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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    zumoff is great...'a monumental collapse by the sixers'

    this team sucks

    Zumoff is the worst. I guess CSN had nothing going on last night and showed a Wings game from like '88 or something(on Prism, sweet), and Zumoff was doing the "sideline reporting".

    They just can't finish. Terrible 4th quarter team.

    I like him. He's so cheesy he's likable...if that makes sense.

    'turns garbage into gold'...

    EDIT: actually I like all of the philly announcers. I don't like saunders goal call, but his play-by-play is solid. the only crew that sucks is the phils TV guys, except for sarge...ironic since the phils are my favorite of the 4
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,066
    Horrible 4th quarter. They had what, 11 turnovers? :roll:
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    time to go for lottory balls.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    81 wrote:
    time to go for lottory balls.


    ...by playing the young guys they are already playing? :roll: :think: :lol:
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    81 wrote:
    time to go for lottory balls.


    ...by playing the young guys they are already playing? :roll: :think: :lol:

    it was good to see tony battie getting key minutes at the end of the 4th on friday night :?

    collins has done a great job, but I don't get that at all
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    The Fixer wrote:
    81 wrote:
    time to go for lottory balls.


    ...by playing the young guys they are already playing? :roll: :think: :lol:

    it was good to see tony battie getting key minutes at the end of the 4th on friday night :?

    collins has done a great job, but I don't get that at all

    he played 3 minutes total. looks like right at the end of the 4th? i don't get that...

    i was out and missed the game but checking updates on my phone. stopped checking when they were up by 20 in the 4th. turned to a friend and said "can you believe the sixers are about to win their 4th straight?" woops :lol:
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:


    ...by playing the young guys they are already playing? :roll: :think: :lol:

    it was good to see tony battie getting key minutes at the end of the 4th on friday night :?

    collins has done a great job, but I don't get that at all

    he played 3 minutes total. looks like right at the end of the 4th? i don't get that...

    i was out and missed the game but checking updates on my phone. stopped checking when they were up by 20 in the 4th. turned to a friend and said "can you believe the sixers are about to win their 4th straight?" woops :lol:

    yeah, he was in there in the fourth. I was laughing when I saw that.

    I thought game was over in the third. was watching dateline nbc with the wife (she loves that shit). I got a text from a buddy that the sixers suck. I was so confused...I figured the game was over. Flipped back and saw that it was tied.

    Kate Fagan's article about iguodala today was pretty good. Here's my favorite paragraph...


    Even if the Sixers have a shot at this season's playoffs, it's meaningless in the NBA to be the sixth, seventh, or eighth seed. The team would merely be delaying the inevitable: admitting they're not good enough to contend. Yes, trading Iguodala might make it more difficult for the team to earn one of the aforementioned playoff spots, but at this time the franchise can't concern itself with meaningless playoff appearances when faced with such a crucial decision.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    it was good to see tony battie getting key minutes at the end of the 4th on friday night :?

    collins has done a great job, but I don't get that at all

    he played 3 minutes total. looks like right at the end of the 4th? i don't get that...

    i was out and missed the game but checking updates on my phone. stopped checking when they were up by 20 in the 4th. turned to a friend and said "can you believe the sixers are about to win their 4th straight?" woops :lol:

    yeah, he was in there in the fourth. I was laughing when I saw that.

    I thought game was over in the third. was watching dateline nbc with the wife (she loves that shit). I got a text from a buddy that the sixers suck. I was so confused...I figured the game was over. Flipped back and saw that it was tied.

    Kate Fagan's article about iguodala today was pretty good. Here's my favorite paragraph...


