Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023 MSG 2024, MSG 2024 Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
well, look at Porcello, who looked great last year while the Tigers disregarded innings limits. He was sent down to AAA with a 6.17 ERA. Another victim of the dreaded verducci Effect. I support any and alll means to keep Hughes off that list next year
well, look at Porcello, who looked great last year while the Tigers disregarded innings limits. He was sent down to AAA with a 6.17 ERA. Another victim of the dreaded verducci Effect. I support any and alll means to keep Hughes off that list next year
Mike Pelfrey also to some extent - 200 innings in 2008 because the Mets needed all those games and during the last 31 innings, he had a 4.06 ERA after going 11-2 in a stretch of 113 2/3 innings. And then last year he craps out to 10-12, I don't think that's necessarily a coincidence, especially since his time in the minors was limited.
Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023 MSG 2024, MSG 2024 Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
especially now that they're gonna skip Hughes a few times in the coming weeks.
a few times? i had heard it was only going to be his next start they were going to skip. not that girardi won't skip him again later in the season when he gets a chance to...but to skip a few starts?? i hope these aren't a few in a row.
especially now that they're gonna skip Hughes a few times in the coming weeks.
a few times? i had heard it was only going to be his next start they were going to skip. not that girardi won't skip him again later in the season when he gets a chance to...but to skip a few starts?? i hope these aren't a few in a row.
Wont be a few in a row. They dont want him resting that much.
I'd just like to add here that I was just listening to the Spectrum 2 show and was "appreciating" all the "Yankees Suck" chanting and the Wishlist changed lyrics to "beating the Yankees". That along with all the score updates....(I was getting pretty pissed about that part of it when I was there for the Halloween Show...)
Makes me smile now. Who got the last laugh on that one?
I'd just like to add here that I was just listening to the Spectrum 2 show and was "appreciating" all the "Yankees Suck" chanting and the Wishlist changed lyrics to "beating the Yankees". That along with all the score updates....(I was getting pretty pissed about that part of it when I was there for the Halloween Show...)
Makes me smile now. Who got the last laugh on that one?
Go Yanks
that score girl went missing pretty quick
i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
Share Retweet Originally Published: June 23, 2010Org watch: Red Sox, Yanks, Blue JaysCasey Kelly's struggles, a slew of catchers for Jays and possible NYY movesEmail Print Comments By Kevin Goldstein
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Brandon Laird, the brother of the Tigers' Gerald, could be trade bait this summer for the Yankees.
Today, we're going to look at three of the top teams in the American League East (arguably the best division in baseball). The New York Yankees and Boston Red Sox are battling at the top with the Tampa Bay Rays; meanwhile, the Toronto Blue Jays are among the biggest surprises in the first half of this MLB season.
Some quick snapshots:
• Scouts are looking at some impressive talent at the Yankees' Double-A affiliate in preparation for July trade talks.
• The Red Sox have had a tough season down at the farm, and a scout chimes in on the struggles of top pitching prospect Casey Kelly.
• While most teams would be happy to have just one good catching prospect in the system, the Jays are loaded with them.
Yankees: Double-A roster generating attention
Many of the Yankees' top prospects are at the lower levels in the early part of their careers and such players are in a position where it's very hard to maximize their value due to the gap between upside and reality. Despite some struggles at Triple-A, catcher Jesus Montero is untouchable unless there's a real blockbuster in the works, but the squad at Double-A Trenton is generating plenty of attention from scouts. Some mid-level talents have stepped up with big seasons and could be attractive trade chips come July.
3B Brandon Laird is one of those guys. A 27th-round pick in 2007 out of a California junior college, Laird has taken the biggest step forward out of any player in the Yankee system. The younger brother of Tigers catcher Gerald Laird, Brandon leads the Eastern League in runs (51), RBIs (65) and extra-base hits (33) as part of a .293/.345/.545 line in 67 games; scouts praise his combination of hitting skills and above-average raw power. He's an average-at-best third baseman whose only other defensive option is first, and the big league squad has some guys you might have heard of at those two positions, so he represents a surplus that the Yankees can deal from.
