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HesCalledDyer

Indifference71 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

He was making $5.7 million a year at FSU, guaranteed thru 2024. How rich do you need to be?
I keep hearing all this bullshit about the facilities being so much better. Of course some SECSPN analyst will say that since there so far up that conference’s ass.  FSU’s facilities are just as good. Maybe not as big, but just as good. They spent a shit ton updgrading after the championship season to make everything state-of-the-art and up to par with other big universities - because he asked for it, and the school made it happen.  FSU would’ve bent over backwards for the guy. Instead he turned his back on FSU. Didn’t even have the balls to tell his coaches and players, he let the media do it for him. This is what you hired, Texas A&M.  Like they say about women who cheat - once a cheater, always a cheater. He turned his back on us, don’t think he won’t do it to A&M if greener dollars are waived his way. 
Looking like we might go after Willie Taggart. He’s a Florida native and pretty much put USF on the map during his time there. And he’s a Jim Harbaugh protege. I’d be happy with him.

Anyway, moving forward... Longest bowl streak in NCAA history!
F-L-O-R-I-D-A
S-T-A-T-E
(what? what?)
Florida State, Florida State, Florida State
Wooooooo!!

$40M guaranteed vs $75M guaranteed.  I'll never fault a coach for chasing money because I know I'd do the exact same thing in my career (albeit at much, much, much smaller stakes)

And FSU doesn't have facilities like this....it has turned into an arms race with all these big time football schools to open these ridiculous football specific facilities.  Clemson just opened one this year too.  


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruGMZ2qj-p8

That’s what I mean by how rich do you need to be? You and I will never know the difference between 45 and 75 million. I don’t see how one is any more life changing than the other. You’re filthy rich either way. I guess I’m just tired of greedy assholes running everything in this country and not having any loyalty to the folks that put them in the position they’re in.
I mean, don’t get me wrong. Good for him. He grew up in a little town in WV about an hour and a half from where I live. He went thru a divorce this year and maybe needed a big change of scenery to move past that. I get that. 

I just think he could’ve handled the situation a lot better. Instead of lying to the school, the players, and his coaching staff. Mr “I see things out til the end.” Its like he just gave up after one bad season. Gave up on his players, his staff, the school, and worst of all - his own ability to overcome adversity. It’s upsetting because he just signed an extension at FSU at the end of last season. And he is a great coach. I guess I’m just getting more disgusted by the money machine that runs everything these days. College football used to be about playing your heart out to hopefully get drafted as a professional one day. It used to be about pride. It’s nothing but greed anymore.

Long gone are the days of Bobby Bowdens, Tom Osbornes, Frank Beamers, & Bear Bryants. It makes me sick.

ehbacon

Terrible no call DPI gave them the game. Absolute bullshit.

KC138045

ehbacon said:

Terrible no call DPI gave them the game. Absolute bullshit.

You can't be serious. This game should of been a blow out at half time. Your badgers did not have the athletes and if JT could of hit wide open receivers this game would of never beeen in doubt. 

darwinstheory

ehbacon said:

Terrible no call DPI gave them the game. Absolute bullshit.

Welcome to Indiana, we hope you enjoy your stay. 

darwinstheory

HesCalledDyer said:

Indifference71 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

He was making $5.7 million a year at FSU, guaranteed thru 2024. How rich do you need to be?
I keep hearing all this bullshit about the facilities being so much better. Of course some SECSPN analyst will say that since there so far up that conference’s ass.  FSU’s facilities are just as good. Maybe not as big, but just as good. They spent a shit ton updgrading after the championship season to make everything state-of-the-art and up to par with other big universities - because he asked for it, and the school made it happen.  FSU would’ve bent over backwards for the guy. Instead he turned his back on FSU. Didn’t even have the balls to tell his coaches and players, he let the media do it for him. This is what you hired, Texas A&M.  Like they say about women who cheat - once a cheater, always a cheater. He turned his back on us, don’t think he won’t do it to A&M if greener dollars are waived his way. 
Looking like we might go after Willie Taggart. He’s a Florida native and pretty much put USF on the map during his time there. And he’s a Jim Harbaugh protege. I’d be happy with him.

