Unreleased Pearl Jam Song "Better Days" Leaks

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  • ZiggyStarZiggyStar Posts: 14,328
    I can't believe so many people like this song! :?
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  • SoonForgotten2SoonForgotten2 Posts: 2,245
    ZiggyStar wrote:
    I can't believe so many people like this song! :?

    I can't believe so many people don't.

    There's no accounting for taste.
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  • pdalowskypdalowsky Posts: 15,043
    this seemingly isnt a taboo subject

    intentional leak?
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,080
    I can't believe so many people like this song!

    I don't understand it either... to me it's like a bland ITW song... doesn't really hook me, and sort of cheesy lyrics. Not a bad song, but forgettable.
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  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Posts: 9,894
    pdalowsky wrote:
    this seemingly isnt a taboo subject

    intentional leak?

    I am curious about this as well. Maybe there is something in the works with it.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • just davejust dave Posts: 260
    makes me wonder what other gems they have in their vault. like what else needs to be re-recorded to be good
  • ZiggyStarZiggyStar Posts: 14,328
    wolkenlos wrote:
    Oh my god.
    I have to post here and receive all the hate from you. But. I don't think this song is so special in any way :? I can't be the only one thinking that?

    Normally I can't decide which of PJs songs are my favorite because they are all so amazing, but this song? :roll: No. :D
    Maybe it's good for going to sleep to :D

    No, you're not the only one....
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  • 24veddie24veddie Posts: 267
    where do i hear this song?
  • Hugo ReyesHugo Reyes Posts: 244
    pdalowsky wrote:
    this seemingly isnt a taboo subject

    intentional leak?



    Of course it is! Look at all the attention it's getting amongst us...and after the tour, it's a nice little spike in attention for PJ. Completely agree it's intentional. Nothing wrong with that at all...keep "leaking" songs for us.
  • joely_91joely_91 Posts: 795
    wolfman wrote:
    ZiggyStar wrote:
    wolkenlos wrote:
    Oh my god.
    I have to post here and receive all the hate from you. But. I don't think this song is so special in any way :? I can't be the only one thinking that?

    Normally I can't decide which of PJs songs are my favorite because they are all so amazing, but this song? :roll: No. :D
    Maybe it's good for going to sleep to :D

    No, you're not the only one....

    I'm with you two on this one, utter shite instantly forgettable, like another poster said the older crowd might be into more.

    I quite like the song and i wouldnt class myself in the "older crowd" but to each their own as this man said...

    fullsize2.jpg

    "Haters wanna hate,
    Lovers wanna love,
    I don't even want
    None of the above.
    I want to......."

    You can finish the rest :lol:
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,763
    nice song
    nice to hear something new
    makes me want to eat peyote and hide in a tent :lol:


    but ed, please put down the mando, the acoustic, the accordian, and pick up that beautiful old telecaster and write some rock and roll songs please. Its ok, take two years if you need to. I will still be here.
  • Get_Right wrote:
    nice song
    nice to hear something new
    makes me want to eat peyote and hide in a tent :lol:


    but ed, please put down the mando, the acoustic, the accordian, and pick up that beautiful old telecaster and write some rock and roll songs please. Its ok, take two years if you need to. I will still be here.


    Now yer talken!
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  • JoJo Posts: 2,098
    Hugo Reyes wrote:
    pdalowsky wrote:
    this seemingly isnt a taboo subject

    intentional leak?



    Of course it is! Look at all the attention it's getting amongst us...and after the tour, it's a nice little spike in attention for PJ. Completely agree it's intentional. Nothing wrong with that at all...keep "leaking" songs for us.

    PJ are just trying to keep you hungry mob distracted whilst organising thier 20th at Yallingup.
  • T-Bone 82T-Bone 82 Posts: 410
    I just heard this song this morning. Wow. I really like it. The organ at the beginning reminds me of Long Road. I love the acoustic guitar solo. Flamenco-esque! I also love the layered vocals. Very cool.
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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Posts: 10,217
    pdalowsky wrote:
    this seemingly isnt a taboo subject

    intentional leak?

    Just what I was thinking. Guess they're keeping us on our toes around here.
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  • jambayleafjambayleaf Posts: 646
    ZiggyStar wrote:
    I can't believe so many people like this song! :?

    Ziggy, if there was one Ed grunt in it, you would think it's the next Release. It's the only thing missing, am I right?
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  • wolfamongwolveswolfamongwolves Posts: 2,414
    I'd be thinking it's Into the Wild/Backspacer era.

    Cos that sounds like a mandolin to me...
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  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Posts: 9,894
    Watch posting links- Kat was editing them out yesterday
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  • wolfamongwolveswolfamongwolves Posts: 2,414
    bustout wrote:
    the song has a bit of Binaural feel to it ....

    kind of like In My Tree met something on Touring Band 2000 .... Foldback maybe ... met Love Boat Captain

    maybe not written in 2000, but sounds like the roots of this song go back to 2000

    some of the vocals sound like Into the Wild and/or Binaural ...


    Fairly sure that's a mandolin, which woud put it around Into the Wild or Backspacer
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    12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
  • DH62179DH62179 Posts: 312
    So Pearl Jam's manager 'leaks' the song but we can't say where you can listen to it at? :?
  • am195090am195090 Posts: 7
    Yes, most definitely a mandolin. I posted this back around page 12 or so, but people keep insisting on calling it a ukelele or spanish guitar. It is not. So I'd have to agree, at least that part of the recording came into being in the into the wild era going forward. Is it so crazy to think Eddie is playing the solo there, by the way? Interesting to see him take the lead for a change of pace. And actually, that would fit in to the spanish tinge they may hear in the solo. If you remember back around 2000, he used to begin Betterman with Romanza, a little classical guitar piece. So it could stand to reason that he still may have carried that over to the mandolin solo here. Then again, mandolin solos just sound like that naturally since you can easily reach those notes on a much smaller fretboard.
  • veddermanvedderman Posts: 801
    I'd be thinking it's Into the Wild/Backspacer era.

