THE PHILADELPHIA EAGLES...

Cliffy6745

The Jeagler wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Eagles taking calls for Kolb?

indeed. cleveland, as i suspected earlier:

Report: Browns called Eagles last night about Kolb
Posted by Mike Florio on September 22, 2010 12:51 PM ET
Those in the Philly front office who believed in quarterback Kevin Kolb included the team's General Manager.

Tom Heckert is now the G.M. of the Browns. And Anthony Gargano of WIP in Philly reports that Heckert's Browns already have called about a possible trade for Kolb.

Specifically, the call was placed last night, and the Browns were told that Kolb isn't available.

But maybe he could be. Coach Andy Reid said Wednesday that that he can't predict whether Kolb will be on the roster past the trade deadline. And that means that maybe Kolb will be traded between now and October 19.

Trading him would make no sense, right? Isn't he why they got rid of McNabb?

The Juggler

Cliffy6745 wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Eagles taking calls for Kolb?

indeed. cleveland, as i suspected earlier:

Report: Browns called Eagles last night about Kolb
Posted by Mike Florio on September 22, 2010 12:51 PM ET
Those in the Philly front office who believed in quarterback Kevin Kolb included the team's General Manager.

Tom Heckert is now the G.M. of the Browns. And Anthony Gargano of WIP in Philly reports that Heckert's Browns already have called about a possible trade for Kolb.

Specifically, the call was placed last night, and the Browns were told that Kolb isn't available.

But maybe he could be. Coach Andy Reid said Wednesday that that he can't predict whether Kolb will be on the roster past the trade deadline. And that means that maybe Kolb will be traded between now and October 19.

Trading him would make no sense, right? Isn't he why they got rid of McNabb?

the organization has apparently lost their collective mind.

vick's is the qb for the present and future now.

Cliffy6745

The Jeagler wrote:

the organization has apparently lost their collective mind.

vick's apparently the qb for the present and future now.

That is some strange shit if you ask me.

The Juggler

Reid: Vick to start for year; no guarantee Kolb will be on team after trade deadline
Michael Vick said he was "humbled" to learn he had been named the Eagles starter, completing a long journey from public pariah to face of the team. It's a move that seems set for the rest of the year: head coach Andy Reid said Vick is the starter for the remainder of the year.
Vick said even he was "sort of" surprised by his own performance in his six quarters this season.

"I know what I can do, but until you get out there and you actually do it, you really don't know if you're going to make the plays that you know you're capable of making," Vick told reporters before his first practice as the team's starting quarterback.

Vick said there were days he never thought he would play again the NFL. Now, he said he has to play hard and reward his coaches' faith in him.

It's unclear what Vick's long-term future will be though. Reid would not answer a question about whether the team will look to extend the quarterback's contract. He is in the final year of his deal with the Eagles.

Reid also would not guarantee that Kevin Kolb will remain with the team after the Oct. 19 trade deadline, despite touting Kolb's "bright future" in the NFL.

"I can’t predict anything down that far, nobody in this league can do that, that’s ridiculous," Reid said. "The future, we’ll just have to see."

Reid, however, said he wants Kolb on the Eagles.

"This is not about Kevin Kolb, this is about Michael Vick. Kevin Kolb has got a bright, bright future. I mean bright future ... but Michael Vick I think surprised all of us with his play."

Several players were asked about the change, they all stuck to the company line: they will support whatever their coaches decide.

Reid conceded that Kolb would not have lost his job had he not suffered a concussion against the Packers.

He said no one else pressed him to make the switch.

"I didn't talk to a player, I didn't talk to a coach, I talked to one guy for two days about this," Reid said -- referring to Kolb. "Whatever anyone else says about this, is not right."

Kolb took the high road when asked about the switch.

"The NFL is a tough spot and you have to compete every day. I understand that and I understand that Mike's a great player and he's playing great. Again, I want to be out there, and the hardest thing is, you want to go battle with your guys. We spent a lot of time together and I want out there and fighting every down with them," he said.

He would not answer when asked if he lost his job because he got hurt, but said he was surprised by the decision. Asked if Reid made the right choice, Kolb said, "he feels that way and he's the head coach."