Anyway, moving forward... Longest bowl streak in NCAA history!
F-L-O-R-I-D-A
S-T-A-T-E
(what? what?)
Florida State, Florida State, Florida State
Wooooooo!!

$40M guaranteed vs $75M guaranteed.  I'll never fault a coach for chasing money because I know I'd do the exact same thing in my career (albeit at much, much, much smaller stakes)

And FSU doesn't have facilities like this....it has turned into an arms race with all these big time football schools to open these ridiculous football specific facilities.  Clemson just opened one this year too.  


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruGMZ2qj-p8

That’s what I mean by how rich do you need to be? You and I will never know the difference between 45 and 75 million. I don’t see how one is any more life changing than the other. You’re filthy rich either way. I guess I’m just tired of greedy assholes running everything in this country and not having any loyalty to the folks that put them in the position they’re in.
I mean, don’t get me wrong. Good for him. He grew up in a little town in WV about an hour and a half from where I live. He went thru a divorce this year and maybe needed a big change of scenery to move past that. I get that. 

I just think he could’ve handled the situation a lot better. Instead of lying to the school, the players, and his coaching staff. Mr “I see things out til the end.” Its like he just gave up after one bad season. Gave up on his players, his staff, the school, and worst of all - his own ability to overcome adversity. It’s upsetting because he just signed an extension at FSU at the end of last season. And he is a great coach. I guess I’m just getting more disgusted by the money machine that runs everything these days. College football used to be about playing your heart out to hopefully get drafted as a professional one day. It used to be about pride. It’s nothing but greed anymore.

Long gone are the days of Bobby Bowdens, Tom Osbornes, Frank Beamers, & Bear Bryants. It makes me sick.

Call it money machines or whatever you want. You and I agree on a lot of things but this cannot be one of them. A dude quit coaching a schook to coach another. This move was highly anticipated. I probably heard of the rumors some 2 weeks ago +. In doing so, he received a SUBSTANTIAL guaranteed pay increase. 
 
I just left a company that paid above the median annual income and treated me very well personally, for a job that will pay me nearly double. I don't think that makes me a sellout, but rather a guy that wants to improve his (and his girlfriend's) quality of life.

Shyner

If ohio state gets in over alabama with that iowa debacle i will give up this NCAA football junk

ehbacon

KC138045 said:

ehbacon said:

Terrible no call DPI gave them the game. Absolute bullshit.

You can't be serious. This game should of been a blow out at half time. Your badgers did not have the athletes and if JT could of hit wide open receivers this game would of never beeen in doubt. 

We played the worst we could've played in othe first half. Hornibrook was awful, defense couldn't tackle. Second half we were the better team, and had a great chance to win that was severely hurt by a blown call that everyone in the entire stadium and their sister saw. We played well enough in the second half to win that game.

KC138045

Shyner said:

If ohio state gets in over alabama with that iowa debacle i will give up this NCAA football junk

I agree that Iowa loss is a huge black eye to Ohio State but Alabama does not have any key victories on their resume.  Any other year and neither of these teams are even in the conversation. 

As a die hard Buckeye fan I really dont want to face Clemson again. I don't think it will be another 31-0 game but OSU will lose. 

ehbacon

You can't just say "it would've been a blowout if we had played better", because we can say the same exact thing.


Anyway, I had fun in Indy. OSU fans were huge dicks to us which was disappointing, but I guess you cant expect better from people who live in Ohio.

KC138045

ehbacon said:

KC138045 said:

ehbacon said:

Terrible no call DPI gave them the game. Absolute bullshit.

You can't be serious. This game should of been a blow out at half time. Your badgers did not have the athletes and if JT could of hit wide open receivers this game would of never beeen in doubt. 

We played the worst we could've played in othe first half. Hornibrook was awful, defense couldn't tackle. Second half we were the better team, and had a great chance to win that was severely hurt by a blown call that everyone in the entire stadium and their sister saw. We played well enough in the second half to win that game.

JT gave you guys 7 with the pick six and we should of had 7 before half if he could hit a wide open receiver. That's a 14 point swing right there. 

Your defense got beat with speed. It wasn't bad tackling. 

KC138045

ehbacon said:

You can't just say "it would've been a blowout if we had played better", because we can say the same exact thing.


