Qustion.
What makes an Illegal Immigrant... 'Illegal'?
Is it the method they used to cross the border? Is it because they don't have the proper paperwork? Is it because they don't speak English? Is it because they don't expect minimum wages? What?
Someone... please, explain.
...
And if they were to become 'Legal'... would people finally shut the fuck up about them already?
Well here is how to become a legal citizen
Generally, there are nine requirements:
An applicant for naturalization must be admitted to the United States as a "lawful permanent resident" commonly referred to as one who possesses "green card" status. There is only one exception to this requirement: If an applicant has served in the U.S. armed forces during war, that person may be naturalized without first becoming a permanent resident if they were in the U.S. upon induction or enlistment into our military.
Continuous residence in the U.S. for at least five years immediately preceding the applicant's filing for naturalization. Continuous residence is not the same thing as physically present here. That is, one must maintain their status as a "legal permanent resident" but not necessarily be physically inside the borders of the U.S. to accomplish that. For example, if one is overseas for a portion of this period, maintaining an address location and paying one's state and federal taxes may help ensure continuity of residence for this requirement. Also, if overseas for anymore than a few months, it may be advisable to obtain a "travel document" prior to departing. This may be done on INS Form I-131. Only three years "continuous residence" are required if the applicant is filing for naturalization based upon marriage.
Actual physical residence (within the state in which the petition is filed) during at least the three months immediately before filing for naturalization is another requirement.
Physical presence within the U.S. for a total of at least one half of the period of required continuous residence. That is, two and a half years for most applicants and one and a half years for spouses of U.S. Citizens.
The ability to read, write and speak ordinary English unless they are physically unable to do so due to a disability such as being blind or deaf, or suffer from a developmental disability or mental impairment. Those over 50 years old on the date of filing who have lived here for a total of at least 20 years after admission as a permanent resident and those who are over 55 and have been legal permanent residents for at least 15 years are also exempt from this requirement.
A basic understanding the fundamentals of U.S. history and government.
Good moral character and an affinity for the principles of the U.S. Constitution.
Continuous residence (but not necessarily physical presence) in the U.S. from the date of filing the naturalization application up to the date of being sworn in as a citizen.
Applicants should be at least 18 years of age at the time of filing. Certain exceptions exist, however, for the children of other permanent residents who are seeking naturalization.
96 Randall's Island II
98 CAA
00 Virginia Beach;Camden I; Jones Beach III
05 Borgata Night I; Wachovia Center
06 Letterman Show; Webcast (guy in blue shirt), Camden I; DC
08 Camden I; Camden II; DC
09 Phillie III
10 MSG II
13 Wrigley Field
16 Phillie II
It's almost funny but in such a sad way the these are included. We could probably get rid of about one-third or one-half of our current population (legal or illegal) based on these three alone..haha
The ability to read, write and speak ordinary English unless they are physically unable to do so due to a disability such as being blind or deaf, or suffer from a developmental disability or mental impairment. Those over 50 years old on the date of filing who have lived here for a total of at least 20 years after admission as a permanent resident and those who are over 55 and have been legal permanent residents for at least 15 years are also exempt from this requirement.
A basic understanding the fundamentals of U.S. history and government.
Good moral character and an affinity for the principles of the U.S. Constitution.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Again, entitlement because you or your ancestors were born here.. you equate this too "success in life"? Really?
Maybe we should deport deadbeats who don't pay their debts or homeless people who eat up public funds as well? Where does the entitlement exactly stop? Say when...
And do not, under any circumstances try to give someone you don't know advice about where they work based on an internet post. That is ridiculous. I love my job, and I want to keep it, which is why health care COSTS need to be handled much more than just giving everyone health INSURANCE. I understand the need for public health, immunization programs, std and hiv control and testing, TB, etc. But I certainly don't think it is the responsibility of the people of the United states to pay for someone from ANOTHER COUNTRIES health care. That has nothing to do with being burnt out at my job asshole, it has to do with being realistic and thining our limited resources are better served when given to the people of this country. Sorry if that conflicts with the ridiculous view that everyone should get everything paid for by people who have been successful in life.
I find it :? that you have as your sig conservative gov. but nothing you ever post is anything even close to conservatism. in fact it's the complete opposite.
I find it :? that you have as your sig conservative gov. but nothing you ever post is anything even close to conservatism. in fact it's the complete opposite.
You do notice that he has enlargened some of the letters, so if you read only them, it says CON MEN?
Peace
Dan
"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
Qustion.
What makes an Illegal Immigrant... 'Illegal'?
Is it the method they used to cross the border? Is it because they don't have the proper paperwork? Is it because they don't speak English? Is it because they don't expect minimum wages? What?
