how dumb are most of you people... if you thought as much as 5 seconds about it, you could have figured out that I was at least giving Godfather credit for throwing something in that at least was more on track with my original question, instead of WHINING that my question was unfairly worded, poorly written, too many rules... it was obviously too much to ask of people to comment to my original post, so hell, I'm willing to take anything now. actually, nevermind. I've got things to do in the real world instead of stay around here with you people who do nothing but sit on this forum all day. get lives.
how dumb are most of you people... if you thought as much as 5 seconds about it, you could have figured out that I was at least giving Godfather credit for throwing something in that at least was more on track with my original question, instead of WHINING that my question was unfairly worded, poorly written, too many rules... it was obviously too much to ask of people to comment to my original post, so hell, I'm willing to take anything now. actually, nevermind. I've got things to do in the real world instead of stay around here with you people who do nothing but sit on this forum all day. get lives.
ill take the bait. what godfather posted was NOT in line with your original question. i was going to sincerely reply to your original post but once i saw you give godfather props for posting an article bashing obama i decided this thread was not worthy of my time because you were clearly not interested in honest discussion.
you complain that nobody is replying to your thread, then you insult the ones that do, then you complain that people begin to mock your thread, then you tell US to get lives. sounds like someone is a little too sensitive today...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
hay Goo sorry if I started up a bunch bashing on you.
this typical of most forums, once there are several different ideas and personality's poured into
a thread... BOOM !!! it's like a car bomb.
hay Goo sorry if I started up a bunch bashing on you.
this typical of most forums, once there are several different ideas and personality's poured into
a thread... BOOM !!! it's like a car bomb.
Godfather.
Wrong...Goo is an assclown who started a shitty thread. That's all there is to it.
how dumb are most of you people... if you thought as much as 5 seconds about it, you could have figured out that I was at least giving Godfather credit for throwing something in that at least was more on track with my original question, instead of WHINING that my question was unfairly worded, poorly written, too many rules... it was obviously too much to ask of people to comment to my original post, so hell, I'm willing to take anything now. actually, nevermind. I've got things to do in the real world instead of stay around here with you people who do nothing but sit on this forum all day. get lives.
Look in the mirror and get that Goo off your face.
how dumb are most of you people... if you thought as much as 5 seconds about it, you could have figured out that I was at least giving Godfather credit for throwing something in that at least was more on track with my original question, instead of WHINING that my question was unfairly worded, poorly written, too many rules... it was obviously too much to ask of people to comment to my original post, so hell, I'm willing to take anything now. actually, nevermind. I've got things to do in the real world instead of stay around here with you people who do nothing but sit on this forum all day. get lives.
Wow dude, sounds like you need to get laid. You start off by calling people whiners, then call people dumb, then say people here have no lives.
I started off by trying to offer some positivity in this thread, but your attitude is just pathetic. you really come off like you're 12 years old.
these are great topics but you put a few conditions on your original post, so you didnt get the answers you expected, oh well... instead of bashing, why not pose your question it in a little more general approach and enguage people in a conversation where you're not up on a damn pedestal?
oh btw, there are anger management links all over google bro.
spending money to help banks and other real rich people, unfortunately the money is yours and mine in the USA
creating jobs, although they seem to be overseas (see cash for clunkers) and not in the USA
promoting peace and harmony, while fighting two wars
allowing psychos like Barney Frank to write policies that take more of our private rights away and give the government more control over us in the USA
HE IS AWESOME at showing how pathetic the Republican Party is since they do shit to get the word out in a timely fashion about his ridiculous policy
He is really fair to terrorists making them have a criminal trials in NYC, with the right to totally expose our CIA and counter terrorist techniques in a trial
He is good at taking hundreds of terrorists in detention in Cuba, away from our citizens, and putting them in a new prison in his home state
he is really respectful to other leaders and always makes sure he bows and bends over for them in submission
oh yeah he has been great at eliminating hidden pork in bills, now it is just blatantly added
I can keep going but I think my head will explode
still waiting on that change Barry
I will say his tax credits for new home buyers is great! Did he even think of it?
