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  • pearljgirl2010
    pearljgirl2010 Shillington, PA/Tuckerton, NJ Posts: 3,428
    The Fixer wrote:
    pearljgirl2010 wrote:
    wowzers...I'm definitely surprised that Andy isn't giving Kolb a chance here...interesting development, and I think I like it!

    oh god. I don't like it at all

    I've never been a fan of Kolb--and I think having a QB who can actually MOVE is positive...I definitely don't like some of the awful errors tht Vick can make, but maybe those will become fewer as time goes on.
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  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    The Jeagler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Just heard. what a fucking mess


    jamminpearls might want to alter his fantasy lineup :lol::lol:
    Lol,im pissed but still have Orton and the old old man. horrible decesion inless Vicks are guy for the next 3-5yrs imo.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    edited September 2010
    pearljgirl2010 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    pearljgirl2010 wrote:
    wowzers...I'm definitely surprised that Andy isn't giving Kolb a chance here...interesting development, and I think I like it!

    oh god. I don't like it at all

    I've never been a fan of Kolb--and I think having a QB who can actually MOVE is positive...I definitely don't like some of the awful errors tht Vick can make, but maybe those will become fewer as time goes on.

    makes no sense to me. they aren't winning it all this year even with peyton manning as their QB. might as well let kolb play to see if he's the QB of the future. we already know vick isn't leading this team to the SB if he re-signs in philly.

    I don't get it. I love andy reid, but I think the big guy needs his head examined after this decision
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Jeagler wrote:
    fixer and andy reid might finally be on the outs.
    :lol:

    We aren't talking right now. I am so disappointed
  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    fixer and andy reid might finally be on the outs.
    :lol:

    We aren't talking right now. I am so disappointed
    I for once agree 100% with the fixer
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    pearljgirl2010 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    pearljgirl2010 wrote:
    wowzers...I'm definitely surprised that Andy isn't giving Kolb a chance here...interesting development, and I think I like it!

    oh god. I don't like it at all

    I've never been a fan of Kolb--and I think having a QB who can actually MOVE is positive...I definitely don't like some of the awful errors tht Vick can make, but maybe those will become fewer as time goes on.

    kolb would have been sacked a minimum of 10 times sunday. maybe andy is just trying to not get him killed. :lol:
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Jeagler wrote:

    kolb would have been sacked a minimum of 10 times sunday. maybe andy is just trying to not get him killed. :lol:

    doesn't matter. gotta let the dude play. aikman, eli, peyton all took their lumps when they were first starting in the NFL.

    I just don't get the rationale behind this decision at all. I'm so confused. If they were gonna give the job to vick they should have just kept mcnabb.
  • pearljgirl2010
    pearljgirl2010 Shillington, PA/Tuckerton, NJ Posts: 3,428
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    kolb would have been sacked a minimum of 10 times sunday. maybe andy is just trying to not get him killed. :lol:

    doesn't matter. gotta let the dude play. aikman, eli, peyton all took their lumps when they were first starting in the NFL.

    I just don't get the rationale behind this decision at all. I'm so confused. If they were gonna give the job to vick they should have just kept mcnabb.


    While I like Vick better than Kolb (and while I agree with The Jeagler about Kolb getting sacked repeatedly), I think Kolb deserved his chance--because he certainly didn't get it during the first game. Who knows--maybe good ol' Andy just wants to shake things up a little!
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    kolb would have been sacked a minimum of 10 times sunday. maybe andy is just trying to not get him killed. :lol:

    doesn't matter. gotta let the dude play. aikman, eli, peyton all took their lumps when they were first starting in the NFL.

    I just don't get the rationale behind this decision at all. I'm so confused. If they were gonna give the job to vick they should have just kept mcnabb.

    yup
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    if we end up winning 7 or 8 games with vick starting (mind you, most thought we'd have won that same amount with kolb)...after all the nonsense andy has brought upon this team over the last year.....how does he not get fired?

    his job is on the line right now. this team better somehow find a way to contend this year.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    pearljgirl2010 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    kolb would have been sacked a minimum of 10 times sunday. maybe andy is just trying to not get him killed. :lol:

    doesn't matter. gotta let the dude play. aikman, eli, peyton all took their lumps when they were first starting in the NFL.

    I just don't get the rationale behind this decision at all. I'm so confused. If they were gonna give the job to vick they should have just kept mcnabb.


    While I like Vick better than Kolb (and while I agree with The Jeagler about Kolb getting sacked repeatedly), I think Kolb deserved his chance--because he certainly didn't get it during the first game. Who knows--maybe good ol' Andy just wants to shake things up a little!

    so you're saying kolb had his chance, even though it was only one half of football? he looked pretty damned good last year in the 2 games he played.

