i think that's kolb's 5th pick-6 of his young career.... :roll:
gotta be able to put a game like this away. young team. this is what young team's do unfortunately.
skins and birds both 4-3 heading into our bye weekend. so far this season, record-wise, is playing out just as i thought it would. 2nd half is going to be extremely tough. that is why this one is a big loss.
expect vick to be behind center in 2 weeks...
what a rough weekend here in philly.......wow
Flyers won
:thumbup:
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i think that's kolb's 5th pick-6 of his young career.... :roll:
gotta be able to put a game like this away. young team. this is what young team's do unfortunately.
skins and birds both 4-3 heading into our bye weekend. so far this season, record-wise, is playing out just as i thought it would. 2nd half is going to be extremely tough. that is why this one is a big loss.
i think that's kolb's 5th pick-6 of his young career.... :roll:
gotta be able to put a game like this away. young team. this is what young team's do unfortunately.
skins and birds both 4-3 heading into our bye weekend. so far this season, record-wise, is playing out just as i thought it would. 2nd half is going to be extremely tough. that is why this one is a big loss.
expect vick to be behind center in 2 weeks...
what a rough weekend here in philly.......wow
Flyers won
:thumbup:
hockey started already?
:evil:
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you guys took this one right out of the cowboys and chargers playbook for how to be a better team and still lose. it really makes you hate football, believe me.
you guys took this one right out of the cowboys and chargers playbook for how to be a better team and still lose. it really makes you hate football, believe me.
our playbooks are different because we're rebuilding. those teams are expected to go deep in the playoffs this year. nobody expects that out of this year's birds.
our playbooks are different because we're rebuilding. those teams are expected to go deep in the playoffs this year. nobody expects that out of this year's birds.
My only argument about this being a rebuilding year for you guys is: Why don't they just stick with Kolb and let him work out the kinks now? He has some good potential but he keeps having to look over his shoulder.
our playbooks are different because we're rebuilding. those teams are expected to go deep in the playoffs this year. nobody expects that out of this year's birds.
My only argument about this being a rebuilding year for you guys is: Why don't they just stick with Kolb and let him work out the kinks now? He has some good potential but he keeps having to look over his shoulder.
you guys took this one right out of the cowboys and chargers playbook for how to be a better team and still lose.
the cowboys have a playbook? :wtf: you'd never know.
If I had known then what I know now...
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Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
This team has some nice pieces in place, but they just aren't ready to contend. The secondary and o-line must be addressed in the offseason.
I like the direction they are headed. Just a year or two away from being serious contenders. Now if we could just get vick to go away
Reid has done a great job with this team and the roster
secondary has actually played well up until the 4th quarter on sunday. ellis hobbs is garbage. the other 3 are solid. (allen had his first bad game this week--overall solid so far)
the o line is just besieged with injuries. not much you can do about that....but it would have been nice if reid drafted at least one lineman for depth last april though. :roll:
with all that, and with the qb shuffle reid's got going on....8 or 9 wins will get you a wild card this year. they'll be in the mix for that.
This team has some nice pieces in place, but they just aren't ready to contend. The secondary and o-line must be addressed in the offseason.
I like the direction they are headed. Just a year or two away from being serious contenders. Now if we could just get vick to go away
Reid has done a great job with this team and the roster
secondary has actually played well up until the 4th quarter on sunday. ellis hobbs is garbage. the other 3 are solid. (allen had his first bad game this week--overall solid so far)
the o line is just besieged with injuries. not much you can do about that....but it would have been nice if reid drafted at least one lineman for depth last april though. :roll:
with all that, and with the qb shuffle reid's got going on....8 or 9 wins will get you a wild card this year. they'll be in the mix for that.
their secondary has been pretty shitty. hanson and hobbs are both awful. and mikell only plays well every other game (usually against shitty teams). they need to start playing patterson over hanson or hobbs. that dude is a more athletic version of sheldon brown. allen was horrible on sunday, but he's gonna be fine.
what happened to that dude that came on here in the preseason and tried telling us that sheldon brown was a top 5 NFL CB? that guy was funny
This team has some nice pieces in place, but they just aren't ready to contend. The secondary and o-line must be addressed in the offseason.
