What wars have we fought "to move things forward" and in what terms does "forward" actually refer?
Also, anytime anyone utters the words "if you don't like it leave" when referring to a nation, it's simply dumb on so many levels. I get what you're saying about the race card, but the other part is bs.
constructive.......gimmi a fuckin break, I'm tired of reading all the crying and finger pointing from all you people,soon as you read something you don't like you throw the race card in to the mix..what a bunch of fuckin nobodys, is that all you got ? then you start crying about our history...how bout the leeps and bounds this country has made and the wars we have fought to move things forward,get a life ! and stop blaming everything on someone else and if your not happy here in the USA get the fuck out !
Godfather.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
What wars have we fought "to move things forward" and in what terms does "forward" actually refer?
Also, anytime anyone utters the words "if you don't like it leave" when referring to a nation, it's simply dumb on so many levels. I get what you're saying about the race card, but the other part is bs.
constructive.......gimmi a fuckin break, I'm tired of reading all the crying and finger pointing from all you people,soon as you read something you don't like you throw the race card in to the mix..what a bunch of fuckin nobodys, is that all you got ? then you start crying about our history...how bout the leeps and bounds this country has made and the wars we have fought to move things forward,get a life ! and stop blaming everything on someone else and if your not happy here in the USA get the fuck out !
Godfather.
this country (our country) is so young about less then 300 years old ? we went to war to gain freedom from the British then we had the civil war that was a first and very important step in doing away slavery then there was WWI and WWII I don't need to go any farther with that stuff,my point with that is I'm tired reading all this bs and crying about how messed up some of the people on this forum are saying our country is and thats why I said "if you don't like it get the fuck out" we don't need to give anybody a free ride, my grandfather and my uncle, my great grandfather all fought in wars to make this a better place to live,my father in-law fought in three wars and was born in the fillipins (spelling check please) but loved this country enough to fight for it and it's freedoms we have today my grandfathers family from Italy came here and fought for America so my message is stand behind your country or leave,if you want to stand behind another country like mexico or any other country move your ass over there and fight for your new country of choice, fighting for any other country from American soil is treason.
Or perhaps over those hundreds of years, the culture, mindset of people, class of people, morality/sense of social justice/humanity and general care has deteriorated so vastly that the nation isn't worth fighting for? To simply equate a person's defense by arms of an idea or nation to it's legitimacy or even qualities (good or bad), is merely silly. Also, simply saying things that are we have overcome or dealt with in the past as some type of justification for things now doesn't amount to anything other than excuses and entitlement. No one deserves or should expect a free ride, so to speak, include the people of our nation and we should always, aim, strive and work towards making things better for everyone, both home and abroad (in our borders, on them or elsewhere). Saying anything otherwise is merely excuses and off-hand ways of placing blame or bias towards others.
this country (our country) is so young about less then 300 years old ? we went to war to gain freedom from the British then we had the civil war that was a first and very important step in doing away slavery then there was WWI and WWII I don't need to go any farther with that stuff,my point with that is I'm tired reading all this bs and crying about how messed up some of the people on this forum are saying our country is and thats why I said "if you don't like it get the fuck out" we don't need to give anybody a free ride, my grandfather and my uncle, my great grandfather all fought in wars to make this a better place to live,my father in-law fought in three wars and was born in the fillipins (spelling check please) but loved this country enough to fight for it and it's freedoms we have today my grandfathers family from Italy came here and fought for America so my message is stand behind your country or leave,if you want to stand behind another country like mexico or any other country move your ass over there and fight for your new country of choice, fighting for any other country from American soil is treason.
Godfather.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
constructive.......gimmi a fuckin break, I'm tired of reading all the crying and finger pointing from all you people,soon as you read something you don't like you throw the race card in to the mix..what a bunch of fuckin nobodys, is that all you got ? then you start crying about our history...how bout the leeps and bounds this country has made and the wars we have fought to move things forward,get a life ! and stop blaming everything on someone else and if your not happy here in the USA get the fuck out !
Godfather.
