the OP is exactly right. PJ isn't the modern era The Who. They are to the 90's what Whitesnake and Poison were to the 80's. Ask anybody born after 1985 or so, they probably don't even know PJ as well as they know poison. If only Ed would get a reality show like Bret Michaels.
I would say Pearl Jam is just a TAD ahead of Whitesnake and Poison on the count that they still tour and release albums.
Nah, posters right. Nobody knows who Pearl Jam is anymore.. even though they've been practically playing the whole new album during sports clips on ESPN all evening.
Nah, posters right. Nobody knows who Pearl Jam is anymore.. even though they've been practically playing the whole new album during sports clips on ESPN all evening.
good point!
"Without the album covers, where do you clean your pot?" - EV
I believe it takes "time" for an album to stand to the test of time. Ten has been the only one so far, we dont know how well the other albums will stand in the next few years coming.
In no way is it possible for Pearl Jam to make a new album that would really stand the test of time. They are, and always will be a product of the nineties. I mean look at it seriously: they haven't made a true classic rock song since 90s. If you ask anyone out there on the streets, they won't know anything post Jeremy.
This band has had its heyday and general public has forgotten about Pearl Jam already. That's the fact. They are not The Who of the modern age or any other band. But I won't say they don't make decent songs, yes they do, but everything reflects to their past. They are a band from the past and will always be remembered as a grunge band from the 90s.
I always hoped that they would progress like REM has. I guess the best albums by REM were made after they had been together for over 10 years. That didn't happen with PJ.
BUT I still like the band, I most likely won't by the new album but will go to see them if they play live somewhere near me. And I already had the greatest time with this band when they were at their peak: 1994-1996.
Very wrong or you have a twisted sense of humor. Then again, I always enjoy these threads, thanks for the fun.
why are you people giving into this guy for. all he wanted was a reaction outta the board and you all were stupid to fall for it. I'm shocked this isn't 10 pages like all the other attention whore threads.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Last Kiss the band's first and only single to hit #1? I believe that was released post 90's grunge era. I could go on with other examples of how PJ is the greatest living band in music today like how their concerts are incredible, sold out in minutes, and how they're one of the biggest touring bands alive at the moment but I won't bore the OP who obviously is just trolling and trying to incite some drama here.
“May you live to be 100 and may the last voice you hear be mine.” - Frank Sinatra
In no way is it possible for Pearl Jam to make a new album that would really stand the test of time. They are, and always will be a product of the nineties. I mean look at it seriously: they haven't made a true classic rock song since 90s. If you ask anyone out there on the streets, they won't know anything post Jeremy.
This band has had its heyday and general public has forgotten about Pearl Jam already. That's the fact. They are not The Who of the modern age or any other band. But I won't say they don't make decent songs, yes they do, but everything reflects to their past. They are a band from the past and will always be remembered as a grunge band from the 90s.
I always hoped that they would progress like REM has. I guess the best albums by REM were made after they had been together for over 10 years. That didn't happen with PJ.
BUT I still like the band, I most likely won't by the new album but will go to see them if they play live somewhere near me. And I already had the greatest time with this band when they were at their peak: 1994-1996.
Indeed. The general public does not know many songs. I think the general public more or less understands that Pearl Jam is a live concert attraction.
By the way, this is all good, isn't it? Pearl Jam flies below the radar. Why do we want our band to compete for attention with pop stars, or commercially driven bands, or god forbid hip-hop? Pearl Jam is outside that realm, its on the fringe of Pop culture, it doesn't have to compete with that crap. PJ is its own entity and scene. The Greatful Dead did this for 30 years and sold out every concert, and I think they were a bit more outdated than our beloved band.
So, is there something wrong with this? Obviously, we as fans think of PJ as being relevant to today, and I believe the rock press does as well. This is not a band that basks in the spotlight, nor do we want it to be . . .
P.S. If the media gave more attention to PJ, would it make you feel better? and P.P.S. After the 1st ten years, REM sucked.
1996: Hartford; 1998: Hartford, Mansfield I & II
2000: Saratoga, Mansfield I & II; 2003: West Palm, Tampa, Mansfield I & II & III; 2004: Boston I & II; 2005: Montreal; 2006: Albany, Hartford, Boston I & II, East Rutherford; 2007: Lolla
2008: Tampa, MSG I & II, Hartford, Mansfield I & II; 2009: Chicago I & II, Philly I, III & IV; 2010: Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford, Boston & MSG II.