    Even if the Sixers have a shot at this season's playoffs, it's meaningless in the NBA to be the sixth, seventh, or eighth seed. The team would merely be delaying the inevitable: admitting they're not good enough to contend. Yes, trading Iguodala might make it more difficult for the team to earn one of the aforementioned playoff spots, but at this time the franchise can't concern itself with meaningless playoff appearances when faced with such a crucial decision.

    haha....you're funny dude. she presented two arguments to trading him. i read it. obviously this was the part you liked. :lol:

    i don't really fall into either of the two arguments she posted. to me everything is not black or white. i think the team can continue to improve without him (by saying that i mean still winning around 35-38 games). i think they're like 6-7 without him this year. get rid of him. hopefully get some expiring contracts and see what happens. in the nba there's clearly not much difference between, say, the 16th pick and 17th pick in the draft anyway if they end up with a low seed. just learn how to win and let these young bucks grow up in the process. :thumbup:


    edit---kate fagan is awesome. that chick knows her hoops.
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837

    haha....you're funny dude. she presented two arguments to trading him. i read it. obviously this was the part you liked. :lol:

    i don't really fall into either of the two arguments she posted. to me everything is not black or white. i think the team can continue to improve without him (by saying that i mean still winning around 35-38 games). i think they're like 6-7 without him this year. get rid of him. hopefully get some expiring contracts and see what happens. in the nba there's clearly not much difference between, say, the 16th pick and 17th pick in the draft anyway if they end up with a low seed. just learn how to win and let these young bucks grow up in the process. :thumbup:


    edit---kate fagan is awesome. that chick knows her hoops.

    yeah, I know she showed both sides...I never said she insinuated he should be traded. Point is, as I've been saying, is that getting another shit playoff seed is nothing to get excited about.

    They should try to trade him, but it's gonna be tough. I wouldn't give him away.

    Dalembert's expiring contract sure would be nice right about now.

    This team is constructed about as well as a soup sandwich
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    The Fixer wrote:

    haha....you're funny dude. she presented two arguments to trading him. i read it. obviously this was the part you liked. :lol:

    i don't really fall into either of the two arguments she posted. to me everything is not black or white. i think the team can continue to improve without him (by saying that i mean still winning around 35-38 games). i think they're like 6-7 without him this year. get rid of him. hopefully get some expiring contracts and see what happens. in the nba there's clearly not much difference between, say, the 16th pick and 17th pick in the draft anyway if they end up with a low seed. just learn how to win and let these young bucks grow up in the process. :thumbup:


    edit---kate fagan is awesome. that chick knows her hoops.

    yeah, I know she showed both sides...I never said she insinuated he should be traded. Point is, as I've been saying, is that getting another shit playoff seed is nothing to get excited about.

    They should try to trade him, but it's gonna be tough. I wouldn't give him away.

    Dalembert's expiring contract sure would be nice right about now.

    This team is constructed about as well as a soup sandwich

    nobody's excited about a 7th seed man. after the first 3 seeds you can argue nobody has a shot in the nba anyway. the point is there's hardly any difference between mid teen picks in the nba draft. it is a total crap shoot. and they are not nearly as bad as to fall far enough to have a good shot at a top pick. in my opinion the experience will only be good for these young bucks. :mrgreen:
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837

    after the first 3 seeds you can argue nobody has a shot in the nba anyway. :

    bingo. need star players to win in the NBA. sixers have zero
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    The Fixer wrote:

    after the first 3 seeds you can argue nobody has a shot in the nba anyway. :

    bingo. need star players to win in the NBA. sixers have zero

    how you gonna get one by missing the playoffs by a couple games, guy? yes, i just "guy'd" you. :lol: you must have much more faith in the 15 pick in the nba draft than i do.

    gotta work with what you have. so let these young bucks learn how to win. hopefully jrue holiday turns out to be as good as i think he has a shot at being and maybe, bingo, you got a star there. only one way to find out. :mrgreen:
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:

    after the first 3 seeds you can argue nobody has a shot in the nba anyway. :

    bingo. need star players to win in the NBA. sixers have zero

    how you gonna get one by missing the playoffs by a couple games, guy? yes, i just "guy'd" you. :lol: you must have much more faith in the 15 pick in the nba draft than i do.

