I’m just wondering were the bad taste for America and its citizen comes from? And the total disrespect for the law....who is teaching you that you can pick and choose which laws you want to follow?.....I have only come across one other person in my life time that hates this country as much as you and I caulked that up to his youth....
Wow, Hates this country now how did you come up with that statement?
Peace
I'd love to know that too. I'd also love to know more about this poor guy who she caulked! :shock:
I don't know maybe he was a dry wall or window installer?
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
So there was a misunderstanding with the protesters/police and water bottles were thrown a MISTAKE. Surly you understand a mistake right sort of like when you wrote AR thinking that was the abbreviation for Arizona (AZ) which you quietly changed to the correct abbreviation.
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I changed it because it became the point of the post...because no one wants to admit that the protest became violent......ok it was a mistake they became violent.......but I have to say the protesters are a lot like others on here by jumping to conclusion and twisting it into something it’s not.....example: the police were arresting someone so the protesters assumed the guy was innocent? Even if the guy was innocent I don’t think it is protocol to throw bottles at policemen....in fact I think that is against the law....they should have started with the tear gas when that started....but they won’t because they will then be labeled racist.... The same way people are labeled racist when they disagree with the president...
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
I’m just wondering were the bad taste for America and its citizen comes from? And the total disrespect for the law....who is teaching you that you can pick and choose which laws you want to follow?.....I have only come across one other person in my life time that hates this country as much as you and I caulked that up to his youth....
Wow, Hates this country now how did you come up with that statement?
Peace
I'd love to know that too. I'd also love to know more about this poor guy who she caulked! :shock:[/quote]
[ I don't know maybe he was a dry wall or window installer?
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“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
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So there was a misunderstanding with the protesters/police and water bottles were thrown a MISTAKE. Surly you understand a mistake right sort of like when you wrote AR thinking that was the abbreviation for Arizona (AZ) which you quietly changed to the correct abbreviation.
Peace
I changed it because it became the point of the post...because no one wants to admit that the protest became violent......ok it was a mistake they became violent.......but I have to say the protesters are a lot like others on here by jumping to conclusion and twisting it into something it’s not.....example: the police were arresting someone so the protesters assumed the guy was innocent? Even if the guy was innocent I don’t think it is protocol to throw bottles at policemen....in fact I think that is against the law....they should have started with the tear gas when that started....but they won’t because they will then be labeled racist.... The same way people are labeled racist when they disagree with the president...
You know you're confusing. Where do you get this idea if you disagree with the President you're racist. I disagree with the President, I didn't vote for the President remember and I know I'm not racist or anyone else who did so and I'll assume that includes you too.
Yes you needed to change you thread title because many were thinking they were protests of this bill in Arkansas.
peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I changed it because it became the point of the post...because no one wants to admit that the protest became violent......ok it was a mistake they became violent.......but I have to say the protesters are a lot like others on here by jumping to conclusion and twisting it into something it’s not.....example: the police were arresting someone so the protesters assumed the guy was innocent? Even if the guy was innocent I don’t think it is protocol to throw bottles at policemen....in fact I think that is against the law....they should have started with the tear gas when that started....but they won’t because they will then be labeled racist.... The same way people are labeled racist when they disagree with the president...
Why don't you acknowledge that the protesters in the civil disobedience video were not violent and then people will be more likely to take you seriously and discuss the bottle-throwing?
They should have started with the TEAR GAS?? Are you serious? And you wonder why people are afraid when people like you get onto a police force? They didn't throw tear gas at thousands of peaceful protesters when a couple of them threw bottles because to do so would have created an even less safe environment and violated the civil rights of the thousands of other people who did nothing wrong! And you know what? If it was the fear of being labeled as racist that is all that kept the police from tear gassing a bunch of innocent people - probably including children and the elderly - then maybe that fear is a good thing.
I’m just wondering were the bad taste for America and its citizen comes from? And the total disrespect for the law....who is teaching you that you can pick and choose which laws you want to follow?.....I have only come across one other person in my life time that hates this country as much as you and I caulked that up to his youth....