I like the direction they are headed. Just a year or two away from being serious contenders. Now if we could just get vick to go away
Reid has done a great job with this team and the roster
secondary has actually played well up until the 4th quarter on sunday. ellis hobbs is garbage. the other 3 are solid. (allen had his first bad game this week--overall solid so far)
the o line is just besieged with injuries. not much you can do about that....but it would have been nice if reid drafted at least one lineman for depth last april though. :roll:
with all that, and with the qb shuffle reid's got going on....8 or 9 wins will get you a wild card this year. they'll be in the mix for that.
their secondary has been pretty shitty. hanson and hobbs are both awful. and mikell only plays well every other game (usually against shitty teams). they need to start playing patterson over hanson or hobbs. that dude is a more athletic version of sheldon brown. allen was horrible on sunday, but he's gonna be fine.
what happened to that dude that came on here in the preseason and tried telling us that sheldon brown was a top 5 NFL CB? that guy was funny
my problem with the secondary is they are all small...and always have been under this regime since b taylor left. the only big-ish corner reid ever drafted was matt fucking ware. that did not turn out too well. with dez bryant looking like he's going to be solid, he's gotta buck up and take a bigger corner in the draft.
the defense really let us down in the 4th quarter against the titans. but you cant get too high or too low on a week to week basis. overall, they're the 9th ranked d in the league right now. gotta be better. but they're young and games like sunday will happen. mcdermott can do a much better job with his adjustments or lack there of though. i also don't like how they keep moving graham around and not letting the kid find himself out there on the field.
my problem with the secondary is they are all small...and always have been under this regime since b taylor left. the only big-ish corner reid ever drafted was matt fucking ware. that did not turn out too well. with dez bryant looking like he's going to be solid, he's gotta buck up and take a bigger corner in the draft.
the defense really let us down in the 4th quarter against the titans. but you cant get too high or too low on a week to week basis. overall, they're the 9th ranked d in the league right now. gotta be better. but they're young and games like sunday will happen. mcdermott can do a much better job with his adjustments or lack there of though. i also don't like how they keep moving graham around and not letting the kid find himself out there on the field.
good point with the size issue. that probably has something to do with why they get shredded by TEs too.
I really think those offensive/defensive rankings are a waste of time. they're all based on yardage. points for and against are really all that matters. the eagles defense has let up wayyy too many points. and their schedule hasn't been tough at all (SF, Jax, Atlanta w/o Ryan, wash, detroit).
The defense just isn't good. At least we can take solace in the fact that they're young. The secondary needs upgrading
my problem with the secondary is they are all small...and always have been under this regime since b taylor left. the only big-ish corner reid ever drafted was matt fucking ware. that did not turn out too well. with dez bryant looking like he's going to be solid, he's gotta buck up and take a bigger corner in the draft.
the defense really let us down in the 4th quarter against the titans. but you cant get too high or too low on a week to week basis. overall, they're the 9th ranked d in the league right now. gotta be better. but they're young and games like sunday will happen. mcdermott can do a much better job with his adjustments or lack there of though. i also don't like how they keep moving graham around and not letting the kid find himself out there on the field.
good point with the size issue. that probably has something to do with why they get shredded by TEs too.
I really think those offensive/defensive rankings are a waste of time. they're all based on yardage. points for and against are really all that matters. the eagles defense has let up wayyy too many points. and their schedule hasn't been tough at all (SF, Jax, Atlanta w/o Ryan, wash, detroit).
The defense just isn't good. At least we can take solace in the fact that they're young. The secondary needs upgrading
look at the teams in the top 10 and tell me that yardage is not a good indictor
birds were averaging about 19 ppg before the titans game which was top 10 also....then the 4th quarter from hell happened. young team. shit happens.
they're better than people think. there's talent on that side of the football.
my problem with the secondary is they are all small...and always have been under this regime since b taylor left. the only big-ish corner reid ever drafted was matt fucking ware. that did not turn out too well. with dez bryant looking like he's going to be solid, he's gotta buck up and take a bigger corner in the draft.
the defense really let us down in the 4th quarter against the titans. but you cant get too high or too low on a week to week basis. overall, they're the 9th ranked d in the league right now. gotta be better. but they're young and games like sunday will happen. mcdermott can do a much better job with his adjustments or lack there of though. i also don't like how they keep moving graham around and not letting the kid find himself out there on the field.
good point with the size issue. that probably has something to do with why they get shredded by TEs too.
I really think those offensive/defensive rankings are a waste of time. they're all based on yardage. points for and against are really all that matters. the eagles defense has let up wayyy too many points. and their schedule hasn't been tough at all (SF, Jax, Atlanta w/o Ryan, wash, detroit).