I used the extra money back on my paycheck (like $35 a month) to upgrade my phone! So Obama has been good to me..
My buddy also took advantage on the tax money back home thing to purchase a new home..
No complaints here.
People seem to forget, Obama is not a dictator. Changing things is not that easy. He has to compromise with every side. He can't just cator to one side, and even if he does, he does not have all power to enforce it.
thanks Godfather for simply contributing and not whining like everyone else.
spoken like someone that clearly has no response. i also recall you asking for our thoughts, not news links bashing obama that you like. so we dont give you what you want and we're whining, but when someone you agree with doesn't give you what you want, you appreciate their contributions. no, you weren't baiting at ALL.
I don't know soulsingsing, it almost seems like you are the one looking for the arguement here. Maybe he was just curious and wanted to hear what people had to say.
I used the extra money back on my paycheck (like $35 a month) to upgrade my phone! So Obama has been good to me..
My buddy also took advantage on the tax money back home thing to purchase a new home..
No complaints here.
People seem to forget, Obama is not a dictator. Changing things is not that easy. He has to compromise with every side. He can't just cator to one side, and even if he does, he does not have all power to enforce it.
Really biting my lip here on this one but I will respect the PO's request.
spending money to help banks and other real rich people, unfortunately the money is yours and mine in the USA
creating jobs, although they seem to be overseas (see cash for clunkers) and not in the USA
promoting peace and harmony, while fighting two wars
allowing psychos like Barney Frank to write policies that take more of our private rights away and give the government more control over us in the USA
HE IS AWESOME at showing how pathetic the Republican Party is since they do shit to get the word out in a timely fashion about his ridiculous policy
He is really fair to terrorists making them have a criminal trials in NYC, with the right to totally expose our CIA and counter terrorist techniques in a trial
He is good at taking hundreds of terrorists in detention in Cuba, away from our citizens, and putting them in a new prison in his home state
he is really respectful to other leaders and always makes sure he bows and bends over for them in submission
oh yeah he has been great at eliminating hidden pork in bills, now it is just blatantly added
I can keep going but I think my head will explode
still waiting on that change Barry
I will say his tax credits for new home buyers is great! Did he even think of it?
It's amazing how easily a couple valid points get lost when you add a bunch of other senseless crap.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
thanks Godfather for simply contributing and not whining like everyone else.
ummm....actually, technically he IS whining. you said you wanted to hear from people who only had good things to say about Obama and what they feel he is doing for them, so to post a negative article is somewhat contradictory to that aim, no?
negative to who ?......if stating a opinion or posting a article is whining then my friend's we are all guilty
of whinning..........shhhhhhh can you hear the whaaambulance
I was just thinking, is this the same kind of thing that starts war's between country's..a simple difference
of opinion ? there is a lot to be said for human aggression and self rightusness (I hope spell check fixes that)
you see my friend's we have all (on this thread) proved that beyond reasonable doubt.
Godfather.
what are you talking about???
from the original post:
this thread is for those who have nothing but great things to say about Obama's performance so far.....there are, of course, those who think all those people must be crazy and that Obama really is delivering on the things he promised. if this is you, please tell us why.
now, did your article about what Cheney thinks of Obama fit into this criteria?? no, it was critical of him, so technically you WERE whining, which he complained of others doing and then thanked you for your article which was in contradiction to what he originally asked for. i would have said you were complaining but he accused others of whining so i used that word
don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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thanks Godfather for simply contributing and not whining like everyone else.
Unfortunately guess who started ALL the whining in this thread?
