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Jesus Was An Arab

ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
edited June 2010 in A Moving Train
..just in case any right-wing, Republican voting, Anti-Arab Christians out there have forgotten.


Talk amongst yourselves...
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Who?
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    KO282453 wrote:
    Who?

    The mythological figure of Jesus. He didn't actually exist, but for arguments sake, if he did, then he was an Arab. I just get the impression that many middle American, church going patriots would rather forget this fact, and instead prefer to imagine him as one of their own:

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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    oh ya, i reconize him now, that's the drummer from System of a Down, he's pretty good. but you know underrated because, well he's an arab.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    KO282453 wrote:
    oh ya, i recognize him now, that's the drummer from System of a Down, he's pretty good. but you know underrated because, well he's an arab.

    If Jesus was a drummer then Keith Moon must be God. :think:
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Nicely played :mrgreen:
  • arqarq Posts: 8,049
    What!?! Jesus didn't exist!?! No way!!!

    He exist in the hearts of the children :D next to the right hand of Keith moon and to the left hand of System of a down drummer! and he's not arab he is from Utah!
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
    Neil deGrasse Tyson

    Why not (V) (°,,,,°) (V) ?
  • michelleelisemichelleelise Posts: 346
    I beg to differ. About his existence, that is.

    I've studied a bit ancient history, and I think it's highly likely he did exist and was probably a pretty great guy :)

    However, his story was obviously co-opted, edited and embellished (an understatement) by the church for their own purposes. But there's quite a lot of historical writing which refers to him so I really don't believe they completely invented him, they just turned a man into a myth.
  • michelleelisemichelleelise Posts: 346
    I think it's pretty fascinating how easily some people recognize the mythology in other religions, but not in their own. American Christians with no knowledge of ancient history are really some of the most annoying people to talk to :) They easily recognize the mythology of the Greeks and Egyptians and Hindus, but insist that the Judeo-Christianity mythology is the real thing.

    Back then it was very common for people to believe that great men (and bad men, for that matter), as well as kings and queens were part-God. Mysticism colored everything and these stories were passed along orally and embellished over time. There's so many examples besides Jesus. Gilgamesh is another that persisted in almost the same geographic area (Mesopotamia and Sumeria) for thousands of years.

    The persistence and spread of the Jesus myth and creation myths of that area vs. all others speaks to the organizational, political and educational power of the church in ancient times. History is written by the victors...
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    michelle822 wrote:

    I've studied a bit ancient history, and I think it's highly likely he did exist and was probably a pretty great guy :).

    I'm with you (well... up until the 'and was probably a pretty great guy'!). A man with the name Jesus (or whatever his name was in his language) most probably did exist. Son of god, saviour of man? Certainly not. Current days in London, he may be the guy on his soap box in Speakers Corner, possibly creating disruption and being arrested. Maybe he was even a bit of an anarchist or revolutionary! It is also very likely that this 'Jesus' is not even one person but a myth put together based on several people/events (a bit like King Arthur - though I would really, really like for King Arthur to have been a real person!).
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    I'm pretty sure Jesus was born in the Hamptons so he was certainly white except during the summer sailing season when he received a nice seasonal tan.
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Jesus Was An Arab


    Shout that out in certain parts of Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan.

    Let us know how that works out for you.
    ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you. :)
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Byrnzie wrote:
    ..just in case any right-wing, Republican voting, Anti-Arab Christians out there have forgotten.


    Talk amongst yourselves...

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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    Jesus seems to me that was the 1st and last communist ever.
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • michelleelisemichelleelise Posts: 346
    redrock wrote:

    I'm with you (well... up until the 'and was probably a pretty great guy'!). A man with the name Jesus (or whatever his name was in his language) most probably did exist. Son of god, saviour of man? Certainly not. Current days in London, he may be the guy on his soap box in Speakers Corner, possibly creating disruption and being arrested. Maybe he was even a bit of an anarchist or revolutionary! It is also very likely that this 'Jesus' is not even one person but a myth put together based on several people/events (a bit like King Arthur - though I would really, really like for King Arthur to have been a real person!).

    Well, I get hopeless crushes on anarchist and revolutionaries, so that'd be a "great guy" in my book ;)
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Jesus Was An Arab


    Shout that out in certain parts of Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan.

    Let us know how that works out for you.

