Nobody else got a No Code vibe from the song? the sitar made me think of the version of Long Road with Nusrat Fateh Ali Kahn. I'm not saying this song is from No Code. I don't really care when its from. I would love to know the backstory just for the sake of pearl jam nerdery. All I definitely know is that I like it.
That is what I get out of it to! Though it likely isn't quite that old I definately don't hear any "newness" to it either like some are. People are speculating that it has to be after Riot Act because they were signed with Sony up until then. But that has nothing to do with it cause if the song was recorded in say 2001 but the band never handed the song over to Sony for release then Sony doesn't "own" the song. In fact every song this band has recorded since their formation they own until handing over to Sony for release. So for example if they recorded "Falling Down" or "Open Road" in 1995 those songs the band own under their own authority cause they never turned them over to Sony. So any song they release from the time of the expiration of their Sony contract would be released under "Monkeywrench Records" reguardless of when it was recorded. I'm gonna guess Riot Act sessions at the latest but could be older.
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I definately don't hear any "newness" to it either like some are. . . I'm gonna guess Riot Act sessions at the latest but could be older.
the "newness" is all over eds crappy strained voice and cheesetastic lyrics... no way its pre-RA... the optimism leads me to believe it may even be post-obama election
Oh god im sick of all this lovey optimistic crap don’t like this song at all bores the crap outta me
Hey Wolfman, 1994 called. It want's its.....................ahh, i'm just f*ckin with ya
“I know this song so well, I can smoke a cigarette, have a drink, brush my teeth, take a shit, and mow the lawn while singing it. But I'll only be doing a couple of those things during this version.”
Good point. Look at the Zeppelin 4 and Houses of the Holy songs that ended up on Physical Graffiti, and Walter's Walk on Coda was a case where the song was from the Houses of the Holy era, a riff was used on Presence, and when it finally appeared on Coda, Plant had recorded the vocal track in the early 80's after Bonham died, obviously, for the album's release. So what I'm saying, this wouldn't be the first time a band finisher and released earlier material, at a later time.
Aren't there examples of Pearl Jam doing this? Wasn't "Better Man" originally slated for "Vs.," and then re-recorded in the form that ended up on "Vitalogy"? (Yes, I know "Better Man" dates back to pre-Pearl Jam days, but I'm specifically referring to the fact that the band recorded a version when they were making "Vs." that got reworked for "Vitalogy.") I think the same was true of "Brain Of J."-- originally recorded for "No Code," then re-worked for "Yield."
Oh god im sick of all this lovey optimistic crap don’t like this song at all bores the crap outta me
Hey Wolfman, 1994 called. It want's its.....................ahh, i'm just f*ckin with ya
Whoever wants punctuation in a run-on sentence did call.. I dont know what they want back though.
I see a few things wrong with your sentence
Good times either way
“I know this song so well, I can smoke a cigarette, have a drink, brush my teeth, take a shit, and mow the lawn while singing it. But I'll only be doing a couple of those things during this version.”
If it is newer it could possibly be a demo. Mike and Jeff both said in seperate interviews recently that they recorded a bunch of demos in the Spring. This would also explain why management would be passing it around to one another now.
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This band should be so proud of the fact that a song they felt wasn't good enough for an album is simply breath taking. It's far from the first time this has happened too. They have countless songs not on albums that are mesmerizing. I wonder if God knows he overloaded the members of Pearl Jam with talent?
Good point. Look at the Zeppelin 4 and Houses of the Holy songs that ended up on Physical Graffiti, and Walter's Walk on Coda was a case where the song was from the Houses of the Holy era, a riff was used on Presence, and when it finally appeared on Coda, Plant had recorded the vocal track in the early 80's after Bonham died, obviously, for the album's release. So what I'm saying, this wouldn't be the first time a band finisher and released earlier material, at a later time.
Aren't there examples of Pearl Jam doing this? Wasn't "Better Man" originally slated for "Vs.," and then re-recorded in the form that ended up on "Vitalogy"? (Yes, I know "Better Man" dates back to pre-Pearl Jam days, but I'm specifically referring to the fact that the band recorded a version when they were making "Vs." that got reworked for "Vitalogy.") I think the same was true of "Brain Of J."-- originally recorded for "No Code," then re-worked for "Yield."