Really? 94-96 were the best years. That is bullshit. Wow! I'm not here to sell Pearl Jam to anybody. They are the most relevant band today IMO.
I might be wrong, and please correct me if I am, but weren't 1994-1996 trying times for Pearl Jam? You had the suicide of Cobain, the fight with Ticketmaster, they almost breaking up, Ed getting sick and having Neil Young take over in June 1995 up at Golden Gate Park, the whole canceling of the 1995 tour because of Ticketmaster, etc. Even though I stuck by the band, I was happy they got over that hump. So, for that reason(s), 94-96 weren't their best years. I think these last few years have been their best years. Backspacer will prove that.
has anyone suggested that perhaps the OP is outdated?
I was with the band since the first time I heard Jeremy on the radio, and I still think their music is amazing. They are the only band I give a crap about live - I have tons of bootlegs and live albums and never get tired of them.
Well I think the thing is though that everybody knows who Pearl Jam is though. They are like Metallica and U2 in that the public know their sound in a conscious way if not their new songs.
As for new fans I was at my first festival with Pearl Jam a few weeks ago and while I will admit there was many older fans, I also saw many young teenage fans wearing T-Shirts and singing songs. I think they are the heir apparent in the rock scene without a doubt.
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Vitalogy and No Code are the albums I listen to the least.
To the person who said above:
You're missing a lot then.
To OP of this thread:
I don't want people on the street to know my favorite band. They are making it harder and harder for me to get tickets.
oh, and uhm...we all know you've started this thread just to get a raise out of fanbois.
I have no patience for bad music and stupid people...
The whole world will be different soon the whole world will be RELIEVED
Sorry for keeping this thread alive, but not having ESPN (or the other sports shows) here in the UK I was wondering what other bands tend to get played?
Also, have PJ ever covered anything current at their shows, I think the only thing that comes close to my admittedly limited knowledge is the recording of an 80s tune on a Strokes b-side?
Would people freak out if they were to collaborate with a Hip Hop artist (Rap/R&B being what the kids are into last time I looked)? There was that Cypress Hill track way back...
Down the street you can hear her scream youre a disgrace
As she slams the door in his drunken face
And now he stands outside
And all the neighbours start to gossip and drool
He cries oh, girl you must be mad,
What happened to the sweet love you and me had?
Against the door he leans and starts a scene,
And his tears fall and burn the garden green
What?!
They are a 90's band?
I never knew this....or is somebody pulling my leg?
I always thought Binaural was their debut album? :?
Are you kidding??
Toronto - 2009
Hartford - 2010
Ed Solo - Hartford - 2011
Toronto X 2, Ottawa & Hamilton - 2011
Ed Solo - Jacksonville - 2012
London, Pittsburgh & Buffalo - 2013
No shows in 2014 :-(
Well done. Don't you just love the passion of true Pearl Jam fans. What's this Thread makers cup of tea? Britney?
Of course we're going to comment, It gets our back up when people talk absolute rubbish. If Pearl Jam have been of no good since the early 90's then WTF is taking up all the space in my LIMITED music collection.
21,500. people got tix to Perth in the 2 weeks AFTER Presale. Most of them are people off the street.
How do I know this? Because this thread hasn't been locked because of death threats.
Vitalogy and No Code are the albums I listen to the least.
To the person who said above:
You're missing a lot then.
To OP of this thread:
I don't want people on the street to know my favorite band. They are making it harder and harder for me to get tickets.
oh, and uhm...we all know you've started this thread just to get a raise out of fanbois.
Missing a lot?
I played those albums a million times back when they were released. I didn't miss anything. They just don't hold as well with me, although they do have a few of my favorite songs. To be honest with you, I haven't listened to anything before Avocado in years.. besides the Ten rerelease. I usually listen to the new album to death, the current boots for a few years and then move on. Looking back '94 to '96 is probably my least favorite period.
Before you say I'm missing a lot, I'm willing to wager I've listened to Vitalogy and No Code more than you. I stood in line to get Vitalogy on release day.. well I actually couldn't call off for high school, so I had my mom do it. Same with No Code. lol :P
And "Like an Ocean".....I found NO Code to be hard listening. They went all "Hallow Art Thou" with that one,
I thought. :? But....Now I'm putting it on more often than not. I guess I should be saying this on that
"PJ are OLD HAT thread" I love NO Code.