The defense just isn't good. At least we can take solace in the fact that they're young. The secondary needs upgrading
look at the teams in the top 10 and tell me that yardage is not a good indictor
birds were averaging about 19 ppg before the titans game which was top 10 also....then the 4th quarter from hell happened. young team. shit happens.
they're better than people think. there's talent on that side of the football.
I know SD was first in offense and defense going into week 7. good job there
good point with the size issue. that probably has something to do with why they get shredded by TEs too.
I really think those offensive/defensive rankings are a waste of time. they're all based on yardage. points for and against are really all that matters. the eagles defense has let up wayyy too many points. and their schedule hasn't been tough at all (SF, Jax, Atlanta w/o Ryan, wash, detroit).
The defense just isn't good. At least we can take solace in the fact that they're young. The secondary needs upgrading
look at the teams in the top 10 and tell me that yardage is not a good indictor
birds were averaging about 19 ppg before the titans game which was top 10 also....then the 4th quarter from hell happened. young team. shit happens.
they're better than people think. there's talent on that side of the football.
I know SD was first in offense and defense going into week 7. good job there
okay. sd is always strong d and usually starts off slow. i don't know what else to tell you...GO BIRDS.
I know SD was first in offense and defense going into week 7. good job there
okay. i don't know what else to tell you then...
yardage totals don't tell you how good a unit is. buffalo probably has a high ranking pass offense. are they one of the best passing teams in the NFL? no way. it's a bad gauge is all I'm saying.
eagles have allowed 13 TD passes this year. they allowed 27 all of last year.
baldinger is on comcast burying the secondary. he sounds like me
I know SD was first in offense and defense going into week 7. good job there
okay. i don't know what else to tell you then...
yardage totals don't tell you how good a unit is. buffalo probably has a high ranking pass offense. are they one of the best passing teams in the NFL? no way. it's a bad gauge is all I'm saying.
eagles have allowed 13 TD passes this year. they allowed 27 all of last year.
baldinger is on comcast burying the secondary. he sounds like me
yes it does. it doesnt give you a complete picture. but it certainly gives you an idea of how good a team is. sd is averaging 240 yds/game. that's pretty damn good. ppg, like every other stat, is misleading too because it doesn't account for turnovers and starting field position etc etc etc. the birds were at 19 ppg heading into last week which was, i think, 10th in the league. 15 bad minutes drops them all the way down to 22...which is 20th.
he should kill the secondary. i've done it this week. and most people did. it looked porous on sunday. but midway-ish through the season, 13 td's will put them right around where they ended up last year. not sure how that helps your point.
yes it does. it doesnt give you a complete picture. but it certainly gives you an idea of how good a team is. sd is averaging 240 yds/game. that's pretty damn good. ppg, like every other stat, is misleading too because it doesn't account for turnovers and starting field position etc etc etc. the birds were at 19 ppg heading into last week which was, i think, 10th in the league. 15 bad minutes drops them all the way down to 22...which is 20th.
he should kill the secondary. i've done it this week. and most people did. it looked porous on sunday. but midway-ish through the season, 13 td's will put them right around where they ended up last year. not sure how that helps your point.
secondary was supposed to be improved this year (just by not having macho harris in a starting role). they're gonna give up more passing TDs this year than they did last year.
I ignore the yardage totals. They have no correlation to game situations.
yes it does. it doesnt give you a complete picture. but it certainly gives you an idea of how good a team is. sd is averaging 240 yds/game. that's pretty damn good. ppg, like every other stat, is misleading too because it doesn't account for turnovers and starting field position etc etc etc. the birds were at 19 ppg heading into last week which was, i think, 10th in the league. 15 bad minutes drops them all the way down to 22...which is 20th.
he should kill the secondary. i've done it this week. and most people did. it looked porous on sunday. but midway-ish through the season, 13 td's will put them right around where they ended up last year. not sure how that helps your point.
secondary was supposed to be improved this year (just by not having macho harris in a starting role). they're gonna give up more passing TDs this year than they did last year.
I ignore the yardage totals. They have no correlation to game situations.
