Rage Against The Machine

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  • tbergs said:

    Funny to see SOAD brought up in here...

    Much like Rage, I absolutely loved their first two albums, and also just like Rage, I lost interest in them when their 3rd album came out.


    Steal this Album was pretty awesome too and it came from those Toxicity sessions. Mesmerize and Hypnotize had some good songs, but not as solid as Toxicity. I still remember illegally downloading Sugar and being blown away by that song when I first heard it. So damn awesome and lyrically nonsensical at the same time. Another band that I really fell in love with at the same time was Incubus. They had the equally crazy lyrical song Take Me to Your Leader.


    I did like a lot of Steal This Album... and the album w/ BYOB (Mesmerize) had some fantastic music and vocals, but I just couldn't take it seriously based on the lyrics, and eventually lost interest.

    I gave the 4th studio album one or two listens, but that was it for me.


    Back to Rage, if they were to do a NA tour next year, I might try to see them on the local stop for nostalgia's sake, but nothing will ever be as great as when I saw them with Wu Tang in '97. And I certainly wouldn't go out of my way or pay above face value for them.  


  • tbergstbergs Posts: 6,870
    dankind said:
    I gave up on RATM after their debut, after which they should've just officially changed their band name to The Machine. 
    No way. The rage continued on up until the end.


    It's a hopeless situation...
  • dankind said:
    RATM, System and Public Enemy all sang about shit I still don't understand...

    "What does the billboard say? Come and play, forget about the movement"  Huh?
    "The gambucha mushroom people, sitting around all day.  Who can believe you, let your mother pray"  Sure...
    "Laughing while they're searching for my 98"  I think he's talking about some test is the only thing I can come up with...
    Never got into SOAD, but RATM lyrics are about how corporations entice us to "play" so that we'll stick our heads in the sand and forget about all the hard work we have to do to achieve social justice (i.e., "the movement"); PE is about how the cops can't catch him in his Olds. Chuck loved his 98. Referenced it a lot. "My 98 was 87 on a record, yo. So now I go Bronco:"
    Hold it, so he drove an 1987 98 oldsmobile and got rid of it for a bronco?  I always thought they were searching for a test score of 98, lol!!!!

    As for RATM how about this And if the vibe was suicide, then you would push the button
    But if you're bowin' down, then let me do the cuttin'  - First part is nuclear war?
  • dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 15,423
    edited November 2019
    tbergs said:
    dankind said:
    I gave up on RATM after their debut, after which they should've just officially changed their band name to The Machine. 
    No way. The rage continued on up until the end.


    I ran merchandising for a huge corporate record store in Boston, and we had Rage -- er, The Machine -- show up for an in-store, signing, the whole deal for BoLA. Meanwhile, the independent record store maybe five or six doors away got no love.

    Drink more Ovaltine.
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  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowherePosts: 4,976
    goldrush said:
    goldrush said:
    vant0037 said:
    Evil Empire is a top 5 rock album of all time and best in RATM catalogue, there I said it.
    Evil Empire is definitely in the Top 4 RATM studio albums of all time, that's for sure...
    They really only had 3... But I like what you tried to do there.
    I was aiming for a polite way of saying that it’s my least favourite (including Renegades), but it’s still a great album  =)
    You rank renegades above Evil?
    Yep. Even though Bulls on Parade is one of my favourite Rage songs, I prefer Renegades as a whole
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  • Mike D88Mike D88 TampaPosts: 676
    the alternate arrangement of Tire Me is pretty dope


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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 6,870
    The Ghost of Tom Joad, best cover, ever.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 4,909
    Like them all but I would have to be completely blown away for anything to top Self Titled from RATM
    (Which would be awesome.)

    Right time, right place, right amount of "fuck you", right amount of anger. 

    One of my favorite things, still, to put in my ears and go to.
    Same here. I listened beginning to end at the gym the other day. Needless to say...good workout! Can’t wait to catch a show next year. 
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  • I’m glad they are fake. The only California shows are at the partial abortion that is Coachella. I want to see Rage but would never subject myself to Coachella for any band. Pearl Jam included. Everything that is wrong in life is summarized by Coachella. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 9,980
    I’m glad they are fake. The only California shows are at the partial abortion that is Coachella. I want to see Rage but would never subject myself to Coachella for any band. Pearl Jam included. Everything that is wrong in life is summarized by Coachella. 
    Yeah I keep telling myself to stop going to festivals.  I can't imagine how much worse Coachella would be over Louder than Life in Louisville.  