So do you think racism still exists at all in this country? Do you believe we still have room to move forward?
this country (our country) is so young about less then 300 years old ? we went to war to gain freedom from the British then we had the civil war that was a first and very important step in doing away slavery then there was WWI and WWII I don't need to go any farther with that stuff,my point with that is I'm tired reading all this bs and crying about how messed up some of the people on this forum are saying our country is and thats why I said "if you don't like it get the fuck out" we don't need to give anybody a free ride, my grandfather and my uncle, my great grandfather all fought in wars to make this a better place to live,my father in-law fought in three wars and was born in the fillipins (spelling check please) but loved this country enough to fight for it and it's freedoms we have today my grandfathers family from Italy came here and fought for America so my message is stand behind your country or leave,if you want to stand behind another country like mexico or any other country move your ass over there and fight for your new country of choice, fighting for any other country from American soil is treason.
Godfather.
Are you saying everything's been all hunky dory for black people since the Civil War? :? And how exactly did WWI and WWII eliminate racism from this country? :?
Some people stand behind THEIR country by standing up against injustice, by the way. And I'm pretty sure that's one of the ideals upon which OUR country is based.
constructive.......gimmi a fuckin break, I'm tired of reading all the crying and finger pointing from all you people,soon as you read something you don't like you throw the race card in to the mix..what a bunch of fuckin nobodys, is that all you got ? then you start crying about our history...how bout the leeps and bounds this country has made and the wars we have fought to move things forward,get a life ! and stop blaming everything on someone else and if your not happy here in the USA get the fuck out !
Godfather.
So do you think racism still exists at all in this country? Do you believe we still have room to move forward?
there will always be room to move forward and as I have said before racism is a crime guilty by all colors.
if you are a American stand up for your country or leave to the country you wish to live in, we have one flag for our country and the rest don't belong here.
this country (our country) is so young about less then 300 years old ? we went to war to gain freedom from the British then we had the civil war that was a first and very important step in doing away slavery then there was WWI and WWII I don't need to go any farther with that stuff,my point with that is I'm tired reading all this bs and crying about how messed up some of the people on this forum are saying our country is and thats why I said "if you don't like it get the fuck out" we don't need to give anybody a free ride, my grandfather and my uncle, my great grandfather all fought in wars to make this a better place to live,my father in-law fought in three wars and was born in the fillipins (spelling check please) but loved this country enough to fight for it and it's freedoms we have today my grandfathers family from Italy came here and fought for America so my message is stand behind your country or leave,if you want to stand behind another country like mexico or any other country move your ass over there and fight for your new country of choice, fighting for any other country from American soil is treason.
Godfather.
Are you saying everything's been all hunky dory for black people since the Civil War? :? And how exactly did WWI and WWII eliminate racism from this country? :?
Some people stand behind THEIR country by standing up against injustice, by the way. And I'm pretty sure that's one of the ideals upon which OUR country is based.
pull your head out of your cloud of racism....wake sunshine.
Godfather.
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constructive.......gimmi a fuckin break, I'm tired of reading all the crying and finger pointing from all you people,soon as you read something you don't like you throw the race card in to the mix..what a bunch of fuckin nobodys, is that all you got ? then you start crying about our history...how bout the leeps and bounds this country has made and the wars we have fought to move things forward,get a life ! and stop blaming everything on someone else and if your not happy here in the USA get the fuck out !
Godfather.
So do you think racism still exists at all in this country? Do you believe we still have room to move forward?
there will always be room to move forward and as I have said before racism is a crime guilty by all colors.
if you are a American stand up for your country or leave to the country you wish to live in, we have one flag for our country and the rest don't belong here.
Godfather.
What, are you serious. So if I"m italian with an Italian heritage and culture I shouldn't have or fly an Italian flag if I want to. I thought this was the land of the free, not according to you I gather. With that thought process it appears you wouldn't mind seeing all non Americans and their flags leave this country. :shock:
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
G under P maybe I should have worded that better, it's not o.k to wave another country's flag in protest of America while you are in America as a American.
I have Italian German and Norway in my vanes and only one flag "RED WHITE AND BLUE"
G under P maybe I should have worded that better, it's not o.k to wave another country's flag in protest of America while you are in America as a American.
I have Italian German and Norway in my vanes and only one flag "RED WHITE AND BLUE"
Godfather.
Do you think maybe sometimes people wave another country's flag and it's NOT in protest of the United States?
So do you think racism still exists at all in this country? Do you believe we still have room to move forward?
there will always be room to move forward and as I have said before racism is a crime guilty by all colors.
Godfather.
How can we define and identify racism? In what ways can/should we move forward?
first off if the world would stop making a political and media issue of it we could move forward and past that crap and then we all might realize that we are all just people no better no worse.