This team is going 8-8, just like I predicted
yes they most certainly do.
i think about 90% of us predicted 8-8.
and most people thought the secondary was a work in progress going in with ellis hobbs replacing sheldon and a rookie at saftey. i've said all along that by the end of the year they should be playing much better and i think, with the exception of hobbs who i don't want to see back next year, they will. they need to time to grow together as a unit. if anything mcdermott should get a huge amount of the blame for not making any adjustments late in the titans game.
overall the d is a work in progress. lotta young bucks. it's about where one would expect it to be at this point in the season. can't get too high or too low on a week by week basis. but you really gotta love holding frank gore to 52 yards and then chris johnson to 66 yards in consecutive weeks. very encouraging.
MID SEASON REPORT CARD
It's the Eagles' fall break so we offer our midterm grades for the team's Class of 2010-11:
OFFENSE (B)
Since the horrendous first half against Green Bay in the opener, the Eagles’ offense has found its groove, whether it has been Michael Vick or Kevin Kolb under center. That’s a notable achievement considering that the quarterbacks have dissimilar styles. Offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg deserves credit for formulating successful game plans that cater to each quarterback.
His spread-’em-out scheme against the Lions worked to perfection, as did his misdirection-filled play-calling against the Falcons. He could not find a way to penetrate the Redskins’ Cover-2 defense, however, and made some questionable late-game decisions (Chad Hall?) in the Titans loss.
Mornhinweg cannot be tagged for the offensive line’s woes. That blame rests solely on coach Andy Reid, who made the Stacy Andrews-Jason Peters mistakes and did nothing to upgrade the unit in the off-season.
Running backs (A-): LeSean McCoy has done it all: He has rushed for a healthy 4.5 yards per carry and five touchdowns and has led the team with 38 receptions. Even more impressive is how he has done it: with a broken rib and often making tacklers miss. Owen Schmitt has been a nice surprise, providing strong blocking and reliable hands when needed. The Mike Bell bust brings the grade down. The Eagles don’t have a reliable complement to McCoy — or a backup if Shady gets hurt.
Quarterbacks (A-): How did the Eagles get here? Oh, right, they traded Donovan McNabb and handed the job to Kolb. He got hurt, and Vick stepped in and played well. Kolb was demoted, and Vick was given the starting spot. Vick got hurt, and Kolb stepped in and played well. And now, Vick, supposedly close to recovery, will return and start against the Colts on Nov. 7.
Whew. For all the chaos, the quarterback position has been one of the brighter spots for the Eagles, especially when you compare the performance of Vick/Kolb to the way McNabb has played in Washington. Now there’s a quarterback dilemma.
Wide receivers/tight ends (B): The grade of the Eagles’ pass catchers is weighed down slightly by Brent Celek. A year after his breakout season, the tight end’s numbers are down across the board. Starting wideouts DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin have been dazzling for the most part. But Jackson had his concussion, and even before that he was having trouble getting the ball. Jason Avant’s production has slipped, but Riley Cooper appears to be a keeper and could see more time in the second half of the season.
Offensive line (C-): The Eagles have allowed 21 sacks, second worst in the league, and 41 quarterback hits, third worst. Those numbers would be worse if not for some Vick heroics. The line seemed to stabilize until the Tennessee game. The linemen have done well downfield to help pop some big screen plays, and the running game has been moving well. But the blocking crew has combined for 17 penalties, led by Peters’ five.
DEFENSE (C+)
The Eagles are giving up 22.4 points per game, 20th in the NFL, and every time they plug one leak, another seems to open. Most important, they have allowed three big fourth quarters. The D has created some big plays, though. The Eagles’ 16 takeaways are tied for fourth in the NFL, and their 21 sacks rank fifth.
Defensive line (B): Because of the pressure generated by the front four, the Eagles haven’t had to blitz as much as they did last season. Their defense, led by relentless end Trent Cole’s six quarterback sacks, is fifth in the league in sacks per pass attempt. End Juqua Parker got off to a fast start but has cooled despite more snaps. Top draft pick Brandon Graham is going through obvious growing pains. The middle of the line has been an improvement over last season because backups Trevor Laws and Antonio Dixon have progressed.
Linebackers (C): Stewart Bradley and Ernie Sims rank third and fifth on the team in tackles, but they often are making stops after allowing decent gains. We rarely see this group in the opposing backfield, and a few tight ends have gotten loose on them. The linebackers as a whole have combined for two sacks and no interceptions. Moise Fokou has helped since taking over for Akeem Jordan.
