Tatjana Meschede, Ph.D.
Director of Research
Institute on Assets and Social Policy
The Heller School for Social Policy and Management
Brandeis University, MS035
415 South St, Waltham, MA 02454-9110
Phone: 781-736-8678; Fax: 781-736-3925 http://iasp.brandeis.edu
The Panel Study of Income Dynamics (PSID) is a longitudinal
survey of a representative sample of U.S. individuals (men,
women, and children) and the families in which they reside. It
has been ongoing since 1968. Data are collected annually, and the
data files contain the full span of information collected over
the course of the study. PSID data can be used for
cross-sectional, longitudinal and intergenerational analyses, and
for studying both individuals and families. The study emphasizes
the dynamic aspects of economic and demographic behavior, but it
contains a wide range of measures, including sociological and
psychological ones. Between 1968 and 1988, the PSID collected
information regarding approximately 37,500 individuals and
spanning as much as 21 years of their lives.
The general design and core content of the study have remained
largely unchanged, and considerable effort has been expended
cleaning the data. These two features greatly enhance the PSID's
potential for longitudinal analysis. Preparation and distribution
of comprehensive documentation and a User Guide also facilitate
use of the PSID data.
The study has been conducted at the Survey Research Center,
University of Michigan since its beginning in 1968, with the
Inter-University Consortium for Political and Social Research
(ICPSR) data archive handling the public distribution of the data
files, documentation, and User Guide. PSID data files have been
disseminated widely throughout the United States and to numerous
foreign countries.
Starting with a national sample of approximately 4,800 U.S.
households in 1968, the PSID has traced individuals from those
households since that time, whether or not they are living in the
same dwelling or with the same people. Adults have been followed
as they have grown older, and children have been observed as they
advance through childhood and into adulthood, forming families of
their own. Each year information is collected about the PSID's
sample members (members of the PSID's 1968 sample families or
their offspring) and their current co-residents (spouses,
cohabitors, children, and others living with them), even if those
co-residents were not part of original-sample families.
Because the original focus of the study was on the dynamics of
poverty, the 1968 sample included a disproportionately large
number of low-income households. The oversampling of families
poor in the late 1960s resulted in a sizable sub-sample of
blacks. Probability-of-selection weights enable analysts to make
estimates from the sample that are representative of the U.S.
population. In the absence of nonresponse bias, the PSID's rules
for tracking individuals and families over time lead to accurate
representation of the nonimmigrant U.S. population both
cross-sectionally each year, and in terms of change, since 1968.
To help correct for omissions in representing post-1968
immigrants, a representative sample of 2,043 Latino (Mexican,
Cuban, and Puerto Rican) households was added in 1990.
The study's tracking rules, along with its Latino
subsample addition in 1990, have meant substantial increases in
the number of individuals in the study as it has progressed
through time. In 1968 the PSID gathered information about
approximately 18,000 individuals; by 1988 this number had grown
to a cumulative total of about 37,500. Similarly, the number of
family units has increased from just under 5,000 at the beginning
of the study to about 7,000 currently, not including Latino
households.
The PSID provides a wide variety of information at the family and
individual level, as well as some information about the locations
in which sample households reside. The central focus of the data
is economic and demographic, with substantial detail on income
sources and amounts, employment, family composition changes, and
residential location. Content of a more sociological or
psychological nature is also included in some waves of the study.
Information gathered in the survey applies to the circumstances
of the family unit as a whole (e.g., type of housing) and to
particular persons in the family unit (e.g., age, earnings). Some
data are collected about all individuals in the family unit, but
the most extensive data are gathered for the family head (who is
male in married-couple families, but female or male otherwise)
and wife. Information about the study's core topics (e.g.,
income, employment, family composition) is gathered annually, and
this is supplemented with data on additional topics (e.g.,
health, wealth, retirement plans, flows of time and money help
among families and their friends, and motivation and efficacy)
gathered intermittently. The amount and variety of data are
substantial; over 300 pages are required to list, by topic and
wave, the variables on the study's main, cross-year data file.
The PSID staff merges each new wave of data with prior waves to
provide comprehensive coverage of information collected for
individuals and families over the entire course of the study.
These multi-wave data files become publicly available upon
completion of the merging, numerous data-quality checks, and
generation of variables. This usually occurs 18-24 months
following the completion of interviewing.
I bet my paycheck that some here think that this means most whites are racist, and/or because of this study, the ones who make more should give it to the black community.
I know you are out there so let it rip...
And why is this study done in the first place? What does it mean? That the Government should make changes to our lives so all people of different colors can make the same amount?
i don't like studies like this...Pointless. All it does is start shit.
I take it you're white? I also take it that you don't give a shit about minorities being unfairly treated in your society?
Good. Not knowing the source probably bugged me more then anything.
But I'm still having problems corrolating this study with other thier other studies on the overall middle class where Brandies paints an overall gloomy picture. If the average white middle class family truly have $95K in wealth, then their other reports have some explaining to do. Their "By a Thread" report http://iasp.brandeis.edu/pdfs/byathread_web.pdf (page 8) notes that all middles class families have a median debt of $3,500 and net assets of $0.
My concern is that Brandies is using selective interpolation in their studies.
The doors are wide open here in the US to go to school. Its a level playingfield, and in some cases, minorities have the advantage.
100% correct. Every single person has a right to education. I think from kindergarden to 12th grade kids should be taught how to save money because the parents are not doing it.
The doors are wide open here in the US to go to school. Its a level playingfield, and in some cases, minorities have the advantage.
100% correct. Every single person has a right to education. I think from kindergarden to 12th grade kids should be taught how to save money because the parents are not doing it.
I don't think we're talking about k-12 here.
But I do agree with you that kids absolutely need to be taught some sort of personal finance skills. I know it was never discussed when I was growing up. Money always had this taboo feel to it...probably cuz my parents were quite poor and ashamed to even talk about it. It should get some sort of attention in schools so kids and teens understand how to better handle money, credit etc.
The doors are wide open here in the US to go to school. Its a level playingfield, and in some cases, minorities have the advantage.
100% correct. Every single person has a right to education. I think from kindergarden to 12th grade kids should be taught how to save money because the parents are not doing it.
We're not talking about education. The survey was not about education. The subject is about economic disparity between whites and blacks in the U.S, and the 'powerful role of persistent discrimination in housing, credit and labour markets..'
100% correct. Every single person has a right to education. I think from kindergarden to 12th grade kids should be taught how to save money because the parents are not doing it.[/quote]
We're not talking about education. The survey was not about education. The subject is about economic disparity between whites and blacks in the U.S, and the 'powerful role of persistent discrimination in housing, credit and labour markets..'[/quote]
byrnzie
isn't it about education?
this country has never cared a damn about educating black people or other minorities.
if my parents and their parents and their parents and their parents never were taught to better themselves through education, i would not have a fighting chance either.
we've taught dogs more in the past 50 years than what america tries to do for these people.
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
Good article, but my question is did they say how they identified people as white or black? I've still never seen a quantifiable definition.
In most studies, race is self-identified (whatever you think you are). There is no more objective definition, in part because no one is actually "pure". Obama is "black", even though he's at least half Caucasian.
I know that's how it's defined and that's exactly why it's time to get rid of those labels. They mean nothing.
how some defines and identifies themselves means nothing....
that is crazy, that the best way to create the definition, better then me telling someone what they are
I bet my paycheck that some here think that this means most whites are racist, and/or because of this study, the ones who make more should give it to the black community.
I know you are out there so let it rip...
And why is this study done in the first place? What does it mean? That the Government should make changes to our lives so all people of different colors can make the same amount?
i don't like studies like this...Pointless. All it does is start shit.
I take it you're white? I also take it that you don't give a shit about minorities being unfairly treated in your society?
Well let me say this...I think their is a reason for Stereo Types. They were invented because many times they are cruel but somewhat true. Like it or not, yea yea I am a horrible person for saying that but they are what they are because someone noticed a pattern amongst individual races.
My race as well.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
I bet my paycheck that some here think that this means most whites are racist, and/or because of this study, the ones who make more should give it to the black community.
I know you are out there so let it rip...
And why is this study done in the first place? What does it mean? That the Government should make changes to our lives so all people of different colors can make the same amount?
i don't like studies like this...Pointless. All it does is start shit.
I take it you're white? I also take it that you don't give a shit about minorities being unfairly treated in your society?
Well let me say this...I think their is a reason for Stereo Types. They were invented because many times they are cruel but somewhat true. Like it or not, yea yea I am a horrible person for saying that but they are what they are because someone noticed a pattern amongst individual races.
My race as well.
stereotypes do have some basis in fact. but its lazy fact imo.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I bet my paycheck that some here think that this means most whites are racist, and/or because of this study, the ones who make more should give it to the black community.
I know you are out there so let it rip...
And why is this study done in the first place? What does it mean? That the Government should make changes to our lives so all people of different colors can make the same amount?
i don't like studies like this...Pointless. All it does is start shit.
I take it you're white? I also take it that you don't give a shit about minorities being unfairly treated in your society?
Well let me say this...I think their is a reason for Stereo Types. They were invented because many times they are cruel but somewhat true. Like it or not, yea yea I am a horrible person for saying that but they are what they are because someone noticed a pattern amongst individual races.
My race as well.
Of course there's a reason for stereotypes. Stereotypes, Prejudices & bigotry make it easier for dim-witted people to cope with reality and justify discrimination and the oppression of others.
By the way, Hitler and his ilk also noticed patterns amongst individual races. You should check those studies out some time. And then when you're done stroking yourself off over them you can read about how those studies and others like them were all proven to be politically motivated and scientifically baseless and defunct.
stereotypes do have some basis in fact. but its lazy fact imo.
That's not a bad way to put it ... Some and lazy being the operative words. Our brains are hardwired to form abstract generations, which we then use to make heuristic or "quick and dirty" rule of thumb decisions about other people. This process produces accurate judgments some of the time, but its also the source of ignorant judgments in the absense of evidence around an individual case. BOTH sides of the racism argument use these heuristic judgments, by the way ... Check out that thread about the Obama assassination example that the teacher in Arkansas used. My view is that the debate about race would be better served if people relied more on logical reasoning, and less on stereotypes and emotions.
Its pretty simple - Parents. Being taugh respect and personal responsibility can get you where you want to go. If your parents give a shit, you'll see success. We need stop perpetuating excusses for people and continually giving handouts to even things out. No one said life was fair.
[/quote]
I take it you're white? I also take it that you don't give a shit about minorities being unfairly treated in your society?[/quote]
Well let me say this...I think their is a reason for Stereo Types. They were invented because many times they are cruel but somewhat true. Like it or not, yea yea I am a horrible person for saying that but they are what they are because someone noticed a pattern amongst individual races.
My race as well.[/quote]
Of course there's a reason for stereotypes. Stereotypes, Prejudices & bigotry make it easier for dim-witted people to cope with reality and justify discrimination and the oppression of others.
By the way, Hitler and his ilk also noticed patterns amongst individual races. You should check those studies out some time. And then when you're done stroking yourself off over them you can read about how those studies and others like them were all proven to be politically motivated and scientifically baseless and defunct.[/quote]
By the way....LOVE the Profile Pic! I wonder how many here know who that is.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Its pretty simple - Parents. Being taugh respect and personal responsibility can get you where you want to go. If your parents give a shit, you'll see success. We need stop perpetuating excusses for people and continually giving handouts to even things out. No one said life was fair.
Who's being given handouts and having excuses made for them? This study shows that blacks are being fucked in the ass. It says nothing about excuses or handouts.
Its pretty simple - Parents. Being taugh respect and personal responsibility can get you where you want to go. If your parents give a shit, you'll see success. We need stop perpetuating excusses for people and continually giving handouts to even things out. No one said life was fair.
Who's being given handouts and having excuses made for them? This study shows that blacks are being fucked in the ass. It says nothing about excuses or handouts.
The report does state that job achievement and income cannot predict wealth holdings due to the disparity in wealth between whites and blacks. Page three of the report addresses having public policy play a major role in closing the wealth gap.
I saw this story in the news several days ago, I am really not that surprised about it. What I don't like is them coming at it only from the racial standing of blacks and whites. I feel one of the largest problems in our society is income inequality suffered by all races living in depressed areas or simply have very low incomes, even some people who make "decent" money. Our system is designed to reward those with more and simply sustain those with less.
Education is definitely a part of the equation and the fixes, they majority of the black population lives in inner cities with typically host the most troubled schools. Again it really doesn't need to be a black and white thing because whites, Latino, Asian at that same school are starting with the same disadvantage the blacks are given. So yes let’s fix education so every one is on an equal playing field when presented with the opportunity for higher education.
Another potential part of the solution is involvement as long as we remain silent, and content with treatment we receive, the divide will continue to grow. It will not stop till we are a two class system rich and poor. As long as we are a free market capitalist society these things will not change.
I saw this story in the news several days ago, I am really not that surprised about it. What I don't like is them coming at it only from the racial standing of blacks and whites. I feel one of the largest problems in our society is income inequality suffered by all races living in depressed areas or simply have very low incomes, even some people who make "decent" money. Our system is designed to reward those with more and simply sustain those with less.
Education is definitely a part of the equation and the fixes, they majority of the black population lives in inner cities with typically host the most troubled schools. Again it really doesn't need to be a black and white thing because whites, Latino, Asian at that same school are starting with the same disadvantage the blacks are given. So yes let’s fix education so every one is on an equal playing field when presented with the opportunity for higher education.
Another potential part of the solution is involvement as long as we remain silent, and content with treatment we receive, the divide will continue to grow. It will not stop till we are a two class system rich and poor. As long as we are a free market capitalist society these things will not change.
I saw this story in the news several days ago, I am really not that surprised about it. What I don't like is them coming at it only from the racial standing of blacks and whites. I feel one of the largest problems in our society is income inequality suffered by all races living in depressed areas or simply have very low incomes, even some people who make "decent" money. Our system is designed to reward those with more and simply sustain those with less.
Education is definitely a part of the equation and the fixes, they majority of the black population lives in inner cities with typically host the most troubled schools. Again it really doesn't need to be a black and white thing because whites, Latino, Asian at that same school are starting with the same disadvantage the blacks are given. So yes let’s fix education so every one is on an equal playing field when presented with the opportunity for higher education.
Another potential part of the solution is involvement as long as we remain silent, and content with treatment we receive, the divide will continue to grow. It will not stop till we are a two class system rich and poor. As long as we are a free market capitalist society these things will not change.
yes its not as if all this money is flowing freely among white people. its CERTAIN white people. You're no more likely to tap into that money as a white guy as any other race if you dont belong to that group that has the money.
like my little dirt stain hometown. its 100% white, the people are poor. they were born poor, live poor and will die poor except for a few exceptions. yet this study suggests that they somehow have it better than the blacks in the next town over because their race happens to be the same as the people who control the wealth. its a false assumption.
Parenting is the Key here, Education system could be better but that is not the problem, Actually physically going to school is the problem. Taking your son out of school to get the new Jordan's that hit the street at footlocker does nothing but reinforce their thought process that school is not important and having nice clothes and cars are. Living off welfare and foodstamp will never teach anyone how to manage money and gain welth. When you have generations living off welfare and foodstamps then the problem continues to expand.
Spend time with your kids, know what they are doing and who their friends are, and continually to ask them questions about school and challenge their mind.
Parenting is the Key here, Education system could be better but that is not the problem, Actually physically going to school is the problem. Taking your son out of school to get the new Jordan's that hit the street at footlocker does nothing but reinforce their thought process that school is not important and having nice clothes and cars are. Living off welfare and foodstamp will never teach anyone how to manage money and gain welth. When you have generations living off welfare and foodstamps then the problem continues to expand.
Spend time with your kids, know what they are doing and who their friends are, and continually to ask them questions about school and challenge their mind.
I have not yet had the fortune of children and thus try not to speak about parenting. However I remember my child hood and I know for a fact that my parents 9 times out of 10 where no where near by when I was at my worst, but in reality my mother never strayed far I had a cell phone only if I picked up her calls every time she called and that was often. Still I managed to go against the good I was taught from time to time using only my free will. So I think you point while useful to the overall argument, it is far from the solution! IMO
Comments
we used the Panel Study of Income Dynamics (PSID). Detailed sampling information can be found at this link:
http://psidonline.isr.umich.edu/Guide/ug/intro.html
Best, Tatjana
Tatjana Meschede, Ph.D.
Director of Research
Institute on Assets and Social Policy
The Heller School for Social Policy and Management
Brandeis University, MS035
415 South St, Waltham, MA 02454-9110
Phone: 781-736-8678; Fax: 781-736-3925
http://iasp.brandeis.edu
The Panel Study of Income Dynamics (PSID) is a longitudinal
survey of a representative sample of U.S. individuals (men,
women, and children) and the families in which they reside. It
has been ongoing since 1968. Data are collected annually, and the
data files contain the full span of information collected over
the course of the study. PSID data can be used for
cross-sectional, longitudinal and intergenerational analyses, and
for studying both individuals and families. The study emphasizes
the dynamic aspects of economic and demographic behavior, but it
contains a wide range of measures, including sociological and
psychological ones. Between 1968 and 1988, the PSID collected
information regarding approximately 37,500 individuals and
spanning as much as 21 years of their lives.
The general design and core content of the study have remained
largely unchanged, and considerable effort has been expended
cleaning the data. These two features greatly enhance the PSID's
potential for longitudinal analysis. Preparation and distribution
of comprehensive documentation and a User Guide also facilitate
use of the PSID data.
The study has been conducted at the Survey Research Center,
University of Michigan since its beginning in 1968, with the
Inter-University Consortium for Political and Social Research
(ICPSR) data archive handling the public distribution of the data
files, documentation, and User Guide. PSID data files have been
disseminated widely throughout the United States and to numerous
foreign countries.
Starting with a national sample of approximately 4,800 U.S.
households in 1968, the PSID has traced individuals from those
households since that time, whether or not they are living in the
same dwelling or with the same people. Adults have been followed
as they have grown older, and children have been observed as they
advance through childhood and into adulthood, forming families of
their own. Each year information is collected about the PSID's
sample members (members of the PSID's 1968 sample families or
their offspring) and their current co-residents (spouses,
cohabitors, children, and others living with them), even if those
co-residents were not part of original-sample families.
Because the original focus of the study was on the dynamics of
poverty, the 1968 sample included a disproportionately large
number of low-income households. The oversampling of families
poor in the late 1960s resulted in a sizable sub-sample of
blacks. Probability-of-selection weights enable analysts to make
estimates from the sample that are representative of the U.S.
population. In the absence of nonresponse bias, the PSID's rules
for tracking individuals and families over time lead to accurate
representation of the nonimmigrant U.S. population both
cross-sectionally each year, and in terms of change, since 1968.
To help correct for omissions in representing post-1968
immigrants, a representative sample of 2,043 Latino (Mexican,
Cuban, and Puerto Rican) households was added in 1990.
The study's tracking rules, along with its Latino
subsample addition in 1990, have meant substantial increases in
the number of individuals in the study as it has progressed
through time. In 1968 the PSID gathered information about
approximately 18,000 individuals; by 1988 this number had grown
to a cumulative total of about 37,500. Similarly, the number of
family units has increased from just under 5,000 at the beginning
of the study to about 7,000 currently, not including Latino
households.
The PSID provides a wide variety of information at the family and
individual level, as well as some information about the locations
in which sample households reside. The central focus of the data
is economic and demographic, with substantial detail on income
sources and amounts, employment, family composition changes, and
residential location. Content of a more sociological or
psychological nature is also included in some waves of the study.
Information gathered in the survey applies to the circumstances
of the family unit as a whole (e.g., type of housing) and to
particular persons in the family unit (e.g., age, earnings). Some
data are collected about all individuals in the family unit, but
the most extensive data are gathered for the family head (who is
male in married-couple families, but female or male otherwise)
and wife. Information about the study's core topics (e.g.,
income, employment, family composition) is gathered annually, and
this is supplemented with data on additional topics (e.g.,
health, wealth, retirement plans, flows of time and money help
among families and their friends, and motivation and efficacy)
gathered intermittently. The amount and variety of data are
substantial; over 300 pages are required to list, by topic and
wave, the variables on the study's main, cross-year data file.
The PSID staff merges each new wave of data with prior waves to
provide comprehensive coverage of information collected for
individuals and families over the entire course of the study.
These multi-wave data files become publicly available upon
completion of the merging, numerous data-quality checks, and
generation of variables. This usually occurs 18-24 months
following the completion of interviewing.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
You'd love it to be that simple wouldn't you.
I take it you're white? I also take it that you don't give a shit about minorities being unfairly treated in your society?
Do you have anything to support this statement, or did you just make it up because it sounds convenient?
"Shaq is rich. The guy who pays Shaq is wealthy."
im a fool.. i read it as 5x as many whites richer than blacks. :roll:
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
But I'm still having problems corrolating this study with other thier other studies on the overall middle class where Brandies paints an overall gloomy picture. If the average white middle class family truly have $95K in wealth, then their other reports have some explaining to do. Their "By a Thread" report http://iasp.brandeis.edu/pdfs/byathread_web.pdf (page 8) notes that all middles class families have a median debt of $3,500 and net assets of $0.
My concern is that Brandies is using selective interpolation in their studies.
100% correct. Every single person has a right to education. I think from kindergarden to 12th grade kids should be taught how to save money because the parents are not doing it.
But I do agree with you that kids absolutely need to be taught some sort of personal finance skills. I know it was never discussed when I was growing up. Money always had this taboo feel to it...probably cuz my parents were quite poor and ashamed to even talk about it. It should get some sort of attention in schools so kids and teens understand how to better handle money, credit etc.
We're not talking about education. The survey was not about education. The subject is about economic disparity between whites and blacks in the U.S, and the 'powerful role of persistent discrimination in housing, credit and labour markets..'
We're not talking about education. The survey was not about education. The subject is about economic disparity between whites and blacks in the U.S, and the 'powerful role of persistent discrimination in housing, credit and labour markets..'[/quote]
byrnzie
isn't it about education?
this country has never cared a damn about educating black people or other minorities.
if my parents and their parents and their parents and their parents never were taught to better themselves through education, i would not have a fighting chance either.
we've taught dogs more in the past 50 years than what america tries to do for these people.
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
how some defines and identifies themselves means nothing....
that is crazy, that the best way to create the definition, better then me telling someone what they are
ummm yeah well this comment is just stupid
My race as well.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
stereotypes do have some basis in fact. but its lazy fact imo.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Of course there's a reason for stereotypes. Stereotypes, Prejudices & bigotry make it easier for dim-witted people to cope with reality and justify discrimination and the oppression of others.
By the way, Hitler and his ilk also noticed patterns amongst individual races. You should check those studies out some time. And then when you're done stroking yourself off over them you can read about how those studies and others like them were all proven to be politically motivated and scientifically baseless and defunct.
Godfather.
That's not a bad way to put it ... Some and lazy being the operative words. Our brains are hardwired to form abstract generations, which we then use to make heuristic or "quick and dirty" rule of thumb decisions about other people. This process produces accurate judgments some of the time, but its also the source of ignorant judgments in the absense of evidence around an individual case. BOTH sides of the racism argument use these heuristic judgments, by the way ... Check out that thread about the Obama assassination example that the teacher in Arkansas used. My view is that the debate about race would be better served if people relied more on logical reasoning, and less on stereotypes and emotions.
I take it you're white? I also take it that you don't give a shit about minorities being unfairly treated in your society?[/quote]
Well let me say this...I think their is a reason for Stereo Types. They were invented because many times they are cruel but somewhat true. Like it or not, yea yea I am a horrible person for saying that but they are what they are because someone noticed a pattern amongst individual races.
My race as well.[/quote]
Of course there's a reason for stereotypes. Stereotypes, Prejudices & bigotry make it easier for dim-witted people to cope with reality and justify discrimination and the oppression of others.
By the way, Hitler and his ilk also noticed patterns amongst individual races. You should check those studies out some time. And then when you're done stroking yourself off over them you can read about how those studies and others like them were all proven to be politically motivated and scientifically baseless and defunct.[/quote]
By the way....LOVE the Profile Pic! I wonder how many here know who that is.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Who's being given handouts and having excuses made for them? This study shows that blacks are being fucked in the ass. It says nothing about excuses or handouts.
Education is definitely a part of the equation and the fixes, they majority of the black population lives in inner cities with typically host the most troubled schools. Again it really doesn't need to be a black and white thing because whites, Latino, Asian at that same school are starting with the same disadvantage the blacks are given. So yes let’s fix education so every one is on an equal playing field when presented with the opportunity for higher education.
Another potential part of the solution is involvement as long as we remain silent, and content with treatment we receive, the divide will continue to grow. It will not stop till we are a two class system rich and poor. As long as we are a free market capitalist society these things will not change.
like my little dirt stain hometown. its 100% white, the people are poor. they were born poor, live poor and will die poor except for a few exceptions. yet this study suggests that they somehow have it better than the blacks in the next town over because their race happens to be the same as the people who control the wealth. its a false assumption.
Spend time with your kids, know what they are doing and who their friends are, and continually to ask them questions about school and challenge their mind.
I have not yet had the fortune of children and thus try not to speak about parenting. However I remember my child hood and I know for a fact that my parents 9 times out of 10 where no where near by when I was at my worst, but in reality my mother never strayed far I had a cell phone only if I picked up her calls every time she called and that was often. Still I managed to go against the good I was taught from time to time using only my free will. So I think you point while useful to the overall argument, it is far from the solution! IMO
Alabama, not Arkansas.