G under P maybe I should have worded that better, it's not o.k to wave another country's flag in protest of America while you are in America as a American.
I have Italian German and Norway in my vanes and only one flag "RED WHITE AND BLUE"
Godfather.
Do you think maybe sometimes people wave another country's flad and it's NOT in protest of the United States?
How can we define and identify racism? In what ways can/should we move forward?
first off if the world would stop making a political and media issue of it we could move forward and past that crap and then we all might realize that we are all just people no better no worse.
G under P maybe I should have worded that better, it's not o.k to wave another country's flag in protest of America while you are in America as a American.
I have Italian German and Norway in my vanes and only one flag "RED WHITE AND BLUE"
Godfather.
Do you think maybe sometimes people wave another country's flag and it's NOT in protest of the United States?
maybe... but this is America.
Godfather.
Do you think maybe sometimes people wave another country's flag and it's not in protest of the United States and they know that this is America?
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there will always be room to move forward and as I have said before racism is a crime guilty by all colors.
if you are a American stand up for your country or leave to the country you wish to live in, we have one flag for our country and the rest don't belong here.
G under P maybe I should have worded that better, it's not o.k to wave another country's flag in protest of America while you are in America as a American.
I have Italian German and Norway in my vanes and only one flag "RED WHITE AND BLUE"
Godfather.
Do you think maybe sometimes people wave another country's flad and it's NOT in protest of the United States?
maybe... but this is America.
Godfather.
I think it shows greater strength and belief in your country when in another country. When I'm in Great Britain I feel more proud with pride walking around London with my American flagged shirts being away from the US than when I'm here. Maybe that's exactly how these people from other countries feel as well.....even though this is.....America.
Peace
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I don't understand why people are so afraid of immigration. We have lots of land. Why is it such a Problem for so many people? Why does it frighten them so?
Hey guys..... for those of you who are still fired up on the new AZ law......Here's a good clip from the Bill O Reilly show... It makes a lot of sense, it also ads to my overall argument.
I hope you take the time to view it.....
thanks,
you are blaming our immigration problems on the pope and contraceptives? seriously?
actually in Mexico the Virgin Mary is more prominent then the pope. I willing to bet that if you went to Mexico and did a survey... more people would NOT be able to name the pope then would be able to...
get a clue, seriously
DAMN those catholic mexicans
lol, alright calm down. I mean, of course the Virgin Mary is more prominent than the Pope. I'm really blaming the religion, among many other things. Who can dispute that people who are very religious have more children than those who are not? They have too many children for these times. Catholics, Protestants, Muslims... all guilty.
for the Diogenists out there here is a good outline of the situation. It is Chomsky so beware, if you listen to Alex Jones or other blowhards, this'll bore you to death.
was reading this and was wondering if someone on the board was the author of this?
Bullshit sympathy for illegal alien being deported because his son died in Iraq
Ok I’m sick and tired of seeing these sympathy pieces by the mainstream media that are supposed to make us feel God damn guilty about enforcing our God damned laws. Just saw this story on CNN, complete with sad story about how their son was serving in Iraq and killed. The father is being deported and is NOT ELIGIBLE for any kind of amnesty or permanent residence - and why is that? Because he was deported in 1999 and CAME BACK AGAIN ILLEGALLY. So now we are supposed to feel sad because this guy is a repeat offender illegal alien just because his son died in Iraq? That son really belongs to US because we paid for his education, we paid for his birth, we paid for his food I am sure while growing up. That boy is not really HIS son. He raised that boy on OUR dime.
Now we are getting this sob story about breaking up his family and oh we are supposed to feel badly because he has been here since what - 1982 or something ridiculous? He STILL cannot speak English! And there is NOTHING stopping his “permanent resident” wife from going home to the motherland with him. It’s NOT OUR PROBLEM and he MUST GO. I feel zero sympathy for these people. It’s very simple. You broke the law and he repeatedly broke the law. He knew the risks when he broke the law every time. Now he is paying the price. Don’t freaking cry in MY cornflakes because his son died in Iraq. These people are without shame - using their children as anchors and pawns to stay in the country. And media like CNN play right into their hands and give them the sympathy time on the tube.