RHP Hector Noesi is the other main guy. A 23-year-old Dominican, Noesi is among the best finesse pitchers in the minors, as last year he walked just 15 batters in 117 innings. The thing that makes him unique is that unlike most who pitch with his style, Noesi has some stuff as well. His fastball is fringe-plus and he throws a quality curve/change combination as secondary pitches. Scouts were initially a bit leery about his game working at the upper levels, but the Eastern League has yet to provide any real problems (four earned runs over 29 innings in his last four starts). He's no more than a No. 4/No.5 starter; as a result, he could be attractive for a team looking to reload.
Red Sox: Casey no longer at the bat, yet struggling
While the Red Sox have righted the big-league ship of late to make the American League East a three-team race, the news is not equally good down on the farm. Several top prospects have struggled in 2010. The system still has the depth to make deals, but many of the team's top prospects coming into the season have seen their stock take a hit. On the hitting side, both first baseman Lars Anderson and outfielder Josh Reddick have met significant struggles at Triple-A Pawtucket, while few pitchers at the upper levels have done anything to impress, other than recently called up Felix Doubront.
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Casey Kelly is struggling after converting fully to a pitcher.
One of the more puzzling performances has been that of right-hander Casey Kelly. Expected to take a big step forward now that he's given up playing SS and dedicated himself solely to pitching, the 2008 first-round pick is one of the youngest pitchers in the Eastern League. Here's the problem: the 20-year-old has a 4.85 ERA in 13 starts for Portland. Guys are raking at .308 against him. Maybe more disturbing is the loss of his once-outstanding control, as after walking just 16 batters in 95 innings last year, he's already handed out 21 in just 52 frames in 2010.
"I wish I could give you an exact explanation for what's going on," said one veteran scout who has seen Kelly multiple times over the past two years. "His arm strength is there, as in the movement on his fastball and the quality break in his curveball. It's something that's hard to really put your finger on, but every pitch lacks the crispness we saw last year, and he just doesn't have the same location."
He's exceedingly young for his level, and his previous track record gives some room for optimism, but for now, he's lost in some pretty tall weeds. "That said," the scout concluded, "I'd still take him in a second."
Blue Jays: Rich in backstops
There are plenty of teams in baseball that would be happy with just one good catching prospect, but all of a sudden, the Blue Jays are absolutely loaded with them, even beyond young Venezuelan Carlos Perez, one of the early talks of the New York-Penn League. All four full-season leagues are starting a legitimate big-league prospect at the position, an extreme rarity considering the rising scarcity of quality backstops.
In his second year at Triple-A, 2007 first-round pick J.P. Arencibia is having a breakout campaign -- .288/.336/.572, including eight home runs in his last 18 games. Extremely athletic for a catcher, Arencibia is first in line for the 2011 job, but he'll have plenty of talent in his rearview mirror.
A pleasant surprise at Double-A New Hampshire has been the play of Brian Jeroloman, one of the better defensive catchers around whose previous offensive value seemed to revolve solely around his ability to draw walks in bunches. He's still walking like it's going out of style, with 45 against just 152 at-bats, but he's suddenly hitting this year as well, while a monstrous line of .303/.465/.507. Always seen as a potential backup based on the glove alone, the 25-year-old could end up even better than that.
At the lower levels are more projection types than 'now' talents, but few players in the Florida State League have been generating more impressive scouting reports than Travis D'Arnaud. Acquired from the Phillies in the Roy Halladay deal, a recent slump has dropped his batting line to .266/.320/.435, but his tools give him true star potential will well above-average bat speed, power and arm strength. The sleeper of the group is 20-year-old A.J. Jimenez at Low-A Lansing. A ninth-round pick in 2008 out of Puerto Rico, Jimenez has shown good hand-eye coordination and the ability to use all fields during his .308/.356/.456 showing for the Lugnuts, but like Jeroloman he's actually earned more praise for his defense in the past, and it's no different this year, as he's gunned down 54 percent of opposing base stealers.
Thanks, man. I have heard a lot of good things about Laird.
with their aging team and current staff, I think it would be dumb for them to give up a top prospect. they can roll out sabathia, pettite, and vazquez in round 1. that's not too shabby
Thanks, man. I have heard a lot of good things about Laird.
with their aging team and current staff, I think it would be dumb for them to give up a top prospect. they can roll out sabathia, pettite, and vazquez in round 1. that's not too shabby
I agree. I have said mulitple times that I don't see them making a move, especially for lee when they can just sign him after the season. I would be much more inclined and happy if they were to trade laird though and keep Romine. I really think he is the next Yankees catcher.