Anyway, I had fun in Indy. OSU fans were huge dicks to us which was disappointing, but I guess you cant expect better from people who live in Ohio.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience with the Buckeye fans.  We are not all like that. I love the Buckeyes but I agree we have some of the worst fans in the nation. 

Safe travels back home 

ehbacon

KC138045 said:

ehbacon said:

KC138045 said:

ehbacon said:

Terrible no call DPI gave them the game. Absolute bullshit.

You can't be serious. This game should of been a blow out at half time. Your badgers did not have the athletes and if JT could of hit wide open receivers this game would of never beeen in doubt. 

We played the worst we could've played in othe first half. Hornibrook was awful, defense couldn't tackle. Second half we were the better team, and had a great chance to win that was severely hurt by a blown call that everyone in the entire stadium and their sister saw. We played well enough in the second half to win that game.

JT gave you guys 7 with the pick six and we should of had 7 before half if he could hit a wide open receiver. That's a 14 point swing right there. 

Your defense got beat with speed. It wasn't bad tackling. 

You understand that I can just say our defense, the #1 defense in the nation coming into the game, tackled terribly and that if they had made half of the missed tackles they had we would have won big? Saying "If my team played better they would have done better" is an absolutely ridiculous argument.


There were a lot of fans that were completely fine. But they (OSU fans) were the majority so the bad ones could get away with a lot more. We got chanted at while we were just eating at a chic fil a, and my god don't get me started about the shit that they started spewing at us as soon as they won. Drunk mob mentality probably but still we just lost in heartbreaking fashion, take the win and be happy about it.

KC138045

ehbacon said:

KC138045 said:

ehbacon said:

KC138045 said:

ehbacon said:

Terrible no call DPI gave them the game. Absolute bullshit.

You can't be serious. This game should of been a blow out at half time. Your badgers did not have the athletes and if JT could of hit wide open receivers this game would of never beeen in doubt. 

We played the worst we could've played in othe first half. Hornibrook was awful, defense couldn't tackle. Second half we were the better team, and had a great chance to win that was severely hurt by a blown call that everyone in the entire stadium and their sister saw. We played well enough in the second half to win that game.

JT gave you guys 7 with the pick six and we should of had 7 before half if he could hit a wide open receiver. That's a 14 point swing right there. 

Your defense got beat with speed. It wasn't bad tackling. 

You understand that I can just say our defense, the #1 defense in the nation coming into the game, tackled terribly and that if they had made half of the missed tackles they had we would have won big? Saying "If my team played better they would have done better" is an absolutely ridiculous argument.

You being at the game and me watching on TV are different perspectives. But yes I see your point. 


And again Im sorry you were treated that way by Ohio State fans. 

Shyner

I'll take bama or ohio state to beat clemson

HesCalledDyer

darwinstheory said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Indifference71 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

He was making $5.7 million a year at FSU, guaranteed thru 2024. How rich do you need to be?
I keep hearing all this bullshit about the facilities being so much better. Of course some SECSPN analyst will say that since there so far up that conference’s ass.  FSU’s facilities are just as good. Maybe not as big, but just as good. They spent a shit ton updgrading after the championship season to make everything state-of-the-art and up to par with other big universities - because he asked for it, and the school made it happen.  FSU would’ve bent over backwards for the guy. Instead he turned his back on FSU. Didn’t even have the balls to tell his coaches and players, he let the media do it for him. This is what you hired, Texas A&M.  Like they say about women who cheat - once a cheater, always a cheater. He turned his back on us, don’t think he won’t do it to A&M if greener dollars are waived his way. 
Looking like we might go after Willie Taggart. He’s a Florida native and pretty much put USF on the map during his time there. And he’s a Jim Harbaugh protege. I’d be happy with him.

Anyway, moving forward... Longest bowl streak in NCAA history!
F-L-O-R-I-D-A
S-T-A-T-E
(what? what?)
Florida State, Florida State, Florida State
Wooooooo!!

$40M guaranteed vs $75M guaranteed.  I'll never fault a coach for chasing money because I know I'd do the exact same thing in my career (albeit at much, much, much smaller stakes)

And FSU doesn't have facilities like this....it has turned into an arms race with all these big time football schools to open these ridiculous football specific facilities.  Clemson just opened one this year too.  