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
how dumb are most of you people... if you thought as much as 5 seconds about it, you could have figured out that I was at least giving Godfather credit for throwing something in that at least was more on track with my original question, instead of WHINING that my question was unfairly worded, poorly written, too many rules... it was obviously too much to ask of people to comment to my original post, so hell, I'm willing to take anything now. actually, nevermind. I've got things to do in the real world instead of stay around here with you people who do nothing but sit on this forum all day. get lives.
aren't YOU the one who started this topic?
aren't YOU the one that was sitting around monitoring how many times this thread was looked at?
you clearly were baiting people. there's no question about that.
calling people on a forum you belong to and post on to "get lives" and that you have "things to do in the real world" is hypocritical, immature, and borderline pathetic.
stop whining. your thread sucks. you pathetically underestimated the average intelligence of the general board member here, you were outed, it angered you, and you responded like a grade-schooler.
and that's the bottom line.
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Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
My own view is that 2009 has been an extraordinarily successful year for Obama. Since this is currently a minority view and will prompt a chorus of "In The Tank!", allow me to explain.
The substantive record is clear enough. Torture is ended, if Gitmo remains enormously difficult to close and rendition extremely hard to police. The unitary executive, claiming vast, dictatorial powers over American citizens, has been unwound. The legal inquiries that may well convict former Bush officials for war crimes are underway, and the trial of KSM will reveal the lawless sadism of the Cheney regime that did so much to sabotage our war on Jihadism. Military force against al Qaeda in Pakistan has been ratcheted up considerably, even at a civilian cost that remains morally troubling. The US has given notice that it intends to leave Afghanistan with a bang - a big surge, a shift in tactics, and a heavy batch of new troops. Iraq remains dodgy in the extreme, but at least March elections have been finally nailed down.
Domestically, the new president has rescued the banks in a bail-out that has come in at $200 billion under budget; the economy has shifted from a tailspin to stablilization and some prospect of job growth next year; the Dow is at 10,500 a level no one would have predicted this time last year. A stimulus package has helped undergird infrastructure and probably did more to advance non-carbon energy than anything that might have emerged from Copenhagen. Universal health insurance (with promised deficit reduction!) is imminent - a goal sought by Democrats (and Nixon) for decades, impossible under the centrist Clinton, but won finally by a black liberal president. More progress has been made in unraveling the war on drugs this past year than in living memory. The transformation of California into a state where pot is now more available than in Amsterdam is as remarkable as the fact that such new sanity has spread across the country and is at historic highs, so to speak, in the opinion polls. On civil rights, civil marriage came to the nation's capital city, which has a 60 percent black population. If that doesn't help reverse some of the gloom from Prop 8 and Maine, what would? And, yes, the unspeakable ban on HIV-positive foreigners was finally lifted, bringing the US back to the center of the global effort to fight AIDS as it should be.
Relations with Russia have improved immensely and may yield real gains in non-proliferation; Netanyahu has moved, however insincerely, toward a two-state solution; Iran's coup regime remains far more vulnerable than a year ago, paralyzed in its diplomacy, terrified of its own people and constantly shaken by the ongoing revolution; Pakistan launched a major offensive against al Qaeda and the Taliban in its border area; global opinion of the US has been transformed; the Cairo speech and the Nobel acceptance speech helped explain exactly what Obama's blend of ruthless realism for conflict-management truly means.
The Beltway cannot handle all this. And that's why they continue to jump on every micro-talking-point and forget vast forests for a few failing saplings.
But when you consider the magnitude of shifting from one conservative era to one in which government simply has to be deployed to tackle deep structural problems, the achievement is as significant as his election year.
I remain, in other words, extremely bullish on the guy. There is a huge amount to come - finding a way to bring down long-term debt, ensuring health insurance reform stays on track and reformed constantly to control costs, turning the corner on non-carbon energy, reforming entitlements, finding a new revenue stream like a VAT, preventing Israel from attacking Iran, preventing Iran's coup regime from going even roguer, withdrawing from an Iraq still teetering on new sectarian conflict, avoiding a second downturn, closing Gitmo for good, ending the gay ban in the military ... well, you get the picture.
Change of this magnitude is extremely hard. That it is also frustrating, inadequate, compromised, flawed, and beset with bribes and trade-offs does not, in my mind, undermine it. Obama told us it would be like this - and it is. And those who backed him last year would do better, to my mind, if they appreciated the difficulty of this task and the diligence and civility that Obama has displayed in executing it.
