The Official New York Yankees Thread

xavier mcdaniel

Cliffy6745 wrote:

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Hellickson ROY, Nova 4th.

I think that was right, Nova's ERA wasn't under four until August 21 and it's very rare for someone with an ERA over 3.50 to win any award. Plus you look at the last two AL Cy Young votes for precedence where ERA trumps wins.

I have no problem with it. Nova is not in Hellickson's league.

Only pitcher to win rookie of the year with an ERA over 3.50 was Jason Jennings. He won it with an ERA of 4.52 pitching for Colorado and practically won it unamiousmly.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/award ... html#NLroy

Johnny Abruzzo

igotid88 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

g under p wrote:

This day in history...

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-hist ... he-yankees

Peace

Unbelievable series. Highest of highs, lowest of lows. Walkoffs to Mo blowing it.

I blame defensive positioning more than Mo.

As an outsider, that whole inning can point to Mariano's botching of the bunt. Yanks were totally on the defensive after that. You guys still got those amazing Jeter games with the homers from that series. Kind of like Fisk in '75 - more memorable than the final result of the series.

Cliffy6745

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

As an outsider, that whole inning can point to Mariano's botching of the bunt. Yanks were totally on the defensive after that. You guys still got those amazing Jeter games with the homers from that series. Kind of like Fisk in '75 - more memorable than the final result of the series.

No doubt, that was huge and changed the inning. I blamed the positioning for a long time but there are not many managers, if any, that wouldn't bring the infield in, in that situation.

Unbelieveble series. Those three games at home were the most incredible games ever, especially with 9/11. It was a horrible loss, but that is hands down one of my favorite baseball series' ever

Cliffy6745

Take it with a huge grain of salt, but I like this. Hopefully something becomes available

No matter what Yankees say publicly, NYY people telling friends to expect eventual big splash with a pitcher

Wobbie

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Take it with a huge grain of salt, but I like this. Hopefully something becomes available

No matter what Yankees say publicly, NYY people telling friends to expect eventual big splash with a pitcher

former cy young winner....now in the NL?

Cliffy6745

imalive wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Take it with a huge grain of salt, but I like this. Hopefully something becomes available

No matter what Yankees say publicly, NYY people telling friends to expect eventual big splash with a pitcher

former cy young winner....now in the NL?

I hope you're not talking about your 5th starter

Cliffy6745

I don't like it, I don't like it, I don't like it.

http://riveraveblues.com/2011/11/report ... ing-59273/

Newch91

Cliffy6745 wrote:

I don't like it, I don't like it, I don't like it.

http://riveraveblues.com/2011/11/report ... ing-59273/

I want Wilson.

Cliffy6745

Newch91 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

I don't like it, I don't like it, I don't like it.

http://riveraveblues.com/2011/11/report ... ing-59273/

I want Wilson.

Not for what it's going to take to get him. He's going to take close to ace money and he is not near that.

Newch91

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

I don't like it, I don't like it, I don't like it.

http://riveraveblues.com/2011/11/report ... ing-59273/

I want Wilson.

Not for what it's going to take to get him. He's going to take close to ace money and he is not near that.

I'd rather they pay him ace money than the Japanese pitcher big money. Remember Irabu and Igawa? They shouldn't even be interested in Durvish.

Cliffy6745

Newch91 wrote:

I'd rather they pay him ace money than the Japanese pitcher big money. Remember Irabu and Igawa? They shouldn't even be interested in Durvish.

I don't like that philosophy at all, can't let a couple bad decisions hold you back just because of nationality. Darvish has stupid good numbers against competition at the level similar to triple A. Cashman said the other day they are better equipped to scout a player like Darvish than they ever have been, so if they sign him, they have done their homework. Plus the good thing about Darvish is he will take a good chunk of change but only about half or a 2/3 of that will go towards their luxury tax. And he's younger.

I really do not want to the Yankees to sign Wilson to a big contract, he's good but he's not elite and it's going to take an overpay to get him in this market.

Newch91

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

I'd rather they pay him ace money than the Japanese pitcher big money. Remember Irabu and Igawa? They shouldn't even be interested in Durvish.

I don't like that philosophy at all, can't let a couple bad decisions hold you back just because of nationality. Darvish has stupid good numbers against competition at the level similar to triple A. Cashman said the other day they are better equipped to scout a player like Darvish than they ever have been, so if they sign him, they have done their homework. Plus the good thing about Darvish is he will take a good chunk of change but only about half or a 2/3 of that will go towards their luxury tax. And he's younger.

I really do not want to the Yankees to sign Wilson to a big contract, he's good but he's not elite and it's going to take an overpay to get him in this market.

Matsui worked for them, just pitchers haven't. I don't mind them signing Japanese players, but the pitchers haven't lived up to the expectations.

