can i just add that there are far too many dog avatars on this thread!
can you not at least make them animated avatars and have them all chasing their own tails like the idiot animals they are... a 3 year old doesnt chase its own tail... nor does it slide down grass slopes because it has an itchy arse.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
can i just add that there are far too many dog avatars on this thread!
can you not at least make them animated avatars and have them all chasing their own tails like the idiot animals they are... a 3 year old doesnt chase its own tail... nor does it slide down grass slopes because it has an itchy arse.
I hear most serial killers dont like dogs
My drinking team has a hockey problem
The ONLY thing better than a glass of beer is tea with Miss McGill
A protuberance of flesh above the waistband of a tight pair of trousers
can i just add that there are far too many dog avatars on this thread!
can you not at least make them animated avatars and have them all chasing their own tails like the idiot animals they are... a 3 year old doesnt chase its own tail... nor does it slide down grass slopes because it has an itchy arse.
I hear most serial killers dont like dogs
well most serial killers do have a higher than average IQ :twisted:
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
can i just add that there are far too many dog avatars on this thread!
can you not at least make them animated avatars and have them all chasing their own tails like the idiot animals they are... a 3 year old doesnt chase its own tail... nor does it slide down grass slopes because it has an itchy arse.
I hear most serial killers dont like dogs
well most serial killers do have a higher than average IQ :twisted:
Touche !
Key word "Most"
My drinking team has a hockey problem
The ONLY thing better than a glass of beer is tea with Miss McGill
A protuberance of flesh above the waistband of a tight pair of trousers
maybe the solution is not taking your child grocery shopping.
If there is nobody to mind the child, how do you expect the shopping get done?! Starve them to death?!
typical reply of today's parents - 'not my fault'. look i understand that people often don't have anyone else to watch their kids and need to take them places but that doesn't give you the right to allow your children to act out and carry on in public. Because you have no other alternatives don't blame me because I don't want to deal with a child running around carrying on - show some respect for the other adults in the situation and take responsibility for their behavior. the notion of letting a child act out because 'that is what children do' should not be acceptable. if your children don't know how to act in public then teach them how to. you are the parent, act like one. in no way am i condoning the actions of this ahole but there has to be a better solution from parents than telling others to deal with it.
Wow... people get that worked up about a crying child in a store? Some people are wound a bit too tight.And if someone tried to do that to my kid, I'm not a violent person, but people would probably have to pull me off of him.
And I agree about not taking the kid outside if he/she cries... Yes, sometimes shopping trips have to be cut short, but teaching a kid that if they cry you will take them home is going to cause a lot more screaming shopping trips.
These stores are ginormous, if you are around a screaming kid, an annoying old lady blocking the aisle, or whatever, it's not that hard to maybe do the shopping that you need to do in other aisles first.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
if your children don't know how to act in public then teach them how to.
ok... and exactly how does one do that without letting a kid throw a fit an ignoring it once in a while?
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
maybe the solution is not taking your child grocery shopping.
If there is nobody to mind the child, how do you expect the shopping get done?! Starve them to death?!
typical reply of today's parents - 'not my fault'. look i understand that people often don't have anyone else to watch their kids and need to take them places but that doesn't give you the right to allow your children to act out and carry on in public. Because you have no other alternatives don't blame me because I don't want to deal with a child running around carrying on - show some respect for the other adults in the situation and take responsibility for their behavior. the notion of letting a child act out because 'that is what children do' should not be acceptable. if your children don't know how to act in public then teach them how to. you are the parent, act like one. in no way am i condoning the actions of this ahole but there has to be a better solution from parents than telling others to deal with it.
Wow... Complete ignorance. Your either not a parent - or your kids are perfect.
I really don't feel that you should engage in a debate unless you can comprehend both sides.
Raising young children is all about scheduling and opportunity. You have only so many hours to get everything done and make your appointments etc., and you don't have a choice. You have to get them done.
If I have been at the grocery store for an hour and my cart is full - I'm not going to just leave if the little one starts crying. You hurry up and get out of there.
This is not about teaching your kids how to behave in public. When you are teaching your kids, it takes time for them to learn and it's never perfect. There are going to be tough moments, and I am sorry that you have to witness them.
