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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    You folks are pressing to get Fielder. What you think? Any chance it happens?
  • AtlantaJammer
    AtlantaJammer Posts: 2,611
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    You folks are pressing to get Fielder. What you think? Any chance it happens?

    I dont think we NEED anyone. But Id take Prince... Just for half season? Why not.
  • AtlantaJammer
    AtlantaJammer Posts: 2,611
    LoveOnTwoLegs wrote:
    AtlantaJammer wrote:
    Am I the only one whos stomach turns upside down when Jenks comes in? Even with a 3 run lead?

    My stomach does flip flops too when he comes it... But that is only because I luuuuuurve Bobby! :lol:


    :lol: Hes a pig. Literally...
  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,910
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    You folks are pressing to get Fielder. What you think? Any chance it happens?

    I dunno. I would love it, obviously. But the Sox would have to give up a shitload to get them and I dont think they want to drain their minor league talent right now....
  • davidtrios
    davidtrios Posts: 9,732
    They want Viciedo and Hudson and the Sox can't afford to trade Hudson away bc he is filling in for Peavy for the rest of the year.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Indifference71 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    You folks are pressing to get Fielder. What you think? Any chance it happens?

    I dunno. I would love it, obviously. But the Sox would have to give up a shitload to get them and I dont think they want to drain their minor league talent right now....

    Yeah, its going to take a lot and from what I read on MLBTR the Brewers dont really like Hudson and are askign for Beckham. Highly doubt that would happen, even with his regression.
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    AtlantaJammer wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    You folks are pressing to get Fielder. What you think? Any chance it happens?

    I dont think we NEED anyone. But Id take Prince... Just for half season? Why not.


    is this a new rumor? i'd been hearing Dunn Dunn Dunn.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    81 wrote:
    AtlantaJammer wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    You folks are pressing to get Fielder. What you think? Any chance it happens?

    I dont think we NEED anyone. But Id take Prince... Just for half season? Why not.


    is this a new rumor? i'd been hearing Dunn Dunn Dunn.

    isn't fielder signed thru the end of next season?

    must do some digging

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/w ... elder.html
  • IwasBit10
    IwasBit10 Posts: 646
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    You folks are pressing to get Fielder. What you think? Any chance it happens?

    I saw that too. Kinda surprised since I just read a day ago that they had no interest in him and were pressing for Dunn.

    Kenny Williams is never shy on pulling the trigger on a big move. I see the good and bad in this one. I don't see Kenny wanting to work with a big-name Boras client again, especially if he's gonna try and get a Ryan Howard type deal in 2012. But if they can get away with just giving up Hudson and some prospects, then I'm ok with it. If anyone else on the major league roster is included (think: Gordon Beckham) then I don't think it's worth it, especially if Prince bolts for big $$$ after just a season and a half. Then again, Paulie is a FA at the end of this year, so who knows, maybe they'll lock him up.
    He floated back down 'cause he wanted to share, his key to the locks on the chains he saw everywhere.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    IwasBit10 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    You folks are pressing to get Fielder. What you think? Any chance it happens?

    I saw that too. Kinda surprised since I just read a day ago that they had no interest in him and were pressing for Dunn.

    Kenny Williams is never shy on pulling the trigger on a big move. I see the good and bad in this one. I don't see Kenny wanting to work with a big-name Boras client again, especially if he's gonna try and get a Ryan Howard type deal in 2012. But if they can get away with just giving up Hudson and some prospects, then I'm ok with it. If anyone else on the major league roster is included (think: Gordon Beckham) then I don't think it's worth it, especially if Prince bolts for big $$$ after just a season and a half. Then again, Paulie is a FA at the end of this year, so who knows, maybe they'll lock him up.

    Again? What happened with Kenny and Boras? I don't recall. Yeah, I mean it could be great but I wouldn't give up too much, like you said, basically Beckham.

    Things have probably changed because Rizzo is being stupid about Dunn and askign for a crazy package.
  • IwasBit10
    IwasBit10 Posts: 646
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    IwasBit10 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    You folks are pressing to get Fielder. What you think? Any chance it happens?

    I saw that too. Kinda surprised since I just read a day ago that they had no interest in him and were pressing for Dunn.

    Kenny Williams is never shy on pulling the trigger on a big move. I see the good and bad in this one. I don't see Kenny wanting to work with a big-name Boras client again, especially if he's gonna try and get a Ryan Howard type deal in 2012. But if they can get away with just giving up Hudson and some prospects, then I'm ok with it. If anyone else on the major league roster is included (think: Gordon Beckham) then I don't think it's worth it, especially if Prince bolts for big $$$ after just a season and a half. Then again, Paulie is a FA at the end of this year, so who knows, maybe they'll lock him up.

    Again? What happened with Kenny and Boras? I don't recall. Yeah, I mean it could be great but I wouldn't give up too much, like you said, basically Beckham.

    Things have probably changed because Rizzo is being stupid about Dunn and askign for a crazy package.

    They've just never gotten along. I think there was a big dispute over Crede, and Kenny basically said he will refuse to negotiate with him.