Someone... please, explain.
...
And if they were to become 'Legal'... would people finally shut the fuck up about them already?
your kidding right ? try and walk across any border with out the proper paper work and see what happens
and about that time you will find out what a Illegal Immigrant is and it's meaning
Qustion.
What makes an Illegal Immigrant... 'Illegal'?
Is it the method they used to cross the border? Is it because they don't have the proper paperwork? Is it because they don't speak English? Is it because they don't expect minimum wages? What?
Someone... please, explain.
...
And if they were to become 'Legal'... would people finally shut the fuck up about them already?
"Illegal immigration is the movement of people across national borders in a way that violates the immigration laws of the destination country." That's a total wiki-answer for you but I think it's a pretty good one.
Also, and to be direct and clear to your assumption, this is not "conservative" or "liberal" based upon how you typically define these terms on the board, but in the actual political and theoretical definitions. The Dems aren't "liberal" nor are the Reps "conservative" in our government.
I find it :? that you have as your sig conservative gov. but nothing you ever post is anything even close to conservatism. in fact it's the complete opposite.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
We all just filled out a census (or should have) when that is calculated they know how much funding/personnel are need for fire, police, schools, etc. So, for example, when you have a town whose population from the census says 5000 people, but in reality it has 10,000. The resources for that town are dramatically decreased.
96 Randall's Island II
98 CAA
00 Virginia Beach;Camden I; Jones Beach III
05 Borgata Night I; Wachovia Center
06 Letterman Show; Webcast (guy in blue shirt), Camden I; DC
08 Camden I; Camden II; DC
09 Phillie III
10 MSG II
13 Wrigley Field
16 Phillie II
Yes very true - which bring us to the next topic - the cause and reason the government is trying to get a national id card for everyone (citizens or not). Even with good intentions, the government is so disdained and distrusted (in many respects it's deserved but not all), they can never accomplish all that much even if they aim too. It merely becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
We all just filled out a census (or should have) when that is calculated they know how much funding/personnel are need for fire, police, schools, etc. So, for example, when you have a town whose population from the census says 5000 people, but in reality it has 10,000. The resources for that town are dramatically decreased.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Qustion.
What makes an Illegal Immigrant... 'Illegal'?
Is it the method they used to cross the border? Is it because they don't have the proper paperwork? Is it because they don't speak English? Is it because they don't expect minimum wages? What?
Someone... please, explain.
...
And if they were to become 'Legal'... would people finally shut the fuck up about them already?
your kidding right ? try and walk across any border with out the proper paper work and see what happens
and about that time you will find out what a Illegal Immigrant is and it's meaning
Godfather.
...
So.. in other words... you don't have a fucking clue and cannot contribute anything constructive to this.
Fair enough.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
I find it :? that you have as your sig conservative gov. but nothing you ever post is anything even close to conservatism. in fact it's the complete opposite.
Do you know that you have as your sig a fake quote?
I find it :? that you have as your sig conservative gov. but nothing you ever post is anything even close to conservatism. in fact it's the complete opposite.
Do you know that you have as your sig a fake quote?
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
I find it :? that you have as your sig conservative gov. but nothing you ever post is anything even close to conservatism. in fact it's the complete opposite.
Do you know that you have as your sig a fake quote?
I find it :? that you have as your sig conservative gov. but nothing you ever post is anything even close to conservatism. in fact it's the complete opposite.
Do you know that you have as your sig a fake quote?
...
Now, wait a minute. You know, as a dedicated follower of FOX News... 'Truth' is relative. If you BELIEVE it is true... if your gut instinct tells you it is true... then, it MUST be true.
Jefferson said that... as long as you BELIEVE he said it.
...
"I fucking hate Mexican immigrants, coming here and taking jobs and shit"
-- Thomas Jefferson
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
it is ironic that in attempt to save tax payer money and solve crime they crack down on illegal immigrants
however it seems, at least initially, that it is costing them more money and tension in the streets... which leads to more crime
also I hope that AZ residents realize that their money pays for the cops and the jails that will arrest and house the people that are scooped off the streets....
oh what a wonderful world we live in, maybe it is just Karma
it is ironic that in attempt to save tax payer money a solve crime the crack down on illegal immigrants
however it seems, at least initially, that it is costing them more money and tension in the streets... which leads to more crime
also I hope that AZ residents realize that their money pays for the cops and the jails that will arrest and house the people that are scooped off the streets....
oh what a wonderful world we live in, maybe it is just Karma
Good point. I think aerial posted a thread about this, which included videos demonstrating how this law is already leading to more crime.