    gotta work with what you have. so let these young bucks learn how to win. hopefully jrue holiday turns out to be as good as i think he has a shot at being and maybe, bingo, you got a star there. only one way to find out. :mrgreen:

    easiest way to get star players is via free agency...which is why they should be trying to acquire as many expiring contracts as possible. perfect example of why I hated the dalembert trade when it went down...and I hate it even more now (after seeing hawes and nocioni play for 4 months)

    they're a mess. you stay optimistic though :D
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    how you gonna get one by missing the playoffs by a couple games, guy? yes, i just "guy'd" you. :lol: you must have much more faith in the 15 pick in the nba draft than i do.

    gotta work with what you have. so let these young bucks learn how to win. hopefully jrue holiday turns out to be as good as i think he has a shot at being and maybe, bingo, you got a star there. only one way to find out. :mrgreen:


    easiest way to get star players is via free agency...
    which is why they should be trying to acquire as many expiring contracts as possible. perfect example of why I hated the dalembert trade when it went down...and I hate it even more now (after seeing hawes and nocioni play for 4 months)

    they're a mess. you stay optimistic though :D

    so then i don't get why you keep saying they should tank the season. you keep contracting yourself.
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837

    so then i don't get why you keep saying they should tank the season. you keep contracting yourself.

    free agency is the easiest way...top 10 picks don't hurt either

    this team is stuck in an endless cycle of mediocrity. I just don't see how you can get behind such ineptitude. I know you keep bringing up holiday in the middle of the 1st round as a good pick, which it was. The success rate of picks in the top 10 are most likely higher than picking around 20...so the more games they lose, the better they are in my opinion.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    The Fixer wrote:

    so then i don't get why you keep saying they should tank the season. you keep contracting yourself.

    free agency is the easiest way...top 10 picks don't hurt either

    this team is stuck in an endless cycle of mediocrity. I just don't see how you can get behind such ineptitude. I know you keep bringing up holiday in the middle of the 1st round as a good pick, which it was. The success rate of picks in the top 10 are most likely higher than picking around 20...so the more games they lose, the better they are in my opinion.

    i think the bottom line is we view the current talent level differently. i'm not thinking of getting a top pick in the draft because i think we're too good to lose enough games to get us to that point. i see them winning around 35-38 games. you've mentioned john hollinger from time to time, when he agrees with your views :lol: , he's got them at 39 wins in his projections today. so again, i don't think i'm being overly optimistic about calling them a below average team, i think i'm being very realistic.

    and this year's draft is not supposed to be that deep. even so, in the nba after the first few picks, its a crap shoot. i mean your boy spencer hawes went 10th a couple years ago. yeah! let's get the 10th pick in the nba draft! if they miss the playoffs, you're getting somewhere around 13-16. awesome.

    regarding the mediocrity, if you can't see the difference between this years team and last year's, again--i will say you are not watching them consistently. they're clearly better and moving in the right direction. but i support my teams win or lose. and i call them out if they are going nowhere. not sure when you started posting here but all you have to to is flip back to the beginning of this thread last year to see that.
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    you're rambling dude. is this team better than last year? of course...but that's not saying much.

    if you think they're well set up for the next few years...well, then I don't know what to tell you. I just don't see it. holiday and young (who may not even be here next year) are nice pieces. turner looks like he's gonna be a good, but not great player. that gives you 3 guys. it takes a lot more than that to become a serious contender.

    what the hell does marissa miller see in the chris anderson? he looks like a HUUUGE douche
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    solid win vs a good team. that's how you finish.

    fantastic game by iguadala...young thadeous--doug collins is getting so much out of this kid...the rook didn't shoot too well but i love the effort. 2 rebounds shy of a double double. this bench is pretty damn good.

    4 out of 5 with the nets on deck and then a home and home against the knicks.


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    edit--doug collins' press conferences are actually enjoyable to watch. guy's funny and is a wealth of knowledge.
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,066
    solid win vs a good team. that's how you finish.

    fantastic game by iguadala...young thadeous--doug collins is getting so much out of this kid...the rook didn't shoot too well but i love the effort. 2 rebounds shy of a double double. this bench is pretty damn good.