Defensive backs (C): If report cards were handed out before the Titans game, this group might have fared better. But cornerback Ellis Hobbs and free safety Nate Allen were so bad in that game that it’s hard to justify a higher mark. Hobbs was just OK before the Tennessee debacle, anyway. Allen was better, equaling cornerback Asante Samuel, with three interceptions. But he wasn’t tested very much considering that he is only a rookie. That should change. Samuel still has tackling issues, but he’s as good a cover man as there is. Strong safety Quintin Mikell looks more like his 2008 self.
SPECIAL TEAMS (C-)
The Eagles have been hurt by big returns that set up opposing scores. They are near the bottom of the league in both punt and kickoff coverage. The punt- and kick-return games have been average. Sav Rocca is in the top 10 in both punting average and net average. David Akers’ four misses tie him for third most in the NFL, although they all came in one bad week.
COACHING (B)
The impulse is to look at “The Tennessee Meltdown” and “The Washington Gut-Punch,” (Great rock band names, huh?) and conclude that Andy Reid and his assistants have done a subpar job through seven games. But factor in three road victories and an impressive stomping of Atlanta and what you have is pretty much what you would have expected in the bye week: a 4-3 record.
Expectations were tempered for a relatively young team before the season, with many forecasting a record between 8-8 and 10-6. But somewhere along the line (maybe it had something to do with the weak NFC), hopes were raised and then tempered in Tennessee.
Reid, too, got caught up in the fever and ditched his rebuilding, retooling, whatever-you-want-to-call-it plan
when he made the quarterback switch. It remains to be seen whether he made the right call. So far, with a patchwork offensive line and coordinator Sean McDermott’s Jekyll-and-Hyde defense, quarterback appears to be the least of his worries.
I sure as hell don't miss the guy. great move by reid
Shanahan is simply going by what he's seeing. I went back and looked at the first eight games of the Redskins' season. McNabb has had the ball four times inside the two-minute warning of the fourth quarter. Once, against Green Bay, he led Washington on a seven-play, 53-yard drive that ended in a game-tying field goal that forced overtime. On the other three drives, he threw one interception and couldn't get a first down on two others. Four two-minute drives at the end of games, three points. But that's not unlike McNabb's overall production. As of this morning, at the season's midpoint, he's the NFL's 25th-rated quarterback ... and he's also in the lower 20s in fourth-quarter passer rating. Don't show Washington owner Dan Snyder the quarterback rankings, by the way. McNabb's three spots behind Jason Campbell.
Oh, by the way, we are going to get shredded this week.
i see a shootout. indy's defense is not impressive. shady should have a good game. indy's 28th against the run. they are also beyond banged up right now...coming off a short week....with the meat of their schedule coming up in the weeks after our game. so the possibility for a let down is there. birds will have vick and desean back healthy. and it can only help matters that ellis hobbs will not be on the field .....also if reid does one thing well, it's game plan when he has all the time in the world to do so.
not saying this is a win. just saying don't be shocked to see this one pretty tight in the 4th.
all i know is, i'm taking the over...wherever it's at. :thumbup:
Oh, by the way, we are going to get shredded this week.
i see a shootout. indy's defense is not impressive. shady should have a good game. indy's 28th against the run. they are also beyond banged up right now...coming off a short week....with the meat of their schedule coming up in the weeks after our game. so the possibility for a let down is there. birds will have vick and desean back healthy. and it can only help matters that ellis hobbs will not be on the field .....also if reid does one thing well, it's game plan when he has all the time in the world to do so.
not saying this is a win. just saying don't be shocked to see this one pretty tight in the 4th.
all i know is, i'm taking the over...wherever it's at. :thumbup:
reid is 11-0 coming off the bye. that streak will end for 2 main reasons.
1 - the eagles secondary. manning might throw for 900 yards
2 - the indy pass rush. the eagles offensive line sucks to begin with and they're dealing with injuries.
Oh, by the way, we are going to get shredded this week.
i see a shootout. indy's defense is not impressive. shady should have a good game. indy's 28th against the run. they are also beyond banged up right now...coming off a short week....with the meat of their schedule coming up in the weeks after our game. so the possibility for a let down is there. birds will have vick and desean back healthy. and it can only help matters that ellis hobbs will not be on the field .....also if reid does one thing well, it's game plan when he has all the time in the world to do so.
not saying this is a win. just saying don't be shocked to see this one pretty tight in the 4th.
all i know is, i'm taking the over...wherever it's at. :thumbup:
reid is 11-0 coming off the bye. that streak will end for 2 main reasons.