You are very delusional at times
why do you immigrants are the only ones breaking laws?
I bet that all of us this board pick and choose what laws to obey and break on a daily basis.
Have you drove to fast in your car, jay walked, turned without your blinker, maybe drove after one to many beers, let your dog shit on someone's lawn and left it there, realized that a cashier didn't charge you for something but still walked out the door with it..... the list goes on,
I suspect that you break at least one of those daily, why do you have disregard for the law?
No sound answers so everyone has to deflect from the actual topic as usual..........
No violence in the video were the people were chained to the building ok scb?....isn’t that a bit crazy to do?........are they uneducated or what? That’s no way to change the law.....looks like they just wanted to be on the news
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
No sound answers so everyone has to deflect from the actual topic as usual..........
No violence in the video were the people were chained to the building ok scb?....isn’t that a bit crazy to do?........are they uneducated or what? That’s no way to change the law.....looks like they just wanted to be on the news
I’m just wondering were the bad taste for America and its citizen comes from? And the total disrespect for the law....who is teaching you that you can pick and choose which laws you want to follow?.....I have only come across one other person in my life time that hates this country as much as you and I caulked that up to his youth....
You are very delusional at times
why do you immigrants are the only ones breaking laws?
I bet that all of us this board pick and choose what laws to obey and break on a daily basis.
Have you drove to fast in your car, jay walked, turned without your blinker, maybe drove after one to many beers, let your dog shit on someone's lawn and left it there, realized that a cashier didn't charge you for something but still walked out the door with it..... the list goes on,
I suspect that you break at least one of those daily, why do you have disregard for the law?
I never said immigrants are the only ones breaking the law....what I am trying to say is some on here are giving them a pass to break the law...yet when there is a Tea Party protest completly non-violent and no laws broken they still get accused of hate and violence and called names that surely are unwarranted
example:
Low IQ’s
dumb
puppets
racist
bigots
uncle toms
1) Tetley Testes
(2) Cranial bean baggers
(3) Earl Grey Scrotumfaces
(4) Balls on Face Party
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
No sound answers so everyone has to deflect from the actual topic as usual..........
No violence in the video were the people were chained to the building ok scb?....isn’t that a bit crazy to do?........are they uneducated or what? That’s no way to change the law.....looks like they just wanted to be on the news
sorry but your thread lost all credibility with me when you said there was violence and hate at a protest in ARkansas and your video showed neither violence nor hate. peaceful protest is actually legal is it not? face it aerial you are fighting a losing batte. i saw what the video showed and i saw no violence. stop making an issue out of things when the protest was peaceful. and you say these people just want to be on the news? come on, i am guessing you have never felt passionate enough about something to put your own health and safety at risk? people have chained themselves to trees that were going to be deforested. i have protested the war and yelled at police with riot gear and weapons before. what have you done? would you ever do that? i did not want to be on tv, i wanted to stand up for what i believed in. and if they rolled a tank in like they did in tianamen square i would have stood in front of it because i felt that passionately about what i was doing. putting yourself at personal risk and lobbing teabags are quite different aerial.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
I don't know....would you explain it again please.
It's not only illegal immigrants who will be harassed for papers. It's anyone who APPEARS to be an illegal immigrant. That includes LEGAL immigrants and US CITIZENS.
Exactly...
For example, if a law like this was envoked in BC against people who seemed like they could be "illegal immigrants" my father would have to carry around papers, my boyfriend would have to carry around papers, my boss would have to carry around papers, my coworker would have to carry around papers, one of my best friends would have to carry around papers.... the list goes on, and all would be stopped just because they LOOK lke they "may" be illegal...
japanese Guatemalan Indian Filipino Chinese... they all are legal but could be stopped and harassed. that's not fair at all.
They would not be stopped just because of what they look like. The law states that if they are pulled over questioned about anything they were doing, like speeding or whatever, they have a right to ask for proof of citizenship. And you make it sound like everyone is going to have to carry a briefcase around with them. I think people are being a little over-dramatic. If I got stopped and they asked for papers, I would take them out of my wallet or glove box and show it to them. No big deal.
