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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Absolutely reverting back to his old ways. And this may sound crazy, but that Superman performance of his in the 4th quarter of that Giants game might have been worse thing than a good thing. Because that performance was based on Old Mike Vick - commit to run before the snap happens, can't find your one receiver then run, etc. etc. And that's good and all of taking over a game single-handedly for one quarter but not for an entire game. The reason Vick has really excelled this year is because he stayed in the pocket, evaluated the field(his options), and then made a decision. Now it's like '06 all over again - if you can't find your main target(first) receiver, then either make a dumb decision and force it(INT) or immediately run. And for most of the season he was keeping the discipline to keep the ball secured high with two hands high when standing in the pocket, and now he's back to keeping the ball out in the open down low(the fumble/sack). Like I said, if I'm going to have Old Mike Vick back then get rid of him.

    this is a good post.

    for the record, I said vick played like dog shit for 3 qtrs vs the gmen and I was shredded here
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    Phantom Pain wrote:

    We need the running game and some screens if teams are going to be blitz happy all game

    Vick wont make it through the 1st playoff game the way this O-Line blocks on passing plays

    I think Reid is having a bit of Buddy Ryan Syndrome and asking Vick to do too much like with Cunningham

    lesean mccoy is one of the best backs in the league and i think his talents are kind of being wasted. running the ball also lets your shaky offensive line get into a rhythm rather then always being on the defensive in the passing game.

    the thing with mccoy is that i don't think he's built to carry 20 times a week. now if you want to argue that harrison/mccoy needed to carry the ball more, I'd have to agree. especially with the way the QB was struggling.

    i dunno. he carried the ball--per game-- a lot more at pitt. i think he can handle it.

    but yeah--i would love to see shady get 15 or 16 carries and let harrison have about 5. harrison can be decent in that kind of role. i don't know why we keep him on the bench.
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  • Phantom Pain
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    Speaking of Harrison..did he even need a shower after the game ?

    Did he have any carries ??

    I like the way he runs
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  • The Juggler
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    The Fixer wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Absolutely reverting back to his old ways. And this may sound crazy, but that Superman performance of his in the 4th quarter of that Giants game might have been worse thing than a good thing. Because that performance was based on Old Mike Vick - commit to run before the snap happens, can't find your one receiver then run, etc. etc. And that's good and all of taking over a game single-handedly for one quarter but not for an entire game. The reason Vick has really excelled this year is because he stayed in the pocket, evaluated the field(his options), and then made a decision. Now it's like '06 all over again - if you can't find your main target(first) receiver, then either make a dumb decision and force it(INT) or immediately run. And for most of the season he was keeping the discipline to keep the ball secured high with two hands high when standing in the pocket, and now he's back to keeping the ball out in the open down low(the fumble/sack). Like I said, if I'm going to have Old Mike Vick back then get rid of him.

    this is a good post.

    for the record, I said vick played like dog shit for 3 qtrs vs the gmen and I was shredded here

    you were shredded by a steelers fan who lives in oregon :lol:
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    The Fixer wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Absolutely reverting back to his old ways. And this may sound crazy, but that Superman performance of his in the 4th quarter of that Giants game might have been worse thing than a good thing. Because that performance was based on Old Mike Vick - commit to run before the snap happens, can't find your one receiver then run, etc. etc. And that's good and all of taking over a game single-handedly for one quarter but not for an entire game. The reason Vick has really excelled this year is because he stayed in the pocket, evaluated the field(his options), and then made a decision. Now it's like '06 all over again - if you can't find your main target(first) receiver, then either make a dumb decision and force it(INT) or immediately run. And for most of the season he was keeping the discipline to keep the ball secured high with two hands high when standing in the pocket, and now he's back to keeping the ball out in the open down low(the fumble/sack). Like I said, if I'm going to have Old Mike Vick back then get rid of him.

    this is a good post.

    for the record, I said vick played like dog shit for 3 qtrs vs the gmen and I was shredded here

    Fixer, I just think it was that one douche Birds fan whom I've NEVER seen post here say something to you. And where's he at now? Exactly.