1 - the eagles secondary. manning might throw for 900 yards
2 - the indy pass rush. the eagles offensive line sucks to begin with and they're dealing with injuries.
no doubt it will most likely end. i just don't think its going to the demolition most think it will be.
but the pass rush? colts have 11 team sacks going into tonight's game. that is horrendous. .....although freeney can still be a beast
reid is 11-0 coming off the bye. that streak will end for 2 main reasons.
1 - the eagles secondary. manning might throw for 900 yards
2 - the indy pass rush. the eagles offensive line sucks to begin with and they're dealing with injuries.
no doubt it will most likely end. i just don't think its going to the demolition most think it will be.
but the pass rush? colts have 11 team sacks going into tonight's game. that is horrendous. .....although freeney can still be a beast
I'm not saying the colts are unbeatable. Like the rest of the NFL teams this year, they are flawed. Herremans might have to start at LT. Their line was an issue to begin the year, and now it's in shambles.
My boy patterson starting at CB on sunday. I think he can play a little bit. Anything is better than hobbs
37-34 birds,or 38-24 colts it's gonna be one of the 2. I think if we hang with them we can win,but if we can't it's gonna be ugly. Reid teams being 11-0 after a bye gives me hope,but Manning is a stud and will pick us apart all game long.
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hockey started already?
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our playbooks are different because we're rebuilding. those teams are expected to go deep in the playoffs this year. nobody expects that out of this year's birds.
My only argument about this being a rebuilding year for you guys is: Why don't they just stick with Kolb and let him work out the kinks now? He has some good potential but he keeps having to look over his shoulder.
only the big fat man can answer that...
vick will be back against the colts.
I like the direction they are headed. Just a year or two away from being serious contenders. Now if we could just get vick to go away
Reid has done a great job with this team and the roster
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VIC 07
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Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
secondary has actually played well up until the 4th quarter on sunday. ellis hobbs is garbage. the other 3 are solid. (allen had his first bad game this week--overall solid so far)
the o line is just besieged with injuries. not much you can do about that....but it would have been nice if reid drafted at least one lineman for depth last april though. :roll:
with all that, and with the qb shuffle reid's got going on....8 or 9 wins will get you a wild card this year. they'll be in the mix for that.
their secondary has been pretty shitty. hanson and hobbs are both awful. and mikell only plays well every other game (usually against shitty teams). they need to start playing patterson over hanson or hobbs. that dude is a more athletic version of sheldon brown. allen was horrible on sunday, but he's gonna be fine.
what happened to that dude that came on here in the preseason and tried telling us that sheldon brown was a top 5 NFL CB? that guy was funny
my problem with the secondary is they are all small...and always have been under this regime since b taylor left. the only big-ish corner reid ever drafted was matt fucking ware. that did not turn out too well. with dez bryant looking like he's going to be solid, he's gotta buck up and take a bigger corner in the draft.
the defense really let us down in the 4th quarter against the titans. but you cant get too high or too low on a week to week basis. overall, they're the 9th ranked d in the league right now. gotta be better. but they're young and games like sunday will happen. mcdermott can do a much better job with his adjustments or lack there of though. i also don't like how they keep moving graham around and not letting the kid find himself out there on the field.
good point with the size issue. that probably has something to do with why they get shredded by TEs too.
I really think those offensive/defensive rankings are a waste of time. they're all based on yardage. points for and against are really all that matters. the eagles defense has let up wayyy too many points. and their schedule hasn't been tough at all (SF, Jax, Atlanta w/o Ryan, wash, detroit).
The defense just isn't good. At least we can take solace in the fact that they're young. The secondary needs upgrading
look at the teams in the top 10 and tell me that yardage is not a good indictor
birds were averaging about 19 ppg before the titans game which was top 10 also....then the 4th quarter from hell happened. young team. shit happens.
they're better than people think. there's talent on that side of the football.
I know SD was first in offense and defense going into week 7. good job there
okay. sd is always strong d and usually starts off slow. i don't know what else to tell you...GO BIRDS.
yardage totals don't tell you how good a unit is. buffalo probably has a high ranking pass offense. are they one of the best passing teams in the NFL? no way. it's a bad gauge is all I'm saying.
eagles have allowed 13 TD passes this year. they allowed 27 all of last year.
baldinger is on comcast burying the secondary. he sounds like me
yes it does. it doesnt give you a complete picture. but it certainly gives you an idea of how good a team is. sd is averaging 240 yds/game. that's pretty damn good. ppg, like every other stat, is misleading too because it doesn't account for turnovers and starting field position etc etc etc. the birds were at 19 ppg heading into last week which was, i think, 10th in the league. 15 bad minutes drops them all the way down to 22...which is 20th.
he should kill the secondary. i've done it this week. and most people did. it looked porous on sunday. but midway-ish through the season, 13 td's will put them right around where they ended up last year. not sure how that helps your point.
secondary was supposed to be improved this year (just by not having macho harris in a starting role). they're gonna give up more passing TDs this year than they did last year.