I don't know many PJ examples. I understand Severed Hand was written during the 2000 tour and then put on the shelves. Didn't make it onto Riot Act but did make it onto Self Titled. This new one may have been just that.
On another note, any opportunity I get to throw in a Zeppelin fact or analogy, I can't help myself. I still have goosebumps from when Plant joined PJ on stage in the HOB Chicago and did Fool in the Rain and Thank You, plus others. Oops, there I go again.
After having this new song on repeat for a while, I love it. Reminds me a lot of Long Road or Hard to Imagine. I'm not a voice expert but I think someone other than Ed is backing vocals in that la-la-la part. Sounds like Jeff. Can anybody put on headphones and verify?
Up here so high I start to shake, Up here so high the sky I scrape, I've no fear but for falling down, So look out below I am falling now, Falling down,...not staying down, Could’ve held me up, rather tear me down, Drown in the river
I feel part of the universe open up to meet me
My emotion so submerged, broken down to kneel in
Once listening, the voices they came
Had to somehow greet myself, read myself
Heard vibrations within my cells, in my cells
Singing, "Ah-la-ah-ah, ah-la-ah-ah"
My love is safe for the universe
See me now, I'm bursting
On one planet, so many turns
Different worlds
Singing, "Ah-la-ah-ah, ah-ah-ah-ah, ah"
(Spanish guitar solo)
Fill my heart with discipline
Put there for the teaching
In my head see clouds of stairs
Help me as I'm reaching
The future's paved with better days
Not running from something
I'm running towards the day
Wide awake
A whisper once quiet
Now rising to a scream
Right in me
I'm falling, free falling
Words calling me
Up off my knees
I'm soaring and, darling,
You'll be the one that I can need
Still be free
Our future's paved with better days
here's my take on it that i posted last night with the original post that was deleted.
our's are very similar, i think maybe 2 or 3 differences. i might like yours more though.
the more listens, the more i like it even more!
Better Days - eV
i feel part of the universe
opened up to meet me
my emotion so submerged
broken down to kneel in
once listening
voices they care
we had to somehow to greet myself, read myself
heard vibrations within myselves, in myselves, singing...
mhahhh ahaa ahhh ahaa
my love is safe for the universe
see me now i'm bursting
on one planet, so many turns
different worlds, singing...
mhahhh ahaa ahhh ahaa
fill my heart with discipline
put there for the teaching
in my head see clouds of stairs
help me as i'm reaching...
the future's paved
with better daaaaaaaayeeeeyays,
eeeeee... eeeeee....
not running
from something
i'm running
towards the day, wide a-wake
a whipser
once quiet
now arising
to a scream, arrive in me
i'm falling,
free falling,
words calling, me(eeee)....
up off... my knees.
oh i'm soaring,
yea i am darlin,
never be the world,
that i can need, stay and be free
our future's
paved with,
better days...
"one man stands the edge of the ocean
a beacon on dry land
eyes above the horizon
in the dark before the dawn..."
"i am a donut"
Aren't there examples of Pearl Jam doing this? Wasn't "Better Man" originally slated for "Vs.," and then re-recorded in the form that ended up on "Vitalogy"? (Yes, I know "Better Man" dates back to pre-Pearl Jam days, but I'm specifically referring to the fact that the band recorded a version when they were making "Vs." that got reworked for "Vitalogy.") I think the same was true of "Brain Of J."-- originally recorded for "No Code," then re-worked for "Yield."
Better Man is not even a Pearl Jam song.. it was written with Bad Radio and originally released with the band. It was rearranged for Vs. and then held til Vitalogy.. geeeeez haha
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I just looped it 4X in a row and it sounds very Long Roadish to me. Like the nursat sessions. Spirtitual and very mesmorizing....kind of puts you at ease,,,,,after smoking some kush
It's growing on me now. It's definitely not up to all of the "Oh my god it's the best song I've ever heard" posts on here but it is very, very good.
