Jesus Was An Arab

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

arent arabs, persians, etc considered white anyway?

BinauralJam

arq wrote:

KO282453 wrote:

catefrances wrote:

oh we were all black once upon a time.

Not my WHITE ASS

the only part that was white the rest was black!!!

Your projecting, icky thoughts!!! Alright enough fun for tonight, Good Night All, i'm off to pray to my rainbow colored Jesus for my soul to keep.

catefrances

MrSmith wrote:

arent arabs, persians, etc considered white anyway?

yous one of them communists aint ya??

Byrnzie

MrSmith wrote:

its common knowledge that Jesus would have looked middleeastern, even the poor dumb hick christians you hate so much know this.

Yeah, sure they do. Which is why every church in America has a picture showing him with European features.

MrSmith wrote:

if you really have visited the southern or midwestern states at any time since 1968 (and i have my doubts you have), you would see how utterly full of shit you are. but you're probably one of those "travellers" who visits countries to see what you expect to see, not what is.

I'd take a breath there pal. Sounds like you're running your mouth off faster than your brain can think.

I've been in the south more then once. Not that that has anything to do with it. Are you a church going southern Christian? You seem a little uptight.

You think 1968 was some kind of watershed year when everything changed in Mid Western America?

Byrnzie

MrSmith wrote:

arent arabs, persians, etc considered white anyway?

No, they're not. But I'm sure you'll now try and pretend that those good, progressive thinking Christians see them that way.

Byrnzie

dpmay wrote:

this thread is clearly just an attempt to rile up some perceived stereotypical christians and southeners. not all southerners are racist, and neither are all christians.

I think the issue of religion and race is an interesting one. Clearly you don't agree.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_of_Jesus

'In the majority of Western art, narrative and cinema depicting Jesus, he is portrayed with brown hair and brown eyes, having a short beard and white skin. However, some artists, including notably Dürer, have also depicted him as blond and/or blue-eyed. This is also the case in several films, including Jesus of Nazareth (1977) in which he has dark brown hair but pale blue eyes.

Because of the commonness of this depiction, it is often confused with historical fact. It has dispersed so widely that many cultures have at least to some extent assimilated the image of a white Jesus. Western Christians spread images of a European Jesus through their encounters with peoples of Africa, the Americas, Australia and parts of Asia (often through colonization), from the 16th to the 20th century. Many nonwhite regions and ethnicities have depicted Jesus in this way, sometimes routinely, though sometimes with partial adaptations to the local setting, including dress. Moreover, in addition to images, the fact that Christianity was predominantly introduced to them by white individuals makes the racial connection even more complex. Nonetheless, portrayal of Jesus with local features is also common, especially in areas where Christianity has been prominent for a longer period of history.

Additionally, in some cultures nonwhite depictions of Jesus are actually criticized or dismissed outright, with a few considering it blasphemous to portray Jesus as being of another ethnicity. Ever since the Nazi claim that Jesus was Nordic, Christian white supremacists have commonly equated Christian identity with white racial separatism, sometimes using exegesis of Biblical passages to argue their position.'

Shawshank

I have no doubt He probably looked a lot like a younger version of Osama Bin Laden. That really has no bearing for me personally. Unfortunately, the vast majority of Christians are some of the most vile human beings on Earth. They alone give Christianity a bad name. It doesn't change my belief in Jesus Christ though, and I really don't care if that makes me look like a fool. I'm not here to try and impress anyone. If so called Christians actually lived by the words attributed to Jesus, this entire planet would be a much better place.

badbrains

This is a theory I've been thinking about for some time. What if Different aliens came down on different times and each brought a different message. One brought with him Christianity, one brought Islam and so so so. Idk, it's deeper then that but I really dnt want to get to deep into it......oh and Jesus was indeed a camel jockey. As some of my friends on planet earth like to call middle easterners.......well that and terrorists.....

Byrnzie

Shawshank wrote:

If so called Christians actually lived by the words attributed to Jesus, this entire planet would be a much better place.

True. I was just thinking the other day about this. I wonder how many so-called Christians actually follow the example of Jesus? Most Christians, as far as I can see, live in big houses, vote Republican, and are pro-war. A generalization I know, but regardless, I don't see any so-called Christians in the West preaching austerity and charity. It's just a money-spinner.

As Nietzsche pointed out: 'There was only one Christian, and he died on the cross'.

Byrnzie

badbrains wrote:

Jesus was indeed a camel jockey. As some of my friends on planet earth like to call middle easterners.......well that and terrorists.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdkqu8VKvCA

Jesus Was A Terrorist - Jello Biafra with No Means No

Jesus was a terrorist
Enemy of the state
That's what the Romans labeled him
So he was put to death

He died for his beliefs
What's changed today?

Today bible-thumping cannibals
Reap money from his name
Buy cable networks & power
With old ladies' checks

If Jesus saw Pat Robertson
What do you think he'd say?

