rightly so :oops: I think some people tend to forget that advice from the outside is often the best. E.g if you're looking for some petty teenage relationship advice, it's quite often that someone who's never been in your stupid situation will be the one who can give you the most practical advice. But if you're gonna be all defensive, well you won't learn anything. Sometimes when you're on the outside, the solution is soooo simple.
me: helen i just dont know what to do with little johnny anymore.. its gotten where i cant even take him to tesco's
helen: why cate whats the problem??
me: he just continually cries and chucks a tanty whenever we bypass the confectionary aisle.
helen: well cate have you slapped the little bastard?? maybe thatll teach him how to behave in the supermarket.
me: ive always been of the opinion that violence begets violence. i really dont want to hit my child.
helen: no no hell be fine.. hell grow up with respect for you that you taught him how to stay in line through violence. and when hes a parent hell know how to handle the same situation.
me: wow jeez thanks helen i hadnt thought of hitting my child before. youre a lifesaver.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
rightly so :oops: I think some people tend to forget that advice from the outside is often the best. E.g if you're looking for some petty teenage relationship advice, it's quite often that someone who's never been in your stupid situation will be the one who can give you the most practical advice. But if you're gonna be all defensive, well you won't learn anything. Sometimes when you're on the outside, the solution is soooo simple.
me: helen i just dont know what to do with little johnny anymore.. its gotten where i cant even take him to tesco's
helen: why cate whats the problem??
me: he just continually cries and chucks a tanty whenever we bypass the confectionary aisle.
helen: well cate have you slapped the little bastard?? maybe thatll teach him how to behave in the supermarket.
me: ive always been of the opinion that violence begets violence. i really dont want to hit my child.
helen: no no hell be fine.. hell grow up with respect for you that you taught him how to stay in line through violence. and when hes a parent hell know how to handle the same situation.
me: wow jeez thanks helen i hadnt thought of hitting my child before. youre a lifesaver.
at no point in this scenario did you punch her in the fudd™ though? why is this?
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
rightly so :oops: I think some people tend to forget that advice from the outside is often the best. E.g if you're looking for some petty teenage relationship advice, it's quite often that someone who's never been in your stupid situation will be the one who can give you the most practical advice. But if you're gonna be all defensive, well you won't learn anything. Sometimes when you're on the outside, the solution is soooo simple.
me: helen i just dont know what to do with little johnny anymore.. its gotten where i cant even take him to tesco's
helen: why cate whats the problem??
me: he just continually cries and chucks a tanty whenever we bypass the confectionary aisle.
helen: well cate have you slapped the little bastard?? maybe thatll teach him how to behave in the supermarket.
me: ive always been of the opinion that violence begets violence. i really dont want to hit my child.
helen: no no hell be fine.. hell grow up with respect for you that you taught him how to stay in line through violence. and when hes a parent hell know how to handle the same situation.
me: wow jeez thanks helen i hadnt thought of hitting my child before. youre a lifesaver.
I think help from the outside can be very useful.
cate: I just dont know what to do with little johnny anymore.. its gotten where i cant even take him to tesco's
me: why cate whats the problem??
cate: he just continually cries and chucks a tanty whenever we bypass the confectionary aisle.
me: well tell him you'll buy him some if he agrees to eat everything you buy. Then you buy him 3 huge family bars and watch him chuck the lot.
cate: but he'll leave a horrific mess
me: take a sick bag cate, take a sick bag.
cate: wow jeez thanks, I never knew that projectile vomiting would be the cure.
rightly so :oops: I think some people tend to forget that advice from the outside is often the best. E.g if you're looking for some petty teenage relationship advice, it's quite often that someone who's never been in your stupid situation will be the one who can give you the most practical advice. But if you're gonna be all defensive, well you won't learn anything. Sometimes when you're on the outside, the solution is soooo simple.
me: helen i just dont know what to do with little johnny anymore.. its gotten where i cant even take him to tesco's
helen: why cate whats the problem??
me: he just continually cries and chucks a tanty whenever we bypass the confectionary aisle.
helen: well cate have you slapped the little bastard?? maybe thatll teach him how to behave in the supermarket.
me: ive always been of the opinion that violence begets violence. i really dont want to hit my child.
helen: no no hell be fine.. hell grow up with respect for you that you taught him how to stay in line through violence. and when hes a parent hell know how to handle the same situation.
me: wow jeez thanks helen i hadnt thought of hitting my child before. youre a lifesaver.
I think help from the outside can be very useful.
cate: I just dont know what to do with little johnny anymore.. its gotten where i cant even take him to tesco's
me: why cate whats the problem??
cate: he just continually cries and chucks a tanty whenever we bypass the confectionary aisle.
me: well tell him you'll buy him some if he agrees to eat everything you buy. Then you buy him 3 huge family bars and watch him chuck the lot.
cate: but he'll leave a horrific mess
me: take a sick bag cate, take a sick bag.
cate: wow jeez thanks, I never knew that projectile vomiting would be the cure.
me: no problem cate, glad to be of service
thats torture you know.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
rightly so :oops: I think some people tend to forget that advice from the outside is often the best. E.g if you're looking for some petty teenage relationship advice, it's quite often that someone who's never been in your stupid situation will be the one who can give you the most practical advice. But if you're gonna be all defensive, well you won't learn anything. Sometimes when you're on the outside, the solution is soooo simple.
me: helen i just dont know what to do with little johnny anymore.. its gotten where i cant even take him to tesco's
helen: why cate whats the problem??
me: he just continually cries and chucks a tanty whenever we bypass the confectionary aisle.
helen: well cate have you slapped the little bastard?? maybe thatll teach him how to behave in the supermarket.
me: ive always been of the opinion that violence begets violence. i really dont want to hit my child.
helen: no no hell be fine.. hell grow up with respect for you that you taught him how to stay in line through violence. and when hes a parent hell know how to handle the same situation.
me: wow jeez thanks helen i hadnt thought of hitting my child before. youre a lifesaver.
at no point in this scenario did you punch her in the fudd™ though? why is this?
i think you know why dunk.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I find it interesting that most of the people defending or advocating spankings/smacking a kid, are likely to have been disciplined that way themselves....like they're defending their parents or their upbringing. I don't think a swat on the butt is some form of horrific child abuse...I've done it myself...but the few times I have, it's been a last resort; done when I was out of options and patience....which in itself tells me that it cannot be the best way to handle the situation. If it's done impulsively and out of frustration, it's not a well conceived way of dealing.... right?
'smack on the mouth'????? :? :( wtf.....seriously? who smacks a kid in the MOUTH?
'she keeps back-talkin like that and I'ma gonna make that mouth a lil less purdy'
I find it interesting that most of the people defending or advocating spankings/smacking a kid, are likely to have been disciplined that way themselves....like they're defending their parents or their upbringing. I don't think a swat on the butt is some form of horrific child abuse...I've done it myself...but the few times I have, it's been a last resort; done when I was out of options and patience....which in itself tells me that it cannot be the best way to handle the situation. If it's done impulsively and out of frustration, it's not a well conceived way of dealing.... right?
'smack on the mouth'????? :? :( wtf.....seriously? who smacks a kid in the MOUTH?
'she keeps back-talkin like that and I'ma gonna make that mouth a lil less purdy'
I'm very proud to say that my siblings who have kids do not hit their kids even though we were. It wasn't a rare occasion, either. They are breaking the cycle! Yippee! When I see my siblings with their kids, and notice how their kids are not in any way shape or form scared of them or have negative relationships with them it's an incredible sight
There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
Are people missing the point that this kid was NOT HIS KID!!!
No, I don't think so. It just looks like some are talking about stranger assault, and some are talking about child abuse.
