The Big 5 College Basketball Thread

Johnny Abruzzo

pjhawks wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

from philly.com chat:

Keith Pompey: Just got word from Temple. Scootie is day to day. The Owls don't know where the internet rumors came from.

This guy personally spread the rumor of a broken foot for Scootie. :roll: Scared the shit out of me.

I feel really bad for Eric, but I think people are overestimating the impact. He's barely played in 2nd halves the whole year.

That overmatched Richmond team beat Temple last year. Pretty much all the same players. The Owls just played a great game. And, looking back through this thread, you know I'm tough on my team. Last 2 games they have been great.

last year they had Gonzalvez as their 2 man. he was great. they don't have that this year. still a good team yes but was actually more praising temple with that comment. fran has everyone playing well at the moment. temple's depth has been a huge plus this year. they haven't had to rely on fernandez or moore to score each game. they've really gotten a lot out of randall and wyatt.

Definitely an impressive array of guards. Speaking of guards, McKie/Jones/Brunson to be honored at halftime Sunday. Those guys were fucking amazing. We should retire all of their numbers.

The Juggler

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

last year they had Gonzalvez as their 2 man. he was great. they don't have that this year. still a good team yes but was actually more praising temple with that comment. fran has everyone playing well at the moment. temple's depth has been a huge plus this year. they haven't had to rely on fernandez or moore to score each game. they've really gotten a lot out of randall and wyatt.

Definitely an impressive array of guards. Speaking of guards, McKie/Jones/Brunson to be honored at halftime Sunday. Those guys were fucking amazing. We should retire all of their numbers.

man those temple teams were fun to watch in the early 90's....

The Juggler

Swilling leaves St. Joe’s after violation

Freshman guard Patrick Swilling is no longer enrolled at St. Joseph's University because of an undisclosed violation of the university code. The son of NFL Hall of Fame player Pat Swilling averaged 1.3 points a game.

Also, junior center Todd O'Brien was not available for Sunday's game at Temple, but the 7-footer is expected to rejoin the Hawks following completion of a university judicial process.

jconn12

The entire program is dead. Martelli needs to be fired he is such an asshole. He openly blasts his players after the game and calls his fan base jackasses. Phil it is not 2004, you killed this program because after Jameer you were satisified with you accomplishments and are literally sleeping on the job. His offense is so god damn bad a flex offense that goes no were but east west for 30 seconds and then one of his 4 streaky shooters that are the "future" chuck up an off balance 3 and the other team comes down and gives it to there bigs for a very easy bucket. At the xavier game this week a nationally ranked team was in the fieldhouse and half the building was empty. This team doesnt even have to be compared to nova or temple, how about xavier they were also in the elite 8 in 04 and look what they have turned there program into. How can you be the #1 team in the nation and the next 6 seasons have one tourney appearance! How does he think he deserves to keep his job while crippling the entire program?

Johnny Abruzzo

Lavoy Allen (Temple's all-time leading rebounder): "Our student section was a little crazy today."

Yeah, you think? They all wore black t-shirts that said "RIP The Hawk."

They had a black coffin that said SJU, and a headstone that said "He Flaps No More." :shock:

Then a banner: The 5 Stages of Grief. :idea:
5 more banners:
Denial: 55 Years Chanting THWND :roll:
Anger: Top Recruits - 7-18 Record :?
Bargaining: Martelli's Severance Package
Depression: Back-to-Back no Atlantic City :!:
Acceptance: 9 in a Row :P

Then 3 loud rousing chants: "I BELIEVE THE HAWK IS DEAD"

Also today, new football coach Steve Addazio got the old lady behind me to run onto the court and bulldoze the Hawk. Well, not quite, but everybody in there was ready to run down Broad St. to the Linc and play some football.

21-5 Owls are coming after you Duke! See you Wednesday!

(just a slightly drunk post)

The Juggler

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Lavoy Allen (Temple's all-time leading rebounder): "Our student section was a little crazy today."

Yeah, you think? They all wore black t-shirts that said "RIP The Hawk."

They had a black coffin that said SJU, and a headstone that said "He Flaps No More." :shock:

Then a banner: The 5 Stages of Grief. :idea:
5 more banners:
Denial: 55 Years Chanting THWND :roll:
Anger: Top Recruits - 7-18 Record :?
Bargaining: Martelli's Severance Package
Depression: Back-to-Back no Atlantic City :!:
Acceptance: 9 in a Row :P

Then 3 loud rousing chants: "I BELIEVE THE HAWK IS DEAD"

Also today, new football coach Steve Addazio got the old lady behind me to run onto the court and bulldoze the Hawk. Well, not quite, but everybody in there was ready to run down Broad St. to the Linc and play some football.

21-5 Owls are coming after you Duke! See you Wednesday!