    I would probably do it for Rage just since I have never seen them live before.  Although I did see Prophets of Rage at LTL last year.
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    tbergs said:
    The Ghost of Tom Joad, best cover, ever.
    tbergs said:
    The Ghost of Tom Joad, best cover, ever.
    That whole album (Renegades) is pretty fucking awesome
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  • tbergs said:
    The Ghost of Tom Joad, best cover, ever.
    tbergs said:
    The Ghost of Tom Joad, best cover, ever.
    That whole album (Renegades) is pretty fucking awesome
    Their rendition of "How could I just kill a man" is horrible...

    I like Renegades and that is pretty much it for me on that album. The Minor Threat cover is good too.
  • manitoumanmanitouman In My HeadPosts: 1,057
    So any ticket updates for the confirmed shows other than Coachella? Thinking about that El Paso show but cant find any info.
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  • ZodZod Posts: 6,939
    Nope.   I don't think there's a been a peep since those 5 dates got leaked.  No venues, details, let alone ticket info.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 4,676
    tbergs said:
    The Ghost of Tom Joad, best cover, ever.
    tbergs said:
    The Ghost of Tom Joad, best cover, ever.
    That whole album (Renegades) is pretty fucking awesome
    Their rendition of "How could I just kill a man" is horrible...

    I like Renegades and that is pretty much it for me on that album. The Minor Threat cover is good too.
    You think so? I love it. 

    I think the Kick out the Jams cover isn't so hot.

  • No CoderNo Coder Brisbane Posts: 1,104
    tbergs said:
    dankind said:
    I gave up on RATM after their debut, after which they should've just officially changed their band name to The Machine. 
    No way. The rage continued on up until the end.


    Batlle of LA is an awesome album!! This clip is one of their best
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  • jefftjefft Posts: 333
    Has anyone heard anything other then Coachella? For tics or venue?
  • Just noticed this at the 1:04 mark. 
  • kasedougkasedoug The Golden StatePosts: 2,718
    jefft said:
    Has anyone heard anything other then Coachella? For tics or venue?
    They likely have to wait until after Coachella officially makes their lineup announcement in early January.
  • vant0037vant0037 Posts: 5,356
    Evil Empire.  Easy tops for me.  It is the only album of theirs that doesn't sound dated at all.  That's not a knock against the other albums; they are masterpieces as well, but almost because of the date you can hear in the sound (S/T is clearly early 90s; BOLA is clearly late 99/00).

    The guitars, the pop of the snare, bass lines are heavy and dark.  One of my top all-favorite albums.

    Here's hoping for ticket news soon!
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  • vant0037 said:
    Evil Empire.  Easy tops for me.  It is the only album of theirs that doesn't sound dated at all.  That's not a knock against the other albums; they are masterpieces as well, but almost because of the date you can hear in the sound (S/T is clearly early 90s; BOLA is clearly late 99/00).

    The guitars, the pop of the snare, bass lines are heavy and dark.  One of my top all-favorite albums.

    Here's hoping for ticket news soon!
    I agree about Evil Empire. It’s a damn near perfect album. Everything about it is awesome from the mix to the cover art. Self-Titled sounds like it was recorded in a tent during a break in fighting Gorilla style warfare. Making it so cool but Evil Empire is just a whole other level. People of the Sun into Bulls on Parade to open the album and Year of The Boomerang to close. 


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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 9,323
    My fearless prediction:

    Coachella announced on the evening of January 6.......RATM, Travis Scott & Frank Ocean are headliners.

    RATM announces ticket sales for their other shows on January 7 or January 13.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 4,676
    Frank Ocean and RATM are reasons enough to hit Coachella. 
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 4,676
    Frank Ocean alone is gonna sell out both weekends. 
  • jerparker20jerparker20 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,827
    Frank Ocean alone is gonna sell out both weekends. 
    Both weekends already sold out... back in June.
  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 9,323
    Frank Ocean alone is gonna sell out both weekends. 
    Both weekends already sold out... back in June.
    The presale sold out....they always put more on sale the week of the line-up announcement.
  • jefftjefft Posts: 333
    Boy I'd like to know more about Phoenix soon with all the pj rumors flying around.  Things might change.
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