Tax-free they re-write our laws
And sick 'em on you
Women don't control their bodies
TV preachers do

Censor everything from bathing suits
To science books
From the schoolroom to the bedroom
They want our thoughts - or else

They treat us like the Romans
Used to treat the Christians
Even some churchgoing folks are scared

Modern catacombs of fear
Built with money, power and threats
Rock'n'roll is labeled porn
Sell a record, you're under arrest

Instead of fighting AIDS
They try to stop us having sex
They brag that they won't quit
Til they take dominion over our lives

Is freedom of speech such a terrorist act
Is spiritual peace such a satanic threat
Believe what you want
But we'll fight to keep
Out heads from being cemented in your sand.

Byrnzie

CJMST3K wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

Jesus Was An Arab

Shout that out in certain parts of Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan.

Let us know how that works out for you.

O.k, I'll do that the next time I pop over there for a cold beer and a...wait a minute? You can't buy beer in Saudi. Fuck it, I'm not going.

gimmesometruth27

i doubt that the jesus i was taught about would be in favor of what just happened with isreal attacking an aid ship...but hey, jesus was never wrong, so maybe i should shut the fuck up right?

WindNoSail

If Jesus is mythological, at least get the story right...Jew.

Pepe Silvia

WindNoSail wrote:

If Jesus is mythological, at least get the story right...Jew.

arabs can be jews...

dpmay

Byrnzie wrote:

dpmay wrote:

yeah, this. this thread is clearly just an attempt to rile up some perceived stereotypical christians and southeners. not all southerners are racist, and neither are all christians.

True. I regard 99% of so-called Christians as a bit of a joke.

By the way, why pretend that the number of Christians in America isn't huge, and that they don't carry considerable influence in the political system over there, and consequently in U.S foreign affairs? I view them as not just idiots, but as very dangerous idiots.

look, i never said or implied that there are not a lot of christians in the US, nor that they are not influential. in fact, i would even agree with you that the impact of the way some people interpret christianity has negatively influenced US foreign affairs. (and ohbytheway, i definitely do think race and religion is an interesting topic; i'm in here aren't i?)

my problem is with claims like these: "99% of christianity is a joke." what, have you had in-depth conversations with 1000 christians and thought only ten of them had anything good to say? or are you just generalizing based on a few outliers, with whom i (as a christian) wouldn't agree with either?

and calling christians in america idiots is total bullshit. some may do and/or believe stuff you (and i) don't like, but the extreme generalization is completely unfair. it makes it seem like you are not actually interested in an actual discussion here.

WindNoSail

Pepe Silvia wrote:

WindNoSail wrote:

If Jesus is mythological, at least get the story right...Jew.

arabs can be jews...

I think this point is worth considering....is an Arab defined by race or religion or geography. Jew is definately an Ethnic group, and religion is central to the Ethnic group. But you are quite right, Arabs can be Jews. I just don't think Jews consider themselves Arabs. We need an Anthropologist.

Byrnzie

WindNoSail wrote:

Jew is definately an Ethnic group

No it isn't. Anyone can become a Jew if they convert to Judaism.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/aug/07/israel1

badbrains

If Jesus saw Pat Robertson
What do you think he'd say?

He'd say your in the wrong place pat. You went up instead of down. Here comes the elevator now. Say hello to Lucifer for me ok?

Byrnzie

dpmay wrote:

my problem is with claims like these: "99% of christianity is a joke."

I base that assertion on the fact that 99% of so-called Christians don't live according to the teachings of Christ in any way whatsoever.


How many Americans live their lives according to the example set by Jesus? Is it higher than 1%? I doubt it. I think I was being kind by stating 99%. I should have said 99.9%.

WindNoSail

Byrnzie wrote:

WindNoSail wrote:

Jew is definately an Ethnic group

No it isn't. Anyone can become a Jew if they convert to Judaism.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/aug/07/israel1

Did you just tell me "No"? Your so "right" minded. :?

Are Irish an ethnic group? What about Italians? Doesn't ethnicity have something to do with being born among a group or persons, bloodline, and in this case born Jewish? And yes you can convert to Judaism, thats a fact ....but Jews consider themselves born Jews. You are not born Catholic or Christian, because if you know anything about Christianity its the choice to believe that allows you to be called by the name. Its not an entitlement you are born with. I don't care if you think its full of crap or not.

The Jewish nation of Israel, is a nation, has been for quite sometime and well before 1948. Just saying. I am just going on history here. Not saying there aren't some serious gray areas in this conversation (thats history for you), but what nation or ethnic group doesn't have that.

It is interesting that you can convert to Judaism, I am not sure how they handle that since I have never talked to a Rabbi...do they consider you grafted into the nation or the ethnicity of Jewishness when you convert?

So Jesus was a Jew...and an Arab...and a Christian.