There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
Children younger than 18 months do not have the cognitive ability to process information, code it, and use it later in decision making situations. For example, explaining to a 13-month-old why she is being punished for hitting her sibling isn't going to get you very far if she can't yet understand reasoning. That is why discipline for children under 18 months usually involves only positive reinforcement and redirection.
Furthermore, studies have shown that very few children respond well to spankings as disciplinary measures. While the spankings may stop the behavior for the moment, in the long term it does not help the child to learn right from wrong. http://www.come-over.to/FAS/spanking.htm
Children younger than 18 months do not have the cognitive ability to process information, code it, and use it later in decision making situations. For example, explaining to a 13-month-old why she is being punished for hitting her sibling isn't going to get you very far if she can't yet understand reasoning. That is why discipline for children under 18 months usually involves only positive reinforcement and redirection.
Furthermore, studies have shown that very few children respond well to spankings as disciplinary measures. While the spankings may stop the behavior for the moment, in the long term it does not help the child to learn right from wrong. http://www.come-over.to/FAS/spanking.htm
this thread is like funny... non-parents telling us how we should treat and deal with our own kids...
its like getting advice from Michael J Fox at the best way to win Musical Statues
Yeah!! Can you imagine if your kid was just having one of those days, (this was a toddler), and some stranger slapped it repeatedly?? Oh man!! I just can't imagine.
One time my 5 year old son and I went to the movie show. An old lady in back of us placed her feet inside the crevice of my son's seat; where the top and bottom meet, but in the back of his seat, so he gets up and then sits right back down and pinched her toes. I heard her yell out, turned and realized what happned and apologized, even though it was not my kid's fault. She ignored me and put her hand up like she was gonna back hand him and said, "I oughta slap you, sonny". I felt my blood boil. My ex was there too and I saw him get pissed. I waved to him to just ignore her and calm down, but then she proceeded to bitch to her husband thru the whole movie about how her toes hurt!!! The movie was some older version of Superman, or something like that, it may have been Star Wars.
It took a lot for my ex and I to just sit there and try to ignore her. I had taken my son out at some point and let him know he was not at fault. Why she had her feet in the crevice of a seat that automatically folds when someone gets up is beyond me. When my son got up and this happened, the show hadn't started and he was getting up to go with his dad to get treats, I said he couldn't go right then, and he sat back down, pinching her toes which shouldn't had been on my kid's seat anyway. To threaten to slap him and me stay quiet was very hard!! My blood boiled.
Children younger than 18 months do not have the cognitive ability to process information, code it, and use it later in decision making situations. For example, explaining to a 13-month-old why she is being punished for hitting her sibling isn't going to get you very far if she can't yet understand reasoning. That is why discipline for children under 18 months usually involves only positive reinforcement and redirection.
Furthermore, studies have shown that very few children respond well to spankings as disciplinary measures. While the spankings may stop the behavior for the moment, in the long term it does not help the child to learn right from wrong. http://www.come-over.to/FAS/spanking.htm
Children younger than 18 months do not have the cognitive ability to process information, code it, and use it later in decision making situations. For example, explaining to a 13-month-old why she is being punished for hitting her sibling isn't going to get you very far if she can't yet understand reasoning. That is why discipline for children under 18 months usually involves only positive reinforcement and redirection.
Furthermore, studies have shown that very few children respond well to spankings as disciplinary measures. While the spankings may stop the behavior for the moment, in the long term it does not help the child to learn right from wrong. http://www.come-over.to/FAS/spanking.htm
OK, who in their right mind spanks an 18 month old???
Prime ass whooping age for me was age 5 to 10.. I knew damn well why I was getting my ass whopped. I even laughed a few times in the process. lol.
Yeah, and this child was 2. I can't belive this even got to a debate stage. Redardless of how old the kid is, its assault, I can think of many times I would love to smack an adult. Its assault.
im a parent and all you need to do is get the kids attention, if words arent doing it a smack on the mouth wont do any harm, gets the eye contact you are after. there have been many times where i wanna treat others kids like mine, but i know i cant do that. and for the stranger to feel it is their place to step in is pretty hypocritical, like saying, dont bother me when no one was even paying attention to you.