I’m just wondering were the bad taste for America and its citizen comes from? And the total disrespect for the law....who is teaching you that you can pick and choose which laws you want to follow?.....I have only come across one other person in my life time that hates this country as much as you and I caulked that up to his youth....
You are very delusional at times
why do you immigrants are the only ones breaking laws?
I bet that all of us this board pick and choose what laws to obey and break on a daily basis.
Have you drove to fast in your car, jay walked, turned without your blinker, maybe drove after one to many beers, let your dog shit on someone's lawn and left it there, realized that a cashier didn't charge you for something but still walked out the door with it..... the list goes on,
I suspect that you break at least one of those daily, why do you have disregard for the law?
I never said immigrants are the only ones breaking the law....what I am trying to say is some on here are giving them a pass to break the law...yet when there is a Tea Party protest completly non-violent and no laws broken they still get accused of hate and violence and called names that surely are unwarranted
example:
Low IQ’s
dumb
puppets
racist
bigots
uncle toms
1) Tetley Testes
(2) Cranial bean baggers
(3) Earl Grey Scrotumfaces
(4) Balls on Face Party
what about that is not true? i can justify the rationale behind calling tea partiers every one of those things, except for the four that you put numbers by because i have never heard those terms. do you even know what an uncle tom is aerial?? and yes there can be white uncle toms so dont call me a racist thank you very much....
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
No sound answers so everyone has to deflect from the actual topic as usual..........
No violence in the video were the people were chained to the building ok scb?....isn’t that a bit crazy to do?........are they uneducated or what? That’s no way to change the law.....looks like they just wanted to be on the news
sorry but your thread lost all credibility with me when you said there was violence and hate at a protest in ARkansas and your video showed neither violence nor hate. peaceful protest is actually legal is it not? face it aerial you are fighting a losing batte. i saw what the video showed and i saw no violence. stop making an issue out of things when the protest was peaceful. and you say these people just want to be on the news? come on, i am guessing you have never felt passionate enough about something to put your own health and safety at risk? people have chained themselves to trees that were going to be deforested. i have protested the war and yelled at police with riot gear and weapons before. what have you done? would you ever do that? i did not want to be on tv, i wanted to stand up for what i believed in. and if they rolled a tank in like they did in tianamen square i would have stood in front of it because i felt that passionately about what i was doing. putting yourself at personal risk and lobbing teabags are quite different aerial.
I've seen the video with the bottle hitting the cop in the back of the head. It was on the news.
No sound answers so everyone has to deflect from the actual topic as usual..........
No violence in the video were the people were chained to the building ok scb?....isn’t that a bit crazy to do?........are they uneducated or what? That’s no way to change the law.....looks like they just wanted to be on the news
sorry but your thread lost all credibility with me when you said there was violence and hate at a protest in ARkansas and your video showed neither violence nor hate. peaceful protest is actually legal is it not? face it aerial you are fighting a losing batte. i saw what the video showed and i saw no violence. stop making an issue out of things when the protest was peaceful. and you say these people just want to be on the news? come on, i am guessing you have never felt passionate enough about something to put your own health and safety at risk? people have chained themselves to trees that were going to be deforested. i have protested the war and yelled at police with riot gear and weapons before. what have you done? would you ever do that? i did not want to be on tv, i wanted to stand up for what i believed in. and if they rolled a tank in like they did in tianamen square i would have stood in front of it because i felt that passionately about what i was doing. putting yourself at personal risk and lobbing teabags are quite different aerial.
I've seen the video with the bottle hitting the cop in the back of the head. It was on the news.
can you provide a link and maybe shed some light on this?
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Not that hard, all you gotta do is youtube it. but here it is. By the way, you don't see this shit at any of the tea parties that you claim are so racist and violent.
If I got stopped and they asked for papers, I would take them out of my wallet or glove box and show it to them. No big deal.
What is it that you would pull out of your wallet? You carry around your birth certificate and/or passport with you every where you go?!?!?