    4 out of 5 with the nets on deck and then a home and home against the knicks.


    :thumbup:




    edit--doug collins' press conferences are actually enjoyable to watch. guy's funny and is a wealth of knowledge.


    With all the all star games on and the other NBA games on tv, I didn't even know they played :lol: Glad they won. How did your man Iggy do? ;)
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    solid win vs a good team. that's how you finish.

    fantastic game by iguadala...young thadeous--doug collins is getting so much out of this kid...the rook didn't shoot too well but i love the effort. 2 rebounds shy of a double double. this bench is pretty damn good.

    4 out of 5 with the nets on deck and then a home and home against the knicks.


    :thumbup:




    edit--doug collins' press conferences are actually enjoyable to watch. guy's funny and is a wealth of knowledge.


    With all the all star games on and the other NBA games on tv, I didn't even know they played :lol: Glad they won. How did your man Iggy do? ;)

    he actually played like an all star last night. if dude plays even 3/4ths as good on a consistent basis, i'd say keep him. he'll probably come out and give us 9 points against the nets...
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    again, i'm obviously not a big iguadala fan. but he was awesome last night. kate fagan's take:

    Is Iguodala stepping up?

    What we have this season is a 76ers team that is good enough to beat teams like the Orlando Magic and Chicago Bulls, but bad enough to lose twice at the Washington Wizards and at home against the Memphis Grizzlies. Essentially, this is a team without a leader. And that's the primary reason for the continued end-of-game collapses like Friday night's miserable loss to the Grizzlies. But the day after that game, Sixers coach Doug Collins held practice, something he might not have done had his team beaten Memphis. Something he might not have done if Collins didn't feel it essential to gather his team for some court time and perhaps a mental evaluation.

    But what maybe, just maybe, might have happened during that practice day on Saturday was that Andre Iguodala (might have, just maybe) decided he could do more for this team. And by that, he wasn't deciding to shoot more three pointers or maintain possession of the ball longer, but deciding to play with his heart on his sleeve. All out. All the time. Not worrying about how the fans react, or what people might think, or whether or not that last dunk would make ESPN's Top 10 Plays.

    Because what we saw tonight from Iguodala, during the team's 110-99 victory over the Denver Nuggets, was something we haven't seen in years -- if ever -- from him. During the 2008-09 season, the team leader was more Andre Miller than Iguodala. Last season, the team didn't have a leader. This season, until now, there were a few players that would occasionally step up, but none that were prepared for the role every night. And who knows what may happen going forward. We've seen Iguodala play well and then, the very next night, struggle in all facets. Who knows which player will show up against the New Jersey Nets. But if it's the player that showed up tonight against the Denver Nuggets, then the Sixers have just elevated themselves from somewhat interesting to very interesting.

    *Iguodala always plays hard, but it's often just solid effort and not over-the-top effort. Tonight, he was on the floor twice in one possession. We'd be hard pressed to remember another time he dove on the floor, let alone twice in one possession. And this was in the first half of the game. There was something different about the way he was playing tonight. He seemed engaged and excited to play rather than just being a good trooper and playing hard like he's supposed to. There was some emotion and excitement behind it.

    *In the locker room after the game, guys were saying this began the day before, in practice, when Iguodala talked to them about needing to be focused every time they were on the court together, and not just during game time. That means shootarounds and between-game practices. On the board after tonight's win was the practice time for tomorrow at PCOM and then, in black Sharpie, the phrase "the business of basketball," essentially saying that for the length of practice, everyone should be locked into the game. We've never seen this before, nothing even close to it. Considering how often the team loses focus for important stretches, practicing with this kind of focus is no small matter. And, according to some of the guys, Iguodala was the leader in this movement.