(just a slightly drunk post)

i'm looking forward to wednesday's showdown

pjhawks

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Lavoy Allen (Temple's all-time leading rebounder): "Our student section was a little crazy today."

Yeah, you think? They all wore black t-shirts that said "RIP The Hawk."

They had a black coffin that said SJU, and a headstone that said "He Flaps No More." :shock:

Then a banner: The 5 Stages of Grief. :idea:
5 more banners:
Denial: 55 Years Chanting THWND :roll:
Anger: Top Recruits - 7-18 Record :?
Bargaining: Martelli's Severance Package
Depression: Back-to-Back no Atlantic City :!:
Acceptance: 9 in a Row :P

Then 3 loud rousing chants: "I BELIEVE THE HAWK IS DEAD"

Also today, new football coach Steve Addazio got the old lady behind me to run onto the court and bulldoze the Hawk. Well, not quite, but everybody in there was ready to run down Broad St. to the Linc and play some football.

21-5 Owls are coming after you Duke! See you Wednesday!

(just a slightly drunk post)

Johnny as depressing at that is/was that was a classic job done by the Temple students. major props for that. To put that together down to a mock funeral and the tshirts was an awesome job. and the chant at the end was insanely loud even on tv. even though we suck i guess we still have some cache with temple fans, was that your largest crowd of the year? looked packed.

Johnny Abruzzo

pjhawks wrote:

Johnny as depressing at that is/was that was a classic job done by the Temple students. major props for that. To put that together down to a mock funeral and the tshirts was an awesome job. and the chant at the end was insanely loud even on tv. even though we suck i guess we still have some cache with temple fans, was that your largest crowd of the year? looked packed.

It wasn't that long ago that we lost 10 in a row (or something like that) to SJU. Memories aren't that short. Yeah, I think that was the biggest crowd of the season - even more than G-Town.

The "I Believe that we have won" chant (modified for St. Joe's, of course ) is an awesome development of the past few years. The rest of the crowd is starting to get into it a little bit too.

You're a good sport for still watching that game to the finish - I never would've guessed.

pjhawks

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

Johnny as depressing at that is/was that was a classic job done by the Temple students. major props for that. To put that together down to a mock funeral and the tshirts was an awesome job. and the chant at the end was insanely loud even on tv. even though we suck i guess we still have some cache with temple fans, was that your largest crowd of the year? looked packed.

It wasn't that long ago that we lost 10 in a row (or something like that) to SJU. Memories aren't that short. Yeah, I think that was the biggest crowd of the season - even more than G-Town.

The "I Believe that we have won" chant (modified for St. Joe's, of course ) is an awesome development of the past few years. The rest of the crowd is starting to get into it a little bit too.

You're a good sport for still watching that game to the finish - I never would've guessed.

what can i say i am a pathetic loser die-hard fan and i never turn my teams games off because you never know what might happen (eagles-giants for example, injuries, etc.). and that crowd chanting/dancing at the end is why college hoops is the best. i love seeing that stuff (except at duke, f those kids). the fun and enthusiasm is great. maybe someday being a hawk fan will be fun again.

i hope you can win on wednesday. allen is going to have to stay in the game all 40 minutes and moore is going to have to score. duke is basically a 2-3 man team. their white big guys suck. it's all about smith, singler and dawkins/curry. keep them from a big run and i expect you guys to be close to the end. i'm sure duke will get all the calls though.

Johnny Abruzzo

Owls managed to drop from 23rd to 24th in AP poll after two blowout wins, including over 9-2 in the A-10 Richmond. If we beat Duke we'll probably drop out of the poll altogether. :roll: :?

Also, Lunardi dropped us from 6 seed to 7 seed. What do we have to win by 100 every game?

Tough L for Cats - little too sloppy there. I guess they make a lot of money from those WF Center games, but they have no home court advantage at all.

The Juggler

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Owls managed to drop from 23rd to 24th in AP poll after two blowout wins, including over 9-2 in the A-10 Richmond. If we beat Duke we'll probably drop out of the poll altogether. :roll: :?

Also, Lunardi dropped us from 6 seed to 7 seed. What do we have to win by 100 every game?

Tough L for Cats - little too sloppy there. I guess they make a lot of money from those WF Center games, but they have no home court advantage at all.

nova is the top 4 seed according to lunardi. who the hell knows what it will be in a couple weeks though. they gotta win 2 of their last 3 (against some of the best schools in the country :roll: )...first they need to get their heads out of their asses.

i'm really looking forward to temple/duke on wednesday.

Johnny Abruzzo

The Juggler wrote:

i'm really looking forward to temple/duke on wednesday.

