Pearl Jam is outdated...just take a closer look

morgie2

It's a shame we gave this thread so much "airtime". I fear it's going exactly the way the op intended, and he/she is laughing at us. Makes me irritated.

Soybeans

I'm sorry I clicked on this guy's post. He is so dead wrong.
I went back and looked at some of his earlier posts to see what his deal is....
He thinks Strangest Tribe is their best song ever, and he thinks No Code is their worst album.

Do you respect those opinions?

cfbd68

Soybeans wrote:

I'm sorry I clicked on this guy's post. He is so dead wrong.
I went back and looked at some of his earlier posts to see what his deal is....
He thinks Strangest Tribe is their best song ever, and he thinks No Code is their worst album.

Do you respect those opinions?

I hope your not tapping his phones or following him around . If so I think Dick Chaney is on the site
We all have our own opinions here & should be able to express them, we are in the USA still :?

Bump30

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

bump30 wrote:

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

What?!
They are a 90's band?
I never knew this....or is somebody pulling my leg?
I always thought Binaural was their debut album? :?

Are you kidding??

No.
I always thought Jeremy and Alive were on Riot Act :? :oops:

Well then...may i suggest you check out the music section of the website!

TT8270

morgie2 wrote:

It's a shame we gave this thread so much "airtime". I fear it's going exactly the way the op intended, and he/she is laughing at us. Makes me irritated.

This really wasn't my intention. Just wanted to raise a critical discussion about the band's situation. Maybe with a startling subject ...And what do I get?

>this is stupid thread
>dumb comment
>this is where you fail with me and your opinion becomes stupid
>This is the dumbest thread ever!!
>TT8270 is an asshole...just take a closer look

>I'm sorry I clicked on this guy's post. He is so dead wrong.
>I went back and looked at some of his earlier posts to see what his deal is....
>He thinks Strangest Tribe is their best song ever, and he thinks No Code is their worst album.
>
>Do you respect those opinions?

People calling me stupid & someone seriously telling that one persons opinions are worse than others...?

Funny thing is I also tried to start a thread where folks could share some extra PJ stuff for free (offered a live CD myself) and what did we get? People mailing how they wanna wait for better stuff...and the thread just disappeared. I mean...c'mon?

I'm sorry if I have offended someone, that wasn't the case...

ps. And EVERYONE ignored the fact that I think they still make decent music and I would like to go see them. And I still think the way I wrote. Basically they make the same record again and again. No progression etc.

Ledbetterman10

I think the original poster is wrong when he says Pearl Jam is "outdated" but I think I know what he's trying to get at. They're definitely more "classic rock" than "mainstream" at point. Sort of like Iron Maiden. When a new Maiden album comes out, their hardcore fans are super-excited. Joe Metal-head will check it out. But everyone else in the world forgot they were still around.

Snoopy Died For Our Sins

mainstream is nothing to strive for nowadays..............

kiljoythemerciful

TT8270 wrote:

This really wasn't my intention. Just wanted to raise a critical discussion about the band's situation. Maybe with a startling subject ...And what do I get?

>this is stupid thread
>dumb comment
>this is where you fail with me and your opinion becomes stupid
>This is the dumbest thread ever!!
>TT8270 is an asshole...just take a closer look

>I'm sorry I clicked on this guy's post. He is so dead wrong.
>I went back and looked at some of his earlier posts to see what his deal is....
>He thinks Strangest Tribe is their best song ever, and he thinks No Code is their worst album.
>
>Do you respect those opinions?

People calling me stupid & someone seriously telling that one persons opinions are worse than others...?

Funny thing is I also tried to start a thread where folks could share some extra PJ stuff for free (offered a live CD myself) and what did we get? People mailing how they wanna wait for better stuff...and the thread just disappeared. I mean...c'mon?

I'm sorry if I have offended someone, that wasn't the case...

ps. And EVERYONE ignored the fact that I think they still make decent music and I would like to go see them. And I still think the way I wrote. Basically they make the same record again and again. No progression etc.

The problem is its hard to have a discussion with someone when their positions are so opposite of my own feelings. I'm not trying to insult you, I just can't understand what it is you are trying to say. And if you really expected some polite discussions, you A) clearly aren't familiar with this forum didn't use the proper tact when introducing your stance.

People who are on the fan message board, spending their Saturday and now Sunday reading and talking about their favorite band, are not going to respond politely to someone who basically thinks they stopped being good in 1996. What did you expect?

Ledbetterman10

Snoopy Died For Our Sins wrote:

mainstream is nothing to strive for nowadays..............

Well it seems like something PJ is striving for lately. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But you wouldn't see music videos, rock band games, or songs being played on Sportscenter during the Binarual/Riot Act years.

broloco

Mrs.Vedder78 wrote:

You see, I dont agree with the OP either, but insulting him is definitely not the way to express your opinion on the subject. IMHO

pearl jam outdated: his opinion
TT8270 doo-doo head: my opinion
not the way to express my opinion: your opinion

each one has their opinion? each one is right?

TT8270

broloco wrote:

Mrs.Vedder78 wrote:

You see, I dont agree with the OP either, but insulting him is definitely not the way to express your opinion on the subject. IMHO

pearl jam outdated: his opinion
TT8270 doo-doo head: my opinion
not the way to express my opinion: your opinion

each one has their opinion? each one is right?

You're just plain wrong. You went personal. I did not.

SVRDhand13

OP I understand that Pearl Jam aren't as popular as they were in the 90s but I wouldn't say they are outdated. To me record sales do not mean good or bad, especially considering the artists at the top of the charts today. What I'm wondering is how you can make these assertions and say that you enjoyed your time with the band the best in 94-96 when you said in another thread that you hadn't seen them until 2000. I feel like the thread leads us to believe that you were some hardcore fan that went to their shows yet you didn't even go to one until 4 years after you say their heyday was.

broloco

TT8270 wrote:

broloco wrote:

Mrs.Vedder78 wrote:

You see, I dont agree with the OP either, but insulting him is definitely not the way to express your opinion on the subject. IMHO

pearl jam outdated: his opinion
TT8270 doo-doo head: my opinion
not the way to express my opinion: your opinion

each one has their opinion? each one is right?

You're just plain wrong. You went personal. I did not.

ok, you might be right. or maybe you're wrong. it's a little like comparing pearl jam and rem.

Mrs.Vedder78

broloco wrote:

Mrs.Vedder78 wrote:

You see, I dont agree with the OP either, but insulting him is definitely not the way to express your opinion on the subject. IMHO

pearl jam outdated: his opinion
TT8270 doo-doo head: my opinion
not the way to express my opinion: your opinion

each one has their opinion? each one is right?

we have rules here and I suggest you read them if you dont have them clear:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=91525

Posting Guidelines
1. Be nice. We're very big on RESPECT here. Respect for each other, the band and the Ten Club Community forum environment. Please think of it as if you are as a guest in someone else's home. Please do not put your posting privileges at risk.

2. Discuss, disagree and debate politely. It's possible to disagree with people without being abusive, and it's a requirement here. This includes abusive Private Messages.

I too did not agree with the OP, but you can express your disagreement without resorting to insults, no?

IamMine

Mrs.Vedder78 wrote:

we have rules here and I suggest you read them if you dont have them clear:

http://community.pearljam.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=91525

Posting Guidelines
1. Be nice. We're very big on RESPECT here. Respect for each other, the band and the Ten Club Community forum environment. Please think of it as if you are as a guest in someone else's home. Please do not put your posting privileges at risk.

2. Discuss, disagree and debate politely. It's possible to disagree with people without being abusive, and it's a requirement here. This includes abusive Private Messages.

I too did not agree with the OP, but you can express your disagreement without resorting to insults, no?

I'd kiss and hug you, but people would take that the wrong way and form their own opinions!

Thanks for bringing that up - better you than me because you have earned respect from most people here!

*bows to Mrs.Vedder78*

Kilgore_Trout

LikeAnOcean wrote:

You are a stubborn fool to think these clips don't have potential..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms6xYbthIv8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI7BUaN8wfA

Ill be honest with you... thats my first preview of those 2... and they sound TERRIBLE :(

hopefully thats not the finished mix or theres some redeeming quality not in the clips

looks like backspacer might be as front-loaded as their past 2 albums...

back to the OP's point... in some ways id agree... atleast as far as public perception... but at their best PJ is still capable of writing classic songs... theyre just fewer and further between these days - as i would expect for a band their age

Mrs.Vedder78

Kilgore_Trout wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

You are a stubborn fool to think these clips don't have potential..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms6xYbthIv8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI7BUaN8wfA

Ill be honest with you... thats my first preview of those 2... and they sound TERRIBLE :(

hopefully thats not the finished mix or theres some redeeming quality not in the clips

looks like backspacer might be as front-loaded as their past 2 albums...

back to the OP's point... in some ways id agree... atleast as far as public perception... but at their best PJ is still capable of writing classic songs... theyre just fewer and further between these days - as i would expect for a band their age

so far I like the clips, but most of the longer clips are pieced together from 2 different sources, so its hard to know if that's how the songs go or if there is something in between the ties it together... needless to say these 2 weeks are going to be torture! LOL

Kilgore_Trout

Mrs.Vedder78 wrote:

Kilgore_Trout wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

You are a stubborn fool to think these clips don't have potential..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms6xYbthIv8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI7BUaN8wfA

Ill be honest with you... thats my first preview of those 2... and they sound TERRIBLE :(

hopefully thats not the finished mix or theres some redeeming quality not in the clips

looks like backspacer might be as front-loaded as their past 2 albums...

back to the OP's point... in some ways id agree... atleast as far as public perception... but at their best PJ is still capable of writing classic songs... theyre just fewer and further between these days - as i would expect for a band their age

so far I like the clips, but most of the longer clips are pieced together from 2 different sources, so its hard to know if that's how the songs go or if there is something in between the ties it together... needless to say these 2 weeks are going to be torture! LOL

STAY STRONG

i shit and i stink

I couldn't name you anything REM have done after 'Monster' and most people only got that because of 'Everybody Hurts' and the previous album being so big. Does that make them irrelevant now?

BTW, don't you have to be a 10C member to post here now? If so, have you paid 20 dollars to become a Pearl Jam fan club member to come on here and say they have been irrelevant for over a decade and you won't buy the new stuff? ..... more money than sense?

broloco

Mrs.Vedder78 wrote:

broloco wrote:

Mrs.Vedder78 wrote:

You see, I dont agree with the OP either, but insulting him is definitely not the way to express your opinion on the subject. IMHO

pearl jam outdated: his opinion
TT8270 doo-doo head: my opinion
not the way to express my opinion: your opinion

each one has their opinion? each one is right?

we have rules here and I suggest you read them if you dont have them clear:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=91525

Posting Guidelines
1. Be nice. We're very big on RESPECT here. Respect for each other, the band and the Ten Club Community forum environment. Please think of it as if you are as a guest in someone else's home. Please do not put your posting privileges at risk.

2. Discuss, disagree and debate politely. It's possible to disagree with people without being abusive, and it's a requirement here. This includes abusive Private Messages.

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