    You do know that Muslims believe Jesus existed and revere him as a messenger just not as the son of God ? Guessing not from ur statement.
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Jesus was a Black dude
    a very special man
    Jesus was a Black dude
    not some white guy w/ a tan
    Jesus was a black dude
    as everybody knows
    Jesus uh huh, called everybody Bro!!!


    Cute little song from a very bad c-movie comedy from the 80's

    "A man called Sarge"
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    flywallyfly wrote:
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Jesus Was An Arab


    Shout that out in certain parts of Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan.

    Let us know how that works out for you.

    You do know that Muslims believe Jesus existed and revere him as a messenger just not as the son of God ? Guessing not from ur statement.


    :roll:
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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    are you high???

    jesus was clearly of latin decent and nobody fucks with him

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IONyLZn0pLI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsEa_M7MqYE
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    CJMST3K wrote:
    flywallyfly wrote:
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Jesus Was An Arab


    Shout that out in certain parts of Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan.

    Let us know how that works out for you.

    You do know that Muslims believe Jesus existed and revere him as a messenger just not as the son of God ? Guessing not from ur statement.


    :roll:[/quote]

    I was correct ! :shock: :roll:
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    flywallyfly wrote:
    I was correct ! :shock: :roll:

    Yup, continue to create any story you want. :roll:
    ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you. :)
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    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    redrock wrote:
    michelle822 wrote:

    I've studied a bit ancient history, and I think it's highly likely he did exist and was probably a pretty great guy :).

    I'm with you (well... up until the 'and was probably a pretty great guy'!). A man with the name Jesus (or whatever his name was in his language) most probably did exist. Son of god, saviour of man? Certainly not. Current days in London, he may be the guy on his soap box in Speakers Corner, possibly creating disruption and being arrested. Maybe he was even a bit of an anarchist or revolutionary! It is also very likely that this 'Jesus' is not even one person but a myth put together based on several people/events (a bit like King Arthur - though I would really, really like for King Arthur to have been a real person!).



    aren't we all supposed to be children of god, though? doesn't christianity teach that god is our father and who creates us? so wouldn't that make us the son or daughter of god, too?

    Philippians 2:5-6

    5Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    are you high???

    jesus was clearly of latin decent and nobody fucks with him

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IONyLZn0pLI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsEa_M7MqYE

    shut the fuck up pepe! ;)
  • cajunkiwicajunkiwi Posts: 984
    He was also a raging liberal ;)
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    norm wrote:
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    are you high???

    jesus was clearly of latin decent and nobody fucks with him

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IONyLZn0pLI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsEa_M7MqYE

    shut the fuck up pepe! ;)


    i am the warlus
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    CJMST3K wrote:
    flywallyfly wrote:
    I was correct ! :shock: :roll:

    Yup, continue to create any story you want. :roll:

    Why would you think shouting Jesus was an Arab in Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan would be a problem then?

    IMO you would be in a helluva lot more danger shouting that in certain areas of the United States.
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    flywallyfly wrote:
    CJMST3K wrote:
    flywallyfly wrote:
    I was correct ! :shock: :roll:

    Yup, continue to create any story you want. :roll:

    Why would you think shouting Jesus was an Arab in Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan would be a problem then?

    IMO you would be in a helluva lot more danger shouting that in certain areas of the United States.


    it's true, muslims believe jesus was a prophet of god, just not god sent to earth or the direct son of god
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    i think jesus was a half alien and mary was artifically inceminadated by an alien race trying to help us change our ways, but in the end did more damage then good. but i know this isn't a popular theory.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    Jesus was Persian, who are white guys. just watch Prince of Persia. that will show ya!
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    MrSmith wrote:
    Jesus was Persian, who are white guys. just watch Prince of Persia. that will show ya!

    LOL, usually with a British accent to boot ! Brokeback Persia !
  • mysticweedmysticweed Posts: 3,710
    to quote Stephen Stills "Jesus Christ was the first non-violent revolutionary". Jesus was born a Jew, although I'm not sure he was born in Arabia. If most Christians followed the teachings of Jesus: blessed are the peace makers, turn the other cheek, blessed are the meek, etc, they would be better human beings. But according to the christians I know you must believe in the virgin birth and resurrection to be saved and go to heaven. Accordingly, to not believe is a sure fire (pun intended) ticket to hell.
    afw
    peace
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

    "what a long, strange trip it's been"
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