If it was a law....ummm, yes. Shouldn't be a problem for women, carrying purses and all.
A few examples off the top of my head when i would not think it best to carry passport.... Running. Beach. Pool. I go to the beach a lot. Glad I don't have to leave my passport sitting at my blanket... and if it got stolen? Then how would I prove myself legal?
All the more reason why it seems as though an implanted AMERICAN chip would be the best way to enforce these laws... but I'm sure no one here would support THAT... Sounds so... UN-AMERICAN! :shock:
Well, if you were at the beach, pool, or jogging how would you be breaking the law to begin with. They have to have a reason to approach somebody. Speeding, running a stop sign, drug dealing, stolen car, kidapping someone, murder suspect etc.....
By the way, when your at the beach, do you wear a thong?
Not that hard, all you gotta do is youtube it. but here it is. By the way, you don't see this shit at any of the tea parties that you claim are so racist and violent.
I wanted to post that one but I knew they would discredit it because it was on FOX........
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
Not that hard, all you gotta do is youtube it. but here it is. By the way, you don't see this shit at any of the tea parties that you claim are so racist and violent.
I believe Gimmie is a racist......towards the white american male conservative/republican.
I'm trying to keep up with the multiple comments but this statement makes me laugh Now if I could just keep up.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
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If I got stopped and they asked for papers, I would take them out of my wallet or glove box and show it to them. No big deal.
What is it that you would pull out of your wallet? You carry around your birth certificate and/or passport with you every where you go?!?!?
I bet you he won't be carrying around his birth certificate or his passport because this is not an issue that is going to impose on him very much. I might have to since I'm spending a month in (AZ) Arizona this summer.
peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
i would much rather be inconvenienced by having to show papers...oh my god...than getting shot by a drug runner with an AK-47. how come we do not question the rights that were violated of innocent people who were killed by illegal immigrants not only in Arizona but Texas as well? so i ask again, how would all the people who oppose this legislation prevent this from happening?
....I have only come across one other person in my life time that hates this country as much as you and I caulked that up to his youth....
Sounds a lot more to me like she loves the country and wants to stay true to some of the core values on which it was founded.... more like she's pledging her grievance to the flag.....
Interesting take on things... are you really a Pearl Jam fan?
I pledge my grievance to the flag
Cause you don't give blood... to take it back again
Oh we're all deserving something more
Progress,... taste it,... invest-it-all
Champagne breakfast for everyone
Break the innocent when they're proud...
Raise the stakes,... then bring em down...
If they fail to obey... oh if they fail to obey
Pledge your grievance to the flag
Cause you don't give blood... then take it back again
Oh we're all deserving something more.
No violence in the video were the people were chained to the building ok scb?....isn’t that a bit crazy to do?........are they uneducated or what? That’s no way to change the law.....looks like they just wanted to be on the news
You really should stop calling people names. You particularly shouldn't talk shit about people when you're the one making the mistakes.
In this case, it's you who is uneducated, not them. Blocking, chaining oneself to, and/or occupying a building is a common and historically significant method of civil disobedience. And civil disobedience has changed MANY laws. Ever hear of Gandhi and the independence of India from British colonial rule? Ever hear of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and the American civil rights movement? Give me your address and I'll send you a history book for your birthday.
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Maybe it's some kind of sex game. :shock:
I'd love to know that too. I'd also love to know more about this poor guy who she caulked! :shock:[/quote]
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You know you're confusing. Where do you get this idea if you disagree with the President you're racist. I disagree with the President, I didn't vote for the President remember and I know I'm not racist or anyone else who did so and I'll assume that includes you too.
Yes you needed to change you thread title because many were thinking they were protests of this bill in Arkansas.
peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Why don't you acknowledge that the protesters in the civil disobedience video were not violent and then people will be more likely to take you seriously and discuss the bottle-throwing?