I think the reason that it never surfaced on a PJ album is that it doesn't actually fit with the moods of Riot Act, Pearl Jam or Backspacer. It would sound out of of place on all of those albums. I think it sounds much more like an Into The Wild recording than a Pearl Jam one.
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How is this thread still around? There were several this morning that all got deleted.
Now that I've heard it though, I hope it's not on the EP that Mike talked about because I want more new songs, now that I've got this one. This band is like a drug.
If it is newer it could possibly be a demo. Mike and Jeff both said in seperate interviews recently that they recorded a bunch of demos in the Spring. This would also explain why management would be passing it around to one another now.
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Aren't there examples of Pearl Jam doing this? Wasn't "Better Man" originally slated for "Vs.," and then re-recorded in the form that ended up on "Vitalogy"? (Yes, I know "Better Man" dates back to pre-Pearl Jam days, but I'm specifically referring to the fact that the band recorded a version when they were making "Vs." that got reworked for "Vitalogy.") I think the same was true of "Brain Of J."-- originally recorded for "No Code," then re-worked for "Yield."
I see a few things wrong with your sentence
Good times either way
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I don't know many PJ examples. I understand Severed Hand was written during the 2000 tour and then put on the shelves. Didn't make it onto Riot Act but did make it onto Self Titled. This new one may have been just that.
On another note, any opportunity I get to throw in a Zeppelin fact or analogy, I can't help myself. I still have goosebumps from when Plant joined PJ on stage in the HOB Chicago and did Fool in the Rain and Thank You, plus others. Oops, there I go again.
After having this new song on repeat for a while, I love it. Reminds me a lot of Long Road or Hard to Imagine. I'm not a voice expert but I think someone other than Ed is backing vocals in that la-la-la part. Sounds like Jeff. Can anybody put on headphones and verify?
1) The song is a straight up B-side from Riot Act. And there's no real reason why it leaked.
2) Better Days was written during Riot Act, but held over and re-recorded for Avocado (to explain the livelier vocals) and this is an Avocado B-Side.
3) Better Days was written during Riot Act, but held over and re-recorded for Backspacer and now this is part of the EP Mike spoke about last year.
I'm gonna pick No.3 . It must be that tiny icing of the cake what Mike had been speaking about last year, EP a coming!
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here's my take on it that i posted last night with the original post that was deleted.
our's are very similar, i think maybe 2 or 3 differences. i might like yours more though.
the more listens, the more i like it even more!
Better Days - eV
i feel part of the universe
opened up to meet me
my emotion so submerged
broken down to kneel in
once listening
voices they care
we had to somehow to greet myself, read myself
heard vibrations within myselves, in myselves, singing...
mhahhh ahaa ahhh ahaa
my love is safe for the universe
see me now i'm bursting
on one planet, so many turns
different worlds, singing...
mhahhh ahaa ahhh ahaa
fill my heart with discipline
put there for the teaching
in my head see clouds of stairs
help me as i'm reaching...
the future's paved
with better daaaaaaaayeeeeyays,
eeeeee... eeeeee....
not running
from something
i'm running
towards the day, wide a-wake
a whipser
once quiet
now arising
to a scream, arrive in me
i'm falling,
free falling,
words calling, me(eeee)....
up off... my knees.
oh i'm soaring,
yea i am darlin,
never be the world,
that i can need, stay and be free
our future's
paved with,
better days...
a beacon on dry land
eyes above the horizon
in the dark before the dawn..."
"i am a donut"
Better Man is not even a Pearl Jam song.. it was written with Bad Radio and originally released with the band. It was rearranged for Vs. and then held til Vitalogy.. geeeeez haha
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I think the reason that it never surfaced on a PJ album is that it doesn't actually fit with the moods of Riot Act, Pearl Jam or Backspacer. It would sound out of of place on all of those albums. I think it sounds much more like an Into The Wild recording than a Pearl Jam one.
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Now that I've heard it though, I hope it's not on the EP that Mike talked about because I want more new songs, now that I've got this one. This band is like a drug.
It's got a serious Peter Gabriel vibe to it, haha - I like the buildup, the drums...
I wouldn't seeing this on an album at all. I like this as much, if not more, than some of the stuff on Backspacer.
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