Kids cry.....dogs bark.......It's annoying but it is never going to change
Your entire life is centered around keeping your child happy and even if you are a perfect parent, you might still have kids upset 20% of the time.
maybe the solution is not taking your child grocery shopping.
If there is nobody to mind the child, how do you expect the shopping get done?! Starve them to death?!
typical reply of today's parents - 'not my fault'. look i understand that people often don't have anyone else to watch their kids and need to take them places but that doesn't give you the right to allow your children to act out and carry on in public. Because you have no other alternatives don't blame me because I don't want to deal with a child running around carrying on - show some respect for the other adults in the situation and take responsibility for their behavior. the notion of letting a child act out because 'that is what children do' should not be acceptable. if your children don't know how to act in public then teach them how to. you are the parent, act like one. in no way am i condoning the actions of this ahole but there has to be a better solution from parents than telling others to deal with it.
you either need to really lighten up a bit or contemplate 3am grocery shopping trips.
most sensible parents dont want their kids to act up when they are out, but sometimes they do, just as sometimes non-parents get all pious about their right to 37 seconds of silence when buying single person microwave meals... but thats life.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Yeah... just going by his mugshot, something tells me that this wasn't the first kid he's hit.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
There are moments as a parent when you just have to let that kid cry it out. You do your best as a parent to keep your kid happy/entertained etc.....but it's not always perfect.
I have three little ones and there are 1000 great moments for every melt down - but it happens and I bet all of you weren't perfect as kids either.
It doesn't change the fact that you still have to get the grocery shopping done, do your banking, etc and the kid won't always coorperate.
Lastly - for the non parents who are annoyed by the temporary inconvenience of a crying child...move on - at least you get to walk away. The parent has no escape from that situation.
maybe the solution is not taking your child grocery shopping. and why should I remove myself from the area when it is your responsibility for the disturbance?
In my 7 years on this board, I want you to know.....
This could be...The most fucking ridiculous thing I have ever read here......
We are talking about an innocent child who may be crying at a grocery store.......
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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Wow... Complete ignorance. Your either not a parent - or your kids are perfect.
I really don't feel that you should engage in a debate unless you can comprehend both sides.
Raising young children is all about scheduling and opportunity. You have only so many hours to get everything done and make your appointments etc., and you don't have a choice. You have to get them done.
If I have been at the grocery store for an hour and my cart is full - I'm not going to just leave if the little one starts crying. You hurry up and get out of there.
This is not about teaching your kids how to behave in public. When you are teaching your kids, it takes time for them to learn and it's never perfect. There are going to be tough moments, and I am sorry that you have to witness them.
Kids cry.....dogs bark.......It's annoying but it is never going to change
Your entire life is centered around keeping your child happy and even if you are a perfect parent, you might still have kids upset 20% of the time.[/quote]
see i think it is ignorant for parents to tell me to deal with their children's issues - i'm sorry it is not my fault your child is acting out - again why should i have to deal with it? other than 'that is what children do' or 'we can't help it' no parent has given any solution other than the rest of us should be quiet and deal with THEIR children's problems and having myself be inconvenienced by leaving the area - again why is it up to me to solve the problem? i don't know what the solution is to having a screaming child and a cart full of groceries but I would hope that you as a parent have a better solution than just telling the rest of us to deal with it.
i don't know what the solution is to having a screaming child and a cart full of groceries but I would hope that you as a parent have a better solution than just telling the rest of us to deal with it.
we dont have the fucking solution either or the world would be quiet wouldnt it.
do you think we want our kids to be sitting in a shop crying their faces off? no, of course not ... they do it through boredom, thirst, hunger, heat, tiredness, etc... not because they want to piss you off.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
see i think it is ignorant for parents to tell me to deal with their children's issues - i'm sorry it is not my fault your child is acting out - again why should i have to deal with it? other than 'that is what children do' or 'we can't help it' no parent has given any solution other than the rest of us should be quiet and deal with THEIR children's problems and having myself be inconvenienced by leaving the area - again why is it up to me to solve the problem? i don't know what the solution is to having a screaming child and a cart full of groceries but I would hope that you as a parent have a better solution than just telling the rest of us to deal with it.
That's just the point. You are not being asked to deal with it. It is not "up to you to solve the problem". Your only role is to carry on with your life and try to respect the fact that parenting is not a perfect science.