You smack your children in the mouth. You should be sitting in the cell right next to that ass that hit that little girl. I feel sorry for your children.
If someone hit my child, I would hope I was in one of the more interesting sharp aisles in the store. He wouldn't be able to hit another child again.
You people that are posting like you're sympathizing with that monster are pathetic. I hope you don't have children.
I feel sorry for you... your kids will possibly grow up to be sociopaths... yearning for SOME kinda reaction!
Wishing other people don't have kids is pretty mature of you... I'm sure you're a great parent :roll:
I really do feel sorry for you. The things that you say are disturbing. I don't wish other people not to have children, only the one's that would abuse them.
Kids have no respect these days, because no one beats them... maybe this smack down will put the child on the path to the straight and narrow....
i really hope that this post is a joke.....
if not, wow.
Kids having no respect is not a joke...
hahaha Kids are little fucking shits nowadays! I remember when the principal of my primary school would walk along the verandah tapping his cane as he walked along and we'd all SHIT OURSELVES....nowadays, kids fucking punch their principals and know they can get away with it.
I don't know.....as I said before, I don't think a lot of parents are smart enough or have the time to properly discipline their kids without smacking. It seems to me that a lot of kids don't get disciplined anymore.....and I think a smack on the arse would be better than no discipline at all.
Some parents really do need to fucking shut their kids up at shopping centres though. I can't stand kids screaming and hate when parents just walk along ignoring them or leave them to scream in the aisle and walk off. They may be used to that sound -- but I'm not.
I used to work at the kids/baby department of Sears...
i could have given out my fair share of backhands, i could tell yoU!
i might add - after reading a couple other posts - I don't condone what this man did, whatsoever!
But... like i said, working in a department store and seeing how people shop with their kids day in and day out, i saw a lot of great parents, but a lot who just let their kids do whatever they want. I've literally watched parents WATCHING their children destroy merchandise, pull clothes off racks, hang off the racks (they'll probably be the first to sue when the rack breaks), scream, run, you name it. its all free babysitting! my favourite is when people take toys and give them to their babies to keep them occupied, let them suck on them and drool all ove them and then put it back on the shelf when they're done shopping. think of that next time you are buying a baby gift!
I absolutely think its horrific what this man did and he should be charged with assault, but it reminded me of when I use to waitress many moons ago. I would watch kids take their bubble gum and string it aound the table, they'd crunch crackers all over the floor, they'd open any thing they could find that opens and leave it like that, etc. The parents wouldn't say a word to them. I use to think, "do you let your kids do that at home?".
Of coursd they don't. There was something about being at a restaurant that made the parents think alls fair.
Its not okay to let your kids do whatever they want all because its not their home. The lousy tip you gave me isn't worth trying to unstick gum from around the table, or clean up maple syrup from the booth, or having to replace the next person who sits there food because your angel left the top of the salt loose and it poured all over their food.
Teach your kid right and wrong please.
Itake their bubble gum and string it aound the table, they'd crunch crackers all over the floor, they'd open any thing they could find that opens and leave it like that, etc.
Adults don't do that? Adults are so fidgety sometimes, they just destroy those little nicknacks on the restaurant table. Good thing table jukeboxes were created. Then they could just flip through page after page while they wait for the food.
There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
Itake their bubble gum and string it aound the table, they'd crunch crackers all over the floor, they'd open any thing they could find that opens and leave it like that, etc.
Adults don't do that? Adults are so fidgety sometimes, they just destroy those little nicknacks on the restaurant table. Good thing table jukeboxes were created. Then they could just flip through page after page while they wait for the food.
I think there are some adults who could use a slap in the face too!