Cliffy6745

The Jeagler wrote:

Reid: Vick to start for year; no guarantee Kolb will be on team after trade deadline
Michael Vick said he was "humbled" to learn he had been named the Eagles starter, completing a long journey from public pariah to face of the team. It's a move that seems set for the rest of the year: head coach Andy Reid said Vick is the starter for the remainder of the year.
Vick said even he was "sort of" surprised by his own performance in his six quarters this season.

"I know what I can do, but until you get out there and you actually do it, you really don't know if you're going to make the plays that you know you're capable of making," Vick told reporters before his first practice as the team's starting quarterback.

Vick said there were days he never thought he would play again the NFL. Now, he said he has to play hard and reward his coaches' faith in him.

It's unclear what Vick's long-term future will be though. Reid would not answer a question about whether the team will look to extend the quarterback's contract. He is in the final year of his deal with the Eagles.

Reid also would not guarantee that Kevin Kolb will remain with the team after the Oct. 19 trade deadline, despite touting Kolb's "bright future" in the NFL.

"I can’t predict anything down that far, nobody in this league can do that, that’s ridiculous," Reid said. "The future, we’ll just have to see."

Reid, however, said he wants Kolb on the Eagles.

"This is not about Kevin Kolb, this is about Michael Vick. Kevin Kolb has got a bright, bright future. I mean bright future ... but Michael Vick I think surprised all of us with his play."

Several players were asked about the change, they all stuck to the company line: they will support whatever their coaches decide.

Reid conceded that Kolb would not have lost his job had he not suffered a concussion against the Packers.

He said no one else pressed him to make the switch.

"I didn't talk to a player, I didn't talk to a coach, I talked to one guy for two days about this," Reid said -- referring to Kolb. "Whatever anyone else says about this, is not right."

Kolb took the high road when asked about the switch.

"The NFL is a tough spot and you have to compete every day. I understand that and I understand that Mike's a great player and he's playing great. Again, I want to be out there, and the hardest thing is, you want to go battle with your guys. We spent a lot of time together and I want out there and fighting every down with them," he said.

He would not answer when asked if he lost his job because he got hurt, but said he was surprised by the decision. Asked if Reid made the right choice, Kolb said, "he feels that way and he's the head coach."

So Vick is not going to take the Eagle anywhere and the Eagles have no future QB? Should be a fun next 5 years or so.

pjhawks

The Jeagler wrote:

yeah...pj hawks was saying he thinks vick will give us the better chance of beating the jags (mind you they are an atrocious football team ) this week but down the road kolb might be a better matchup verses another team.

"Win the next game and move on. Later in the season Kolb might give this team a better chance."


if that is what he really means, he just don't understand football. injuries happen. but nfl coaches don't look at the schedule and think one qb would fair better one week and then go with the other quarterback the next week. doesn't work that way. that's why....it never, ever, ever, ever, ever happens.

rightly or wrongly, vick is our qb whether people like it or not.

you must be taking lessons from The Fixer as you are twisting my words. at no point did i say it would definitely be revolving Quarterbacks. Right now Vick is the hot hand so you stay with him until he cools off or gets hurt. not a difficult concept.

and you are right NFL coaches don't look at schedules (but you do since you were so adament about looking at the schedule when making pre-season predictions) which is the EXACT REASON why Vick is currently starting - Vick is better TODAY for this team than Kolb. Not really hard to understand.

again i just can't comprehend why playing the best person TODAY for the job is such a complicated and controversial decision (other than many people don't want vick because he is a scumbag which i relate to). What is good for today might not be good 5 or 10 weeks down the line. Vick is playing well right now, Kolk coming off a severe concussion Vick is the better option right now. Later in the season if Vick struggles no reason why Kolb can't be the man again. why is this hard to understand guys?

edit: and take what Reid says to the media with a grain of salt - two days ago Kolb was his starting QB and now Vick is his starter for the rest of the season. means didly squat what he tells the media. if Vick sucks you can guarantee Kolb will be back in there.

