Protest shows violence and hate in AZ

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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    LOL

    Way to play the race card.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,459
    unsung wrote:
    LOL

    Way to play the race card.
    you play it with nearly every post...the white american male supremacy card...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • jg1988
    jg1988 Posts: 181
    There is no issue with paying for AMERICANS to be on welfare, since there will always be a percentage of the population in any country in poverty, even the wealthiest country in the world. I do not like the idea of having illegal immigrants who do NOT pay into the system getting benefits. I think its just to easy and convenient for you to pin anyone who disagrees with your views as a racist. Its a good tactic, but has no basis.
  • _
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    unsung wrote:
    scb wrote:
    Someone (maybe it was unsung?) in another thread the other day said this law shouldn't be a problem because everyone should just carry their documentation in their cars! Can you imagine?! No one's documentation OR cars would be safe!

    Nice try but I didn't say that.

    Nice try but I didn't say you said that.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    scb wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    I'd wear it like a badge of honor if it meant illegals were booted from the country.

    I'm sure you wouldn't mind carrying them around, however with you having to wear that badge of honor all the time comes the possibility of losing those precious documents or stolen. Therefore leaving you with them and facing the possibility of being questioned and NOT having those precious badges of honor. You may come out fine after being questioned but imagine a Hispanic American with lost papers might NOT turn out as well as you.

    Peace

    Someone (maybe it was unsung?) in another thread the other day said this law shouldn't be a problem because everyone should just carry their documentation in their cars! Can you imagine?! No one's documentation OR cars would be safe!

    We will then see the rise in priorty to get these documents by trying to steal by those who ARE citzens to be sold to those who aren't. I'm REALLY now looking forward for a month I'm spending in Phoenix this summer. i better make sure my passport is still valid.

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  • _
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    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i'm pretty sure it would like that, but most likely it would be an american flag or something....
    Makes sense, since you already have to wear an American flag to prove you're a patriot.

    EDIT TO ADD:
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
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  • _
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    unsung wrote:
    You fail to see the big picture where this all leads.

    One could easily say the same thing about your response here:
    unsung wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    a badge like this?
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  • _
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    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i do not fail to see the big picture. i see through your racism. so the fuck what if these people can become citizens??? so fucking what?? you act like there are not americans born into poverty here every fucking day. they are low income, most likely not skilled since they can not find a job tht pays more than minimum wage, they qualify for medicare, medicaid, social security and other social services benefits. what about them?

    Maybe he would like to see them be subjected to forced sterilization, since he frequently talks about how they're all irresponsible for getting pregnant. (Maybe not... but it wouldn't surprise me.)
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    its people like you who feel you are better than everyone else because you were lucky enough to have been born here that absolutely disgust me.

    +1 :clap:
  • Brock Samson
    Brock Samson Posts: 328
    scb wrote:
    moe.ron wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    "Protest shows violence and hate in AR"??

    based on the thread title, i thought this thread was supposed to be about violent protests in Arkansas.....isn't the proper abbreviation for Arizona AZ???

    seriously.....are you and scb really that stupid to not realize it was a typo? get the fuck over it already.

    Read the rest of her posts and give me one reason to believe it was just a typo. I'm sure the post about civil disobedience being violent was just a typo too, right (even though she came back and reiterated it)? :roll:

    And the reason I gave her shit about it is because SHE WAS GIVING ME SHIT for saying I hadn't heard about the violence in Arkansas. At that point she had not mentioned AZ anywhere, so I actually thought she meant AR. I'm from AR, so I wanted to know what was up. I'm just saying she shouldn't start shit with people when it was HER mistake. Maybe she should have gotten the fuck over it. And maybe you should too.