This is a big opportunity for a signature win for this team. That Kansas game last year was rather disgraceful; we need a better showing in this game. This program gets no respect from the media, the polls, the selection committee, or even its own city. Just barely in the Top 25 after huge wins at Dayton & vs. Richmond. And the mock seeding has DROPPED from 6 to 7 in the past week. 7 seed? WTF

The Juggler

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

i'm really looking forward to temple/duke on wednesday.

This is a big opportunity for a signature win for this team. That Kansas game last year was rather disgraceful; we need a better showing in this game. This program gets no respect from the media, the polls, the selection committee, or even its own city. Just barely in the Top 25 after huge wins at Dayton & vs. Richmond. And the mock seeding has DROPPED from 6 to 7 in the past week. 7 seed? WTF

i think they get respect in the city. but the bottom line is what you do in march and temple hasn't won a tourney game in what, 10 years? more respect/exposure will come once they start winning in march again...

Johnny Abruzzo

The Juggler wrote:

i think they get respect in the city. but the bottom line is what you do in march and temple hasn't won a tourney game in what, 10 years? more respect/exposure will come once they start winning in march again...

I'm trying not to make too many excuses, but that Cornell team was absolutely loaded and was ridiculously seeded at 12. Sorry Jeags, but Nova would've had NO CHANCE against that team. And you could easily argue that Temple should've been seeded higher than Villanova last year. (Didn't Nova almost blow the 2/15 game last year?)

The Juggler

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

i think they get respect in the city. but the bottom line is what you do in march and temple hasn't won a tourney game in what, 10 years? more respect/exposure will come once they start winning in march again...

I'm trying not to make too many excuses, but that Cornell team was absolutely loaded and was ridiculously seeded at 12. Sorry Jeags, but Nova would've had NO CHANCE against that team. And you could easily argue that Temple should've been seeded higher than Villanova last year. (Didn't Nova almost blow the 2/15 game last year?)

isn't that an excuse though? :?

it is what it is. they didn't win. i'm just saying more respect will come once they finally get over the hump in the tourney. i'm not trying to knock them. i like temple. about time they do something in march though.....they had plenty of respect back in the 80's/90's/very early 2000's when they made all those runs.

pjhawks

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

i think they get respect in the city. but the bottom line is what you do in march and temple hasn't won a tourney game in what, 10 years? more respect/exposure will come once they start winning in march again...

I'm trying not to make too many excuses, but that Cornell team was absolutely loaded and was ridiculously seeded at 12. Sorry Jeags, but Nova would've had NO CHANCE against that team. And you could easily argue that Temple should've been seeded higher than Villanova last year. (Didn't Nova almost blow the 2/15 game last year?)

agree Cornell was loaded and was a complete joke they were a 12th (should have been 7-9 in my mind) seed but you are going to have to beat good teams in the NCAAs unless you get a 1 or 2 seed. Everyone else is tough. Remember too that if the Big East gets 11 teams some of the seedings have to be re-arranged due to the rules about teams from the same conferences not meeting each other until the regionals. seeing 10 or 11 big east teams is going to be a nightmare so that might be why temple dropped in lunardi's bracketology.

Johnny Abruzzo

Looking at Temple's inside RPI on espn, the 5 games against MAC teams really kill their RPI. This contract of playing MAC teams is winding down soon, thankfully. Even going 5-0 against these teams, having all these out-of-conference games against 150+ RPI teams is a killer. Not to mention the games were boring as all hell.

By the way, the MAC contract is a by-product of the football team joining the MAC, which has worked out pretty well so far. Still sucks for the basketball team, which is always the first priority at Temple.

pjhawks

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Looking at Temple's inside RPI on espn, the 5 games against MAC teams really kill their RPI. This contract of playing MAC teams is winding down soon, thankfully. Even going 5-0 against these teams, having all these out-of-conference games against 150+ RPI teams is a killer. Not to mention the games were boring as all hell.

By the way, the MAC contract is a by-product of the football team joining the MAC, which has worked out pretty well so far. Still sucks for the basketball team, which is always the first priority at Temple.

i'm sure the hawks 200+ rpi didn't help either. beat duke though, no way they should be #1.

Johnny Abruzzo

pjhawks wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Looking at Temple's inside RPI on espn, the 5 games against MAC teams really kill their RPI. This contract of playing MAC teams is winding down soon, thankfully. Even going 5-0 against these teams, having all these out-of-conference games against 150+ RPI teams is a killer. Not to mention the games were boring as all hell.

By the way, the MAC contract is a by-product of the football team joining the MAC, which has worked out pretty well so far. Still sucks for the basketball team, which is always the first priority at Temple.

i'm sure the hawks 200+ rpi didn't help either. beat duke though, no way they should be #1.

Right, but we can't control the A-10 schedule. If we get blown out tomorrow I will have to eat a lot of crow.

Johnny Abruzzo

Scootie will miss the Duke game. He had a really bad limp on Sunday. Dammit. I don't think we have a prayer. :evil: