Yeah, I am pretty sure it will be done next week. If not it will definitely be done by the time college football starts and football fans have a real alternative. Although I am not a big fan of college football, any port in a storm.
i'm just defending the cowboys thread...and the jackson stuff comes from the vick article in SI last year where he says they all go out on the town partying, and vick stays in. as far as the brewers we're done with that BS interleague shit, tied the pirates, and are about to own in the central
i'd wager that 90% of all millionare athletes party it up as much as possible, white or black.
rw, i must say, i think you are a racist. :shock:
absolutely they do...it was just funny that they are too crazy for Vick. i certainly see things through a white working class lens so I'm sure race has something to do with the ways I think and act. anyway the namdi countdown is on next week!
The NFL as pissed me off so much with this stupid lockout I haven't been able to pay attention to anything. We should be talking about training camp right now.
I agree. I can't follow this nonsense. Half of what the NFL leaks about these 'negotiations' is bullshit.
Anyone that pretends to know when this is going to end is full of shit. Wake me when it's resolved. Until then I will keep making fun of the cowboys WRs :thumbup:
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i'm just defending the cowboys thread...and the jackson stuff comes from the vick article in SI last year where he says they all go out on the town partying, and vick stays in. as far as the brewers we're done with that BS interleague shit, tied the pirates, and are about to own in the central
i'd wager that 90% of all millionare athletes party it up as much as possible, white or black.
rw, i must say, i think you are a racist. :shock:
absolutely they do...it was just funny that they are too crazy for Vick. i certainly see things through a white working class lens so I'm sure race has something to do with the ways I think and act. anyway the namdi countdown is on next week!
birds keep trying to down play their interest in him. he is 31 i think right? i know j jones is gonna throw a boatload of cash at him. dallas and the birds have similiar needs. the few weeks before camp hits is gonna be fun. not sure how i'll be able to concentrate at work with all the news/rumors that will be flying around.
With the NFL's free agent frenzy kicking off tomorrow at 10am, it will be an interesting time for the NFC East. With rosters expanding to 90 players, teams will be adding on average about 50 new names to their squad. Included among those are teams re-signing their own free agents, signing other veteran free agents, draft picks and undrafted rookie free agents. The Eagles and Redskins will both have upwards of $20 million in cap space to play with. The Giants and Cowboys however, are in the red.
The Cowboys are currently $13.9 million over the cap, which is the second highest number in the league, behind only the Raiders, who are unbelievably $14.9 million over. Dallas is in a tough position because not only would this make it tough to pursue top free agents, it also hampers their ability to re-sign their own key free agents like RT Doug Free, who is set to get a major pay day.
Of course, there are things Dallas can do to get under the cap. Namely, releasing veterans like Marion Barber and Roy Williams, both of whom make pretty good money that their production doesn't really justify. Getting rid of Barber would save $4.75 million while cutting Williams would save a whopping $12.9 million. So, those two moves alone would at least get them back to even. They could also let go of guys like Terence Newman, Leonard Davis and Marc Colombo and recoup another $7-8 mil in cap space. That said, the Cowboys will not likely be major players in free agency this year and their likely standard of offseason success will be whether they can retain Free.
The Giants are $6.1 million over the cap but they can get under much easier. By cutting former Eagle Shawn Andrews and his $7.5 million cap figure, the Giants are back in the black. However, they also have several major decisions to make that could force several more cuts to make room. Starting RB Ahmad Bradshaw is an unrestricted free agent that will likely demand pretty big money to keep. WR Steve Smith is a free agent and despite coming off an injury filled year, could draw interest as well. The Giants will also have to figure out what to do with Osi Umenyiora, who has publicly criticized the team about their unwillingness to give him a new contract. In fact, in the lawsuit the player filed against the owners, Umenyiora was a named plaintiff and alleged in an affidavit that the Giants lied to him about negotiating a new deal. So whether to trade him or give him a big new contract will be another major issue.
I think the 'Boys drop Williams and Barber and restructure the contracts of Romo, Austin and Ware to free up some space to get a good cb and some new faces on the d-line.
Also, they need to make signing Doug Free a priority.
I am excited that everything will happen this week or next. I should take vacation to sit around, drink beer and watch all the transactions take place!
IRVING, Texas -- Marion Barber's time with the Dallas Cowboys has finally run out.
Team owner and general manager Jerry Jones met with some players on Tuesday morning and told them not to bother reporting to training camp in San Antonio on Wednesday because they will be cut.
Barber was one of those players, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter, along with wide reciever Roy Williams, Pro Bowl guard Leonard Davis and kicker Kris Brown.
Cutting Barber frees up $4.75 million in salary-cap space. It is possible tackle Marc Colombo, who also met with Jones Tuesday morning, could be added to the list in the near future. A fourth-round pick in 2005, Barber established himself as a tough runner with the ability to get in the end zone, but after signing a seven-year, $45 million deal in 2008 that included $16 million guaranteed, his production fell off.
He failed to run for 1,000 yards in any season and after scoring 33 touchdowns in his first three seasons he had just 18 in his final three seasons. He ran for a career-low 374 yards on 113 carries last season, missing three games with a calf injury. The Cowboys went with Felix Jones as their No. 1 back as 2010 went on and drafted DeMarco Murray in the third round of the April draft, making Barber expendable. Barber was scheduled to earn a $4.25 million base salary this season and a $500,000 roster bonus.
Colombo's agent, Jimmy Sexton, had told ESPNDallas.com on Tuesday morning that Colombo was being cut. A decision will have to be made quickly, however, with players reporting Wednesday.
Colombo is due a $2.6 million option bonus as well as a $1.9 million base salary and $500,000 roster bonus that would be paid out weekly during the season. By cutting Colombo, the Cowboys would save about $2.4 million in salary cap room.
It is possible the Cowboys and Colombo could reach an agreement on a re-worked contract at a lower price.
Signed in 2005 after he was cut by Chicago, where he was a first-round pick, Colombo became one of the Cowboys' best finds in the Jones' era. He took over the starter's job in 2006 and held it through last season, battling through injuries.
He missed one game last year after having knee surgery in training camp and played through an elbow injury that limited his strength. In 2009 he missed the final seven regular-season games with a fractured fibula and high ankle sprain but made it back for the playoffs, although he struggled in the divisional round loss to Minnesota.
Brown, who was viewed as a competitor to David Buehler for the kicking job, was scheduled to earn $910,000 in 2011.
Davis, who signed a seven-year deal worth $49 million in 2007 as a free agent from Arizona, started every game he played for the Cowboys and was named to the Pro Bowl in each of his first three seasons.
The move saves the Cowboys $6 million against the salary cap this year. Davis was scheduled to earn $6 million in base salary and count $9.416 against the cap in 2011.
The Cowboys have veteran Montrae Holland as a potential replacement and drafted David Arkin in the fourth round. It is possible they could look to the open market for a veteran as well.
When the Cowboys signed Davis, Jones hinted at the possibility of moving him to left tackle if needed, but Davis proved to be a dominant guard in his first few seasons. Davis, who turns 33 in September, struggled at times last year and was replaced by Holland against Tennessee but returned after Holland suffered an eye injury. Davis' play toward the end of the season was improved.
If the Cowboys end up releasing Colombo, then they will be breaking in a new right side of the line for Tony Romo. Rookie Tyron Smith is expected to start at right tackle and Holland has starter's experience but has only done so four times since coming to the Cowboys in 2008.
Wow. Nice job Jerry. We didn't need those fucking draft picks anyway.
Ooops, just saw the post above.
I am not concerned about any of these, although Leonard Davis is a little surprising. He's been pretty solid despite his issues last year, but I guess he isn't worth it with the new cap.