Thanks, man. I have heard a lot of good things about Laird.
with their aging team and current staff, I think it would be dumb for them to give up a top prospect. they can roll out sabathia, pettite, and vazquez in round 1. that's not too shabby
I agree. I have said mulitple times that I don't see them making a move, especially for lee when they can just sign him after the season. I would be much more inclined and happy if they were to trade laird though and keep Romine. I really think he is the next Yankees catcher.
what would happen with cervelli? i love that kid, would hate to see him go.
haven't seen a pitch, it's a great night on the baseball package - first rollins homers off Wood and then Giambi homers off Papelbon.
Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023 MSG 2024, MSG 2024 Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
Comments
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
I just turned it off and went to bed.
AJ needs to get his shit together.
Charlotte 03
Asheville 04
Atlanta 12
Greenville 16, Columbia 16
Seattle 18
Nashville 22
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
losing to the d-backs stings almost as much as losing to the o's.
especially now that they're gonna skip Hughes a few times in the coming weeks.
ok andy we need ya again
well, look at Porcello, who looked great last year while the Tigers disregarded innings limits. He was sent down to AAA with a 6.17 ERA. Another victim of the dreaded verducci Effect. I support any and alll means to keep Hughes off that list next year
Mike Pelfrey also to some extent - 200 innings in 2008 because the Mets needed all those games and during the last 31 innings, he had a 4.06 ERA after going 11-2 in a stretch of 113 2/3 innings. And then last year he craps out to 10-12, I don't think that's necessarily a coincidence, especially since his time in the minors was limited.
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
andy dandy again crazy crazy
hopefully arod is gonna get going wit tex
Halladay: Win
Moyer: Loss
Kendrick: Loss
Takahashi: Loss
Pelfrey: Win
Santana: Win
Lopez: Loss
Haren: Win
gearing up for the post-season top guys
True, at least they are showing they can beat top pitchers.
a few times? i had heard it was only going to be his next start they were going to skip. not that girardi won't skip him again later in the season when he gets a chance to...but to skip a few starts?? i hope these aren't a few in a row.
Wont be a few in a row. They dont want him resting that much.
Makes me smile now. Who got the last laugh on that one?
Go Yanks
that score girl went missing pretty quick
Share Retweet Originally Published: June 23, 2010Org watch: Red Sox, Yanks, Blue JaysCasey Kelly's struggles, a slew of catchers for Jays and possible NYY movesEmail Print Comments By Kevin Goldstein
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Brandon Laird, the brother of the Tigers' Gerald, could be trade bait this summer for the Yankees.
Today, we're going to look at three of the top teams in the American League East (arguably the best division in baseball). The New York Yankees and Boston Red Sox are battling at the top with the Tampa Bay Rays; meanwhile, the Toronto Blue Jays are among the biggest surprises in the first half of this MLB season.
Some quick snapshots:
• Scouts are looking at some impressive talent at the Yankees' Double-A affiliate in preparation for July trade talks.
• The Red Sox have had a tough season down at the farm, and a scout chimes in on the struggles of top pitching prospect Casey Kelly.
• While most teams would be happy to have just one good catching prospect in the system, the Jays are loaded with them.
Yankees: Double-A roster generating attention
Many of the Yankees' top prospects are at the lower levels in the early part of their careers and such players are in a position where it's very hard to maximize their value due to the gap between upside and reality. Despite some struggles at Triple-A, catcher Jesus Montero is untouchable unless there's a real blockbuster in the works, but the squad at Double-A Trenton is generating plenty of attention from scouts. Some mid-level talents have stepped up with big seasons and could be attractive trade chips come July.
3B Brandon Laird is one of those guys. A 27th-round pick in 2007 out of a California junior college, Laird has taken the biggest step forward out of any player in the Yankee system. The younger brother of Tigers catcher Gerald Laird, Brandon leads the Eastern League in runs (51), RBIs (65) and extra-base hits (33) as part of a .293/.345/.545 line in 67 games; scouts praise his combination of hitting skills and above-average raw power. He's an average-at-best third baseman whose only other defensive option is first, and the big league squad has some guys you might have heard of at those two positions, so he represents a surplus that the Yankees can deal from.
