Pearl Jam is outdated...just take a closer look

theoceansmademe

12345AGNST1 wrote:

csickels wrote:

the OP is exactly right. PJ isn't the modern era The Who. They are to the 90's what Whitesnake and Poison were to the 80's. Ask anybody born after 1985 or so, they probably don't even know PJ as well as they know poison. If only Ed would get a reality show like Bret Michaels.

I would say Pearl Jam is just a TAD ahead of Whitesnake and Poison on the count that they still tour and release albums.

This is the worst one, comparing PJ to Whitesnake and Poison.

When's the lat time Neil Young or Bruce joined these 2 bands on stage?

sennin

Random_Wookie

I must say I got into slayer with their god hates us all album, which was an awesome album. Which I think if i have the dates right they would have been arround for about 18 years when I first discovered them. Going to see the live in october with megadeath, which will be an awesome lineup.

How can you compare the sound of PJ to that of cock rock bands like poison who had a shelf live of a couple of years?

Anyone ever listen to early pantera? They started as a glam rock band in the 80's before they changed frontman and become the an awesome heavy metal band, producing great albums such as cowboys from hell and vulgar display of power.

Why has rock lost its edge? Is it because the new and up and coming bands of today are more geared towards making money then actualy making music?

Stryker

TT8270 wrote:

In no way is it possible for Pearl Jam to make a new album that would really stand the test of time. They are, and always will be a product of the nineties. I mean look at it seriously: they haven't made a true classic rock song since 90s. If you ask anyone out there on the streets, they won't know anything post Jeremy.

This band has had its heyday and general public has forgotten about Pearl Jam already. That's the fact. They are not The Who of the modern age or any other band. But I won't say they don't make decent songs, yes they do, but everything reflects to their past. They are a band from the past and will always be remembered as a grunge band from the 90s.

I always hoped that they would progress like REM has. I guess the best albums by REM were made after they had been together for over 10 years. That didn't happen with PJ.

BUT I still like the band, I most likely won't by the new album but will go to see them if they play live somewhere near me. And I already had the greatest time with this band when they were at their peak: 1994-1996.

Try harder next time you troll.

:roll:

Zoso

seriously R.E.M.'s around the sun and up were garbage! I LOVE R.E.M. but Riot Act which was released after 10 years was a really great album. I'm fine with PJ being outdated as are the who, neil young and the beatles. EVERY band from the 1990's are ourtdated to a point. Go and listen to something that isn't 'outdated' in your eyes are leave PJ alone. I'm fine with PJ not being cool and not being as popular as they used to be. From what I have heard from Backsapcer it's going to be sensational.

Gibson

My only complaint is that when a band lasts longer than 3 albums, they get 2 criticisms:

1. This band makes the same album every time and it gets old fast.

2. Why does this band change their sound? They should stick to the format of their first two.

With this logic, they just can't win. To those naysayers: It's EVOLUTION, baby.

12345AGNST1

GREEN DAY was always targeted towards a younger audience.

Pearl Jam isn't... No shit the younger crowd knows Green Day.

Damn....

I_Am_Mike

Zod wrote:

Kind of missing the larger point. Rock music is outdated. Its a pale shadow of itself, somewhat of a joke in mainstream culture.

Yet people who were fans of rock music when it was still badass, still go to see their favorite classic rock artists in droves, allowing them to sell out arenas/tours.

When I see what modern rock has become, I understand why rock lost its edge. It's like modern artists lost the sould of rock n' roll. Watered down, pro tooled, heartless, crap.

It's no wonder its bands like pearl jam, metallica, u2, acdc that sell out arenas, and have the biggest grossing tours.

Pearl Jam went into hiding on purpose years ago, stopped making music videos, limited press, etc... They got that they wanted. A loyal fanbase without all the bs.

I don't think pearl jam itself is outdate, but rock music has gone passe. I think this is why pearl jam sells out shows. Because if you want to go to a real rock concert, or listen to real rock music, you have to go into the past

Good points. And has everyone forgotten that music still is a very corporate BIZ that wants SO badly to sell you something? Bands like Green Day still play what is generally the flavor of the target audience...pop/punk (though I don't mean to lump them in with so much crap that is mass-produced today). The music labels want to market their "product" to a target audience, which the current flavor of pop/punk does. Pearl Jam consists of guys a little older than their target audience/market who don't project the marketability that a band like Green Day can. I think they probably confuse the shit out of marketing guys and quite frankly, the band doesn't need to pander to being marketable. And that's fine. Pearl Jam doesn't need to worry about all that. They've earned the following and credibility. They can make the music they want to make without worrying keeping up with or setting new trends. With their loyal following and strings of sellouts, how can you argue with their success? I'm by no means saying Green Day has sold out, but merely that their music style is more mainstream and in tune with the "target audience". Pearl Jam is just happy to make great music and if they gain new fans...great. Their relevance to the flavors of the day makes no difference.

Random_Wookie

then could we compare the wiggles to greenday as they both target a specific audience and dont evolve or grow

Vedder_Girl77

IF they are "outdated" can someone explain to me WHY it is so hard to get a ticket to their concerts?? :roll:

jubilairesjl

to all the haters...maybe...just.... maybe you'll let your ten club membership expire and bump my seats up for the next tour....please

Gary Carter

12345AGNST1 wrote:

GREEN DAY was always targeted towards a younger audience.

Pearl Jam isn't... No shit the younger crowd knows Green Day.

Damn....

green day was not always targeted to a younger audience. i really doubt millions of 15 year olds bought warning back in 00. hell green day was even 2nd billing to blink-182 at one point. you cant get much lower once you're opening up for blink-182.

I_Am_Mike

Random_Wookie wrote:

then could we compare the wiggles to greenday as they both target a specific audience and dont evolve or grow

no comparison, the Wiggles Rule (so says my 2 year old)

Gary Carter

Random_Wookie wrote:

then could we compare the wiggles to greenday as they both target a specific audience and dont evolve or grow

yea cause insomniac-warning really sound like dookie :roll:

I_Am_Mike

metsfan wrote:

12345AGNST1 wrote:

GREEN DAY was always targeted towards a younger audience.

Pearl Jam isn't... No shit the younger crowd knows Green Day.

Damn....

green day was not always targeted to a younger audience. i really doubt millions of 15 year olds bought warning back in 00. hell green day was even 2nd billing to blink-182 at one point. you cant get much lower once you're opening up for blink-182.

but they're still in the same genre, albeit one a better executed version (of course i'm talking about blink 182......NOT)

jubilairesjl

I look at it this way....Pearl Jam can be outdated as much as you want them too but if that means they dont start sounding like Nickelback, I'll be fine.

Kilgore_Trout

Vedder_Girl77 wrote:

IF they are "outdated" can someone explain to me WHY it is so hard to get a ticket to their concerts?? :roll:

cause their outdated fan base is 30+ with too many sick days at work and too much flexible income?

Kat

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