Finally we can be over the MB3 farce, hopefully Felix Jones realized that getting fat doesn't work for running backs. Roy Williams only hurts us from the 10 yard line in. Flagg you are right I think Davis is the big loss, with the emphasis more on big than loss. I wonder how the rest of this week is going to go for us...
Finally we can be over the MB3 farce, hopefully Felix Jones realized that getting fat doesn't work for running backs. Roy Williams only hurts us from the 10 yard line in. Flagg you are right I think Davis is the big loss, with the emphasis more on big than loss. I wonder how the rest of this week is going to go for us...
agree with u and flagg
i see jerry making a big move thats good and that's getting Nnadmi. i hope to god jerry doesn't go after moss or burress. those be horrible mistakes.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
I'm sure Moss would have a positive influence on Dez...part of me actually wants this to happen. I love the Cowboys, but those two together would be pure gold.
I'm ok with the mag cover (good article articulating some issues with it here: http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/daily-t ... sand-words). it's much better than him stabbing a teammate in the neck with scissors, sexually harassing a female employee, getting caught with drugs, and any number of other things he did to screw up in the past.
I'm ok with the mag cover (good article articulating some issues with it here: http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/daily-t ... sand-words). it's much better than him stabbing a teammate in the neck with scissors, sexually harassing a female employee, getting caught with drugs, and any number of other things he did to screw up in the past.
It's probably very telling that Irvin was my 2nd favorite players growing up, just behind Alvin Harper (who I recently learned actually intercepted a Tommy Maddox pass in 1992).
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I'm ok with the mag cover (good article articulating some issues with it here: http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/daily-t ... sand-words). it's much better than him stabbing a teammate in the neck with scissors, sexually harassing a female employee, getting caught with drugs, and any number of other things he did to screw up in the past.
i agree. gotta give him credit for the article...i'd have gone a different direction with that cover photo though.
Is Doug Free actually good? I think the plan with OLs in normal seasons should be just to get a bunch of young guys and let them gel in the offseason and get rolling by the season's second half, then keep them cheap 3-4 years, watch them all go and repeat. The Ravens have been doing something like that for awhile, and it seems to be working for them.
Is Doug Free actually good? I think the plan with OLs in normal seasons should be just to get a bunch of young guys and let them gel in the offseason and get rolling by the season's second half, then keep them cheap 3-4 years, watch them all go and repeat. The Ravens have been doing something like that for awhile, and it seems to be working for them.
Yes, he is good. Watch him more closely once the season opens up. He is pretty solid.
I'm happy we re-signed Kosier as well. Now let's go out and get Jenkins and a good S and we are set!
Free is worth it and I am very happy with them keeping Kosier. It is noticeable when Kosier isn't in the game.
I don't know about this season. We have all had our expectations built up over the years only to be disappointed. But this year feels like a rebuilding year to me. They just lost two starters on the OL. Gurode is starting off on the PUP list. The starting receivers are Ausin and Dez Bryant. I love Austin, but can he be the #1 guy? I always thought he benefited from being overlooked by the defense.
They have big issues at RB. Can Felix Jones go back to what he was in 2009? Can he carry the load as the starting RB?
And then there is the defense. The defense was such a problem last year and I see pretty much the same crew out there this year.
And then there is the defense. The defense was such a problem last year and I see pretty much the same crew out there this year.
The big difference is that we don't have the cupcake running the D this year! That is an improvement in itself, lol.
True. And I think Rex will make a HUGE difference. But my main gripe is that they don't have any impact players other than Ware and maybe Ratliff. If you took Butler, Olshansky, Brooking, Bradie James, Newman (at this point), Church, etc. and replaced them all with guys off the street would we notice a big difference? James goes through streaks where you never hear his name called.
this team blows....let's just get randy moss so things get interesting then. Also when do we finally get to cut Witten? I will put a countdown on my computer waiting for him to not be on our team.
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MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
I agree. I can't follow this nonsense. Half of what the NFL leaks about these 'negotiations' is bullshit.
