I think that was right, Nova's ERA wasn't under four until August 21 and it's very rare for someone with an ERA over 3.50 to win any award. Plus you look at the last two AL Cy Young votes for precedence where ERA trumps wins.
I have no problem with it. Nova is not in Hellickson's league.
Only pitcher to win rookie of the year with an ERA over 3.50 was Jason Jennings. He won it with an ERA of 4.52 pitching for Colorado and practically won it unamiousmly.
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Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
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Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
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"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
Unbelievable series. Highest of highs, lowest of lows. Walkoffs to Mo blowing it.
I blame defensive positioning more than Mo.
As an outsider, that whole inning can point to Mariano's botching of the bunt. Yanks were totally on the defensive after that. You guys still got those amazing Jeter games with the homers from that series. Kind of like Fisk in '75 - more memorable than the final result of the series.
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As an outsider, that whole inning can point to Mariano's botching of the bunt. Yanks were totally on the defensive after that. You guys still got those amazing Jeter games with the homers from that series. Kind of like Fisk in '75 - more memorable than the final result of the series.
No doubt, that was huge and changed the inning. I blamed the positioning for a long time but there are not many managers, if any, that wouldn't bring the infield in, in that situation.
Unbelieveble series. Those three games at home were the most incredible games ever, especially with 9/11. It was a horrible loss, but that is hands down one of my favorite baseball series' ever
Take it with a huge grain of salt, but I like this. Hopefully something becomes available
No matter what Yankees say publicly, NYY people telling friends to expect eventual big splash with a pitcher
former cy young winner....now in the NL?
If I had known then what I know now...
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"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
Not for what it's going to take to get him. He's going to take close to ace money and he is not near that.
I'd rather they pay him ace money than the Japanese pitcher big money. Remember Irabu and Igawa? They shouldn't even be interested in Durvish.
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"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
I'd rather they pay him ace money than the Japanese pitcher big money. Remember Irabu and Igawa? They shouldn't even be interested in Durvish.
I don't like that philosophy at all, can't let a couple bad decisions hold you back just because of nationality. Darvish has stupid good numbers against competition at the level similar to triple A. Cashman said the other day they are better equipped to scout a player like Darvish than they ever have been, so if they sign him, they have done their homework. Plus the good thing about Darvish is he will take a good chunk of change but only about half or a 2/3 of that will go towards their luxury tax. And he's younger.
I really do not want to the Yankees to sign Wilson to a big contract, he's good but he's not elite and it's going to take an overpay to get him in this market.
I'd rather they pay him ace money than the Japanese pitcher big money. Remember Irabu and Igawa? They shouldn't even be interested in Durvish.
I don't like that philosophy at all, can't let a couple bad decisions hold you back just because of nationality. Darvish has stupid good numbers against competition at the level similar to triple A. Cashman said the other day they are better equipped to scout a player like Darvish than they ever have been, so if they sign him, they have done their homework. Plus the good thing about Darvish is he will take a good chunk of change but only about half or a 2/3 of that will go towards their luxury tax. And he's younger.
I really do not want to the Yankees to sign Wilson to a big contract, he's good but he's not elite and it's going to take an overpay to get him in this market.
Matsui worked for them, just pitchers haven't. I don't mind them signing Japanese players, but the pitchers haven't lived up to the expectations.
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"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
Wilsons agent is playing games. Now it sounds like they requested to meet with the Yankees before the winter meetings. I wonder why. Don't go for it yanks. Hang back.
Yeah, all nonsense. Asks for a meeting in new York with the Yankees them tells carig the Yankees invited him and Hal will be there. Get gone fuck nut. even brings cliff lees name into it. What a nerd, good try.
Yeah, all nonsense. Asks for a meeting in new York with the Yankees them tells carig the Yankees invited him and Hal will be there. Get gone fuck nut. even brings cliff lees name into it. What a nerd, good try.
His agent is doing the right thing. He wants to see what the team with the most disposable money in the game is willing to do and challenging the other teams to match or exceed it. Any agent with any kind of sense would do the same thing.
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"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
I'd rather they pay him ace money than the Japanese pitcher big money. Remember Irabu and Igawa? They shouldn't even be interested in Durvish.
the kid is like part persian, part american and mostly japanese ...
i hope the yanks aren't interested in him and the jays can get him ... kid pitched in the world baseball classic and did pretty good there ... with no compensatory picks associated with him - i'd roll the dice ...
I'm confused Cliffy - CJ seems like a good fit for your team. They can afford to overpay - it's the fucking Yankees.
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"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
I'm confused Cliffy - CJ seems like a good fit for your team. They can afford to overpay - it's the fucking Yankees.
Yeah. he's a good fit, especially at Yankee stadium, I'm just not a fan. Dont think he's all that good and going to get paid a lot in this market
I don't think the Yankees have heavy interest. It's just that Wilson's agent is doing his dilligence and possibly trying to sell the Yankees on his other clients.
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Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
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"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
Take it with a huge grain of salt, but I like this. Hopefully something becomes available
No matter what Yankees say publicly, NYY people telling friends to expect eventual big splash with a pitcher
former cy young winner....now in the NL?