I ignore the yardage totals. They have no correlation to game situations.
This team is going 8-8, just like I predicted
i think about 90% of us predicted 8-8.
and most people thought the secondary was a work in progress going in with ellis hobbs replacing sheldon and a rookie at saftey. i've said all along that by the end of the year they should be playing much better and i think, with the exception of hobbs who i don't want to see back next year, they will. they need to time to grow together as a unit. if anything mcdermott should get a huge amount of the blame for not making any adjustments late in the titans game.
overall the d is a work in progress. lotta young bucks. it's about where one would expect it to be at this point in the season. can't get too high or too low on a week by week basis. but you really gotta love holding frank gore to 52 yards and then chris johnson to 66 yards in consecutive weeks. very encouraging.
go.
birds.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eag ... _Card.html
MID SEASON REPORT CARD
It's the Eagles' fall break so we offer our midterm grades for the team's Class of 2010-11:
OFFENSE (B)
Since the horrendous first half against Green Bay in the opener, the Eagles’ offense has found its groove, whether it has been Michael Vick or Kevin Kolb under center. That’s a notable achievement considering that the quarterbacks have dissimilar styles. Offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg deserves credit for formulating successful game plans that cater to each quarterback.
His spread-’em-out scheme against the Lions worked to perfection, as did his misdirection-filled play-calling against the Falcons. He could not find a way to penetrate the Redskins’ Cover-2 defense, however, and made some questionable late-game decisions (Chad Hall?) in the Titans loss.
Mornhinweg cannot be tagged for the offensive line’s woes. That blame rests solely on coach Andy Reid, who made the Stacy Andrews-Jason Peters mistakes and did nothing to upgrade the unit in the off-season.
Running backs (A-): LeSean McCoy has done it all: He has rushed for a healthy 4.5 yards per carry and five touchdowns and has led the team with 38 receptions. Even more impressive is how he has done it: with a broken rib and often making tacklers miss. Owen Schmitt has been a nice surprise, providing strong blocking and reliable hands when needed. The Mike Bell bust brings the grade down. The Eagles don’t have a reliable complement to McCoy — or a backup if Shady gets hurt.
Quarterbacks (A-): How did the Eagles get here? Oh, right, they traded Donovan McNabb and handed the job to Kolb. He got hurt, and Vick stepped in and played well. Kolb was demoted, and Vick was given the starting spot. Vick got hurt, and Kolb stepped in and played well. And now, Vick, supposedly close to recovery, will return and start against the Colts on Nov. 7.
Whew. For all the chaos, the quarterback position has been one of the brighter spots for the Eagles, especially when you compare the performance of Vick/Kolb to the way McNabb has played in Washington. Now there’s a quarterback dilemma.
Wide receivers/tight ends (B): The grade of the Eagles’ pass catchers is weighed down slightly by Brent Celek. A year after his breakout season, the tight end’s numbers are down across the board. Starting wideouts DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin have been dazzling for the most part. But Jackson had his concussion, and even before that he was having trouble getting the ball. Jason Avant’s production has slipped, but Riley Cooper appears to be a keeper and could see more time in the second half of the season.
Offensive line (C-): The Eagles have allowed 21 sacks, second worst in the league, and 41 quarterback hits, third worst. Those numbers would be worse if not for some Vick heroics. The line seemed to stabilize until the Tennessee game. The linemen have done well downfield to help pop some big screen plays, and the running game has been moving well. But the blocking crew has combined for 17 penalties, led by Peters’ five.
DEFENSE (C+)
The Eagles are giving up 22.4 points per game, 20th in the NFL, and every time they plug one leak, another seems to open. Most important, they have allowed three big fourth quarters. The D has created some big plays, though. The Eagles’ 16 takeaways are tied for fourth in the NFL, and their 21 sacks rank fifth.