Not too mention that old TJ and the rest of our "forefathers" were all ILLEGALS... Did each of them have a Native American sponsor?
Yeah... how conveniently we choose to ignore our own history. Of course, history is coming back around (or never left), as this law will likely result in the harassment of Native people too. With all the reservations there, Arizona has a huge Native American population. My friends are already talking about needing to get their tribal documents laminated so they can carry them at all times.
Also, and to be direct and clear to your assumption, this is not "conservative" or "liberal" based upon how you typically define these terms on the board, but in the actual political and theoretical definitions. The Dems aren't "liberal" nor are the Reps "conservative" in our government.
I find it :? that you have as your sig conservative gov. but nothing you ever post is anything even close to conservatism. in fact it's the complete opposite.
Also, and to be direct and clear to your assumption, this is not "conservative" or "liberal" based upon how you typically define these terms on the board, but in the actual political and theoretical definitions. The Dems aren't "liberal" nor are the Reps "conservative" in our government.
I find it :? that you have as your sig conservative gov. but nothing you ever post is anything even close to conservatism. in fact it's the complete opposite.
they used to be...
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Well, Arizona is a racist state, just like the other 49 states. So that arguments means little to me. What does matter to me is that illegal immigration has already spiraled out of control. The main source of the problem is that Mexico has too many people... so do most other countries, to be fair... but Mexico is dominated by Catholics who do as their Pope says and do not use birth control. Which is fucking stupid. In my opinion, it's the people who make stupid decisions who need to deal with the consequences of those decisions. At the same time, I can't blame anyone for wanting to come here illegally when we have been so eager to give workers with questionable documentation the shitty, rotten jobs we don't want. So now we have the situation where we can't control our slaves anymore. What did we expect? We all have to deal with our stupid decisions. I don't think enough of us are smart enough to do that.
you are blaming our immigration problems on the pope and contraceptives? seriously?
actually in Mexico the Virgin Mary is more prominent then the pope. I willing to bet that if you went to Mexico and did a survey... more people would NOT be able to name the pope then would be able to...
Not too mention that old TJ and the rest of our "forefathers" were all ILLEGALS... Did each of them have a Native American sponsor?
Yeah... how conveniently we choose to ignore our own history. Of course, history is coming back around (or never left), as this law will likely result in the harassment of Native people too. With all the reservations there, Arizona has a huge Native American population. My friends are already talking about needing to get their tribal documents laminated so they can carry them at all times.
Should read as “how conveniently we choose to ignore our own history when it does not fit in with my own agenda”
so we pick a choose what parts of history are relevant do to our personal agendas.......on the MT
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
Qustion.
What makes an Illegal Immigrant... 'Illegal'?
Is it the method they used to cross the border? Is it because they don't have the proper paperwork? Is it because they don't speak English? Is it because they don't expect minimum wages? What?
Someone... please, explain.
...
And if they were to become 'Legal'... would people finally shut the fuck up about them already?
your kidding right ? try and walk across any border with out the proper paper work and see what happens
and about that time you will find out what a Illegal Immigrant is and it's meaning
Godfather.
...
So.. in other words... you don't have a fucking clue and cannot contribute anything constructive to this.
Fair enough.
constructive.......gimmi a fuckin break, I'm tired of reading all the crying and finger pointing from all you people,soon as you read something you don't like you throw the race card in to the mix..what a bunch of fuckin nobodys, is that all you got ? then you start crying about our history...how bout the leeps and bounds this country has made and the wars we have fought to move things forward,get a life ! and stop blaming everything on someone else and if your not happy here in the USA get the fuck out !
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Well here is how to become a legal citizen
Generally, there are nine requirements:
An applicant for naturalization must be admitted to the United States as a "lawful permanent resident" commonly referred to as one who possesses "green card" status. There is only one exception to this requirement: If an applicant has served in the U.S. armed forces during war, that person may be naturalized without first becoming a permanent resident if they were in the U.S. upon induction or enlistment into our military.
Continuous residence in the U.S. for at least five years immediately preceding the applicant's filing for naturalization. Continuous residence is not the same thing as physically present here. That is, one must maintain their status as a "legal permanent resident" but not necessarily be physically inside the borders of the U.S. to accomplish that. For example, if one is overseas for a portion of this period, maintaining an address location and paying one's state and federal taxes may help ensure continuity of residence for this requirement. Also, if overseas for anymore than a few months, it may be advisable to obtain a "travel document" prior to departing. This may be done on INS Form I-131. Only three years "continuous residence" are required if the applicant is filing for naturalization based upon marriage.
