Boycott Anything Involving AZ

Dirtie_Frank

tonifig8 wrote:

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

tonifig8 wrote:

Let's drop this whole going back and forth - It is clear that some people are not willing to help with a beneficial solution- Some of you keep posting the same things over and over, but are not willing to help find a good solution, other then round them all up and ship them back to Mexico, which we both know is impossible..

My final comments on this Bill:
-The bill was introduced by people who are directly associated with White Supremacist groups, yet some of you on the board don't care.
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The people who introduced the bill are directly associated with white supremacist groups.... White Supremacist groups donated 1 million dollars to this cause.... Have you not followed the debate here? I'm not saying that all white people are racist! Get that through your head.... If this was only based on protection of our boarders, then they shouldn't accept any Fu@!ing money from white supremacist groups...then people who introduced the bill shouldn't be related to racist groups.... Do you get the point????

The POTUS had direct association with a racist too Rev Wright that did not seem to matter then, but it seems to be a big deal now with this association. :roll:

Boxes&Books

The people who introduced the bill are directly associated with white supremacist groups.... White Supremacist groups donated 1 million dollars to this cause.... Have you not followed the debate here? I'm not saying that all white people are racist! Get that through your head.... If this was only based on protection of our boarders, then they shouldn't accept any Fu@!ing money from white supremacist groups...then people who introduced the bill shouldn't be related to racist groups.... Do you get the point????

The POTUS had direct association with a racist too Rev Wright that did not seem to matter then, but it seems to be a big deal now with this association. :roll:

Dude,
that is B freaking S! And what does that have to do with what we are talking about now? Are we going to use every example of our history to continue to stop progress? Because if that is the case I could go on all day with the real fu@!ing B. fu@!ing S.! that Republican's and Democrats have committed against our country!

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Godfather. wrote:

so ya think that farmer that got killed had nothing to with it ?
and as always the racism angle.
what if the farmer was a mexican and a white guy killed him........RACISM !!!!!!

Godfather.

If the farmer was Mexican and a white guy killed him, it wouldn't have inspired such a bill.

Dirtie_Frank

tonifig8 wrote:

The people who introduced the bill are directly associated with white supremacist groups.... White Supremacist groups donated 1 million dollars to this cause.... Have you not followed the debate here? I'm not saying that all white people are racist! Get that through your head.... If this was only based on protection of our boarders, then they shouldn't accept any Fu@!ing money from white supremacist groups...then people who introduced the bill shouldn't be related to racist groups.... Do you get the point????

The POTUS had direct association with a racist too Rev Wright that did not seem to matter then, but it seems to be a big deal now with this association. :roll:

Dude,
that is B freaking S! And what does that have to do with what we are talking about now? Are we going to use every example of our history to continue to stop progress? Because if that is the case I could go on all day with the real fu@!ing B. fu@!ing S.! that Republican's and Democrats have committed against our country!

I bet they are all white too :roll:

Godfather.

one of the points in this is that racism is always brought in to the picture,it's alway used as a tool to
gain support and thats another form of racism I would say.
IMO the people crying racism the most are guilty of racism their selfs.

Godfather.

Godfather.

I also have question,
when the latino people try debunk this new law did they get any funding from a latino rights group ?
or do latino rights groups contribute any money to a latino politician ?........ummmm
RACISM !!!!!!!!!

Godfather.

Boxes&Books

The POTUS had direct association with a racist too Rev Wright that did not seem to matter then, but it seems to be a big deal now with this association. :roll:

Even if this statement were true, the president denounced Rev. Wright. Which would mean, according to your assumption that the president was involved with a racist, denounced the racism and made it public that he did not support such language.

Now do you denounce this bill, based on the Fact that it was introduced by Hate?
Not saying that we don't have an immigration issue, but that this was created on the bases of hate for other races.

Boxes&Books

Godfather. wrote:

I also have question,
when the latino people try debunk this new law did they get any funding from a latino rights group ?
or do latino rights groups contribute any money to a latino politician ?........ummmm
RACISM !!!!!!!!!