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me: helen i just dont know what to do with little johnny anymore.. its gotten where i cant even take him to tesco's
helen: why cate whats the problem??
me: he just continually cries and chucks a tanty whenever we bypass the confectionary aisle.
helen: well cate have you slapped the little bastard?? maybe thatll teach him how to behave in the supermarket.
me: ive always been of the opinion that violence begets violence. i really dont want to hit my child.
helen: no no hell be fine.. hell grow up with respect for you that you taught him how to stay in line through violence. and when hes a parent hell know how to handle the same situation.
me: wow jeez thanks helen i hadnt thought of hitting my child before. youre a lifesaver.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
at no point in this scenario did you punch her in the fudd™ though? why is this?
I think help from the outside can be very useful.
cate: I just dont know what to do with little johnny anymore.. its gotten where i cant even take him to tesco's
me: why cate whats the problem??
cate: he just continually cries and chucks a tanty whenever we bypass the confectionary aisle.
me: well tell him you'll buy him some if he agrees to eat everything you buy. Then you buy him 3 huge family bars and watch him chuck the lot.
cate: but he'll leave a horrific mess
me: take a sick bag cate, take a sick bag.
cate: wow jeez thanks, I never knew that projectile vomiting would be the cure.
me: no problem cate, glad to be of service
thats torture you know.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
i think you know why dunk.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
'smack on the mouth'?????
'she keeps back-talkin like that and I'ma gonna make that mouth a lil less purdy'
The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
im not.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Furthermore, studies have shown that very few children respond well to spankings as disciplinary measures. While the spankings may stop the behavior for the moment, in the long term it does not help the child to learn right from wrong. http://www.come-over.to/FAS/spanking.htm
Interesting article today on Live Science...
Children Who Get Spanked Have Lower IQs
I read that article this morning!
★ 2009 - Sydney, Brisbane, Auckland, Christchurch ★
★ 2011 - EV Newcastle, Melbourne 1, Melbourne 2 ★
OK, who in their right mind spanks an 18 month old???
Prime ass whooping age for me was age 5 to 10.. I knew damn well why I was getting my ass whopped. I even laughed a few times in the process. lol.
And I can't believe this thread is still alive.. you guys are making this guy a legend.. now I know who I'm going to be for Halloween!
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Kids have no respect these days, because no one beats them... maybe this smack down will put the child on the path to the straight and narrow....
i really hope that this post is a joke.....
if not, wow.
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Kids having no respect is not a joke...
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hahaha Kids are little fucking shits nowadays! I remember when the principal of my primary school would walk along the verandah tapping his cane as he walked along and we'd all SHIT OURSELVES....nowadays, kids fucking punch their principals and know they can get away with it.
I don't know.....as I said before, I don't think a lot of parents are smart enough or have the time to properly discipline their kids without smacking. It seems to me that a lot of kids don't get disciplined anymore.....and I think a smack on the arse would be better than no discipline at all.
★ 2009 - Sydney, Brisbane, Auckland, Christchurch ★
★ 2011 - EV Newcastle, Melbourne 1, Melbourne 2 ★
i could have given out my fair share of backhands, i could tell yoU!
i might add - after reading a couple other posts - I don't condone what this man did, whatsoever!
But... like i said, working in a department store and seeing how people shop with their kids day in and day out, i saw a lot of great parents, but a lot who just let their kids do whatever they want. I've literally watched parents WATCHING their children destroy merchandise, pull clothes off racks, hang off the racks (they'll probably be the first to sue when the rack breaks), scream, run, you name it. its all free babysitting! my favourite is when people take toys and give them to their babies to keep them occupied, let them suck on them and drool all ove them and then put it back on the shelf when they're done shopping. think of that next time you are buying a baby gift!
Of coursd they don't. There was something about being at a restaurant that made the parents think alls fair.
Its not okay to let your kids do whatever they want all because its not their home. The lousy tip you gave me isn't worth trying to unstick gum from around the table, or clean up maple syrup from the booth, or having to replace the next person who sits there food because your angel left the top of the salt loose and it poured all over their food.
Teach your kid right and wrong please.
The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird