Stranger allegedly slaps crying child in store

blackredyellow

singularity wrote:

wow, that guy looks like a miserable bastard.

imagine living next to that guy?

Yeah... just going by his mugshot, something tells me that this wasn't the first kid he's hit.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

pjhawks wrote:

MrMerkinball wrote:

There are moments as a parent when you just have to let that kid cry it out. You do your best as a parent to keep your kid happy/entertained etc.....but it's not always perfect.

I have three little ones and there are 1000 great moments for every melt down - but it happens and I bet all of you weren't perfect as kids either.

It doesn't change the fact that you still have to get the grocery shopping done, do your banking, etc and the kid won't always coorperate.

Lastly - for the non parents who are annoyed by the temporary inconvenience of a crying child...move on - at least you get to walk away. The parent has no escape from that situation.

maybe the solution is not taking your child grocery shopping. and why should I remove myself from the area when it is your responsibility for the disturbance?

In my 7 years on this board, I want you to know.....

This could be...The most fucking ridiculous thing I have ever read here......

We are talking about an innocent child who may be crying at a grocery store.......

pjhawks

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Wow... Complete ignorance. Your either not a parent - or your kids are perfect.

I really don't feel that you should engage in a debate unless you can comprehend both sides.

Raising young children is all about scheduling and opportunity. You have only so many hours to get everything done and make your appointments etc., and you don't have a choice. You have to get them done.

If I have been at the grocery store for an hour and my cart is full - I'm not going to just leave if the little one starts crying. You hurry up and get out of there.

This is not about teaching your kids how to behave in public. When you are teaching your kids, it takes time for them to learn and it's never perfect. There are going to be tough moments, and I am sorry that you have to witness them.

Kids cry.....dogs bark.......It's annoying but it is never going to change

Your entire life is centered around keeping your child happy and even if you are a perfect parent, you might still have kids upset 20% of the time.[/quote]

see i think it is ignorant for parents to tell me to deal with their children's issues - i'm sorry it is not my fault your child is acting out - again why should i have to deal with it? other than 'that is what children do' or 'we can't help it' no parent has given any solution other than the rest of us should be quiet and deal with THEIR children's problems and having myself be inconvenienced by leaving the area - again why is it up to me to solve the problem? i don't know what the solution is to having a screaming child and a cart full of groceries but I would hope that you as a parent have a better solution than just telling the rest of us to deal with it.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

And may I add.....

You people on this board who think the way to deal with a crying child at a grocery store is....

To take the child out to the car.....

Or not take the child grocery shopping at all.......

Or are so annoyed by a crying child, that you refer to the situation as a disturbance.......




YOU PEOPLE have some serious fucking issues.....

dunkman

pjhawks wrote:

i don't know what the solution is to having a screaming child and a cart full of groceries but I would hope that you as a parent have a better solution than just telling the rest of us to deal with it.

we dont have the fucking solution either or the world would be quiet wouldnt it.

do you think we want our kids to be sitting in a shop crying their faces off? no, of course not ... they do it through boredom, thirst, hunger, heat, tiredness, etc... not because they want to piss you off.

MrMerkinball

see i think it is ignorant for parents to tell me to deal with their children's issues - i'm sorry it is not my fault your child is acting out - again why should i have to deal with it? other than 'that is what children do' or 'we can't help it' no parent has given any solution other than the rest of us should be quiet and deal with THEIR children's problems and having myself be inconvenienced by leaving the area - again why is it up to me to solve the problem? i don't know what the solution is to having a screaming child and a cart full of groceries but I would hope that you as a parent have a better solution than just telling the rest of us to deal with it.

That's just the point. You are not being asked to deal with it. It is not "up to you to solve the problem". Your only role is to carry on with your life and try to respect the fact that parenting is not a perfect science.

You will understand only when you have kids.

PatrickBateman

I have 4 kids and when I hear other kids screaming in the stores, etc I am just glad its not mine! 2 weeks ago I took the group to rainbow forest cafe or whatever it's called in the mall. My 2 youngest (6month and 2 yr old) were not having a good time and letting everyone know. We had already ordered and received appetizers, but nothing was soothing my little girls. They get tired, cranky, bored, etc. My wife took them out of the restaurant and walked around the mall while I stayed with the other 2. Most kids throw hissy fits when you least want them to. If it gets to the point where they aren't stopping, I will leave the public place. But anyone thinks they are going to slap my kid has another thing coming.

Besides, my 6 month old cant really say to me "hey dad, my tummy hurts, I am tired, and sitting in this stroller while you guys shop isn't helping the fact I just pooped in my pants" so she cries.

Jennytree

MrMerkinball wrote:

You will understand only when you have kids.

Or when you have to bring kids shopping. It's actually one of the most stressful thing I've ever done, and they were being good kids!

By the way, when you're walking around the shop with your headphones on trying to avoid all humans, can you make sure that the volume isn't too loud? I don't want to listen to that racket. Also, turn off your phone, I don't want to be subjected to the noise of your crappy frog ringtone and the sound of you shrieking at your mother cos you've broken curfew.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

ATTENTION SHOPPERS!!!!!!

