PJ Joins Campaign to close Gitmo
PJ Joins Campaign to close Gitmo
10.22.09
A coalition of US and international musicians, including Trent Reznor, R.E.M., Pearl Jam, Jackson Brown, Rise Against, Rosanne Cash, Billy Bragg and the Roots today announced they were joining the National Campaign to Close Guantanamo—a campaign led by retired Generals Robert Gard, John Johns, former member of Congress, Tom Andrews, and Vote Vets Chairman and Iraq War veteran, Jon Soltz. The musicians also launched a formal protest of the use of music used in conjunction with torture that took place at the prison and other facilities and announced they would seek the declassification of all secret government records pertaining to how music was utilized as an interrogation device.
"As Americans, many of us were alarmed and ashamed to learn what happened at Guantanamo in our names. For musicians, it’s been made even more personal given that music was used as a sort of soundtrack for the torture that went on there. While we don’t believe our music was used in this way, we lend our voices in support of the musicians, Generals and American citizens who are calling for the closure of Guantanamo with the hope that it signals to the world a renewed commitment to a humane America."
- PJ
10.22.09
A coalition of US and international musicians, including Trent Reznor, R.E.M., Pearl Jam, Jackson Brown, Rise Against, Rosanne Cash, Billy Bragg and the Roots today announced they were joining the National Campaign to Close Guantanamo—a campaign led by retired Generals Robert Gard, John Johns, former member of Congress, Tom Andrews, and Vote Vets Chairman and Iraq War veteran, Jon Soltz. The musicians also launched a formal protest of the use of music used in conjunction with torture that took place at the prison and other facilities and announced they would seek the declassification of all secret government records pertaining to how music was utilized as an interrogation device.
"As Americans, many of us were alarmed and ashamed to learn what happened at Guantanamo in our names. For musicians, it’s been made even more personal given that music was used as a sort of soundtrack for the torture that went on there. While we don’t believe our music was used in this way, we lend our voices in support of the musicians, Generals and American citizens who are calling for the closure of Guantanamo with the hope that it signals to the world a renewed commitment to a humane America."
- PJ
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Move all the inmates to Hardin, MT!
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Very important work people, respect to you.
Send my credentials to the house of detention
by bosshogg18 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:20 pm
boooooooooooo. If people want Gitmo closed then that is their opinion and the bands opinion. I for one don't see anything wrong with the way "terrorists" are treated. How do these "terrorists" treat people? Bomb and kill thousands of innocent people. Sounds like we should give them a tempra-pedic bed and a plasma screen in their cells so they are comfortable.
Yeah, but your opinion doesn't count as much as Pearl Jam's does because YOU'RE NOT IN A BAND WHOSE MUSIC IS BEING USED TO TORTURE PEOPLE!
Get it? Ya see, these bands OBJECT to their music being used to torture people...if YOU don't mind YOUR country torturing people in YOUR name then that is fine, BUT THE BANDS DO MIND..
that is the point of this post ... great to get your opinion on torture also though.
...I was always a DeadHead, but when I first heard Winston Rodney, aka the Burning Spear, sing, I became a SpearHead too!
CHILLIN LIKE BOB DYLAN!!!
Also the band doesn't even know if their music is being used. Pretty sure it isn't because it is good...give them some Creed, then that would be inhumane.
Seriously. I just people hope people think of the innocent lives that were taken by the hands of these scumbags when they think of treating these people nicely.
...I was always a DeadHead, but when I first heard Winston Rodney, aka the Burning Spear, sing, I became a SpearHead too!
Close it down!
Everyone's opinion counts.
Just because someone's opinion is different from yours doesn't make it invalid.
Couldn't agree with you more
...I was always a DeadHead, but when I first heard Winston Rodney, aka the Burning Spear, sing, I became a SpearHead too!
...I´m very sure that after jan/feb/mar/ of 2010, Guantamo is going to be history.....
This is the key issue. These people have been sitting there for years in legal limbo. Unfortunately, as time drags on, evidence on either side will degrade...witnesses die, memories fade...so I'm not even sure you could conduct a meaningful trial at this point.
That said I can't imagine any situation where I would think it's okay to hold a prisoner indefinitely without ever giving them the opportunity to defend themselves in court.
Only good comes from closing down that place down. The campaign of fear needs to end.
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Who are all these animals?
We should close it down, and we have mistreated those prisoners. The guilty and the just unlucky to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. I am really against bad treatment of others because it is beyond stupid. If we are seen as torturers, nothing in the world is going to protect us when we get caught ourselves. Just as it's stupid for the school bully to hit little Johnny and take his money, it's really, really stupid of little Johnny to get a desk and bash the bully's head in against a wall in order to teach the bully to stop his bullying. The bully gets martyred and little Johnny ends up getting three consecutive life sentences. And the bully's friends hate all of little Johnny's friends and want to make them pay for what little Johnny did. And they could spend the rest of their lives doing it...and what you have is a gang war writ large. When it comes to violence, people are stupid. The brain goes off and the knee jerks. There's gotta be a high road and someone who takes it. People on the moral high road always hold respect, and respect gets you power. Being equal to a terrorist gets you derision, not sympathy. I truly don't understand the debasement of self and of nation to get a moment's satisfaction that you're "doing something," except that it all came from the Bush II administration, an administration headed by the biggest baby ever to "serve" in the office of the presidency.
I'm not religious, but I can't help but note that the Bible's Jesus is no idiot. Jesus countered the Old Testament's eye for an eye policy because it was stupid. Turn the other cheek doesn't necessarily mean pacifism--it means you've bothered to think things through.
A fundamental concept in the American legal system is that a person is considered innocent until proven guilty. I do not think any of us is able to offer proof to support the guilt (or innocence) of any person currently being held in Guantanamo.
I support our government's efforts to track down terrorists and to prevent terrorist attacks -- although our laws and rights must be respected in the process. I do not support rounding up people who may or may not be guilty, torturing them, and then throwing them in a hole and forgetting about them for years. That is unjustifiable behavior, and it is contrary to everything for which this country does -- or should -- stand.
Close Guantanamo, move the prisoners to maximum security prisons on domestic soil, give them fair and "speedy" (silly word at this point) trials, throw the book at the individuals found guilty, and free the innocent. How can we justify any other course of action??
Yes, I signed the petition.
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you obviously never saw that movie with Jake Gyllenhal and Reese Witherspoon, based on a true story, where an innocent Arab-American man was wrongfully tortured because of wrong information. If its happened once, it can happen again, and probably has many times in the past there. damn I wish I could remember the name. will post it later.
got the cause posted on my facebook.
great movie. great example.