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruGMZ2qj-p8

That’s what I mean by how rich do you need to be? You and I will never know the difference between 45 and 75 million. I don’t see how one is any more life changing than the other. You’re filthy rich either way. I guess I’m just tired of greedy assholes running everything in this country and not having any loyalty to the folks that put them in the position they’re in.
I mean, don’t get me wrong. Good for him. He grew up in a little town in WV about an hour and a half from where I live. He went thru a divorce this year and maybe needed a big change of scenery to move past that. I get that. 

I just think he could’ve handled the situation a lot better. Instead of lying to the school, the players, and his coaching staff. Mr “I see things out til the end.” Its like he just gave up after one bad season. Gave up on his players, his staff, the school, and worst of all - his own ability to overcome adversity. It’s upsetting because he just signed an extension at FSU at the end of last season. And he is a great coach. I guess I’m just getting more disgusted by the money machine that runs everything these days. College football used to be about playing your heart out to hopefully get drafted as a professional one day. It used to be about pride. It’s nothing but greed anymore.

Long gone are the days of Bobby Bowdens, Tom Osbornes, Frank Beamers, & Bear Bryants. It makes me sick.

Call it money machines or whatever you want. You and I agree on a lot of things but this cannot be one of them. A dude quit coaching a schook to coach another. This move was highly anticipated. I probably heard of the rumors some 2 weeks ago +. In doing so, he received a SUBSTANTIAL guaranteed pay increase. 
 
I just left a company that paid above the median annual income and treated me very well personally, for a job that will pay me nearly double. I don't think that makes me a sellout, but rather a guy that wants to improve his (and his girlfriend's) quality of life.

I assume you weren’t already making $45 million at your old job? If I took a job with a 67% pay increase right now, it would be nothing less than an absolute blessing. I’m struggling to make ends meet and going further into debt each month. Not, taking a better paying job doesn’t make everyone a sellout. But you and I aren’t making 8 figures.  If you can’t survive off $45 million, you’re doing something wrong.

Wobbie

give #4 to that cocksucker saban.....I think any of those other 3 would embarrass my buckeyes.

we can go to the rose bowl and beat SC.

northerndragon

ehbacon said:

KC138045 said:

ehbacon said:

Terrible no call DPI gave them the game. Absolute bullshit.

You can't be serious. This game should of been a blow out at half time. Your badgers did not have the athletes and if JT could of hit wide open receivers this game would of never beeen in doubt. 

We played the worst we could've played in othe first half. Hornibrook was awful, defense couldn't tackle. Second half we were the better team, and had a great chance to win that was severely hurt by a blown call that everyone in the entire stadium and their sister saw. We played well enough in the second half to win that game.

Hornibrook is a shit QB who only looks not bad because of his receivers. Wisconsin was never the better team on that field. It would have a blow out if Ohio hadn't literally handed you 14 points.
It's also why Ohio shouldn't be in the playoffs. They will end up as embarrassed as they were last year.

Wobbie

I think the never ending FSU war chant drove jimbo away. he couldn’t take another minute.

F Me In The Brain

Let the argument begin!

I say OSU gets in.

SC plays Wisconsin in their bowl game and wins.

ehbacon

northerndragon said:

ehbacon said:

KC138045 said:

ehbacon said:

Terrible no call DPI gave them the game. Absolute bullshit.

You can't be serious. This game should of been a blow out at half time. Your badgers did not have the athletes and if JT could of hit wide open receivers this game would of never beeen in doubt. 

We played the worst we could've played in othe first half. Hornibrook was awful, defense couldn't tackle. Second half we were the better team, and had a great chance to win that was severely hurt by a blown call that everyone in the entire stadium and their sister saw. We played well enough in the second half to win that game.

Hornibrook is a shit QB who only looks not bad because of his receivers. Wisconsin was never the better team on that field. It would have a blow out if Ohio hadn't literally handed you 14 points.
It's also why Ohio shouldn't be in the playoffs. They will end up as embarrassed as they were last year.

Another sighting of the "my team would've done better if they played better" argument.