I hope you're not talking about your 5th starter
you know I am! the yankees are basically the only thing that gives us even a glimmer of hope of EVER getting rid of our #5
If I had known then what I know now...
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Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Braves interested in nunez. Not sure I would want jurjeens with his injuries but they definitely have some pitching.
I'm not so sure about that guy but I'm loving the fact that swisher is drawing interest from multiple teams. Hopefully the Yankees move him this offseason I don't want to see him back in the pinstripes after another terrible postseason.
Braves interested in nunez. Not sure I would want jurjeens with his injuries but they definitely have some pitching.
I'm not so sure about that guy but I'm loving the fact that swisher is drawing interest from multiple teams. Hopefully the Yankees move him this offseason I don't want to see him back in the pinstripes after another terrible postseason.
Eh, not going to dump him just to dump him based on the postseason but I am sure they will be listening. I am sure they'll listen for any other their outfielders. Gotta get a good return for any of them and Swisher is definitely the least valuable.
He's batting 160 with 4 rbi's in 100 postseason ab's as a Yankee. I don't want him on the team next October so I would love to see them move him this offseason.
He's batting 160 with 4 rbi's in 100 postseason ab's as a Yankee. I don't want him on the team next October so I would love to see them move him this offseason.
Got to get to October first though and he has had 3 solid years with the Yankees. I am open to moving him, but you don't move him for lesser value just because he struggled in the playoffs.
He's batting 160 with 4 rbi's in 100 postseason ab's as a Yankee. I don't want him on the team next October so I would love to see them move him this offseason.
Got to get to October first though and he has had 3 solid years with the Yankees. I am open to moving him, but you don't move him for lesser value just because he struggled in the playoffs.
I agree. There are plenty of players who struggled in the playoffs that were good in the playoffs. While he's not the deciding factor for them being in October, Swisher is one of 10 right fielders to produce 20 home runs and 80 RBI last year in the majors.
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Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023 MSG 2024, MSG 2024 Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
Comments
Only pitcher to win rookie of the year with an ERA over 3.50 was Jason Jennings. He won it with an ERA of 4.52 pitching for Colorado and practically won it unamiousmly.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/award ... html#NLroy
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Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
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Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
As an outsider, that whole inning can point to Mariano's botching of the bunt. Yanks were totally on the defensive after that. You guys still got those amazing Jeter games with the homers from that series. Kind of like Fisk in '75 - more memorable than the final result of the series.
WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
No doubt, that was huge and changed the inning. I blamed the positioning for a long time but there are not many managers, if any, that wouldn't bring the infield in, in that situation.
Unbelieveble series. Those three games at home were the most incredible games ever, especially with 9/11. It was a horrible loss, but that is hands down one of my favorite baseball series' ever
No matter what Yankees say publicly, NYY people telling friends to expect eventual big splash with a pitcher
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
I hope you're not talking about your 5th starter
http://riveraveblues.com/2011/11/report ... ing-59273/
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
Not for what it's going to take to get him. He's going to take close to ace money and he is not near that.
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
I don't like that philosophy at all, can't let a couple bad decisions hold you back just because of nationality. Darvish has stupid good numbers against competition at the level similar to triple A. Cashman said the other day they are better equipped to scout a player like Darvish than they ever have been, so if they sign him, they have done their homework. Plus the good thing about Darvish is he will take a good chunk of change but only about half or a 2/3 of that will go towards their luxury tax. And he's younger.
I really do not want to the Yankees to sign Wilson to a big contract, he's good but he's not elite and it's going to take an overpay to get him in this market.
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
His agent is doing the right thing. He wants to see what the team with the most disposable money in the game is willing to do and challenging the other teams to match or exceed it. Any agent with any kind of sense would do the same thing.
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
the kid is like part persian, part american and mostly japanese ...
i hope the yanks aren't interested in him and the jays can get him ... kid pitched in the world baseball classic and did pretty good there ... with no compensatory picks associated with him - i'd roll the dice ...
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
major problem is he BLOWS
Yeah. he's a good fit, especially at Yankee stadium, I'm just not a fan. Dont think he's all that good and going to get paid a lot in this market
I don't think the Yankees have heavy interest. It's just that Wilson's agent is doing his dilligence and possibly trying to sell the Yankees on his other clients.
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
I'm not so sure about that guy but I'm loving the fact that swisher is drawing interest from multiple teams. Hopefully the Yankees move him this offseason I don't want to see him back in the pinstripes after another terrible postseason.
Eh, not going to dump him just to dump him based on the postseason but I am sure they will be listening. I am sure they'll listen for any other their outfielders. Gotta get a good return for any of them and Swisher is definitely the least valuable.
Got to get to October first though and he has had 3 solid years with the Yankees. I am open to moving him, but you don't move him for lesser value just because he struggled in the playoffs.
I agree. There are plenty of players who struggled in the playoffs that were good in the playoffs. While he's not the deciding factor for them being in October, Swisher is one of 10 right fielders to produce 20 home runs and 80 RBI last year in the majors.
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."