Cliffy6745

Wilsons agent is playing games. Now it sounds like they requested to meet with the Yankees before the winter meetings. I wonder why. Don't go for it yanks. Hang back.

Cliffy6745

Yeah, all nonsense. Asks for a meeting in new York with the Yankees them tells carig the Yankees invited him and Hal will be there. Get gone fuck nut. even brings cliff lees name into it. What a nerd, good try.

xavier mcdaniel

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Yeah, all nonsense. Asks for a meeting in new York with the Yankees them tells carig the Yankees invited him and Hal will be there. Get gone fuck nut. even brings cliff lees name into it. What a nerd, good try.

His agent is doing the right thing. He wants to see what the team with the most disposable money in the game is willing to do and challenging the other teams to match or exceed it. Any agent with any kind of sense would do the same thing.

Cliffy6745

There's a difference between getting the Yankees involved and playIng games to make it looks like the Yankees are involved.

polaris_x

Newch91 wrote:

I'd rather they pay him ace money than the Japanese pitcher big money. Remember Irabu and Igawa? They shouldn't even be interested in Durvish.

the kid is like part persian, part american and mostly japanese ...

i hope the yanks aren't interested in him and the jays can get him ... kid pitched in the world baseball classic and did pretty good there ... with no compensatory picks associated with him - i'd roll the dice ...

Johnny Abruzzo

I'm confused Cliffy - CJ seems like a good fit for your team. They can afford to overpay - it's the fucking Yankees.

BinauralJam

i want Mark Buehrle.

Newch91

I want Matsui back.

neilybabes86

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

I'm confused Cliffy - CJ seems like a good fit for your team. They can afford to overpay - it's the fucking Yankees.

major problem is he BLOWS

Cliffy6745

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

I'm confused Cliffy - CJ seems like a good fit for your team. They can afford to overpay - it's the fucking Yankees.

Yeah. he's a good fit, especially at Yankee stadium, I'm just not a fan. Dont think he's all that good and going to get paid a lot in this market

xavier mcdaniel

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

I'm confused Cliffy - CJ seems like a good fit for your team. They can afford to overpay - it's the fucking Yankees.

Yeah. he's a good fit, especially at Yankee stadium, I'm just not a fan. Dont think he's all that good and going to get paid a lot in this market

I don't think the Yankees have heavy interest. It's just that Wilson's agent is doing his dilligence and possibly trying to sell the Yankees on his other clients.

Wobbie

Cliffy6745 wrote:

imalive wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Take it with a huge grain of salt, but I like this. Hopefully something becomes available

No matter what Yankees say publicly, NYY people telling friends to expect eventual big splash with a pitcher

former cy young winner....now in the NL?

I hope you're not talking about your 5th starter

you know I am! the yankees are basically the only thing that gives us even a glimmer of hope of EVER getting rid of our #5

Cliffy6745

Braves interested in nunez. Not sure I would want jurjeens with his injuries but they definitely have some pitching.

Bronx Bombers

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Braves interested in nunez. Not sure I would want jurjeens with his injuries but they definitely have some pitching.

I'm not so sure about that guy but I'm loving the fact that swisher is drawing interest from multiple teams. Hopefully the Yankees move him this offseason I don't want to see him back in the pinstripes after another terrible postseason.

Cliffy6745

Bronx Bombers wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Braves interested in nunez. Not sure I would want jurjeens with his injuries but they definitely have some pitching.

I'm not so sure about that guy but I'm loving the fact that swisher is drawing interest from multiple teams. Hopefully the Yankees move him this offseason I don't want to see him back in the pinstripes after another terrible postseason.

Eh, not going to dump him just to dump him based on the postseason but I am sure they will be listening. I am sure they'll listen for any other their outfielders. Gotta get a good return for any of them and Swisher is definitely the least valuable.

Bronx Bombers

He's batting 160 with 4 rbi's in 100 postseason ab's as a Yankee. I don't want him on the team next October so I would love to see them move him this offseason.

Cliffy6745

Bronx Bombers wrote:

He's batting 160 with 4 rbi's in 100 postseason ab's as a Yankee. I don't want him on the team next October so I would love to see them move him this offseason.

Got to get to October first though and he has had 3 solid years with the Yankees. I am open to moving him, but you don't move him for lesser value just because he struggled in the playoffs.

xavier mcdaniel

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Bronx Bombers wrote:

He's batting 160 with 4 rbi's in 100 postseason ab's as a Yankee. I don't want him on the team next October so I would love to see them move him this offseason.

Got to get to October first though and he has had 3 solid years with the Yankees. I am open to moving him, but you don't move him for lesser value just because he struggled in the playoffs.

I agree. There are plenty of players who struggled in the playoffs that were good in the playoffs. While he's not the deciding factor for them being in October, Swisher is one of 10 right fielders to produce 20 home runs and 80 RBI last year in the majors.