    In all reality they've played 1 good quarter in the last 8. No good. I wouldn't be as disappointed if Vick didn't show the potential to be a really solid QB. I had no problem watching this team fail and develop, but the former had to happen. And as usual.....JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I WAS OUT, THEY PULL ME BACK IN.
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    The Jeagler wrote:
    but yeah--i would love to see shady get 15 or 16 carries and let harrison have about 5. harrison can be decent in that kind of role. i don't know why we keep him on the bench.

    How long have we been saying this under the Reid era ?

    He would use Buckhalter twice in a game and then disappear for games

    Sadly it's not going to change
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Jeagler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    the thing with mccoy is that i don't think he's built to carry 20 times a week. now if you want to argue that harrison/mccoy needed to carry the ball more, I'd have to agree. especially with the way the QB was struggling.

    i dunno. he carried the ball--per game-- a lot more at pitt. i think he can handle it.

    but yeah--i would love to see shady get 15 or 16 carries and let harrison have about 5. harrison can be decent in that kind of role. i don't know why we keep him on the bench.

    getting hit by college kids is a little different than getting hit by nfl monsters. mccoy also has 80 catches this year, so can't forget he's getting hit on those touches too.

    your mccoy/harrison ratio would be perfect.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Jeagler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Absolutely reverting back to his old ways. And this may sound crazy, but that Superman performance of his in the 4th quarter of that Giants game might have been worse thing than a good thing. Because that performance was based on Old Mike Vick - commit to run before the snap happens, can't find your one receiver then run, etc. etc. And that's good and all of taking over a game single-handedly for one quarter but not for an entire game. The reason Vick has really excelled this year is because he stayed in the pocket, evaluated the field(his options), and then made a decision. Now it's like '06 all over again - if you can't find your main target(first) receiver, then either make a dumb decision and force it(INT) or immediately run. And for most of the season he was keeping the discipline to keep the ball secured high with two hands high when standing in the pocket, and now he's back to keeping the ball out in the open down low(the fumble/sack). Like I said, if I'm going to have Old Mike Vick back then get rid of him.

    this is a good post.

    for the record, I said vick played like dog shit for 3 qtrs vs the gmen and I was shredded here

    you were shredded by a steelers fan who lives in oregon :lol:

    yeah, you guys are right. my bad
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    The Jeagler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Absolutely reverting back to his old ways. And this may sound crazy, but that Superman performance of his in the 4th quarter of that Giants game might have been worse thing than a good thing. Because that performance was based on Old Mike Vick - commit to run before the snap happens, can't find your one receiver then run, etc. etc. And that's good and all of taking over a game single-handedly for one quarter but not for an entire game. The reason Vick has really excelled this year is because he stayed in the pocket, evaluated the field(his options), and then made a decision. Now it's like '06 all over again - if you can't find your main target(first) receiver, then either make a dumb decision and force it(INT) or immediately run. And for most of the season he was keeping the discipline to keep the ball secured high with two hands high when standing in the pocket, and now he's back to keeping the ball out in the open down low(the fumble/sack). Like I said, if I'm going to have Old Mike Vick back then get rid of him.

    this is a good post.

    for the record, I said vick played like dog shit for 3 qtrs vs the gmen and I was shredded here

    you were shredded by a steelers fan who lives in oregon :lol:

    Ya can't blame the guy...I wouldn't root for the Seahawks either

    :lol:
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    but yeah--i would love to see shady get 15 or 16 carries and let harrison have about 5. harrison can be decent in that kind of role. i don't know why we keep him on the bench.

    How long have we been saying this under the Reid era ?