Yes, we have. And yes, we still are the ones we've been waiting for - if we still care enough to swallow purism and pride and show up for the less emotionally satisfying grind of real, practical, incremental reform.
Your blind. Washington is operating the same as it always has if not worse. Seems like you want it to be better for no other reason than he is a black president or why else would you even mention his race?
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
Your blind. Washington is operating the same as it always has if not worse. Seems like you want it to be better for no other reason than he is a black president or why else would you even mention his race?
Your blind. Washington is operating the same as it always has if not worse. Seems like you want it to be better for no other reason than he is a black president or why else would you even mention his race?
LOL!!!
did you read the link? probably not because you did not read the link in the other thread earlier today....i actually agree with him on some of these points...andrew sullivan is a conservative writer and has his own blog and writes for time magazine. surprised you have never heard of him....and even more surprised that you can't agree with him...is it because he is homosexual??? :?
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
No.
He won't be re-elected.
The President we get next will be worse.
I agree with the first two but the next President can be much better if we get Pelosi and Reid and those goons out of Congress control.
There are some rising stars in the GOP (not Palin), and I find it funny it only takes one year of Democratic control to make America wake up and bring life back to the GOP. I think 2010 and 2012 are going to be great years.
There are some rising stars in the GOP (not Palin), and I find it funny it only takes one year of Democratic control to make America wake up and bring life back to the GOP. I think 2010 and 2012 are going to be great years.
rising stars? try to give me 3 names that have a chance of winning in '12. palin is going to be your nominee and she will get crushed in a landslide. many polls say she hurt mccain and cost him a significant amount of votes, so how can she win when mccain was the most palatable option in 2008?. if the teabaggers get on state ballots they will siphon votes from the gop so i think the gop is in some serious trouble because the dem base will not abondon obama in the next election, no matter how angry they might be at him. i doubt very seriously that the gop will take the house or senate in '10 and '12 and will almost guarantee they will not win the white house in '12. the gop lost the 23rd NY seat that it has held since the civil war. we shall see what happens.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
I find it funny it only takes one year of Democratic control to make America wake up and bring life back to the GOP. I think 2010 and 2012 are going to be great years.
i'm pretty sure it didn't take long for conservatives to get worked up into a frenzy and foaming at the mouth when Clinton was elected. ah, such family values to compare the president's daughter to a dog and call the first lady a bitch. hacks like Limbaugh, Liddy, Hannity....have 2 modes:
-their guy is in office and they gloat and look down on the other side and are hateful while shouting down and criticizing people asking questions
-the other guy is in office and they overreact to everything and are hateful while saying 'i'm just asking questions!'
don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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ill take the bait. what godfather posted was NOT in line with your original question. i was going to sincerely reply to your original post but once i saw you give godfather props for posting an article bashing obama i decided this thread was not worthy of my time because you were clearly not interested in honest discussion.
you complain that nobody is replying to your thread, then you insult the ones that do, then you complain that people begin to mock your thread, then you tell US to get lives. sounds like someone is a little too sensitive today...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
this typical of most forums, once there are several different ideas and personality's poured into
a thread... BOOM !!! it's like a car bomb.
Godfather.
Wrong...Goo is an assclown who started a shitty thread. That's all there is to it.
Look in the mirror and get that Goo off your face.
Wow dude, sounds like you need to get laid. You start off by calling people whiners, then call people dumb, then say people here have no lives.