I have 4 kids and when I hear other kids screaming in the stores, etc I am just glad its not mine! 2 weeks ago I took the group to rainbow forest cafe or whatever it's called in the mall. My 2 youngest (6month and 2 yr old) were not having a good time and letting everyone know. We had already ordered and received appetizers, but nothing was soothing my little girls. They get tired, cranky, bored, etc. My wife took them out of the restaurant and walked around the mall while I stayed with the other 2. Most kids throw hissy fits when you least want them to. If it gets to the point where they aren't stopping, I will leave the public place. But anyone thinks they are going to slap my kid has another thing coming.
Besides, my 6 month old cant really say to me "hey dad, my tummy hurts, I am tired, and sitting in this stroller while you guys shop isn't helping the fact I just pooped in my pants" so she cries.
If a man speaks in a forest and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?
Or when you have to bring kids shopping. It's actually one of the most stressful thing I've ever done, and they were being good kids!
By the way, when you're walking around the shop with your headphones on trying to avoid all humans, can you make sure that the volume isn't too loud? I don't want to listen to that racket. Also, turn off your phone, I don't want to be subjected to the noise of your crappy frog ringtone and the sound of you shrieking at your mother cos you've broken curfew.
"Will the parent's of the screaming child in aisle 5, please remove the 6 month old baby from the store. The Pearl Jam elitist's are trying to buy a 5th of Jack Daniels and some pretzels, and YOU are ruining their shopping experience"
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
see i think it is ignorant for parents to tell me to deal with their children's issues - i'm sorry it is not my fault your child is acting out - again why should i have to deal with it? other than 'that is what children do' or 'we can't help it' no parent has given any solution other than the rest of us should be quiet and deal with THEIR children's problems and having myself be inconvenienced by leaving the area - again why is it up to me to solve the problem? i don't know what the solution is to having a screaming child and a cart full of groceries but I would hope that you as a parent have a better solution than just telling the rest of us to deal with it.
That's just the point. You are not being asked to deal with it. It is not "up to you to solve the problem". Your only role is to carry on with your life and try to respect the fact that parenting is not a perfect science.
You will understand only when you have kids.
ok i get it from all you parents - f me and my thoughts because i don't have children and children will act out and carry on and their really is nothing parents can do about it. there is no solution and im the ahole because your child is crying. i try to see the parents point of view and i understand your point of view to a point but can you at least acknowledge some of our points are valid and not act like our point of view is so foreign and 'ignorant' and 'ridiculous'? this is all i have to say on this because clearly whenever speaking to parents about children it strikes a nerve.
"Will the parent's of the screaming child in aisle 5, please remove the 6 month old baby from the store. The Pearl Jam elitist's are trying to buy a 5th of Jack Daniels and some pretzels, and YOU are ruining their shopping experience"
"ATTENTION all parents - the world revolves around you and your children - f everyone else" thank you.!
"Will the parent's of the screaming child in aisle 5, please remove the 6 month old baby from the store. The Pearl Jam elitist's are trying to buy a 5th of Jack Daniels and some pretzels, and YOU are ruining their shopping experience"
"ATTENTION all parents - the world revolves around you and your children - f everyone else" thank you.!
over-dramatic much?
I get annoyed by the lady LOUDLY talking on her bluetooth, I get annoyed by the old lady who lets her cart sit, blocking the entire aisle while she is comparing 47 different brands of baked beans, I get annoyed by screaming kids, I hate the emo kid or the rap kid with their headphones turned up to 800 decibles, I get annoyed by the loud college guys arguing about what kind of beer to buy or the overly-dramatic high school girls trying to figure out who's buying what for their Twilight party...
But I'm not self-centered enough to say that they shouldn't be disturb my shopping, I just try to get past them as quick as possible.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
If hearing a child crying in a Walmart is the worst thing that's happened to you all day...you're having a pretty damn good day. Get over it. And I mean...it's Walmart...is a crying child really the most disturbing thing you're gonna see?
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ok i get it from all you parents - f me and my thoughts because i don't have children and children will act out and carry on and their really is nothing parents can do about it. there is no solution and im the ahole because your child is crying. i try to see the parents point of view and i understand your point of view to a point but can you at least acknowledge some of our points are valid and not act like our point of view is so foreign and 'ignorant' and 'ridiculous'? this is all i have to say on this because clearly whenever speaking to parents about children it strikes a nerve.