    So, it may not last. It might all be washed away with another troublesome loss, but on this night, the Sixers had a leader and a franchise player. And it made all of the differenc
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    igoudala is a great player in the right role ... he can't take over games although lately he has made some buckets late in the game ... i've always said this team is not too bad ... i think i saw a stat saying the sixers were 3-11 in games decided by 5 points or less ... that's just inexperience and immaturity ... this team is young and there are enough pieces to build around ...

    you gotta remember he's also playing hurt ... when it's your achilles - it's not good ... just don't expect him to be kobe ...
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    ping pong :eh:
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    polaris_x wrote:
    igoudala is a great player in the right role ... he can't take over games although lately he has made some buckets late in the game ... i've always said this team is not too bad ... i think i saw a stat saying the sixers were 3-11 in games decided by 5 points or less ... that's just inexperience and immaturity ... this team is young and there are enough pieces to build around ...

    you gotta remember he's also playing hurt ... when it's your achilles - it's not good ... just don't expect him to be kobe ...

    i think they're 18-12 or so since that start. i'm not much of an iggy fan but he dominated carmello last night. all phases of the game. dominated him. and the nuggets have been playing real well lately.

    he's had games like this before. i'm interested in seeing if he can keep this up for a prolonged period of time. this is the first team in quite a while that is actually fun to watch. thinking about going to the knicks game next weekend.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    i think they're 18-12 or so since that start. i'm not much of an iggy fan but he dominated carmello last night. all phases of the game. dominated him. and the nuggets have been playing real well lately.

    he's had games like this before. i'm interested in seeing if he can keep this up for a prolonged period of time. this is the first team in quite a while that is actually fun to watch. thinking about going to the knicks game next weekend.

    you just need to temper your expectations ... this team will go in droughts and make a lot of mistakes ... it's not a veteran team like the Celtics ...
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    polaris_x wrote:
    i think they're 18-12 or so since that start. i'm not much of an iggy fan but he dominated carmello last night. all phases of the game. dominated him. and the nuggets have been playing real well lately.

    he's had games like this before. i'm interested in seeing if he can keep this up for a prolonged period of time. this is the first team in quite a while that is actually fun to watch. thinking about going to the knicks game next weekend.

    you just need to temper your expectations ... this team will go in droughts and make a lot of mistakes ... it's not a veteran team like the Celtics ...

    ha...my expectations are wins in the mid to upper 30's. let's not get crazy now.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    ha...my expectations are wins in the mid to upper 30's. let's not get crazy now.

    i wouldn't be surprised if they can break the 40 win barrier in the eastern conference ... anyone watch TNT's all star picks before the miami and okla city game? ... they couldn't even fill out the eastern conference roster because it was so bad ...
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    polaris_x wrote:
    ha...my expectations are wins in the mid to upper 30's. let's not get crazy now.

    i wouldn't be surprised if they can break the 40 win barrier in the eastern conference ... anyone watch TNT's all star picks before the miami and okla city game? ... they couldn't even fill out the eastern conference roster because it was so bad ...

    do you read john hollinger at all? he's got them 14 in his power ratings (i think he had them at 26 going into the season) and has them finishing 40-42. all depends on what they do or don't do at the deadline obviously...
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    do you read john hollinger at all? he's got them 14 in his power ratings (i think he had them at 26 going into the season) and has them finishing 40-42. all depends on what they do or don't do at the deadline obviously...

    they'd be silly to do anything at the deadline except gain relief from salary until a new CBA is in place ...
  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    The Fixer wrote:

    so then i don't get why you keep saying they should tank the season. you keep contracting yourself.

    free agency is the easiest way...top 10 picks don't hurt either

    this team is stuck in an endless cycle of mediocrity. I just don't see how you can get behind such ineptitude. I know you keep bringing up holiday in the middle of the 1st round as a good pick, which it was. The success rate of picks in the top 10 are most likely higher than picking around 20...so the more games they lose, the better they are in my opinion.


    tanking for a couple of seasons and drafting a stud with the top pick is the way to go. Free agency is expensive.
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