"Will the parent's of the screaming child in aisle 5, please remove the 6 month old baby from the store. The Pearl Jam elitist's are trying to buy a 5th of Jack Daniels and some pretzels, and YOU are ruining their shopping experience"

pjhawks

MrMerkinball wrote:

see i think it is ignorant for parents to tell me to deal with their children's issues - i'm sorry it is not my fault your child is acting out - again why should i have to deal with it? other than 'that is what children do' or 'we can't help it' no parent has given any solution other than the rest of us should be quiet and deal with THEIR children's problems and having myself be inconvenienced by leaving the area - again why is it up to me to solve the problem? i don't know what the solution is to having a screaming child and a cart full of groceries but I would hope that you as a parent have a better solution than just telling the rest of us to deal with it.

That's just the point. You are not being asked to deal with it. It is not "up to you to solve the problem". Your only role is to carry on with your life and try to respect the fact that parenting is not a perfect science.

You will understand only when you have kids.

ok i get it from all you parents - f me and my thoughts because i don't have children and children will act out and carry on and their really is nothing parents can do about it. there is no solution and im the ahole because your child is crying. i try to see the parents point of view and i understand your point of view to a point but can you at least acknowledge some of our points are valid and not act like our point of view is so foreign and 'ignorant' and 'ridiculous'? this is all i have to say on this because clearly whenever speaking to parents about children it strikes a nerve.

pjhawks

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

ATTENTION SHOPPERS!!!!!!

"Will the parent's of the screaming child in aisle 5, please remove the 6 month old baby from the store. The Pearl Jam elitist's are trying to buy a 5th of Jack Daniels and some pretzels, and YOU are ruining their shopping experience"

"ATTENTION all parents - the world revolves around you and your children - f everyone else" thank you.!

blackredyellow

pjhawks wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

ATTENTION SHOPPERS!!!!!!

"Will the parent's of the screaming child in aisle 5, please remove the 6 month old baby from the store. The Pearl Jam elitist's are trying to buy a 5th of Jack Daniels and some pretzels, and YOU are ruining their shopping experience"

"ATTENTION all parents - the world revolves around you and your children - f everyone else" thank you.!

over-dramatic much?

I get annoyed by the lady LOUDLY talking on her bluetooth, I get annoyed by the old lady who lets her cart sit, blocking the entire aisle while she is comparing 47 different brands of baked beans, I get annoyed by screaming kids, I hate the emo kid or the rap kid with their headphones turned up to 800 decibles, I get annoyed by the loud college guys arguing about what kind of beer to buy or the overly-dramatic high school girls trying to figure out who's buying what for their Twilight party...

But I'm not self-centered enough to say that they shouldn't be disturb my shopping, I just try to get past them as quick as possible.

know1

Don't slap the child....the parent is probably the one who needs to be slapped.

(and I'm not advocating that either because I don't believe in violence)

comebackgirl

If hearing a child crying in a Walmart is the worst thing that's happened to you all day...you're having a pretty damn good day. Get over it. And I mean...it's Walmart...is a crying child really the most disturbing thing you're gonna see?

chime

pjhawks wrote:

ok i get it from all you parents - f me and my thoughts because i don't have children and children will act out and carry on and their really is nothing parents can do about it. there is no solution and im the ahole because your child is crying. i try to see the parents point of view and i understand your point of view to a point but can you at least acknowledge some of our points are valid and not act like our point of view is so foreign and 'ignorant' and 'ridiculous'? this is all i have to say on this because clearly whenever speaking to parents about children it strikes a nerve.

You seem to presume everyone posting not seeing your point of view is a parent. I'm not a parent. I understand children cry for many reasons and sometimes the parents can't soothe them or need to ignore them to not encourage the behaviour.

I just get on with my shopping ... while maybe feeling a little sorry for the parent who is probably more stressed by the crying then you are

Ledbetterman10

aNiMaL wrote:

The mother said a stranger later identified as Stephens approached them and said, "If you don't shut the baby up, I will shut her up for you."

Well it's not like he didn't warn her.

surfanddestroy

I can understant sometimes children cry and its not the parents fault, thats fine I dont mind and actually sometimes feel sorry for the parent.

It's when a child is crying and the parent is just screaming back at it, that is not good parenting and is just going to make the child cry harder.

norm

aNiMaL wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1_NhnXMCKw

QuarterToTen

as parents, our number one job is to teach. and teaching children what is and isn't appropriate is a never-ending, exhausting, overwhelming and intensely rewarding task. as adults, we all know it's not acceptable behavior to scream and yell in public, but they simply don't know any better. and simply removing kids from uncomfortable situations isn't doing anyone any good. it's part of the teaching/learning process to expose kids to social situations where certain behaviors are expected. rewarding good behavior should be priority, not punishing the bad, or what is percieved by others as bad, it only perpetuates the problem.

sometimes our words soothe, sometimes they don't. and when they don't it can be mortifying to others,
but that's the best we can do.

if people can't 'handle' a sniffling child who doesn't get the toy he wants and is wailing as if his life depended on it, then maybe they are the ones who should stay at home.

gabers

If a stranger slapped my child I'd shank their ass. :evil: