Jesus Was An Arab

Byrnzie

michelle822 wrote:

I was going to post about why Jesus would not have earned any mention in the limited amount of historical documents from the time (due to his unremarkable life - the legend having been created decades and centuries later) and about why the Gospel of Mark and Paul's epistles can be considered reliable transcriptions of the oral storytelling of their time. But it looks like this thread wasn't about any of that. I'm usually better at avoiding the blatantly anti-Zionist discussions on this board...

You're right about one thing: It's a legend. That's all.

And you think you can explain away the fact that there is no mention of him in any of the histories of the period by saying he led an 'unremarkable life'? Though I suppose someone who claims to be the Son of God and who attracts hundreds of followers, performs miracles, threatens the established order, and is publicly crucified by the authorities wouldn't attract any attention.

Byrnzie

Godfather. wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

..just in case any right-wing, Republican voting, Anti-Arab Christians out there have forgotten.


Talk amongst yourselves...

are you looking for argument ? get a grip man, this kin d of crap just tells me more about you than I really need to know. believe as you will it's your soul.

Godfather.

Here's some news for ya; Jesus was not fair-skinned, blue eyed, and English speaking. I just think it's strange that so many Americans have adopted Jesus as one of their own. How come they don't adopt Islam or Buddhism instead? I believe Christianity is, and always was, a completely alien religion to people in the West - and in the year 2010 it's not just alien, but a failed religion; it's obsolete - way past it's sell by date. Like Communism, it's intentions may have been pure, but it's been perverted and deformed to the point where it no longer has any value. I think it should be consigned to the dust-bin of history.

And why do churches in the Western world still portray him as a Westerner? He wasn't. Even if we believe the fantasy bible version then Jesus would still have been dark skinned, brown eyed, and spoken Aramaic - a completely foreign language.

He would have looked nothing like this:



Actually, he would have looked more like this:



And if you don't think that religion and racism have any relation then I suggest you do your homework.

Byrnzie

dpmay wrote:

yeah, this. this thread is clearly just an attempt to rile up some perceived stereotypical christians and southeners. not all southerners are racist, and neither are all christians.

True. I regard 99% of so-called Christians as a bit of a joke.

By the way, why pretend that the number of Christians in America isn't huge, and that they don't carry considerable influence in the political system over there, and consequently in U.S foreign affairs? I view them as not just idiots, but as very dangerous idiots.

arq

Byrnzie wrote:

And you think you can explain away the fact that there is no mention of him in any of the histories of the period by saying he led an 'unremarkable life'? Though I suppose someone who claims to be the Son of God and who attracts hundreds of followers, performs miracles, threatens the established order, and is publicly crucified by the authorities wouldn't attract any attention.

+1

plus all the historical references (Josephus, Tacitus, Suetonius,Thallus) has been shown to be either inserted or amended by later Christians.

Byrnzie

arq wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

And you think you can explain away the fact that there is no mention of him in any of the histories of the period by saying he led an 'unremarkable life'? Though I suppose someone who claims to be the Son of God and who attracts hundreds of followers, performs miracles, threatens the established order, and is publicly crucified by the authorities wouldn't attract any attention.

+1

plus all the historical references (Josephus, Tacitus, Suetonius,Thallus) have been shown to be either inserted or amended by later Christians.

True. It's inconceivable that a character of his importance would receive absolutely no mention in any historical records of the time, including Josephus' twenty-one volume 'Antiquities of the Jews'.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

Byrnzie wrote:

MrSmith wrote:

i'll read the rest later, but i'm living in Mississippi right now and just yesterday i said hello to my black next door neighbor, had dinner with my mexican date, and then smoked some weed at my middle-eastern friend's house, and not once did i encounter a lynching or race riot. no one even threw a brick at us! i thought for sure it would happen when that white guy brought that black girl to the bar all the whities frequent but nothing! i was very dissappointed.

i'm pretty horrified about what people think of the south. my uncle works in Oman, and could easily pass as one of their own, and the first thing people there said when he got there was "oh i saw MIssissippi Burning, so you dont like black people!" fucking idiots.

I don't understand what any of this has to do with what I posted.

Anyway, how many white Christian Mid-west Americans support the war in the Middle East? Is it less than 90%? Do you think Arabs are viewed favourably by most people in America?

did you forget you typed this ignorant post?

Byrnzie wrote:

Either way, he probably looked more like Osama Bin Laden than Robert Powell. In fact, if he walked into a church today in Mississipi or Arkansas he'd probably be shot or lynched

and yeah i'd say it less than 90%. much less. as with every other issue in the US, its probably somewhere around 60-40, give or take. 70 at best. For Iraq i mean. Afghanistan would be higher, but its higher from New York to LA.


and do you really think you are exposing some horrible lie that most of the world never knew? its common knowledge that Jesus would have looked middleeastern, even the poor dumb hick christians you hate so much know this. you're not exactly dropping a bombshell on anyone. as if it even matters.

if you really have visited the southern or midwestern states at any time since 1968 (and i have my doubts you have), you would see how utterly full of shit you are. but you're probably one of those "travellers" who visits countries to see what you expect to see, not what is.

Godfather.

it's all on you Byrnzie,as I said believe as you will it's your soul.
it's just not worth the argument.

Godfather.

catefrances

so if God brought forth the flood cause man had been so wicked or whatever, how come with all man has done since, has God not felt the need to wash us all away again? :think:

arq

catefrances wrote:

so if God brought the flood cause man had been so wicked or whatever, how come with all man has done since, has God not felt the need to wash us all away again? :think:

The bible said that god promised that he's not going to do that again (the flood).

catefrances

arq wrote:

catefrances wrote:

so if God brought the flood cause man had been so wicked or whatever, how come with all man has done since, has God not felt the need to wash us all away again? :think:

The bible said that god promised that he's not going to do that again (the flood).

hmm. quite convenient in these times of rational thought.

Godfather.

catefrances wrote:

arq wrote:

catefrances wrote:

so if God brought the flood cause man had been so wicked or whatever, how come with all man has done since, has God not felt the need to wash us all away again? :think:

The bible said that god promised that he's not going to do that again (the flood).

hmm. quite convenient in these times of rational thought.

is it worth the gamble cate ?

Godfather.

arq

catefrances wrote:

hmm. quite convenient in these times of rational thought.

Oh my friend how I wish these were times of rational thought, people still believe weird things and what is worst they're willing to kill and die for for those bronze age believes :(

catefrances

Godfather. wrote:

catefrances wrote:

arq wrote:

The bible said that god promised that he's not going to do that again (the flood).

hmm. quite convenient in these times of rational thought.

is it worth the gamble cate ?

Godfather.

well godfather tis not really an offer i CANT refuse, you know??

besides im not a gambler.

BinauralJam

Here's some news for ya; Jesus was not fair-skinned, blue eyed, and English speaking. I just think it's strange that so many Americans have adopted Jesus as one of their own. How come they don't adopt Islam or Buddhism instead? I believe Christianity is, and always was, a completely alien religion to people in the West - and in the year 2010 it's not just alien, but a failed religion; it's obsolete - way past it's sell by date. Like Communism, it's intentions may have been pure, but it's been perverted and deformed to the point where it no longer has any value. I think it should be consigned to the dust-bin of history.

And why do churches in the Western world still portray him as a Westerner? He wasn't. Even if we believe the fantasy bible version then Jesus would still have been dark skinned, brown eyed, and spoken Aramaic - a completely foreign language.

He would have looked nothing like this:



Actually, he would have looked more like this:



And if you don't think that religion and racism have any relation then I suggest you do your homework.[/quote]
that guys a lot older than 33

BinauralJam

What i think is funny is black people never heard of jesus until white people told them about him, then they claim him as one of there own , hell slavery was justified on the teaching of christanity

catefrances

KO282453 wrote:

What i think is funny is black people never heard of jesus until white people told them about him, then they claim him as one of there own , hell slavery was justified on the teaching of christanity

no more funny than all them white folks claiming an arab as one of their own.

BinauralJam

oh it think he was arab, but i work with a lot of black guys and they all beleive he was black, so ask them , "Well what about the 12 apostoles? were they black, and they they say NO, just Jesus, which i responded, do you REALLY see 12 White guys, 2,000 years ago, walking around a writing down EVERYTHING a Black man had to say? The were all freakin arabs.

catefrances

oh we were all black once upon a time.

BinauralJam

catefrances wrote:

oh we were all black once upon a time.

Not my WHITE ASS

arq

KO282453 wrote:

catefrances wrote:

oh we were all black once upon a time.

Not my WHITE ASS

the only part that was white the rest was black!!!