Pearl Jam is outdated...just take a closer look

TT8270

In no way is it possible for Pearl Jam to make a new album that would really stand the test of time. They are, and always will be a product of the nineties. I mean look at it seriously: they haven't made a true classic rock song since 90s. If you ask anyone out there on the streets, they won't know anything post Jeremy.

This band has had its heyday and general public has forgotten about Pearl Jam already. That's the fact. They are not The Who of the modern age or any other band. But I won't say they don't make decent songs, yes they do, but everything reflects to their past. They are a band from the past and will always be remembered as a grunge band from the 90s.

I always hoped that they would progress like REM has. I guess the best albums by REM were made after they had been together for over 10 years. That didn't happen with PJ.

BUT I still like the band, I most likely won't by the new album but will go to see them if they play live somewhere near me. And I already had the greatest time with this band when they were at their peak: 1994-1996.

mach271

They been outdated since YIELD....wtf you been?

mkress77

Ok.

Spags

This won't end well.

RideRick

TT8270 wrote:

In no way is it possible for Pearl Jam to make a new album that would really stand the test of time. They are, and always will be a product of the nineties. I mean look at it seriously: they haven't made a true classic rock song since 90s. If you ask anyone out there on the streets, they won't know anything post Jeremy.

This band has had its heyday and general public has forgotten about Pearl Jam already. That's the fact. They are not The Who of the modern age or any other band. But I won't say they don't make decent songs, yes they do, but everything reflects to their past. They are a band from the past and will always be remembered as a grunge band from the 90s.

I always hoped that they would progress like REM has. I guess the best albums by REM were made after they had been together for over 10 years. That didn't happen with PJ.

BUT I still like the band, I most likely won't by the new album but will go to see them if they play live somewhere near me. And I already had the greatest time with this band when they were at their peak: 1994-1996.

you sound a lot like Metallica fans after the Black Album was released....

Hawk123

This is a stupid thread. PJ was one of the hardest tickets to get in Toronto this summer so to say the general public wouldn't know anything post Jeremy is crazy. They are one of the few bands of our generation that has stood the test of time and will be enjoyed by music fans for years to come as they continue to put out great albums. Very few bands have the consistency of PJ.

morgie2

?? They've already stood the test of time. Based on the radio play, I bet most people would know the Fixer, or Got Some from the Tonight Show. How much more "relevant" do you want them? They were in my "rear view mirror" until "Avocado" came out. I think there are arguably 5 classics on that one, written in 2006.

Hawk123

Also, it takes time for a song to be considered a "classic rock song" so to say they haven't made any since the 90s is just a dumb comment.

LikeAnOcean

See, this is where you fail with me and your opinion becomes stupid.. 94 to 96'

Vitalogy and No Code are the albums I listen to the least.


Who cares what popular music is liking. Led Zeppelin never had a number one hit. Most classic rock bands weren't appreciated by the general public until years later.

I like the new music, and thats all that matters.


Besides.. Force of Nature and Amongst the Waves will be instant classics.

You are a stubborn fool to think these clips don't have potential..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms6xYbthIv8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI7BUaN8wfA

eladder

i find it sad that someone actually tool the time to post a thread like this on the pearljam website which is basically a fan club website. have you nothing better to do w your time? do you feel proud that you can provoke responses on this site by putting down the band? bravo!!! and maybe you should come see how irrelevant and outdated they are in philly for the 4 sold out shows in october. your calendar is obviously open.

Snoopy Died For Our Sins

UncleSpaggles wrote:

This won't end well.

This won't end period.......another Thanks Alot Ten Club Thread where it'll stay on the front page for a week with people ripping the OP

Snoopy Died For Our Sins

oh yeah,



REM SUCKS!!!

norm

do people really think like this? :roll:

Snoopy Died For Our Sins

norm wrote:

do people really think like this? :roll:

He just responded to his own OP on the DVD trades thread he started, this is gonna be fun!!!!

And the mods just LOCKED it! That was FAST!!!

mydogmookieblaylock

Pearl Jam is outdated ..... NOT!!!

SM169849

This is the dumbest thread ever!! It is funny how in a lot of cities they play back to back nights to sold out crowds, yet nobody on the street has heard of them?????????? PEARL JAM ROCK!!!!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:

IamMine

Snoopy Died For Our Sins wrote:

UncleSpaggles wrote:

This won't end well.

This won't end period.......another Thanks Alot Ten Club Thread where it'll stay on the front page for a week with people ripping the OP

Ah, one of my favorite types of threads here!

That's another thing I do agree with you!

Snoopy Died For Our Sins wrote:

oh yeah,



REM SUCKS!!!

It was nice agreeing with you for a while there.... too bad!

Who cares if someone thinks PJ is outdated.... I wear outdated clothes and shoes I've wore for at least 5 years...we fit just perfectly!

That's just an opinion and he's entitled to it.... :P

Pearl Jam at Dogwood Campgrounds

haha

hollow bottle

Really? 94-96 were the best years. That is bullshit. Wow! I'm not here to sell Pearl Jam to anybody. They are the most relevant band today IMO.

justam

TT8270 wrote:

In no way is it possible for Pearl Jam to make a new album that would really stand the test of time. They are, and always will be a product of the nineties. I mean look at it seriously: they haven't made a true classic rock song since 90s. If you ask anyone out there on the streets, they won't know anything post Jeremy.

This band has had its heyday and general public has forgotten about Pearl Jam already. That's the fact. They are not The Who of the modern age or any other band. But I won't say they don't make decent songs, yes they do, but everything reflects to their past. They are a band from the past and will always be remembered as a grunge band from the 90s.

I always hoped that they would progress like REM has. I guess the best albums by REM were made after they had been together for over 10 years. That didn't happen with PJ.

BUT I still like the band, I most likely won't by the new album but will go to see them if they play live somewhere near me. And I already had the greatest time with this band when they were at their peak: 1994-1996.

This is certainly your opinion, but it isn't based upon anything other than your own individual assessment of their music. I think you're claiming more than you can with this. You don't KNOW how their music will stand in the future, you have ideas and you're trying to sell them to anyone who will read this.

I've read this but I don't believe your ideas and I don't believe your ideas will stand the test of time. I think they were dated as soon as you typed 'em up.

But, that's just my opinion.

elderman

I have seen Pearl Jam live in four countries THIS decade, all four were sold out in minutes. What does that say. :!:

corduroykelly

I couldn't disagree more I like pearl jam now more than ever they keep getting better, and have you been pissed since the 90's why are you here go away put your flannel on and scream for evenflow the next time they come to your town.

megatron

LikeAnOcean wrote:

See, this is where you fail with me and your opinion becomes stupid.. 94 to 96'

Vitalogy and No Code are the albums I listen to the least.


Who cares what popular music is liking. Led Zeppelin never had a number one hit. Most classic rock bands weren't appreciated by the general public until years later.

I like the new music, and thats all that matters.


Besides.. Force of Nature and Amongst the Waves will be instant classics.

You are a stubborn fool to think these clips don't have potential..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms6xYbthIv8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI7BUaN8wfA

holy shit force of nature sounds like a 1988 WWF wrestler ring entrance music!!

theoceansmademe

TT8270 wrote:

In no way is it possible for Pearl Jam to make a new album that would really stand the test of time. They are, and always will be a product of the nineties. I mean look at it seriously: they haven't made a true classic rock song since 90s. If you ask anyone out there on the streets, they won't know anything post Jeremy.

This band has had its heyday and general public has forgotten about Pearl Jam already. That's the fact. They are not The Who of the modern age or any other band. But I won't say they don't make decent songs, yes they do, but everything reflects to their past. They are a band from the past and will always be remembered as a grunge band from the 90s.

I always hoped that they would progress like REM has. I guess the best albums by REM were made after they had been together for over 10 years. That didn't happen with PJ.