Actual physical residence (within the state in which the petition is filed) during at least the three months immediately before filing for naturalization is another requirement.
Physical presence within the U.S. for a total of at least one half of the period of required continuous residence. That is, two and a half years for most applicants and one and a half years for spouses of U.S. Citizens.
The ability to read, write and speak ordinary English unless they are physically unable to do so due to a disability such as being blind or deaf, or suffer from a developmental disability or mental impairment. Those over 50 years old on the date of filing who have lived here for a total of at least 20 years after admission as a permanent resident and those who are over 55 and have been legal permanent residents for at least 15 years are also exempt from this requirement.
A basic understanding the fundamentals of U.S. history and government.
Good moral character and an affinity for the principles of the U.S. Constitution.
Continuous residence (but not necessarily physical presence) in the U.S. from the date of filing the naturalization application up to the date of being sworn in as a citizen.
Applicants should be at least 18 years of age at the time of filing. Certain exceptions exist, however, for the children of other permanent residents who are seeking naturalization.
98 CAA
00 Virginia Beach;Camden I; Jones Beach III
05 Borgata Night I; Wachovia Center
06 Letterman Show; Webcast (guy in blue shirt), Camden I; DC
08 Camden I; Camden II; DC
09 Phillie III
10 MSG II
13 Wrigley Field
16 Phillie II
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
I find it :? that you have as your sig conservative gov. but nothing you ever post is anything even close to conservatism. in fact it's the complete opposite.
You do notice that he has enlargened some of the letters, so if you read only them, it says CON MEN?
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
Godfather.
with all due respect ... it may appear weak to you simply because you don't understand the meaning of it ...
your kidding right ? try and walk across any border with out the proper paper work and see what happens
and about that time you will find out what a Illegal Immigrant is and it's meaning
Godfather.
"Illegal immigration is the movement of people across national borders in a way that violates the immigration laws of the destination country." That's a total wiki-answer for you but I think it's a pretty good one.
Also, and to be direct and clear to your assumption, this is not "conservative" or "liberal" based upon how you typically define these terms on the board, but in the actual political and theoretical definitions. The Dems aren't "liberal" nor are the Reps "conservative" in our government.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
We all just filled out a census (or should have) when that is calculated they know how much funding/personnel are need for fire, police, schools, etc. So, for example, when you have a town whose population from the census says 5000 people, but in reality it has 10,000. The resources for that town are dramatically decreased.
98 CAA
00 Virginia Beach;Camden I; Jones Beach III
05 Borgata Night I; Wachovia Center
06 Letterman Show; Webcast (guy in blue shirt), Camden I; DC
08 Camden I; Camden II; DC
09 Phillie III
10 MSG II
13 Wrigley Field
16 Phillie II
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126408343
So.. in other words... you don't have a fucking clue and cannot contribute anything constructive to this.
Fair enough.
Hail, Hail!!!
Do you know that you have as your sig a fake quote?
http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki/in ... e_to_exist
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Now, wait a minute. You know, as a dedicated follower of FOX News... 'Truth' is relative. If you BELIEVE it is true... if your gut instinct tells you it is true... then, it MUST be true.
Jefferson said that... as long as you BELIEVE he said it.
...
"I fucking hate Mexican immigrants, coming here and taking jobs and shit"
-- Thomas Jefferson
Hail, Hail!!!
I've heard that quote too!!!
Not too mention that old TJ and the rest of our "forefathers" were all ILLEGALS... Did each of them have a Native American sponsor?
it is ironic that in attempt to save tax payer money and solve crime they crack down on illegal immigrants
however it seems, at least initially, that it is costing them more money and tension in the streets... which leads to more crime
also I hope that AZ residents realize that their money pays for the cops and the jails that will arrest and house the people that are scooped off the streets....
oh what a wonderful world we live in, maybe it is just Karma
Good point. I think aerial posted a thread about this, which included videos demonstrating how this law is already leading to more crime.
Yeah... how conveniently we choose to ignore our own history. Of course, history is coming back around (or never left), as this law will likely result in the harassment of Native people too. With all the reservations there, Arizona has a huge Native American population. My friends are already talking about needing to get their tribal documents laminated so they can carry them at all times.
they used to be...
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
you are blaming our immigration problems on the pope and contraceptives? seriously?
actually in Mexico the Virgin Mary is more prominent then the pope. I willing to bet that if you went to Mexico and did a survey... more people would NOT be able to name the pope then would be able to...
get a clue, seriously
DAMN those catholic mexicans
I just hope my landscapers don't leave.
They do damn fine work!
so we pick a choose what parts of history are relevant do to our personal agendas.......on the MT
Godfather.