I started off by trying to offer some positivity in this thread, but your attitude is just pathetic. you really come off like you're 12 years old.
these are great topics but you put a few conditions on your original post, so you didnt get the answers you expected, oh well... instead of bashing, why not pose your question it in a little more general approach and enguage people in a conversation where you're not up on a damn pedestal?
oh btw, there are anger management links all over google bro.
talking a good game, but doing nothing he says
spending money to help banks and other real rich people, unfortunately the money is yours and mine in the USA
creating jobs, although they seem to be overseas (see cash for clunkers) and not in the USA
promoting peace and harmony, while fighting two wars
allowing psychos like Barney Frank to write policies that take more of our private rights away and give the government more control over us in the USA
HE IS AWESOME at showing how pathetic the Republican Party is since they do shit to get the word out in a timely fashion about his ridiculous policy
He is really fair to terrorists making them have a criminal trials in NYC, with the right to totally expose our CIA and counter terrorist techniques in a trial
He is good at taking hundreds of terrorists in detention in Cuba, away from our citizens, and putting them in a new prison in his home state
he is really respectful to other leaders and always makes sure he bows and bends over for them in submission
oh yeah he has been great at eliminating hidden pork in bills, now it is just blatantly added
I can keep going but I think my head will explode
still waiting on that change Barry
I will say his tax credits for new home buyers is great! Did he even think of it?
My buddy also took advantage on the tax money back home thing to purchase a new home..
No complaints here.
People seem to forget, Obama is not a dictator. Changing things is not that easy. He has to compromise with every side. He can't just cator to one side, and even if he does, he does not have all power to enforce it.
I don't know soulsingsing, it almost seems like you are the one looking for the arguement here. Maybe he was just curious and wanted to hear what people had to say.
Really biting my lip here on this one but I will respect the PO's request.
It's amazing how easily a couple valid points get lost when you add a bunch of other senseless crap.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
what are you talking about???
from the original post:
now, did your article about what Cheney thinks of Obama fit into this criteria?? no, it was critical of him, so technically you WERE whining, which he complained of others doing and then thanked you for your article which was in contradiction to what he originally asked for. i would have said you were complaining but he accused others of whining so i used that word
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
Unfortunately guess who started ALL the whining in this thread?
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
aren't YOU the one who started this topic?
aren't YOU the one that was sitting around monitoring how many times this thread was looked at?
you clearly were baiting people. there's no question about that.
calling people on a forum you belong to and post on to "get lives" and that you have "things to do in the real world" is hypocritical, immature, and borderline pathetic.
stop whining. your thread sucks. you pathetically underestimated the average intelligence of the general board member here, you were outed, it angered you, and you responded like a grade-schooler.
and that's the bottom line.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Cheers
Shelley
He won't be re-elected.
The President we get next will be worse.
want to be enlightened"
A good read...
My own view is that 2009 has been an extraordinarily successful year for Obama. Since this is currently a minority view and will prompt a chorus of "In The Tank!", allow me to explain.
The substantive record is clear enough. Torture is ended, if Gitmo remains enormously difficult to close and rendition extremely hard to police. The unitary executive, claiming vast, dictatorial powers over American citizens, has been unwound. The legal inquiries that may well convict former Bush officials for war crimes are underway, and the trial of KSM will reveal the lawless sadism of the Cheney regime that did so much to sabotage our war on Jihadism. Military force against al Qaeda in Pakistan has been ratcheted up considerably, even at a civilian cost that remains morally troubling. The US has given notice that it intends to leave Afghanistan with a bang - a big surge, a shift in tactics, and a heavy batch of new troops. Iraq remains dodgy in the extreme, but at least March elections have been finally nailed down.
Domestically, the new president has rescued the banks in a bail-out that has come in at $200 billion under budget; the economy has shifted from a tailspin to stablilization and some prospect of job growth next year; the Dow is at 10,500 a level no one would have predicted this time last year. A stimulus package has helped undergird infrastructure and probably did more to advance non-carbon energy than anything that might have emerged from Copenhagen. Universal health insurance (with promised deficit reduction!) is imminent - a goal sought by Democrats (and Nixon) for decades, impossible under the centrist Clinton, but won finally by a black liberal president. More progress has been made in unraveling the war on drugs this past year than in living memory. The transformation of California into a state where pot is now more available than in Amsterdam is as remarkable as the fact that such new sanity has spread across the country and is at historic highs, so to speak, in the opinion polls. On civil rights, civil marriage came to the nation's capital city, which has a 60 percent black population. If that doesn't help reverse some of the gloom from Prop 8 and Maine, what would? And, yes, the unspeakable ban on HIV-positive foreigners was finally lifted, bringing the US back to the center of the global effort to fight AIDS as it should be.