    I love how vick lights up the worst team in football and eagles fans think he's good.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Jeagler wrote:
    if we end up winning 7 or 8 games with vick starting (mind you, most thought we'd have won that same amount with kolb)...after all the nonsense andy has brought upon this team over the last year.....how does he not get fired?

    his job is on the line right now. this team better somehow find a way to contend this year.

    regardless of their QB, they were not gonna be good enough to contend this year. That's why this move is so perplexing. This season should be all about letting the young guys play together and building a foundation for the future. Wins are secondary for 2010.

    Inserting vick into this scenario is like pounding a round peg into a square hole. I really don't understand it.

    As for Reid...I completely disagree with this decision (and his decision to sign vick in the first place), but I don't think his job is on the line yet. The team isn't ready to contend. That being said, I have no clue what the fuck he's planning for the future. If vick is the QB in 2011 he should be canned. Vick will never win a SB. Like I said, I'd much rather have mcnabb than vick.

    this is so frustrating. I think andy reid is on the same drugs as his sons
  • pearljgirl2010
    pearljgirl2010 Shillington, PA/Tuckerton, NJ Posts: 3,428
    The Fixer wrote:
    pearljgirl2010 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    doesn't matter. gotta let the dude play. aikman, eli, peyton all took their lumps when they were first starting in the NFL.

    I just don't get the rationale behind this decision at all. I'm so confused. If they were gonna give the job to vick they should have just kept mcnabb.


    While I like Vick better than Kolb (and while I agree with The Jeagler about Kolb getting sacked repeatedly), I think Kolb deserved his chance--because he certainly didn't get it during the first game. Who knows--maybe good ol' Andy just wants to shake things up a little!

    so you're saying kolb had his chance, even though it was only one half of football? he looked pretty damned good last year in the 2 games he played.

    I love how vick lights up the worst team in football and eagles fans think he's good.

    no, no...you misunderstood me. I'm saying that Kolb DIDN'T get a chance in that first game, and that he deserved to start in the next one. I don't think Vick should have been named started right now. I just like his offense better.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    The Fixer wrote:
    pearljgirl2010 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:


    While I like Vick better than Kolb (and while I agree with The Jeagler about Kolb getting sacked repeatedly), I think Kolb deserved his chance--because he certainly didn't get it during the first game. Who knows--maybe good ol' Andy just wants to shake things up a little!

    so you're saying kolb had his chance, even though it was only one half of football? he looked pretty damned good last year in the 2 games he played.

    I love how vick lights up the worst team in football and andy reid think he's good.

    fixed.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    if we end up winning 7 or 8 games with vick starting (mind you, most thought we'd have won that same amount with kolb)...after all the nonsense andy has brought upon this team over the last year.....how does he not get fired?

    his job is on the line right now. this team better somehow find a way to contend this year.

    regardless of their QB, they were not gonna be good enough to contend this year. That's why this move is so perplexing. This season should be all about letting the young guys play together and building a foundation for the future. Wins are secondary for 2010.

    Inserting vick into this scenario is like pounding a round peg into a square hole. I really don't understand it.

    As for Reid...I completely disagree with this decision (and his decision to sign vick in the first place), but I don't think his job is on the line yet. The team isn't ready to contend. That being said, I have no clue what the fuck he's planning for the future. If vick is the QB in 2011 he should be canned. Vick will never win a SB. Like I said, I'd much rather have mcnabb than vick.

    this is so frustrating. I think andy reid is on the same drugs as his sons

    g cobb pretty much predicted this earlier today. great article on how reid thinks he mold vick into a steve young type of qb:
    http://www.gcobb.com/2010/09/21/nfl-sou ... hael-vick/

    i'm pretty torn over this right now.

    you obviously have a completely different viewpoint on this season than your boy does. reid clearly thinks they can contend and he thinks vick gives them a better chance of doing so. (thats why i think his job is on the line---if they dont make the playoffs, he wasted a season of development on the qb he annointed the started and gave $12,000,000 to---not to mention trading the face of the franchise in favor of :roll: ). i think he envisions signing vick to an extension....if he plays well i wouldnt be surprised if they do it during the season actually. who knows, he may be right. i at least give andy credit for admitting a mistake so quickly. he is usually so stuborn it takes years to undo his bad decisions.....that said--kolb got the biggest shaft in the history of shafts today. you gotta feel bad. reid gave him absolutely no chance of succeeding.

    hate when people say so and so will never win a super bowl or a championship. its a lazy argument. way too many variables involved.

    one thing you never accuse the eagles of being is boring....though this kind of makes the donovan bowl a litle anticlimatic. :lol:
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Jeagler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    so you're saying kolb had his chance, even though it was only one half of football? he looked pretty damned good last year in the 2 games he played.

