigations" and more no's...

    it's going to be an interesting couple years...

    If the "NO's" are to policies which make us wage slaves to the Chinese, then by all means...MORE NO's.
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    wolfamongwolves wrote:
    Here's a salutory point for exuberant Republicans. The editorial on Obama's press coference in today's Guardian:

    "The Republicans have gained control of more than just the House of Representatives. They now co-own the management of the crises that go with it. Mr Obama was saying nothing more than: welcome back, folks, to the mess you bequeathed me"
    +1....

    let's see what they can do after they go through their investigations...most likely nothing...


    :lol::lol::lol: That's hillarious. Like the republicans made Obama put us trillions of dollars in debt with all his bullshit bogus spending. Kids have been in Washington too long, spending money like they're in a candy store. Time for Washington to man up!! Show em how it's done republicans......listening to the people that is. No more Washington thinking they are above the people....we the people will destroy your career. I give alot of credit to the Tea Party. Good job AMERICANS!

    Yes you are right, it was the democrats ... (maybe not)... Your big gaps are Reagan/Bush and Bush Jr.

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  • Electric_Delta
    Electric_Delta Posts: 977
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Smellyman wrote:
    job_lost_bush_vs_obama_2010.jpg


    It'll be interesting to see if those "job gains" are due to government spending and short-lived once the $ is gone.

    It's easy to gain jobs when you are writing checks left and right.

    So, you've been happy with the progress in the last couple of years?

    By the way, this stupid chart is probably counting temporary census jobs.
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,079
    cincybearcat wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    mitch mcconnell said yesterday that their legislative goal it to make obama a one term president. does that sound like they are willing to compromise on anything? not to me it doesn't....


    I agree with this.

    As far as the rest, the dems controlled the white house, the senate and the house. No excuses, the ball was in their court and they punted.
    no excuses? why was everything filibustered and had to have 60 votes to even break the filibuster before it could pass the senate?? they did not control 60 seats...nor did they even have the 2/3 majority to pass things even without a filibuster...the gop in this term has used the filibuster as a stalling tactic the most out of any senate term in the history of the country...come on, you are smarter than that cincy. stop pointing fingers and acknowledge that at least..
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  • wolfamongwolves
    wolfamongwolves Posts: 2,414
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    By the way, this stupid chart is probably counting temporary census jobs.

    Every single one of your comments has been flippant, glib and vacuous. Do you actually have anything of substance to say.
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    96: Cork, Dublin
    00: Dublin
    06: London, Dublin
    07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    09: Manchester, London
    10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
    11: San José
    12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
  • Electric_Delta
    Electric_Delta Posts: 977
    edited November 2010
    wolfamongwolves wrote:
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    By the way, this stupid chart is probably counting temporary census jobs.

    Every single one of your comments has been flippant, glib and vacuous. Do you actually have anything of substance to say.

    Because I'm not bashing the Tea Party or George Bush?
    Post edited by Electric_Delta on
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • wolfamongwolves
    wolfamongwolves Posts: 2,414
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    wolfamongwolves wrote:
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    By the way, this stupid chart is probably counting temporary census jobs.

    Every single one of your comments has been flippant, glib and vacuous. Do you actually have anything of substance to say.

    Do you?

    I've said my pieces. I hope i've contributed to the discussion a little bit, I believe.
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    96: Cork, Dublin
    00: Dublin
    06: London, Dublin
    07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    09: Manchester, London
    10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
    11: San José
    12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    wolfamongwolves wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    inmytree wrote:


    blah blah blah...

    Fix it...


    They certainly better walk the walk after talking the talk. But to think they can just get in and "Fix it" when they didn't get the necessary seats in the Senate ot take control and you still have a Dem president is pretty crazy really.

    I think part of the frustration for people was the fact that the Dems controlled everything...and what did they get done? This is a big victory for the Rep. for sure, but not big enough. And they certainly can't let it go to their heads and use the victory as a reason to not compromise, which I think they may. If they do, they should lose all the support they gained as they haven't learned anything.

    I think it's already become fairly apparent that the linchpin of their agenda is "no compromise, no matter what"... at least in the case of the Tea Party sympathisers. Of course they haven't learned anything, because they refuse to think objectively or constructively. And I'm not saying that there aren't Democrats for whom the same isn't true either.

    Yeah, I'm concerned about that. For me, it would be potentially the final stake in the Repub party.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    wolfamongwolves wrote:
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    By the way, this stupid chart is probably counting temporary census jobs.

    Every single one of your comments has been flippant, glib and vacuous. Do you actually have anything of substance to say.


    That is a valid statement. I can make a chart look the way I want if I may the rules of what gets out in.
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    cincybearcat wrote:
    wolfamongwolves wrote:
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    By the way, this stupid chart is probably counting temporary census jobs.

    Every single one of your comments has been flippant, glib and vacuous. Do you actually have anything of substance to say.


    That is a valid statement. I can make a chart look the way I want if I may the rules of what gets out in.

    straight from Hannity's mouth....
  • wolfamongwolves
    wolfamongwolves Posts: 2,414
    cincybearcat wrote:
    wolfamongwolves wrote:
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    By the way, this stupid chart is probably counting temporary census jobs.

    Every single one of your comments has been flippant, glib and vacuous. Do you actually have anything of substance to say.


    That is a valid statement. I can make a chart look the way I want if I may the rules of what gets out in.
    No doubt you could, but that would be purely speculative.

    I just take umbrage with people who are smug when they're winning and dismissive when they're challenged.
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    96: Cork, Dublin
    00: Dublin
    06: London, Dublin
    07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    09: Manchester, London
    10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
    11: San José
    12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    cincybearcat wrote:
    wolfamongwolves wrote:
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    By the way, this stupid chart is probably counting temporary census jobs.

    Every single one of your comments has been flippant, glib and vacuous. Do you actually have anything of substance to say.


    That is a valid statement. I can make a chart look the way I want if I may the rules of what gets out in.
    For the most part, I avoid trusting charts and graphs unless they are done by neutral 3rd parties and they provide the conditions for which the data was collected.

    My employment chart is in my brain and memory. Good times in the 90's. Bad times during dot.com bust and 9/11 until 2003. Average to good times through 2006. Bad times from 2007 to current time. Charts can be made to justify anything but I'll let my eyeballs figure this out. Of course, my analysis is subjective of my travels through the West Coast and the Midwest and the hiring patterns of the businesses I've worked for.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,079
    cincybearcat wrote:
    wolfamongwolves wrote:
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    By the way, this stupid chart is probably counting temporary census jobs.

    Every single one of your comments has been flippant, glib and vacuous. Do you actually have anything of substance to say.


    That is a valid statement. I can make a chart look the way I want if I may the rules of what gets out in.
    yes but the chart in question is from the us dept of labor statistics...
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  • pjtaper
    pjtaper Posts: 3,020
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Electric_Delta wrote:

    If the "NO's" are to policies which make us wage slaves to the Chinese, then by all means...MORE NO's.


    again...blah blah blah...what are y'all going to do to fix it...?
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    yes but the chart in question is from the us dept of labor statistics...

    Always trust the gov't right? That's what you've taught me. ;)

    And it still includes what % of temporary jobs...stimulus $ jobs, etc. You cannot simply compare 2 time frames without the context. And I never said it isn't a real trend for the long haul, though I do question it, what I said was it would be interesting to see if it held or dropped off when the $ is all gone.
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