Relations with Russia have improved immensely and may yield real gains in non-proliferation; Netanyahu has moved, however insincerely, toward a two-state solution; Iran's coup regime remains far more vulnerable than a year ago, paralyzed in its diplomacy, terrified of its own people and constantly shaken by the ongoing revolution; Pakistan launched a major offensive against al Qaeda and the Taliban in its border area; global opinion of the US has been transformed; the Cairo speech and the Nobel acceptance speech helped explain exactly what Obama's blend of ruthless realism for conflict-management truly means.
The Beltway cannot handle all this. And that's why they continue to jump on every micro-talking-point and forget vast forests for a few failing saplings.
But when you consider the magnitude of shifting from one conservative era to one in which government simply has to be deployed to tackle deep structural problems, the achievement is as significant as his election year.
I remain, in other words, extremely bullish on the guy. There is a huge amount to come - finding a way to bring down long-term debt, ensuring health insurance reform stays on track and reformed constantly to control costs, turning the corner on non-carbon energy, reforming entitlements, finding a new revenue stream like a VAT, preventing Israel from attacking Iran, preventing Iran's coup regime from going even roguer, withdrawing from an Iraq still teetering on new sectarian conflict, avoiding a second downturn, closing Gitmo for good, ending the gay ban in the military ... well, you get the picture.
Change of this magnitude is extremely hard. That it is also frustrating, inadequate, compromised, flawed, and beset with bribes and trade-offs does not, in my mind, undermine it. Obama told us it would be like this - and it is. And those who backed him last year would do better, to my mind, if they appreciated the difficulty of this task and the diligence and civility that Obama has displayed in executing it.
Yes, we have. And yes, we still are the ones we've been waiting for - if we still care enough to swallow purism and pride and show up for the less emotionally satisfying grind of real, practical, incremental reform.
yeah, that's it...
did you read the link? probably not because you did not read the link in the other thread earlier today....i actually agree with him on some of these points...andrew sullivan is a conservative writer and has his own blog and writes for time magazine. surprised you have never heard of him....and even more surprised that you can't agree with him...is it because he is homosexual??? :?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I agree with the first two but the next President can be much better if we get Pelosi and Reid and those goons out of Congress control.
There are some rising stars in the GOP (not Palin), and I find it funny it only takes one year of Democratic control to make America wake up and bring life back to the GOP. I think 2010 and 2012 are going to be great years.
rising stars? try to give me 3 names that have a chance of winning in '12. palin is going to be your nominee and she will get crushed in a landslide. many polls say she hurt mccain and cost him a significant amount of votes, so how can she win when mccain was the most palatable option in 2008?. if the teabaggers get on state ballots they will siphon votes from the gop so i think the gop is in some serious trouble because the dem base will not abondon obama in the next election, no matter how angry they might be at him. i doubt very seriously that the gop will take the house or senate in '10 and '12 and will almost guarantee they will not win the white house in '12. the gop lost the 23rd NY seat that it has held since the civil war. we shall see what happens.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
i'm pretty sure it didn't take long for conservatives to get worked up into a frenzy and foaming at the mouth when Clinton was elected. ah, such family values to compare the president's daughter to a dog and call the first lady a bitch. hacks like Limbaugh, Liddy, Hannity....have 2 modes:
-their guy is in office and they gloat and look down on the other side and are hateful while shouting down and criticizing people asking questions
-the other guy is in office and they overreact to everything and are hateful while saying 'i'm just asking questions!'
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
"Worst justification of the year -- Unemployment will hit 8 percent without the stimulus bill-Pres. obama"
$787 billion later, unemployment in October reached 10.2 percent and is currently at 10 percent. Enough said.
Godfather.
no, there is more to say...I wonder what unemployment would be at without the stimulus...
Godfather
what do you know that everyone else doesn't know..? enlighten us, soothsayer...