Anyone that pretends to know when this is going to end is full of shit. Wake me when it's resolved. Until then I will keep making fun of the cowboys WRs :thumbup:
birds keep trying to down play their interest in him. he is 31 i think right? i know j jones is gonna throw a boatload of cash at him. dallas and the birds have similiar needs. the few weeks before camp hits is gonna be fun. not sure how i'll be able to concentrate at work with all the news/rumors that will be flying around.
not in philadelphia...
thank you michael irvin...that mag cover is gold!!!
I might only have a few days left to wear that Barber jersey...
http://philly.sbnation.com/philadelphia ... red-by-cap
NFL Free Agency Rumors: Cowboys, Giants Could Be Hampered By Cap Concerns
by Jason Brewer
With the NFL's free agent frenzy kicking off tomorrow at 10am, it will be an interesting time for the NFC East. With rosters expanding to 90 players, teams will be adding on average about 50 new names to their squad. Included among those are teams re-signing their own free agents, signing other veteran free agents, draft picks and undrafted rookie free agents. The Eagles and Redskins will both have upwards of $20 million in cap space to play with. The Giants and Cowboys however, are in the red.
The Cowboys are currently $13.9 million over the cap, which is the second highest number in the league, behind only the Raiders, who are unbelievably $14.9 million over. Dallas is in a tough position because not only would this make it tough to pursue top free agents, it also hampers their ability to re-sign their own key free agents like RT Doug Free, who is set to get a major pay day.
Of course, there are things Dallas can do to get under the cap. Namely, releasing veterans like Marion Barber and Roy Williams, both of whom make pretty good money that their production doesn't really justify. Getting rid of Barber would save $4.75 million while cutting Williams would save a whopping $12.9 million. So, those two moves alone would at least get them back to even. They could also let go of guys like Terence Newman, Leonard Davis and Marc Colombo and recoup another $7-8 mil in cap space. That said, the Cowboys will not likely be major players in free agency this year and their likely standard of offseason success will be whether they can retain Free.
The Giants are $6.1 million over the cap but they can get under much easier. By cutting former Eagle Shawn Andrews and his $7.5 million cap figure, the Giants are back in the black. However, they also have several major decisions to make that could force several more cuts to make room. Starting RB Ahmad Bradshaw is an unrestricted free agent that will likely demand pretty big money to keep. WR Steve Smith is a free agent and despite coming off an injury filled year, could draw interest as well. The Giants will also have to figure out what to do with Osi Umenyiora, who has publicly criticized the team about their unwillingness to give him a new contract. In fact, in the lawsuit the player filed against the owners, Umenyiora was a named plaintiff and alleged in an affidavit that the Giants lied to him about negotiating a new deal. So whether to trade him or give him a big new contract will be another major issue.
All salary cap info comes from ESPN.
Also, they need to make signing Doug Free a priority.
I am excited that everything will happen this week or next. I should take vacation to sit around, drink beer and watch all the transactions take place!
Team owner and general manager Jerry Jones met with some players on Tuesday morning and told them not to bother reporting to training camp in San Antonio on Wednesday because they will be cut.
Barber was one of those players, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter, along with wide reciever Roy Williams, Pro Bowl guard Leonard Davis and kicker Kris Brown.
Cutting Barber frees up $4.75 million in salary-cap space. It is possible tackle Marc Colombo, who also met with Jones Tuesday morning, could be added to the list in the near future. A fourth-round pick in 2005, Barber established himself as a tough runner with the ability to get in the end zone, but after signing a seven-year, $45 million deal in 2008 that included $16 million guaranteed, his production fell off.
He failed to run for 1,000 yards in any season and after scoring 33 touchdowns in his first three seasons he had just 18 in his final three seasons. He ran for a career-low 374 yards on 113 carries last season, missing three games with a calf injury. The Cowboys went with Felix Jones as their No. 1 back as 2010 went on and drafted DeMarco Murray in the third round of the April draft, making Barber expendable. Barber was scheduled to earn a $4.25 million base salary this season and a $500,000 roster bonus.