    Cos that sounds like a mandolin to me...

    It's actually a Riot Act outtake. Check it out:

    http://www.pearljamonline.it/outtakes.htm#riotact
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  • veddermanvedderman Posts: 801
    It's a Riot Act outtake. Check it out:

    http://www.pearljamonline.it/outtakes.htm#riotact
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  • SoonForgotten2SoonForgotten2 Posts: 2,245
    vedderman wrote:
    I'd be thinking it's Into the Wild/Backspacer era.

    Cos that sounds like a mandolin to me...

    It's actually a Riot Act outtake. Check it out:

    http://www.pearljamonline.it/outtakes.htm#riotact

    That doesn't confirm anything. It could be re-worked/rerecorded or it could be a coincidence. Perhaps working from similar lyrics or chord progression. I would highly doubt this is the same song.
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  • mavimavi Posts: 941
    am195090 wrote:
    Everyone keeps referring to the "guitar" solo. I don't see how I'm the only one to realize this, but it is definitely a mandolin there.

    Yes. I agree.
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,319
    rolenrock wrote:
    Aren't there examples of Pearl Jam doing this? Wasn't "Better Man" originally slated for "Vs.," and then re-recorded in the form that ended up on "Vitalogy"? (Yes, I know "Better Man" dates back to pre-Pearl Jam days, but I'm specifically referring to the fact that the band recorded a version when they were making "Vs." that got reworked for "Vitalogy.") I think the same was true of "Brain Of J."-- originally recorded for "No Code," then re-worked for "Yield."

    Better Man is not even a Pearl Jam song.. it was written with Bad Radio and originally released with the band. It was rearranged for Vs. and then held til Vitalogy.. geeeeez haha

    That's why I said, "Yes, I know 'Better Man' dates back to pre-Pearl Jam days."
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  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    I finally got to hear this on my home stereo for the first time last night and couldn't believe how great the song sounded on a real stereo with good speakers...It was a good song already on bad speakers...but obviously alot easier to pickup the nuances on a real stereo as opposed to the embarassingly awful piece of dog shit speakers I have at work.

    Anyways...It's obviously a Mandolin...painfully obvious in fact.

    As for Eddie playing the solo...Well...I've never really heard him do that before.
    So I really don't have much reference as to the faculty of his guitar soloing. But then again...When you have someone like Mike in Pearl Jam...I guess it's obvious for fans to not have many opportunities of watching Eddie Vedder rip out a blistering guitar solo.

    I think I've only ever heard him tackle a solo twice...No...three times.

    1) "Society" solo on his "Into The Wild" tour
    2) C-Average on "Driven To Tears"
    3) The Mike Watt Tour..."Against The 70's"???

    None of which resemble or stylistically reference the solo in "Better Days"...So it's understanable to immediately assume this is someone taking the lead other than Ed.

    Pretty cool if it is Eddie. Jack of all trades that one :)

    Mandolin
    Uke
    Accordian
    Banjo
    Guitar
    Harmonica
    Typewriter
  • inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    Ed plays the solo in wishlist.
    Here's a new demo called "in the fire":

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  • WWSWWS Ontario Posts: 459
    Gonzo1977 wrote:

    As for Eddie playing the solo...Well...I've never really heard him do that before.
    So I really don't have much reference as to the faculty of his guitar soloing. But then again...When you have someone like Mike in Pearl Jam...I guess it's obvious for fans to not have many opportunities of watching Eddie Vedder rip out a blistering guitar solo.

    .

    For Real??

    The entire Eddie solo tour
    Just Breath
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    Betterman
    Wishlist
    Soon Forget
    Speed of sound

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  • inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    dmm121182 wrote:
    "Better Days"
    Vedder / Vedder

    I feel part of the universe opened up to meet me.
    My emotion so submerged, broken down to kneeling
    once listening
    voices they came

    Had to somehow read myself
    read myself
    heard vibration within my cells
    in my cells

    Singing ah ah ah ah ah ah

    My love is safe for the universe
    See me now I'm bursting
    On one planet so many turns
    different worlds

    singing ah ah ah ah ah ah

    From my heart with discipline
    Put there for the teaching
    In my head see clouds of stairs
    Help me as I'm reaching
    The future's paved with better days

    I'm running from something
    I'm running towards the day
    wide awake

    A whisper once quiet
    Now rising to a scream
    I am me.

    I'm falling free fallin
    World's calling me
    Above my needs

    Oh I'm soaring
    Yeah and darlin', you'll be the one that I can need,
    Still, be free

    Our futures paved with better days


    By the way, yes, it's a Riot Act recording session outtake.

    Only thing I'd change is the following:

    I feel part of the universe opened up to meet me.
    My emotion so submerged, broken down to kneeling
    once listening
    voices they came

    Had to somehow greet myself
    read myself
    heard vibration within my cells
    in my cells

    Singing ah ah ah ah ah ah

    My love is safe for the universe
    See me now I'm bursting
    On one planet so many turns
    different worlds

    singing ah ah ah ah ah ah

    From my heart with discipline
    Put there for the teaching
    In my head see clouds of stairs
    Help me as I'm reaching
    The future's paved with better days

    I'm running from something
    I'm running towards the day
    wide awake

    A whisper once quiet
    Now rising to a scream
    I am me.

    I'm falling free fallin
    World's calling me
    Above my needs

    Oh I'm soaring
    Yeah and darlin', you'll be the one that I can need,(is this... up off my knees?)
    Still, be free

    Our futures paved with better days
    Here's a new demo called "in the fire":

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