    I love how vick lights up the worst team in football and andy reid think he's good.

    fixed.[/quote]

    nice.

    philly fans too though. there was a poll on DNL the other day and over 70% of fans want vick to start. clueless
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    edited September 2010
    The Jeagler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    if we end up winning 7 or 8 games with vick starting (mind you, most thought we'd have won that same amount with kolb)...after all the nonsense andy has brought upon this team over the last year.....how does he not get fired?

    his job is on the line right now. this team better somehow find a way to contend this year.

    regardless of their QB, they were not gonna be good enough to contend this year. That's why this move is so perplexing. This season should be all about letting the young guys play together and building a foundation for the future. Wins are secondary for 2010.

    Inserting vick into this scenario is like pounding a round peg into a square hole. I really don't understand it.

    As for Reid...I completely disagree with this decision (and his decision to sign vick in the first place), but I don't think his job is on the line yet. The team isn't ready to contend. That being said, I have no clue what the fuck he's planning for the future. If vick is the QB in 2011 he should be canned. Vick will never win a SB. Like I said, I'd much rather have mcnabb than vick.

    this is so frustrating. I think andy reid is on the same drugs as his sons

    g cobb pretty much predicted this earlier today. great article on how reid thinks he mold vick into a steve young type of qb:
    http://www.gcobb.com/2010/09/21/nfl-sou ... hael-vick/

    i'm pretty torn over this right now.

    you obviously have a completely different viewpoint on this season than your boy does. reid clearly thinks they can contend and he thinks vick gives them a better chance of doing so. (thats why i think his job is on the line---if they dont make the playoffs, he wasted a season of development on the qb he annointed the started and gave $12,000,000 to---not to mention trading the face of the franchise in favor of :roll: ). i think he envisions signing vick to an extension....if he plays well i wouldnt be surprised if they do it during the season actually. who knows, he may be right. i at least give andy credit for admitting a mistake so quickly. he is usually so stuborn it takes years to undo his bad decisions.....that said--kolb got the biggest shaft in the history of shafts today. you gotta feel bad. reid gave him absolutely no chance of succeeding.

    hate when people say so and so will never win a super bowl or a championship. its a lazy argument. way too many variables involved.

    one thing you never accuse the eagles of being is boring....though this kind of makes the donovan bowl a litle anticlimatic. :lol:

    I'm so shaken up I don't even know how to respond. I feel like cameron in ferris buehler's day off when he realized the mileage in his dad's car was off.

    2 things

    1 - I still don't see the upside in annointing vick the QB

    2 - I need to find a way to root for the eagles, but against vick. that's gonna be tough

    Also, I will never read a gcobb article. ever.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    so you're saying kolb had his chance, even though it was only one half of football? he looked pretty damned good last year in the 2 games he played.

    I love how vick lights up the worst team in football and andy reid think he's good.

    fixed.

    nice.

    philly fans too though. there was a poll on DNL the other day and over 70% of fans want vick to start. clueless[/quote]

    everyone but you is clueless apparently.

    vegas included. i'd be surprised if the line doesn't move up to 4 or 4.5 or so by the end of the week.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,919
    I hate Vick and think he is a scumbag as much as the next guy, but the bottom line is he probably does give this team a better chance of winning right now than Kolb. the fact is the offensive line hasn't looked good, and putting Vick's mobility in play is better for this team today that Kolb. I don't see it as an indictment of Kolb or a long term solution - it's about winning now. also putting a young QB into a situation with a bad o-line could be a disaster for his development.

    I agree with the Fixer on one thing - how can i find a way to cheer for the Eagles but not Vick?
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    pjhawks wrote:
    I hate Vick and think he is a scumbag as much as the next guy, but the bottom line is he probably does give this team a better chance of winning right now than Kolb. the fact is the offensive line hasn't looked good, and putting Vick's mobility in play is better for this team today that Kolb. I don't see it as an indictment of Kolb or a long term solution - it's about winning now. also putting a young QB into a situation with a bad o-line could be a disaster for his development.

    I agree with the Fixer on one thing - how can i find a way to cheer for the Eagles but not Vick?


    kolb's done dude. reid completely screwed him. he'll be elsewhere next year most likely. how can he trust reid at this point anyway? my guess is vick is signed long term by end of season.

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