The Juggler

Cliffy6745 wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

Reid: Vick to start for year; no guarantee Kolb will be on team after trade deadline
Michael Vick said he was "humbled" to learn he had been named the Eagles starter, completing a long journey from public pariah to face of the team. It's a move that seems set for the rest of the year: head coach Andy Reid said Vick is the starter for the remainder of the year.
Vick said even he was "sort of" surprised by his own performance in his six quarters this season.

"I know what I can do, but until you get out there and you actually do it, you really don't know if you're going to make the plays that you know you're capable of making," Vick told reporters before his first practice as the team's starting quarterback.

Vick said there were days he never thought he would play again the NFL. Now, he said he has to play hard and reward his coaches' faith in him.

It's unclear what Vick's long-term future will be though. Reid would not answer a question about whether the team will look to extend the quarterback's contract. He is in the final year of his deal with the Eagles.

Reid also would not guarantee that Kevin Kolb will remain with the team after the Oct. 19 trade deadline, despite touting Kolb's "bright future" in the NFL.

"I can’t predict anything down that far, nobody in this league can do that, that’s ridiculous," Reid said. "The future, we’ll just have to see."

Reid, however, said he wants Kolb on the Eagles.

"This is not about Kevin Kolb, this is about Michael Vick. Kevin Kolb has got a bright, bright future. I mean bright future ... but Michael Vick I think surprised all of us with his play."

Several players were asked about the change, they all stuck to the company line: they will support whatever their coaches decide.

Reid conceded that Kolb would not have lost his job had he not suffered a concussion against the Packers.

He said no one else pressed him to make the switch.

"I didn't talk to a player, I didn't talk to a coach, I talked to one guy for two days about this," Reid said -- referring to Kolb. "Whatever anyone else says about this, is not right."

Kolb took the high road when asked about the switch.

"The NFL is a tough spot and you have to compete every day. I understand that and I understand that Mike's a great player and he's playing great. Again, I want to be out there, and the hardest thing is, you want to go battle with your guys. We spent a lot of time together and I want out there and fighting every down with them," he said.

He would not answer when asked if he lost his job because he got hurt, but said he was surprised by the decision. Asked if Reid made the right choice, Kolb said, "he feels that way and he's the head coach."

So Vick is not going to take the Eagle anywhere and the Eagles have no future QB? Should be a fun next 5 years or so.

reid believes he can turn vick into the next steve young. i'd be shocked if he's not here for 3 or 4 more years.

Cliffy6745

The Jeagler wrote:

reid believes he can turn vick into the next steve young. i'd be shocked if he's not here for 3 or 4 more years.

Seems like a bit of a stretch to me.

Edit: Are you happy about this? Does not seem like a very good idea to me but I also don't follow the Eagles all that much.

81

drama lama is going to rear it's ugly head in philly.

The Fixer

Cliffy6745 wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

reid believes he can turn vick into the next steve young. i'd be shocked if he's not here for 3 or 4 more years.

Seems like a bit of a stretch to me.

Edit: Are you happy about this? Does not seem like a very good idea to me but I also don't follow the Eagles all that much.

I'm one of the biggest andy reid supporters in philly, but I have no clue what he is thinking. I liked all the moves they made leading up to the season. NOt sure what they are doing now that the season has started.

PJhawks, I was just gonna post the same thing regarding what reid says in the media. People should know that by now, the dude has been saying one thing and doing the opposite for 10 years.

I don't know how any sane eagles fan (they are few and far between) can be happy that vick is the starter.

The Juggler

Cliffy6745 wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

reid believes he can turn vick into the next steve young. i'd be shocked if he's not here for 3 or 4 more years.

Seems like a bit of a stretch to me.

Edit: Are you happy about this? Does not seem like a very good idea to me but I also don't follow the Eagles all that much.

i would have canned reid last year and kept donovan.

this mess is all reid's doing...from signing vick last year to trading your star qb and awarding kolb 12M to takeover and then yanking him after 10 pass attempts. plus he didn't draft a single offensive lineman for depth this past april (a lot of people are saying one of the reasons for the move is they are scared kolb would have gotten killed behind that line).

so i'm pretty torn. vick obviously gives them a better chance to win right now. reid thinks they are good enough to win obviously. i saw about 9 wins at the beginning of the season with kolb before they lost their center and pro bowl full back. those are HUGE losses. vick's elusiveness can counter thoses losses to a degree. so i don't know. gonna be interesting. that much is a guarantee.