    He would use Buckhalter twice in a game and then disappear for games

    Sadly it's not going to change

    hey we had that 3 headed monster that worked to perfection in '03. we ran the ball quite a bit before 04 actually. i think brad childress had a lot to do with that back then. awful head coach-good coordinator. wouldn't mind seeing him come back in that role if marty leaves...
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    And I really didn't think of this - maybe as the season progresses, Vick is starting to despise his offensive linemen. HOW THE HELL DOES JASON PETERS AND TODD HERREMANS GET NAMED?(even if herremans is an alternate)
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    And I really didn't think of this - maybe as the season progresses, Vick is starting to despise his offensive linemen. HOW THE HELL DOES JASON PETERS AND TODD HERREMANS GET NAMED?(even if herremans is an alternate)

    it's the other side of the line that's the problem imo....
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    And I really didn't think of this - maybe as the season progresses, Vick is starting to despise his offensive linemen. HOW THE HELL DOES JASON PETERS AND TODD HERREMANS GET NAMED?(even if herremans is an alternate)

    1 - the pro bowl is a waste of time
    2 - herremans is the only guy on the line who has been decent this year
    3 - peters stinks. he and mikell are the two guys on this team that I can't stand
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Jeagler wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    And I really didn't think of this - maybe as the season progresses, Vick is starting to despise his offensive linemen. HOW THE HELL DOES JASON PETERS AND TODD HERREMANS GET NAMED?(even if herremans is an alternate)

    it's the other side of the line that's the problem imo....

    you know what else I noticed last night too? watch mcglynn's shotgun snaps. they take forever to get to vick. he lobs those things back there and sometimes vick even has to hop a bit to get the ball. totally fucks up the timing on plays.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    The Fixer wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    And I really didn't think of this - maybe as the season progresses, Vick is starting to despise his offensive linemen. HOW THE HELL DOES JASON PETERS AND TODD HERREMANS GET NAMED?(even if herremans is an alternate)

    1 - the pro bowl is a waste of time
    2 - herremans is the only guy on the line who has been decent this year
    3 - peters stinks. he and mikell are the two guys on this team that I can't stand


    peters isn't nearly as good as his reputation or as reid says he is...but he doesn't stink. he's an above average tackle. herremans is decent. my issue with peters is the dumb penalties he takes. and i still say he is offsides about 80% of the time :lol:
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    And I really didn't think of this - maybe as the season progresses, Vick is starting to despise his offensive linemen. HOW THE HELL DOES JASON PETERS AND TODD HERREMANS GET NAMED?(even if herremans is an alternate)

    it's the other side of the line that's the problem imo....

    you know what else I noticed last night too? watch mcglynn's shotgun snaps. they take forever to get to vick. he lobs those things back there and sometimes vick even has to hop a bit to get the ball. totally fucks up the timing on plays.

    we need david alexander to come out of retirement. ron heller too.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    The Jeagler wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    And I really didn't think of this - maybe as the season progresses, Vick is starting to despise his offensive linemen. HOW THE HELL DOES JASON PETERS AND TODD HERREMANS GET NAMED?(even if herremans is an alternate)

    it's the other side of the line that's the problem imo....

    For the most part it is, but still, I know Peters is mostly a popularity vote, but how the hell does Herremans break that barrier? Who's he blowin'?

    Justice has been average at best, Gilles has been dreadful, McGlynn has been below average with glimpses of being good. But between the stupid penalties and overall porous blocking on the pass, just by principle no one should be getting named to the Pro Bowl.

    Shotgun, max protect, for the rest of the season.

    There's some crazy stat about how badly Vick has down under center compared to in the shotgun.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:

    Shotgun, max protect, for the rest of the season.

    There's some crazy stat about how badly Vick has down under center compared to in the shotgun.

    I'd like to see them roll the pocket more too, but I guess that does cut down on vick's running lanes.

    You must have read the same article that I did. I mentioned the disparity in vick's snaps under center/in the gun a few weeks ago. It's like night and day. I can't remember where I read the article.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    Hand to Gawd I had no idea of this article. Personally, I just think we're geniuses around here and they're just taking our ideas. But, hey, that's just me...... http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eag ... alcon.html
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    Over ONE THOUSAND penalty yards? Jesus Christ. It's a miracle that their record is as good as it is.
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