Defensive line (B): Because of the pressure generated by the front four, the Eagles haven’t had to blitz as much as they did last season. Their defense, led by relentless end Trent Cole’s six quarterback sacks, is fifth in the league in sacks per pass attempt. End Juqua Parker got off to a fast start but has cooled despite more snaps. Top draft pick Brandon Graham is going through obvious growing pains. The middle of the line has been an improvement over last season because backups Trevor Laws and Antonio Dixon have progressed.
Linebackers (C): Stewart Bradley and Ernie Sims rank third and fifth on the team in tackles, but they often are making stops after allowing decent gains. We rarely see this group in the opposing backfield, and a few tight ends have gotten loose on them. The linebackers as a whole have combined for two sacks and no interceptions. Moise Fokou has helped since taking over for Akeem Jordan.
Defensive backs (C): If report cards were handed out before the Titans game, this group might have fared better. But cornerback Ellis Hobbs and free safety Nate Allen were so bad in that game that it’s hard to justify a higher mark. Hobbs was just OK before the Tennessee debacle, anyway. Allen was better, equaling cornerback Asante Samuel, with three interceptions. But he wasn’t tested very much considering that he is only a rookie. That should change. Samuel still has tackling issues, but he’s as good a cover man as there is. Strong safety Quintin Mikell looks more like his 2008 self.
SPECIAL TEAMS (C-)
The Eagles have been hurt by big returns that set up opposing scores. They are near the bottom of the league in both punt and kickoff coverage. The punt- and kick-return games have been average. Sav Rocca is in the top 10 in both punting average and net average. David Akers’ four misses tie him for third most in the NFL, although they all came in one bad week.
COACHING (B)
The impulse is to look at “The Tennessee Meltdown” and “The Washington Gut-Punch,” (Great rock band names, huh?) and conclude that Andy Reid and his assistants have done a subpar job through seven games. But factor in three road victories and an impressive stomping of Atlanta and what you have is pretty much what you would have expected in the bye week: a 4-3 record.
Expectations were tempered for a relatively young team before the season, with many forecasting a record between 8-8 and 10-6. But somewhere along the line (maybe it had something to do with the weak NFC), hopes were raised and then tempered in Tennessee.
Reid, too, got caught up in the fever and ditched his rebuilding, retooling, whatever-you-want-to-call-it plan
when he made the quarterback switch. It remains to be seen whether he made the right call. So far, with a patchwork offensive line and coordinator Sean McDermott’s Jekyll-and-Hyde defense, quarterback appears to be the least of his worries.
secondary - F
special teams - D minus
jeez. we'd be 0-7 if that was the case
go brids!
Shanahan is simply going by what he's seeing. I went back and looked at the first eight games of the Redskins' season. McNabb has had the ball four times inside the two-minute warning of the fourth quarter. Once, against Green Bay, he led Washington on a seven-play, 53-yard drive that ended in a game-tying field goal that forced overtime. On the other three drives, he threw one interception and couldn't get a first down on two others. Four two-minute drives at the end of games, three points. But that's not unlike McNabb's overall production. As of this morning, at the season's midpoint, he's the NFL's 25th-rated quarterback ... and he's also in the lower 20s in fourth-quarter passer rating. Don't show Washington owner Dan Snyder the quarterback rankings, by the way. McNabb's three spots behind Jason Campbell.
i see a shootout. indy's defense is not impressive. shady should have a good game. indy's 28th against the run. they are also beyond banged up right now...coming off a short week....with the meat of their schedule coming up in the weeks after our game. so the possibility for a let down is there. birds will have vick and desean back healthy. and it can only help matters that ellis hobbs will not be on the field
not saying this is a win. just saying don't be shocked to see this one pretty tight in the 4th.
all i know is, i'm taking the over...wherever it's at. :thumbup:
reid is 11-0 coming off the bye. that streak will end for 2 main reasons.
1 - the eagles secondary. manning might throw for 900 yards
2 - the indy pass rush. the eagles offensive line sucks to begin with and they're dealing with injuries.
no doubt it will most likely end. i just don't think its going to the demolition most think it will be.
but the pass rush? colts have 11 team sacks going into tonight's game. that is horrendous. .....although freeney can still be a beast
I'm not saying the colts are unbeatable. Like the rest of the NFL teams this year, they are flawed. Herremans might have to start at LT. Their line was an issue to begin the year, and now it's in shambles.
My boy patterson starting at CB on sunday. I think he can play a little bit. Anything is better than hobbs