RHP Hector Noesi is the other main guy. A 23-year-old Dominican, Noesi is among the best finesse pitchers in the minors, as last year he walked just 15 batters in 117 innings. The thing that makes him unique is that unlike most who pitch with his style, Noesi has some stuff as well. His fastball is fringe-plus and he throws a quality curve/change combination as secondary pitches. Scouts were initially a bit leery about his game working at the upper levels, but the Eastern League has yet to provide any real problems (four earned runs over 29 innings in his last four starts). He's no more than a No. 4/No.5 starter; as a result, he could be attractive for a team looking to reload.
Red Sox: Casey no longer at the bat, yet struggling
While the Red Sox have righted the big-league ship of late to make the American League East a three-team race, the news is not equally good down on the farm. Several top prospects have struggled in 2010. The system still has the depth to make deals, but many of the team's top prospects coming into the season have seen their stock take a hit. On the hitting side, both first baseman Lars Anderson and outfielder Josh Reddick have met significant struggles at Triple-A Pawtucket, while few pitchers at the upper levels have done anything to impress, other than recently called up Felix Doubront.
Getty Images
Casey Kelly is struggling after converting fully to a pitcher.
One of the more puzzling performances has been that of right-hander Casey Kelly. Expected to take a big step forward now that he's given up playing SS and dedicated himself solely to pitching, the 2008 first-round pick is one of the youngest pitchers in the Eastern League. Here's the problem: the 20-year-old has a 4.85 ERA in 13 starts for Portland. Guys are raking at .308 against him. Maybe more disturbing is the loss of his once-outstanding control, as after walking just 16 batters in 95 innings last year, he's already handed out 21 in just 52 frames in 2010.
"I wish I could give you an exact explanation for what's going on," said one veteran scout who has seen Kelly multiple times over the past two years. "His arm strength is there, as in the movement on his fastball and the quality break in his curveball. It's something that's hard to really put your finger on, but every pitch lacks the crispness we saw last year, and he just doesn't have the same location."
He's exceedingly young for his level, and his previous track record gives some room for optimism, but for now, he's lost in some pretty tall weeds. "That said," the scout concluded, "I'd still take him in a second."
Blue Jays: Rich in backstops
There are plenty of teams in baseball that would be happy with just one good catching prospect, but all of a sudden, the Blue Jays are absolutely loaded with them, even beyond young Venezuelan Carlos Perez, one of the early talks of the New York-Penn League. All four full-season leagues are starting a legitimate big-league prospect at the position, an extreme rarity considering the rising scarcity of quality backstops.
In his second year at Triple-A, 2007 first-round pick J.P. Arencibia is having a breakout campaign -- .288/.336/.572, including eight home runs in his last 18 games. Extremely athletic for a catcher, Arencibia is first in line for the 2011 job, but he'll have plenty of talent in his rearview mirror.
A pleasant surprise at Double-A New Hampshire has been the play of Brian Jeroloman, one of the better defensive catchers around whose previous offensive value seemed to revolve solely around his ability to draw walks in bunches. He's still walking like it's going out of style, with 45 against just 152 at-bats, but he's suddenly hitting this year as well, while a monstrous line of .303/.465/.507. Always seen as a potential backup based on the glove alone, the 25-year-old could end up even better than that.
At the lower levels are more projection types than 'now' talents, but few players in the Florida State League have been generating more impressive scouting reports than Travis D'Arnaud. Acquired from the Phillies in the Roy Halladay deal, a recent slump has dropped his batting line to .266/.320/.435, but his tools give him true star potential will well above-average bat speed, power and arm strength. The sleeper of the group is 20-year-old A.J. Jimenez at Low-A Lansing. A ninth-round pick in 2008 out of Puerto Rico, Jimenez has shown good hand-eye coordination and the ability to use all fields during his .308/.356/.456 showing for the Lugnuts, but like Jeroloman he's actually earned more praise for his defense in the past, and it's no different this year, as he's gunned down 54 percent of opposing base stealers.
with their aging team and current staff, I think it would be dumb for them to give up a top prospect. they can roll out sabathia, pettite, and vazquez in round 1. that's not too shabby
I agree. I have said mulitple times that I don't see them making a move, especially for lee when they can just sign him after the season. I would be much more inclined and happy if they were to trade laird though and keep Romine. I really think he is the next Yankees catcher.
what would happen with cervelli? i love that kid, would hate to see him go.
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
Giambi's being the most important.