Godfather.

I am Mexican American tell me which groups are racist- and if they are I will denounce them here on the board- I do not belong to any organization that promotes anyone race as superior! I do not belong to any organization period! I would not support any group that promotes HATE.

I understand now that you support hate, based on the fact that you don't care that this bill was introduced by people who promote hate!

Therefore your a fu@!ing racist!

Boxes&Books

I bet they are all white too :roll:

Stop your denial - the facts are the facts - I am not accusing no one race of racism, with the exception of white supremacist groups- We were clearly using historical fact, our general history, and our progress here.

This bill doesn't solve SH@! it only creates division, period! The police cannot deport anyone they still need to hand them over to the FEDS- The FEDS are overload with serious criminals..... and all of this will cost money and waste a lot of time building HATE.... You don't understand do you.....
Everyone here is acknowledging that we have a problem, everyone here wants to protect the boarders, everyone here understand your concerns on protecting the White culture(not America's), and no one is trying to take any of your freedoms away. We want a solution that is humane and will be beneficial to the country..... But you want every person out!!! Which is impossible you bigot!!

This thread is about progress and about finding solutions ..... if you can't handle that I would encourage you to start a thread based on hate and support for these white supremacist groups! After all it is what it is..... and you have made that clear

unsung

tonifig8 wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

I also have question,
when the latino people try debunk this new law did they get any funding from a latino rights group ?
or do latino rights groups contribute any money to a latino politician ?........ummmm
RACISM !!!!!!!!!

Godfather.

I am Mexican American tell me which groups are racist- and if they are I will denounce them here on the board- I do not belong to any organization that promotes anyone race as superior! I do not belong to any organization period! I would not support any group that promotes HATE.

I understand now that you support hate, based on the fact that you don't care that this bill was introduced by people who promote hate!

Therefore your a fu@!ing racist!

I support this bill because the federal government will not do anything to help Arizona out. I do not support any reform that has amnesty in it because most of those that would be rewarded are low earners that are uneducated and can't do anything other than unskilled labor such as being a dishwasher at a restaurant. Since they make so little in income they would qualify for SS benefits along with other types of welfare. Their income is low enough that they would avoid paying an amount of taxes to make up for it therefore they are a net drain on the system.

And to answer the other question about a group being racist check La Raza.

Boxes&Books

unsung wrote:

tonifig8 wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

I also have question,
when the latino people try debunk this new law did they get any funding from a latino rights group ?
or do latino rights groups contribute any money to a latino politician ?........ummmm
RACISM !!!!!!!!!

Godfather.

I am Mexican American tell me which groups are racist- and if they are I will denounce them here on the board- I do not belong to any organization that promotes anyone race as superior! I do not belong to any organization period! I would not support any group that promotes HATE.

I understand now that you support hate, based on the fact that you don't care that this bill was introduced by people who promote hate!

Therefore your a fu@!ing racist!

I support this bill because the federal government will not do anything to help Arizona out. I do not support any reform that has amnesty in it because most of those that would be rewarded are low earners that are uneducated and can't do anything other than unskilled labor such as being a dishwasher at a restaurant. Since they make so little in income they would qualify for SS benefits along with other types of welfare. Their income is low enough that they would avoid paying an amount of taxes to make up for it therefore they are a net drain on the system.

And to answer the other question about a group being racist check La Raza.

I don't support any racist groups or associate myself with any racist groups. I don't know crap about La Raza - Don't know what there objectives are or what they are currently involved in. If they are promoting HATE - I will denounce and reject anything tainted with them.......That is me being able to reason or to show my ability to promote fairness and progress.......
But you support the bill even though the main reason behind it was racism! I can't believe that..... This bill does nothing to solve the problem, it only creates more problems.....Don't you get that? Police officers CANNOT DEPORT PEOPLE!!! HELLO>>HELLO>> THE FEDS ARE STILL IN CONTROL!!!!
This bill was created by people associated with white supremacist groups ...that doesn't bother you???? Am I not an American Like you?????
This is a direct question to you!

Godfather.

tonifig8 wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

I also have question,
when the latino people try debunk this new law did they get any funding from a latino rights group ?
or do latino rights groups contribute any money to a latino politician ?........ummmm
RACISM !!!!!!!!!

Godfather.

I am Mexican American tell me which groups are racist- and if they are I will denounce them here on the board- I do not belong to any organization that promotes anyone race as superior! I do not belong to any organization period! I would not support any group that promotes HATE.

I understand now that you support hate, based on the fact that you don't care that this bill was introduced by people who promote hate!

Therefore your a fu@!ing racist!

theres that word again...told ya so
btw is it hate because the bill dose not allow illegals into the us ?
if thats what you believe then who is the racist here ?

Godfather.

Boxes&Books

theres that word again...told ya so
btw is it hate because the bill dose not allow illegals into the us ?
if thats what you believe then who is the racist here ?

Godfather.

I'm trying to stay away from the board, but I feel I have to explain this to you word by word before I could truly consider you a racist.

Are you that dumb?? When were illegals ever allowed into the US? Do you not understand what this bill does?
THE POLICE CANNOT DEPORT ANYONE!!!They will not serve as boarder agents...even though some of them might try...just to fu@! with people...... HELLO HELLO!! THEY STILL NEED TO TURN UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE TO THE FEDS!!!! All this does is promote hate, because it enforces police officers to become boarder agents (which by law they are not), with out receiving the proper training or the ability to do anything about anything, only thing they can do is arrest people and use there "judgment when profiling people. Basically they profile people and then take them over to the FEDS- HAVE YOU NOT READ any of my posts? are you seriously trying to argue this????
My question is direct do you support this bill even though it has been introduced by people affiliated with white supremacist groups? its very simple....

Dirtie_Frank

tonifig8 wrote:

The POTUS had direct association with a racist too Rev Wright that did not seem to matter then, but it seems to be a big deal now with this association. :roll:

Even if this statement were true, the president denounced Rev. Wright. Which would mean, according to your assumption that the president was involved with a racist, denounced the racism and made it public that he did not support such language.

Now do you denounce this bill, based on the Fact that it was introduced by Hate?
Not saying that we don't have an immigration issue, but that this was created on the bases of hate for other races.

You say even if it was true then pretty much say it is true. You are one confused individual..He denounced it when it meant something to him. After 20 years of the same preaching I think it sunk in a little.

Boxes&Books

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

tonifig8 wrote:

The POTUS had direct association with a racist too Rev Wright that did not seem to matter then, but it seems to be a big deal now with this association. :roll:

Even if this statement were true, the president denounced Rev. Wright. Which would mean, according to your assumption that the president was involved with a racist, denounced the racism and made it public that he did not support such language.

Now do you denounce this bill, based on the Fact that it was introduced by Hate?
Not saying that we don't have an immigration issue, but that this was created on the bases of hate for other races.

You say even if it was true then pretty much say it is true. You are one confused individual..He denounced it when it meant something to him. After 20 years of the same preaching I think it sunk in a little.

Your ignoring my direct question to you..... We are not debating the President here. .... Do you denounce this bill based on the many facts I have provide to you and the few others who seem to continue to support this bill....

53% of the 70% of people who voted for the bill feel there will be civil rights issues because of it..... yet they still supported it.

Do you denounce this bill based on the fact that it was created by people affiliated with white supremacists groups? And it really doesn't do anything, but create more division.... Police officers cannot deport anyone.... They have not been trained and now they are asked to use there best judgment when profiling illegal aliens. The Governor herself said that police officers would have to receive some kind of special training .... but what's the point its costing money and officers cannot do crap, except turn them over to the FEDS!!!!! And harass people.......
DIRECT QUESTIONED RELATED TO YOU AND I>>.

Godfather.

tonifig8 wrote:

theres that word again...told ya so
btw is it hate because the bill dose not allow illegals into the us ?
if thats what you believe then who is the racist here ?

Godfather.

I'm trying to stay away from the board, but I feel I have to explain this to you word by word before I could truly consider you a racist.

Are you that dumb?? When were illegals ever allowed into the US? Do you not understand what this bill does?
THE POLICE CANNOT DEPORT ANYONE!!!They will not serve as boarder agents...even though some of them might try...just to fu@! with people...... HELLO HELLO!! THEY STILL NEED TO TURN UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE TO THE FEDS!!!! All this does is promote hate, because it enforces police officers to become boarder agents (which by law they are not), with out receiving the proper training or the ability to do anything about anything, only thing they can do is arrest people and use there "judgment when profiling people. Basically they profile people and then take them over to the FEDS- HAVE YOU NOT READ any of my posts? are you seriously trying to argue this????
My question is direct do you support this bill even though it has been introduced by people affiliated with white supremacist groups? its very simple....

yes I agree with this new law and the reason is nothing else seems to be working,once the people crossing
get caught they go across the next day besides what about the familys that die in the weather trying to cross ?

you know it's funny when you can't change my mind on this issue you turn to personal attacks calling me a fu@#ing racist or asking me if I am really that dumb, if you spent anytime in my home or a day in my life you would see I am anything but a racist,live and let live my friend we are all in this together.

do you not see the problem with illegal's crossing our border's ? people need to do it the right way the legal way and then be a part of this country not a part time illegal resident that dose not contribute,
my friends live on a canyon in a nice area and the day workers live in the canyon at for the last 1-2 years
and since then the crime( stolen bicycles burgleries) in that part of the area has jumped and canyon looks like a dump site and police can't seem to stop them so imo something needs to be done.

Godfather.

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Godfather. wrote:

I also have question,
when the latino people try debunk this new law did they get any funding from a latino rights group ?
or do latino rights groups contribute any money to a latino politician ?........ummmm
RACISM !!!!!!!!!

Godfather.

You're kidding, right? I'm sure you know the difference between the words "rights" and "supremacist".

Cosmo

Godfather. wrote:

...my friends live on a canyon in a nice area and the day workers live in the canyon at for the last 1-2 years
and since then the crime( stolen bicycles burgleries) in that part of the area has jumped and canyon looks like a dump site and police can't seem to stop them so imo something needs to be done.

Godfather.

...
Question. How nice of an area can it be... if illegals can afford to live there?
I mean, here in L.A.... they live in the raunchiest places in the city... El Sereno, Inglewood, Bell, Lynwood, Willlowbrook... not Brentwood, Topanga, Irvine, West L.A.

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Godfather. wrote:

btw is it hate because the bill dose not allow illegals into the us ?
if thats what you believe then who is the racist here ?

Godfather.

I believe the hate/racism/whatever you call it part comes from the fact that the law creates a situation where people of color are more likely to be harassed, and this will now be legal. Many believe that America would never tolerate such a law were it directed at white people, and this double standard indicates that the people who support this bill, as a group, want only to protect their own rights but are willing to sacrifice the rights of their fellow citizens who don't fit the prototype of what many feel America should look like.

It has nothing to do with not allowing "illegals" into the US.

Godfather.

scb wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

btw is it hate because the bill dose not allow illegals into the us ?
if thats what you believe then who is the racist here ?

Godfather.

I believe the hate/racism/whatever you call it part comes from the fact that the law creates a situation where people of color are more likely to be harassed, and this will now be legal. Many believe that America would never tolerate such a law were it directed at white people, and this double standard indicates that the people who support this bill, as a group, want only to protect their own rights but are willing to sacrifice the rights of their fellow citizens who don't fit the prototype of what many feel America should look like.

It has nothing to do with not allowing "illegals" into the US.

so you think this law was created just to harass the brown people ? wow ! :?


Godfather.