The Juggler

The Fixer wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

reid believes he can turn vick into the next steve young. i'd be shocked if he's not here for 3 or 4 more years.

Seems like a bit of a stretch to me.

Edit: Are you happy about this? Does not seem like a very good idea to me but I also don't follow the Eagles all that much.

PJhawks, I was just gonna post the same thing regarding what reid says in the media. People should know that by now, the dude has been saying one thing and doing the opposite for 10 years.

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reid's also smart enough to know that you have to stick with 1 qb once you make a decision. he's made that decision whether we like or not.

The Juggler

pjhawks wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

yeah...pj hawks was saying he thinks vick will give us the better chance of beating the jags (mind you they are an atrocious football team ) this week but down the road kolb might be a better matchup verses another team.

"Win the next game and move on. Later in the season Kolb might give this team a better chance."


if that is what he really means, he just don't understand football. injuries happen. but nfl coaches don't look at the schedule and think one qb would fair better one week and then go with the other quarterback the next week. doesn't work that way. that's why....it never, ever, ever, ever, ever happens.

rightly or wrongly, vick is our qb whether people like it or not.

you must be taking lessons from The Fixer as you are twisting my words. at no point did i say it would definitely be revolving Quarterbacks. Right now Vick is the hot hand so you stay with him until he cools off or gets hurt. not a difficult concept.

that's the definition of a revolving door. vick's the guy dude. gotta get used to it.

and mentiong "if he gets hurt" is ridiculous to even bring up. obvously kolb would come in if that would happen. he's the number 2 qb if he doesn't get traded.

Phantom Pain

metsfan wrote:

page 14 and 15 is pure gold

Wow...bored at work I was reading it and have to agree



Jeags and Fixer need another few page battle !

Phantom Pain

The Jeagler wrote:

if we end up winning 7 or 8 games with vick starting (mind you, most thought we'd have won that same amount with kolb)...after all the nonsense andy has brought upon this team over the last year.....how does he not get fired?

his job is on the line right now. this team better somehow find a way to contend this year.

Is Andy the Tony Dungy of PHI ?

A lot of wins...divison titles...playoff appearances but no SB Victories

Tony was canned as should AR be

The Juggler

Phantom Pain wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

if we end up winning 7 or 8 games with vick starting (mind you, most thought we'd have won that same amount with kolb)...after all the nonsense andy has brought upon this team over the last year.....how does he not get fired?

his job is on the line right now. this team better somehow find a way to contend this year.

Is Andy the Tony Dungy of PHI ?

A lot of wins...divison titles...playoff appearances but no SB Victories

Tony was canned as should AR be

more like marty schotenheimer

Phantom Pain

The Jeagler wrote:

Phantom Pain wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

if we end up winning 7 or 8 games with vick starting (mind you, most thought we'd have won that same amount with kolb)...after all the nonsense andy has brought upon this team over the last year.....how does he not get fired?

his job is on the line right now. this team better somehow find a way to contend this year.

Is Andy the Tony Dungy of PHI ?

A lot of wins...divison titles...playoff appearances but no SB Victories

Tony was canned as should AR be

more like marty schotenheimer

I didn't think Marty won that many playoff games ?

The Fixer

Phantom Pain wrote:

metsfan wrote:

page 14 and 15 is pure gold

Wow...bored at work I was reading it and have to agree



Jeags and Fixer need another few page battle !

haha, good times. me and the jeagler have a love/hate relationship. we like to keep things interesting around here

Flagg

I sure am glad another team is going through chaos right now. Let's me know the Cowboys aren't the only dysfunctional organization out there.

Jearlpam0925

Not to get too fantasy-nerd, but people are BOMBARDING me with trade offers for Vick. Love it.