Colombo's agent, Jimmy Sexton, had told ESPNDallas.com on Tuesday morning that Colombo was being cut. A decision will have to be made quickly, however, with players reporting Wednesday.
Colombo is due a $2.6 million option bonus as well as a $1.9 million base salary and $500,000 roster bonus that would be paid out weekly during the season. By cutting Colombo, the Cowboys would save about $2.4 million in salary cap room.
It is possible the Cowboys and Colombo could reach an agreement on a re-worked contract at a lower price.
Signed in 2005 after he was cut by Chicago, where he was a first-round pick, Colombo became one of the Cowboys' best finds in the Jones' era. He took over the starter's job in 2006 and held it through last season, battling through injuries.
He missed one game last year after having knee surgery in training camp and played through an elbow injury that limited his strength. In 2009 he missed the final seven regular-season games with a fractured fibula and high ankle sprain but made it back for the playoffs, although he struggled in the divisional round loss to Minnesota.
Brown, who was viewed as a competitor to David Buehler for the kicking job, was scheduled to earn $910,000 in 2011.
Davis, who signed a seven-year deal worth $49 million in 2007 as a free agent from Arizona, started every game he played for the Cowboys and was named to the Pro Bowl in each of his first three seasons.
The move saves the Cowboys $6 million against the salary cap this year. Davis was scheduled to earn $6 million in base salary and count $9.416 against the cap in 2011.
The Cowboys have veteran Montrae Holland as a potential replacement and drafted David Arkin in the fourth round. It is possible they could look to the open market for a veteran as well.
When the Cowboys signed Davis, Jones hinted at the possibility of moving him to left tackle if needed, but Davis proved to be a dominant guard in his first few seasons. Davis, who turns 33 in September, struggled at times last year and was replaced by Holland against Tennessee but returned after Holland suffered an eye injury. Davis' play toward the end of the season was improved.
If the Cowboys end up releasing Colombo, then they will be breaking in a new right side of the line for Tony Romo. Rookie Tyron Smith is expected to start at right tackle and Holland has starter's experience but has only done so four times since coming to the Cowboys in 2008.
Wow. Nice job Jerry. We didn't need those fucking draft picks anyway.
Ooops, just saw the post above.
I am not concerned about any of these, although Leonard Davis is a little surprising. He's been pretty solid despite his issues last year, but I guess he isn't worth it with the new cap.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
i see jerry making a big move thats good and that's getting Nnadmi. i hope to god jerry doesn't go after moss or burress. those be horrible mistakes.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
He did!
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MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
Nice. Now about that Irvin mag cover....
you forgot to add 'talking' to your list
i agree. gotta give him credit for the article...i'd have gone a different direction with that cover photo though.
Yes, he is good. Watch him more closely once the season opens up. He is pretty solid.
I'm happy we re-signed Kosier as well. Now let's go out and get Jenkins and a good S and we are set!
I don't know about this season. We have all had our expectations built up over the years only to be disappointed. But this year feels like a rebuilding year to me. They just lost two starters on the OL. Gurode is starting off on the PUP list. The starting receivers are Ausin and Dez Bryant. I love Austin, but can he be the #1 guy? I always thought he benefited from being overlooked by the defense.
They have big issues at RB. Can Felix Jones go back to what he was in 2009? Can he carry the load as the starting RB?
And then there is the defense. The defense was such a problem last year and I see pretty much the same crew out there this year.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
The big difference is that we don't have the cupcake running the D this year! That is an improvement in itself, lol.
True. And I think Rex will make a HUGE difference. But my main gripe is that they don't have any impact players other than Ware and maybe Ratliff. If you took Butler, Olshansky, Brooking, Bradie James, Newman (at this point), Church, etc. and replaced them all with guys off the street would we notice a big difference? James goes through streaks where you never hear his name called.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
signed with the rams