Vitalogy and No Code are the albums I listen to the least.
To the person who said above:
You're missing a lot then.
To OP of this thread:
I don't want people on the street to know my favorite band. They are making it harder and harder for me to get tickets.
oh, and uhm...we all know you've started this thread just to get a raise out of fanbois.
Missing a lot?
I played those albums a million times back when they were released. I didn't miss anything. They just don't hold as well with me, although they do have a few of my favorite songs. To be honest with you, I haven't listened to anything before Avocado in years.. besides the Ten rerelease. I usually listen to the new album to death, the current boots for a few years and then move on. Looking back '94 to '96 is probably my least favorite period.
Before you say I'm missing a lot, I'm willing to wager I've listened to Vitalogy and No Code more than you. How long have you been a fan? I stood in line to get Vitalogy on release day.. well I actually couldn't call off for high school, so I had my mom do it. lol :P
I believe you are huge fan, like everyone who post here.
However, I do believe you are missing something by passing up No Code and Vitalogy.
I was recently at a party with another PJ head and I expressed my displeasure with hearing Corduroy live. He told me to give the album another try for it was his favorite.
I did and now listen to it regularly and love Corduroy. Not for You, Tremor Christ, Satan' Bed, Immortality all gems.
No Code is border line my favorite album. The drums are what really bring this one alive for.
I believe you are huge fan, like everyone who post here.
However, I do believe you are missing something by passing up No Code and Vitalogy.
I was recently at a party with another PJ head and I expressed my displeasure with hearing Corduroy live. He told me to give the album another try for it was his favorite.
I did and now listen to it regularly and love Corduroy. Not for You, Tremor Christ, Satan' Bed, Immortality all gems.
No Code is border line my favorite album. The drums are what really bring this one alive for.
Thanks for reading and keep rocking.
But I never passed them up. At one point, No Code was my favorite album. In My Tree is still my favorite song. I never missed anything. I'm just saying that with my state of mind now, I prefer the newer stuff.
Drums definitly. Driving flatout outback with that up full bore is second to none.
It was actually Yield that I thought was a bit "Hollier than thou", not 'No Code'. It was YIELD that I had to force myself to listen to. I waited and waited and when it finaly came out.......I thought they had gone on the biggest "Find myself, Spriritual guided, "I'm going to do a Cat Stevens" and forget I'm HUMAN, type trip." but hey, it grew on me.
Thank Pearl Jam for that.
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You see, I dont agree with the OP either, but insulting him is definitely not the way to express your opinion on the subject. IMHO
I would say Pearl Jam is just a TAD ahead of Whitesnake and Poison on the count that they still tour and release albums.
8/7/08, 6/9/09
good point!
Its an unfair assumption if you ask me.
Very wrong or you have a twisted sense of humor. Then again, I always enjoy these threads, thanks for the fun.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
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Seattle Key Arena 9-22-2009
Indeed. The general public does not know many songs. I think the general public more or less understands that Pearl Jam is a live concert attraction.
By the way, this is all good, isn't it? Pearl Jam flies below the radar. Why do we want our band to compete for attention with pop stars, or commercially driven bands, or god forbid hip-hop? Pearl Jam is outside that realm, its on the fringe of Pop culture, it doesn't have to compete with that crap. PJ is its own entity and scene. The Greatful Dead did this for 30 years and sold out every concert, and I think they were a bit more outdated than our beloved band.
So, is there something wrong with this? Obviously, we as fans think of PJ as being relevant to today, and I believe the rock press does as well. This is not a band that basks in the spotlight, nor do we want it to be . . .
P.S. If the media gave more attention to PJ, would it make you feel better? and P.P.S. After the 1st ten years, REM sucked.
2000: Saratoga, Mansfield I & II; 2003: West Palm, Tampa, Mansfield I & II & III; 2004: Boston I & II; 2005: Montreal; 2006: Albany, Hartford, Boston I & II, East Rutherford; 2007: Lolla
2008: Tampa, MSG I & II, Hartford, Mansfield I & II; 2009: Chicago I & II, Philly I, III & IV; 2010: Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford, Boston & MSG II.