    Yeah, Rizzo is asking for an absurd amount for Dunn. But I don't want to see Beckham leave. Period. He's coming around, and he's gonna be a stud.
    He floated back down 'cause he wanted to share, his key to the locks on the chains he saw everywhere.
  • AtlantaJammer
    AtlantaJammer Posts: 2,611
    They've just never gotten along. I think there was a big dispute over Crede, and Kenny basically said he will refuse to negotiate with him.

    Yeah, Rizzo is asking for an absurd amount for Dunn. But I don't want to see Beckham leave. Period. He's coming around, and he's gonna be a stud.

    Beckham wont be dealt. KW made that apparent.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    IwasBit10 wrote:

    They've just never gotten along. I think there was a big dispute over Crede, and Kenny basically said he will refuse to negotiate with him.

    Yeah, Rizzo is asking for an absurd amount for Dunn. But I don't want to see Beckham leave. Period. He's coming around, and he's gonna be a stud.

    haha, go figure, Kenny Williams does not get along with someone. Kidding...

    I hear you on Beckham, can't give up on a kid that young after a bad half.
  • IwasBit10
    IwasBit10 Posts: 646
    I see Kenny going after another waiver pick-up, a la Rios of last year.
    He floated back down 'cause he wanted to share, his key to the locks on the chains he saw everywhere.
  • AtlantaJammer
    AtlantaJammer Posts: 2,611
    I just dont think we need another bat. Runs have been scarce the past couple of seasons but we are CAPABLE for sure. Pitching? Even with Peavy gone we are pretty stout. Bullpen is pretty. Cant expect Freddy to keep up but Hudson can get better... We dont need SHIT!!!! Im lovin' this team! :mrgreen:
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Thanks again, Jenks. :?
  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,910
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    IwasBit10 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    You folks are pressing to get Fielder. What you think? Any chance it happens?

    I saw that too. Kinda surprised since I just read a day ago that they had no interest in him and were pressing for Dunn.

    Kenny Williams is never shy on pulling the trigger on a big move. I see the good and bad in this one. I don't see Kenny wanting to work with a big-name Boras client again, especially if he's gonna try and get a Ryan Howard type deal in 2012. But if they can get away with just giving up Hudson and some prospects, then I'm ok with it. If anyone else on the major league roster is included (think: Gordon Beckham) then I don't think it's worth it, especially if Prince bolts for big $$$ after just a season and a half. Then again, Paulie is a FA at the end of this year, so who knows, maybe they'll lock him up.

    Again? What happened with Kenny and Boras? I don't recall. Yeah, I mean it could be great but I wouldn't give up too much, like you said, basically Beckham.

    Things have probably changed because Rizzo is being stupid about Dunn and askign for a crazy package.


    Hey, don't be talking shit about Rizzo! He's a Chicago guy and he's a family friend...really great guy. But yeah, he is asking for a shitload for Dunn.
  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,910
    Fuck you Bobby Jenks. I really hope they're trying to trade this guy right now....although the past few days prob hasn't helped his trade value much.
  • IwasBit10
    IwasBit10 Posts: 646
    IwasBit10 wrote:
    Davidtrios wrote:
    who is capable of an 88% career save percentage? Plus, the guy is still in his prime.

    He's no where near the level he was at in 2006 or 2007. His ERA and WHIP are horrible for a closer on a 1st place team. He's lost his gas, and I'm pretty sure we could all hit his change-up right now. Closers, and bullpen pitchers overall, come and go. Dustin Hermanson had 34 saves in 2005 before Bobby took over in the playoffs. Neal Cotts and Cliff Politte aren't even in the league anymore. Remember Shingo? Or Billy Koch? This shit happens, and the Sox need to stay proactive if they want to keep this division lead. Jenks will always be special for being on the mound for the final out in 05, but I'm just being realistic. 1 and 1/2 game lead and we still have to play the Tigers 14 more times and the Twins 9.

    The reason Rivera is the best of all time is b/c he did that over 15 years, not 3. And what about Putz? He had like 75 saves in 2 years with Seattle not too long ago.

    Hate to say I told you so...

    Whether it's his mechanics or his confidence, he's clearly rattled and cannot be trusted at the moment. He alone gave up a game in the division race last night. That cannot happen. I dunno what you do with him besides try for a trade, but yeah, not sure of his trade value at the moment.

    I say give Putz a shot at the next save opp. He's been solid all year and has closer experience.
    He floated back down 'cause he wanted to share, his key to the locks on the chains he saw everywhere.
  • davidtrios
    davidtrios Posts: 9,732
    In Bobby's sequence to the last better he only threw fastballs and sliders- no curveballs. I think he may be concealing an elbow injury but who knows what his deal is. Ozzie annouced closer by comittee so it should be Putz when righties are up and Thornton went the lefties are coming. Personally, I trust J.J more bc of his prior experience as a closer. Matt was selected as an All-Star but has been a little shaky. So far, the Sox are 3-4 on this road trip when they should be 5-2 but we're still 2.5 games up.

    I think Oakland has been playing well lately so it might be a challenge for the good guys this weekend

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