They should have started with the TEAR GAS?? Are you serious? And you wonder why people are afraid when people like you get onto a police force? They didn't throw tear gas at thousands of peaceful protesters when a couple of them threw bottles because to do so would have created an even less safe environment and violated the civil rights of the thousands of other people who did nothing wrong! And you know what? If it was the fear of being labeled as racist that is all that kept the police from tear gassing a bunch of innocent people - probably including children and the elderly - then maybe that fear is a good thing.
You are very delusional at times
why do you immigrants are the only ones breaking laws?
I bet that all of us this board pick and choose what laws to obey and break on a daily basis.
Have you drove to fast in your car, jay walked, turned without your blinker, maybe drove after one to many beers, let your dog shit on someone's lawn and left it there, realized that a cashier didn't charge you for something but still walked out the door with it..... the list goes on,
I suspect that you break at least one of those daily, why do you have disregard for the law?
No violence in the video were the people were chained to the building ok scb?....isn’t that a bit crazy to do?........are they uneducated or what? That’s no way to change the law.....looks like they just wanted to be on the news
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? :shock:
example:
Low IQ’s
dumb
puppets
racist
bigots
uncle toms
1) Tetley Testes
(2) Cranial bean baggers
(3) Earl Grey Scrotumfaces
(4) Balls on Face Party
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
They would not be stopped just because of what they look like. The law states that if they are pulled over questioned about anything they were doing, like speeding or whatever, they have a right to ask for proof of citizenship. And you make it sound like everyone is going to have to carry a briefcase around with them. I think people are being a little over-dramatic. If I got stopped and they asked for papers, I would take them out of my wallet or glove box and show it to them. No big deal.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
ya tough guy.[/quote]
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there is a quote feature you know, so people can tell who you are talking to...
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I believe Gimmie is a racist......towards the white american male conservative/republican.
I've seen the video with the bottle hitting the cop in the back of the head. It was on the news.
do you have anything constructive to contribute to the thread? probably not so i don't know why i'm even asking...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Not really, just hanging out.
What is it that you would pull out of your wallet? You carry around your birth certificate and/or passport with you every where you go?!?!?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgZDYNQEwlM
If it was a law....ummm, yes. Shouldn't be a problem for women, carrying purses and all.
A few examples off the top of my head when i would not think it best to carry passport.... Running. Beach. Pool. I go to the beach a lot. Glad I don't have to leave my passport sitting at my blanket... and if it got stolen? Then how would I prove myself legal?
All the more reason why it seems as though an implanted AMERICAN chip would be the best way to enforce these laws... but I'm sure no one here would support THAT... Sounds so... UN-AMERICAN! :shock:
By the way, when your at the beach, do you wear a thong?
I feel sorry for people that don't watch FOX
Although I haven't watched in a while. I like Becks radio show better. Him and Pat are a freakin riot.
I'm trying to keep up with the multiple comments but this statement makes me laugh
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I bet you he won't be carrying around his birth certificate or his passport because this is not an issue that is going to impose on him very much. I might have to since I'm spending a month in (AZ) Arizona this summer.
peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Sounds a lot more to me like she loves the country and wants to stay true to some of the core values on which it was founded.... more like she's pledging her grievance to the flag.....
Interesting take on things... are you really a Pearl Jam fan?
I pledge my grievance to the flag
Cause you don't give blood... to take it back again
Oh we're all deserving something more
Progress,... taste it,... invest-it-all
Champagne breakfast for everyone
Break the innocent when they're proud...
Raise the stakes,... then bring em down...
If they fail to obey... oh if they fail to obey
Pledge your grievance to the flag
Cause you don't give blood... then take it back again
Oh we're all deserving something more.
Huh? I'm not even sure what the topic is any more. Rest assured though, if I find out what it is I'll give you a sound answer.
You really should stop calling people names. You particularly shouldn't talk shit about people when you're the one making the mistakes.
In this case, it's you who is uneducated, not them. Blocking, chaining oneself to, and/or occupying a building is a common and historically significant method of civil disobedience. And civil disobedience has changed MANY laws. Ever hear of Gandhi and the independence of India from British colonial rule? Ever hear of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and the American civil rights movement? Give me your address and I'll send you a history book for your birthday.