Where are the stories about AMERICANS who sacrifice much and have children who die in Iraq??? Why is CNN so bent on giving sympathy to yet another illegal alien. Attention CNN - we have no sympathy for illegal aliens. We have been taken advantage of by them for TOO LONG and we are FED UP. We don’t care if they clean our toilets or pick our vegetables. We don’t want our neighborhoods turned into BARRIOS. My town is something like 40% MEXICAN now - they are all from the same freaking TOWN even in Mexico like there is some kind of express train from Puebla, Mexico to my town. I call that an invasion and I am sick and tired of 40% of my town taking handouts and working under the table not paying taxes. If they are paying taxes they are using a stolen identity. I am sure at least 30% of that 40% are ILLEGAL ALIENS and I’m SICK AND TIRED OF THIS CRAP.
was reading this and was wondering if someone on the board was the author of this?
Bullshit sympathy for illegal alien being deported because his son died in Iraq
Ok I’m sick and tired of seeing these sympathy pieces by the mainstream media that are supposed to make us feel God damn guilty about enforcing our God damned laws. Just saw this story on CNN, complete with sad story about how their son was serving in Iraq and killed. The father is being deported and is NOT ELIGIBLE for any kind of amnesty or permanent residence - and why is that? Because he was deported in 1999 and CAME BACK AGAIN ILLEGALLY. So now we are supposed to feel sad because this guy is a repeat offender illegal alien just because his son died in Iraq? That son really belongs to US because we paid for his education, we paid for his birth, we paid for his food I am sure while growing up. That boy is not really HIS son. He raised that boy on OUR dime.
Now we are getting this sob story about breaking up his family and oh we are supposed to feel badly because he has been here since what - 1982 or something ridiculous? He STILL cannot speak English! And there is NOTHING stopping his “permanent resident” wife from going home to the motherland with him. It’s NOT OUR PROBLEM and he MUST GO. I feel zero sympathy for these people. It’s very simple. You broke the law and he repeatedly broke the law. He knew the risks when he broke the law every time. Now he is paying the price. Don’t freaking cry in MY cornflakes because his son died in Iraq. These people are without shame - using their children as anchors and pawns to stay in the country. And media like CNN play right into their hands and give them the sympathy time on the tube.
Where are the stories about AMERICANS who sacrifice much and have children who die in Iraq??? Why is CNN so bent on giving sympathy to yet another illegal alien. Attention CNN - we have no sympathy for illegal aliens. We have been taken advantage of by them for TOO LONG and we are FED UP. We don’t care if they clean our toilets or pick our vegetables. We don’t want our neighborhoods turned into BARRIOS. My town is something like 40% MEXICAN now - they are all from the same freaking TOWN even in Mexico like there is some kind of express train from Puebla, Mexico to my town. I call that an invasion and I am sick and tired of 40% of my town taking handouts and working under the table not paying taxes. If they are paying taxes they are using a stolen identity. I am sure at least 30% of that 40% are ILLEGAL ALIENS and I’m SICK AND TIRED OF THIS CRAP.
This can't be real.... right? Please tell me this is not real. :(
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Also, anytime anyone utters the words "if you don't like it leave" when referring to a nation, it's simply dumb on so many levels. I get what you're saying about the race card, but the other part is bs.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
this country (our country) is so young about less then 300 years old ? we went to war to gain freedom from the British then we had the civil war that was a first and very important step in doing away slavery then there was WWI and WWII I don't need to go any farther with that stuff,my point with that is I'm tired reading all this bs and crying about how messed up some of the people on this forum are saying our country is and thats why I said "if you don't like it get the fuck out" we don't need to give anybody a free ride, my grandfather and my uncle, my great grandfather all fought in wars to make this a better place to live,my father in-law fought in three wars and was born in the fillipins (spelling check please) but loved this country enough to fight for it and it's freedoms we have today my grandfathers family from Italy came here and fought for America so my message is stand behind your country or leave,if you want to stand behind another country like mexico or any other country move your ass over there and fight for your new country of choice, fighting for any other country from American soil is treason.
Godfather.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Maybe we should boycott YOU!
So do you think racism still exists at all in this country? Do you believe we still have room to move forward?
Are you saying everything's been all hunky dory for black people since the Civil War? :? And how exactly did WWI and WWII eliminate racism from this country? :?
Some people stand behind THEIR country by standing up against injustice, by the way. And I'm pretty sure that's one of the ideals upon which OUR country is based.