BUT I still like the band, I most likely won't by the new album but will go to see them if they play live somewhere near me. And I already had the greatest time with this band when they were at their peak: 1994-1996.

Anything post Jeremy, let's see:

Daughter
Better Man
DTE

Pearl Jam isn't about the man on the street.

Like TV shows musical taste changes when the media wants it to change.

Us in the PJ community are happy they haven't been the success like U2 (REM is a horrible example).

They are a great live band, with a clear message, and a band that loves it's fans because the fans love them.

So take Ten and play it over and over then head off to a Journey show. Us real fans will soak up the beauty that is pearl jam.

theoceansmademe

Oh I forgot to add, Mr. O'Brien is producing his 1st PJ record since Yield.

Great things are coming.

joewalshdc

TT8270 wrote:

In no way is it possible for Pearl Jam to make a new album that would really stand the test of time. They are, and always will be a product of the nineties. I mean look at it seriously: they haven't made a true classic rock song since 90s. If you ask anyone out there on the streets, they won't know anything post Jeremy.

This band has had its heyday and general public has forgotten about Pearl Jam already. That's the fact. They are not The Who of the modern age or any other band. But I won't say they don't make decent songs, yes they do, but everything reflects to their past. They are a band from the past and will always be remembered as a grunge band from the 90s.

I always hoped that they would progress like REM has. I guess the best albums by REM were made after they had been together for over 10 years. That didn't happen with PJ.

BUT I still like the band, I most likely won't by the new album but will go to see them if they play live somewhere near me. And I already had the greatest time with this band when they were at their peak: 1994-1996.

Why oh why did i even read this tripe....

its_ok

I think the guy has a point, not that theyre outdatet, but I wonder how many new fans they get. Aren't the people attending shows mostly old fans? And how many 15 year olds will go buy the new record in the way the probably would have in the 90s?

But that post Jeremy bs was just stupid...Ten is their least interesting record nowadays and theyve done so so much great music after Ten, and also after the 90s!!

But it in the end, it doesnt really matter if theyre outdatet or not, the still kick ass and have such a positive affect on my life!!

Mrs.Vedder78

LikeAnOcean wrote:

You are a stubborn fool to think these clips don't have potential..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms6xYbthIv8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI7BUaN8wfA

thanks for posting these, I had only heard 20 second clips of Just Breathe and Amongst the Waves... God! I can't for this album!

Back_Pedal

Well, they really aren't too relevant with the younger crowd anymore. In the past 4 years of High School, not one person has known who they are, or if they didn't, only knew Even Flow. They're a great band, but they won't be changing the music scene ever again.

MayDay10

Maybe in the sense of studio work, they cant crack the music buying masses.

However, look at the crap that does.

Its tough to make a good rock hit on the same lines of Smells Like Teen Spirit, Jeremy, Alive, Man In the Box these days. Rock stations are going out of business, I couldnt even tell you where to find music videos on TV, and young people in large numbers arent into good music where you actually play instruments and can sing live. Its a far different industry with downloads, portable music, etc. the early 90's might as well be ancient history.

Pearl Jam is being redefined as a live act. I believe they are making a lot of new loyal fans through their live act. New fans attend a PJ show because they miss good music and maybe they can hear some of the 90's hits. They walk away impressed and discovering that there have been albums after the 2 V's and they have a ton of Gems. The easy access to live bootlegs enhance the whole experience... PJ moves on with new fans created after every show.

I cant think of any way Pearl Jam can create a hit along the same lines of Jeremy and Alive. If its the most awesome sounding, most perfect track ever, I still believe its impossible in the current music industry conditions.

Backspacer_Backer

the OP is exactly right. PJ isn't the modern era The Who. They are to the 90's what Whitesnake and Poison were to the 80's. Ask anybody born after 1985 or so, they probably don't even know PJ as well as they know poison. If only Ed would get a reality show like Bret Michaels.