I might be wrong, and please correct me if I am, but weren't 1994-1996 trying times for Pearl Jam? You had the suicide of Cobain, the fight with Ticketmaster, they almost breaking up, Ed getting sick and having Neil Young take over in June 1995 up at Golden Gate Park, the whole canceling of the 1995 tour because of Ticketmaster, etc. Even though I stuck by the band, I was happy they got over that hump. So, for that reason(s), 94-96 weren't their best years. I think these last few years have been their best years. Backspacer will prove that.
I was with the band since the first time I heard Jeremy on the radio, and I still think their music is amazing. They are the only band I give a crap about live - I have tons of bootlegs and live albums and never get tired of them.
As for new fans I was at my first festival with Pearl Jam a few weeks ago and while I will admit there was many older fans, I also saw many young teenage fans wearing T-Shirts and singing songs. I think they are the heir apparent in the rock scene without a doubt.
EV Arlene Schnitzer Hall - July 14 2011, EV Benaroya Hall - July 16 2011
To the person who said above:
You're missing a lot then.
To OP of this thread:
I don't want people on the street to know my favorite band. They are making it harder and harder for me to get tickets.
oh, and uhm...we all know you've started this thread just to get a raise out of fanbois.
The whole world will be different soon the whole world will be RELIEVED
#resistgezi #resistturkey #resisttaksim #direnturkiye #direngezi
#standingman #duranadam
Not even close. Not by a mile.
Also, have PJ ever covered anything current at their shows, I think the only thing that comes close to my admittedly limited knowledge is the recording of an 80s tune on a Strokes b-side?
Would people freak out if they were to collaborate with a Hip Hop artist (Rap/R&B being what the kids are into last time I looked)? There was that Cypress Hill track way back...
They are a 90's band?
I never knew this....or is somebody pulling my leg?
I always thought Binaural was their debut album? :?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQB2-Kmiic
As she slams the door in his drunken face
And now he stands outside
And all the neighbours start to gossip and drool
He cries oh, girl you must be mad,
What happened to the sweet love you and me had?
Against the door he leans and starts a scene,
And his tears fall and burn the garden green
Are you kidding??
Hartford - 2010
Ed Solo - Hartford - 2011
Toronto X 2, Ottawa & Hamilton - 2011
Ed Solo - Jacksonville - 2012
London, Pittsburgh & Buffalo - 2013
No shows in 2014 :-(
Of course we're going to comment, It gets our back up when people talk absolute rubbish. If Pearl Jam have been of no good since the early 90's then WTF is taking up all the space in my LIMITED music collection.
21,500. people got tix to Perth in the 2 weeks AFTER Presale. Most of them are people off the street.
How do I know this? Because this thread hasn't been locked because of death threats.
No.
I always thought Jeremy and Alive were on Riot Act :? :oops:
Missing a lot?
I played those albums a million times back when they were released. I didn't miss anything. They just don't hold as well with me, although they do have a few of my favorite songs. To be honest with you, I haven't listened to anything before Avocado in years.. besides the Ten rerelease. I usually listen to the new album to death, the current boots for a few years and then move on. Looking back '94 to '96 is probably my least favorite period.
Before you say I'm missing a lot, I'm willing to wager I've listened to Vitalogy and No Code more than you. I stood in line to get Vitalogy on release day.. well I actually couldn't call off for high school, so I had my mom do it. Same with No Code. lol :P
No way. You must be pulling our leg.
I thought. :? But....Now I'm putting it on more often than not. I guess I should be saying this on that
"PJ are OLD HAT thread" I love NO Code.
I believe you are huge fan, like everyone who post here.
However, I do believe you are missing something by passing up No Code and Vitalogy.
I was recently at a party with another PJ head and I expressed my displeasure with hearing Corduroy live. He told me to give the album another try for it was his favorite.
I did and now listen to it regularly and love Corduroy. Not for You, Tremor Christ, Satan' Bed, Immortality all gems.
No Code is border line my favorite album. The drums are what really bring this one alive for.
Thanks for reading and keep rocking.
It was actually Yield that I thought was a bit "Hollier than thou", not 'No Code'. It was YIELD that I had to force myself to listen to. I waited and waited and when it finaly came out.......I thought they had gone on the biggest "Find myself, Spriritual guided, "I'm going to do a Cat Stevens" and forget I'm HUMAN, type trip." but hey, it grew on me.
Thank Pearl Jam for that.