    EDIT TO ADD: I find it pretty funny that she's being defended by someone named moe.ron. :lol:

    don't need to read over it again. i read it the first time, saw what the thread title said, realized what the abbreviation should have been. typo.

    i'm not really defending anything she's saying, just asking you and gimme if you honestly didn't realize it was a typo. obviously, i thought you two were smarter than that. well, at least i thought you were. not a big fan of gimme, personally. don't really like how he comes off with the majority of his posts.
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    ok whatever twat...based on her mouthbreather posts i figured that is what she really meant..

    you know, i figured you'd come up with some kind of name....wasn't counting on twat. thanks, much appreciated.
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  • _
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    moe.ron wrote:
    i'm not really defending anything she's saying, just asking you and gimme if you honestly didn't realize it was a typo. obviously, i thought you two were smarter than that. well, at least i thought you were. not a big fan of gimme, personally. don't really like how he comes off with the majority of his posts.

    I actually gave her the benefit of the doubt and thought she meant what she said. That's why I replied and said I didn't know anything about it. Then when I logged back in later and saw that she had posted videos from Arizona, she had already attacked me for not knowing about the events she was referring to, even though it was HER mistake that she referred to events that never happened.

    Please don't suggest that I must not be smart if I didn't automatically assume she made a mistake. It's not really obvious unless you expect mistakes from her. If she had said AX, I would have thought it was a typo. But AR is an actual state.

    Honestly, I don't think it was a typo anyway. I think she thought AR was the abbreviation for Arizona. (This isn't uncommon, but it's not a good position from which to make fun of someone else.) Not only are the R & Z not close to each other on the keyboard, as someone already pointed out, but this kind of mistake is consistent with the multitude of other posts I've read from her on this board.
  • GTFLYGIRL
    GTFLYGIRL NewYork Posts: 788
    moe.ron wrote:
    don't need to read over it again. i read it the first time, saw what the thread title said, realized what the abbreviation should have been. typo.

    OK. So... If you saw THIS POST that I have slightly altered and cut and pasted.... would you assume the poster meant NEW MEXICO? Or would you figure there were protesters protesting in New York?

    If you say anything different... other than you would figure she meant NY... I call bullshit!

    Protest shows violence and hate in NY
    by aerial » 30 Apr 2010 18:10

    No comments on the violence and hate for authority from the protesters protesting the new immigration law? Throwing water bottles at police.
    Where’s the media? Still reporting lies.....
    Here is how CNN reported the violence

    CNN-Chanting "Yes we can," waving American flags and holding signs reading "We have rights" and "We are human," demonstrators kept up a festive spirit as they denounced the bill signed Friday by Gov. Jan Brewer.

    Festive Spirit? WTF
  • KDH12
    KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    unsung wrote:
    You fail to see the big picture where this all leads. All legislation attempts for any type of immigration "reform" contain language to make these illegal aliens citizens. Most are low income, non skilled laborers who will then qualify for food stamps, medicare, SS benefits, and other social services and welfare.

    Now I recognize the need for this type of labor, however they should be filling out the temporary work visas and returning home when their jobs are done. Examples include seasonal work, construction, farm work, fruit harvesters. Now if they followed the law I'd have no problem with them, as you say.

    So yes you are right I worry about tax dollars first.

    I am opposed to a work visa system that asks "them" to go home for a few months a year unless it comes with a direct, expedited path to citizenship

    it seems wrong to say you can stay a few months we need your labor, will collect your tax dollars but once the apples are picked you got to go home...... it is the same thing we got now they just wouldn't have to jump a fence to get here
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,459
    moe.ron wrote:

    i'm not really defending anything she's saying, just asking you and gimme if you honestly didn't realize it was a typo. obviously, i thought you two were smarter than that. well, at least i thought you were. not a big fan of gimme, personally. don't really like how he comes off with the majority of his posts.
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    ok whatever twat...based on her mouthbreather posts i figured that is what she really meant..

    you know, i figured you'd come up with some kind of name....wasn't counting on twat. thanks, much appreciated.
    i really thought she meant arkansas. it wouldn't surprise me if she thought the abbreviation for AZ was actually AR. and i don't care if you like me or not. i don't mince words and i say what i feel. i am not sorry if that rubs you the wrong way. i'm not here to make friends.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    I dislike the idea of illegal immigrants getting away with living here and sucking out of the public system... My father is an immigrant and I know a lot of people who have moved here legally and gone through the process. Its not fair for them to have to wait their turn when others jump the line. Then again, some people might not have access to the same opportunities to come over... A rich businessman in Shanghai will certainly be able to immigrate legally but a poor man elsewhere may not have the means to a better life...

    Anyways, I guess part of the issue is the carrying around documents. If immigrants have to do it then all citizens have to do it, hten how else is it not racial profiling? Will the police not ask a dutch immigrant or french immigrant?

    I guess because I come from Vancouver - a very mutlicultural area - I find it interesting. If we did that with our Chinese population or our Indian population there would be an absolute uproar.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,459
    jasongoz wrote:
    There is no issue with paying for AMERICANS to be on welfare, since there will always be a percentage of the population in any country in poverty, even the wealthiest country in the world. I do not like the idea of having illegal immigrants who do NOT pay into the system getting benefits. I think its just to easy and convenient for you to pin anyone who disagrees with your views as a racist. Its a good tactic, but has no basis.
    they pay into the system with paying sales tax. if they pay rent and utilities there is some tax in that. unsung says the bill paves the way for these illegals to becoem citizens and i said who cares, if they become citizens then they are citizens. i pin everyone that supports racial profiling and wants brown people out of the country and supports the arizona law racists.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • jg1988
    jg1988 Posts: 181
    brown people? surely you are not racist.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,459
    jasongoz wrote:
    brown people? surely you are not racist.
    are you talking to me?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,459
    i see the thread title has now been changed to reflect ariZona vs aRkansas....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • GTFLYGIRL
    GTFLYGIRL NewYork Posts: 788
    Hey aerial... I'm curious as to why you posted this....
    http://video.aol.ca/video-detail/studen ... IDURVNWS04

    When you see this, what emotion does it evoke within you? Anger and hatred? You don't "feel for" these young people willing to be handcuffed arrested and prosecuted because they see how this law will effect their little brothers and sisters (i.e. think how horrible.... if they were born here in the US to "illegals" and end up parentless...) their parents, grandparents, brothers, sisters, friends.... and more... harassed, living in fear....etc..... the implicit racism...You don't "feel for them" for having the courage to stand up in such a way, for what they believe is right and just?

    Reminds me of a song from the most socially conscious band I know. A band that encourages their listeners and their fans to support causes they believe in and use the "power of the people" to fight social injustice... A band of activists...
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    I will light the match this morning, so I won't be alone
    Watch as she lies silent, for soon light will be gone
    Oh I will stand arms outstretched, pretend I'm free to roam
    Oh I will make my way, through, one more day in...hell

    How much difference does it make
    How much difference does it make...

    I will hold the candle, till it burns up my arm
    I'll keep takin' punches, until their will grows tired
    Oh I will stare the sun down, until my eyes go blind
    Hey I won't change direction, and I won't change my mind

    how much difference does it make
    how much difference does it make..
    how much difference...

    I'll swallow poison, until I grow immune
    I will scream my lungs out till it fills this room

    How much difference
    How much difference
    How much difference does it make
    How much difference does it make...
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    LOL

    Way to play the race card.
    you play it with nearly every post...the white american male supremacy card...[/quot

    So let me make sure I got this right.
    If I don't support the release of terorists from gitmo....i'm a racist.
    If I support searching certain people at airports because they fit a profile....i'm a racist.
    If I don't support ILLEGAL immigration rights in America.....i'm a racist.
    If I support smaller government and less government spending......i'm a racist.
    If I don't support Obama and all he does.....i'm a racist.
    And.....if I am a white american male........i'm a racist.

    How about you stop calling people a racist just because they do not fucking agree with YOU!

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