You seem to presume everyone posting not seeing your point of view is a parent. I'm not a parent. I understand children cry for many reasons and sometimes the parents can't soothe them or need to ignore them to not encourage the behaviour.
I just get on with my shopping ... while maybe feeling a little sorry for the parent who is probably more stressed by the crying then you are
So are we strangers now? Like rock and roll and the radio?
I can understant sometimes children cry and its not the parents fault, thats fine I dont mind and actually sometimes feel sorry for the parent.
It's when a child is crying and the parent is just screaming back at it, that is not good parenting and is just going to make the child cry harder.
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as parents, our number one job is to teach. and teaching children what is and isn't appropriate is a never-ending, exhausting, overwhelming and intensely rewarding task. as adults, we all know it's not acceptable behavior to scream and yell in public, but they simply don't know any better. and simply removing kids from uncomfortable situations isn't doing anyone any good. it's part of the teaching/learning process to expose kids to social situations where certain behaviors are expected. rewarding good behavior should be priority, not punishing the bad, or what is percieved by others as bad, it only perpetuates the problem.
sometimes our words soothe, sometimes they don't. and when they don't it can be mortifying to others,
but that's the best we can do.
if people can't 'handle' a sniffling child who doesn't get the toy he wants and is wailing as if his life depended on it, then maybe they are the ones who should stay at home.
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can you not at least make them animated avatars and have them all chasing their own tails like the idiot animals they are... a 3 year old doesnt chase its own tail... nor does it slide down grass slopes because it has an itchy arse.
I hear most serial killers dont like dogs
The ONLY thing better than a glass of beer is tea with Miss McGill
A protuberance of flesh above the waistband of a tight pair of trousers
well most serial killers do have a higher than average IQ
Touche !
Key word "Most"
The ONLY thing better than a glass of beer is tea with Miss McGill
A protuberance of flesh above the waistband of a tight pair of trousers
typical reply of today's parents - 'not my fault'. look i understand that people often don't have anyone else to watch their kids and need to take them places but that doesn't give you the right to allow your children to act out and carry on in public. Because you have no other alternatives don't blame me because I don't want to deal with a child running around carrying on - show some respect for the other adults in the situation and take responsibility for their behavior. the notion of letting a child act out because 'that is what children do' should not be acceptable. if your children don't know how to act in public then teach them how to. you are the parent, act like one. in no way am i condoning the actions of this ahole but there has to be a better solution from parents than telling others to deal with it.
And I agree about not taking the kid outside if he/she cries... Yes, sometimes shopping trips have to be cut short, but teaching a kid that if they cry you will take them home is going to cause a lot more screaming shopping trips.
These stores are ginormous, if you are around a screaming kid, an annoying old lady blocking the aisle, or whatever, it's not that hard to maybe do the shopping that you need to do in other aisles first.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
ok... and exactly how does one do that without letting a kid throw a fit an ignoring it once in a while?
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
I really don't feel that you should engage in a debate unless you can comprehend both sides.
Raising young children is all about scheduling and opportunity. You have only so many hours to get everything done and make your appointments etc., and you don't have a choice. You have to get them done.
If I have been at the grocery store for an hour and my cart is full - I'm not going to just leave if the little one starts crying. You hurry up and get out of there.
This is not about teaching your kids how to behave in public. When you are teaching your kids, it takes time for them to learn and it's never perfect. There are going to be tough moments, and I am sorry that you have to witness them.
Kids cry.....dogs bark.......It's annoying but it is never going to change
Your entire life is centered around keeping your child happy and even if you are a perfect parent, you might still have kids upset 20% of the time.
you either need to really lighten up a bit or contemplate 3am grocery shopping trips.
most sensible parents dont want their kids to act up when they are out, but sometimes they do, just as sometimes non-parents get all pious about their right to 37 seconds of silence when buying single person microwave meals... but thats life.
imagine living next to that guy?
Yeah... just going by his mugshot, something tells me that this wasn't the first kid he's hit.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
This could be...The most fucking ridiculous thing I have ever read here......
We are talking about an innocent child who may be crying at a grocery store.......
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Wow... Complete ignorance. Your either not a parent - or your kids are perfect.
I really don't feel that you should engage in a debate unless you can comprehend both sides.