Thanks! I love it. I read it quoted in an article about why the US has one of the highest rates of unintended pregnancy in the developed world.
there will always be room to move forward and as I have said before racism is a crime guilty by all colors.
if you are a American stand up for your country or leave to the country you wish to live in, we have one flag for our country and the rest don't belong here.
Godfather.
pull your head out of your cloud of racism....wake sunshine.
Godfather.
What, are you serious. So if I"m italian with an Italian heritage and culture I shouldn't have or fly an Italian flag if I want to. I thought this was the land of the free, not according to you I gather. With that thought process it appears you wouldn't mind seeing all non Americans and their flags leave this country. :shock:
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
How can we define and identify racism? In what ways can/should we move forward?
I have Italian German and Norway in my vanes and only one flag "RED WHITE AND BLUE"
Godfather.
Do you think maybe sometimes people wave another country's flag and it's NOT in protest of the United States?
first off if the world would stop making a political and media issue of it we could move forward and past that crap and then we all might realize that we are all just people no better no worse.
Godfather.
maybe... but this is America.
Godfather.
I don't understand this answer at all. :?
Do you think maybe sometimes people wave another country's flag and it's not in protest of the United States and they know that this is America?
I think it shows greater strength and belief in your country when in another country. When I'm in Great Britain I feel more proud with pride walking around London with my American flagged shirts being away from the US than when I'm here. Maybe that's exactly how these people from other countries feel as well.....even though this is.....America.
Peace
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
the city of Chicago even has its own flag
I hope you take the time to view it.....
thanks,
http://origin-drupal.foxnews.com/on-air ... t_id=87253
lol, alright calm down. I mean, of course the Virgin Mary is more prominent than the Pope. I'm really blaming the religion, among many other things. Who can dispute that people who are very religious have more children than those who are not? They have too many children for these times. Catholics, Protestants, Muslims... all guilty.
I have family in Chicago, I haven't been there since the 80's but you all can have it,have they cleaned up the lake ?
Godfather.
http://deprofiler.com/
That's classic! I'm going to need a few of those- thanks for sharing....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBfHD2n13OA
Bullshit sympathy for illegal alien being deported because his son died in Iraq
Ok I’m sick and tired of seeing these sympathy pieces by the mainstream media that are supposed to make us feel God damn guilty about enforcing our God damned laws. Just saw this story on CNN, complete with sad story about how their son was serving in Iraq and killed. The father is being deported and is NOT ELIGIBLE for any kind of amnesty or permanent residence - and why is that? Because he was deported in 1999 and CAME BACK AGAIN ILLEGALLY. So now we are supposed to feel sad because this guy is a repeat offender illegal alien just because his son died in Iraq? That son really belongs to US because we paid for his education, we paid for his birth, we paid for his food I am sure while growing up. That boy is not really HIS son. He raised that boy on OUR dime.
Now we are getting this sob story about breaking up his family and oh we are supposed to feel badly because he has been here since what - 1982 or something ridiculous? He STILL cannot speak English! And there is NOTHING stopping his “permanent resident” wife from going home to the motherland with him. It’s NOT OUR PROBLEM and he MUST GO. I feel zero sympathy for these people. It’s very simple. You broke the law and he repeatedly broke the law. He knew the risks when he broke the law every time. Now he is paying the price. Don’t freaking cry in MY cornflakes because his son died in Iraq. These people are without shame - using their children as anchors and pawns to stay in the country. And media like CNN play right into their hands and give them the sympathy time on the tube.
Where are the stories about AMERICANS who sacrifice much and have children who die in Iraq??? Why is CNN so bent on giving sympathy to yet another illegal alien. Attention CNN - we have no sympathy for illegal aliens. We have been taken advantage of by them for TOO LONG and we are FED UP. We don’t care if they clean our toilets or pick our vegetables. We don’t want our neighborhoods turned into BARRIOS. My town is something like 40% MEXICAN now - they are all from the same freaking TOWN even in Mexico like there is some kind of express train from Puebla, Mexico to my town. I call that an invasion and I am sick and tired of 40% of my town taking handouts and working under the table not paying taxes. If they are paying taxes they are using a stolen identity. I am sure at least 30% of that 40% are ILLEGAL ALIENS and I’m SICK AND TIRED OF THIS CRAP.
This can't be real.... right? Please tell me this is not real. :(