Raising young children is all about scheduling and opportunity. You have only so many hours to get everything done and make your appointments etc., and you don't have a choice. You have to get them done.
If I have been at the grocery store for an hour and my cart is full - I'm not going to just leave if the little one starts crying. You hurry up and get out of there.
This is not about teaching your kids how to behave in public. When you are teaching your kids, it takes time for them to learn and it's never perfect. There are going to be tough moments, and I am sorry that you have to witness them.
Kids cry.....dogs bark.......It's annoying but it is never going to change
Your entire life is centered around keeping your child happy and even if you are a perfect parent, you might still have kids upset 20% of the time.[/quote]
see i think it is ignorant for parents to tell me to deal with their children's issues - i'm sorry it is not my fault your child is acting out - again why should i have to deal with it? other than 'that is what children do' or 'we can't help it' no parent has given any solution other than the rest of us should be quiet and deal with THEIR children's problems and having myself be inconvenienced by leaving the area - again why is it up to me to solve the problem? i don't know what the solution is to having a screaming child and a cart full of groceries but I would hope that you as a parent have a better solution than just telling the rest of us to deal with it.
You people on this board who think the way to deal with a crying child at a grocery store is....
To take the child out to the car.....
Or not take the child grocery shopping at all.......
Or are so annoyed by a crying child, that you refer to the situation as a disturbance.......
YOU PEOPLE have some serious fucking issues.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
we dont have the fucking solution either or the world would be quiet wouldnt it.
do you think we want our kids to be sitting in a shop crying their faces off? no, of course not ... they do it through boredom, thirst, hunger, heat, tiredness, etc... not because they want to piss you off.
You will understand only when you have kids.
Besides, my 6 month old cant really say to me "hey dad, my tummy hurts, I am tired, and sitting in this stroller while you guys shop isn't helping the fact I just pooped in my pants" so she cries.
Or when you have to bring kids shopping. It's actually one of the most stressful thing I've ever done, and they were being good kids!
By the way, when you're walking around the shop with your headphones on trying to avoid all humans, can you make sure that the volume isn't too loud? I don't want to listen to that racket. Also, turn off your phone, I don't want to be subjected to the noise of your crappy frog ringtone and the sound of you shrieking at your mother cos you've broken curfew.
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"Will the parent's of the screaming child in aisle 5, please remove the 6 month old baby from the store. The Pearl Jam elitist's are trying to buy a 5th of Jack Daniels and some pretzels, and YOU are ruining their shopping experience"
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
ok i get it from all you parents - f me and my thoughts because i don't have children and children will act out and carry on and their really is nothing parents can do about it. there is no solution and im the ahole because your child is crying. i try to see the parents point of view and i understand your point of view to a point but can you at least acknowledge some of our points are valid and not act like our point of view is so foreign and 'ignorant' and 'ridiculous'? this is all i have to say on this because clearly whenever speaking to parents about children it strikes a nerve.
"ATTENTION all parents - the world revolves around you and your children - f everyone else" thank you.!
over-dramatic much?
I get annoyed by the lady LOUDLY talking on her bluetooth, I get annoyed by the old lady who lets her cart sit, blocking the entire aisle while she is comparing 47 different brands of baked beans, I get annoyed by screaming kids, I hate the emo kid or the rap kid with their headphones turned up to 800 decibles, I get annoyed by the loud college guys arguing about what kind of beer to buy or the overly-dramatic high school girls trying to figure out who's buying what for their Twilight party...
But I'm not self-centered enough to say that they shouldn't be disturb my shopping, I just try to get past them as quick as possible.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
(and I'm not advocating that either because I don't believe in violence)
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Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
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You seem to presume everyone posting not seeing your point of view is a parent. I'm not a parent. I understand children cry for many reasons and sometimes the parents can't soothe them or need to ignore them to not encourage the behaviour.
I just get on with my shopping ... while maybe feeling a little sorry for the parent who is probably more stressed by the crying then you are
Well it's not like he didn't warn her.
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It's when a child is crying and the parent is just screaming back at it, that is not good parenting and is just going to make the child cry harder.
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sometimes our words soothe, sometimes they don't. and when they don't it can be mortifying to others,
but that's the best we can do.
if people can't 'handle' a sniffling child who doesn't get the toy he wants and is wailing as if his life depended on it, then maybe they are the ones who should stay at home.