Some parents really do need to fucking shut their kids up at shopping centres though. I can't stand kids screaming and hate when parents just walk along ignoring them or leave them to scream in the aisle and walk off. They may be used to that sound -- but I'm not.
Yeah, I hear you. I hate when parents don't discipline their kids. But yeah that guy was totally out of line. :evil:
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I honestly don't think I ever said that or tried to insinuate that. If for some reason that is how I've come across than I understand people directing comments at me. I am just coming from the perspective that it can be annoying to us and don't make us out to be the bad guy because we are getting annoyed at it. I mean the guy above wants to kick me in the face for being annoyed at his child acting out - how is that acceptable?
By saying the following:
* "Don't come shopping"
* "Why should I have to deal with it"?
....it is insulting.
Feel free to be annoyed. But please try to understand that 90% of the parents in that situation are doing their very best.
The other 10% of parents who yell back or let their frustrations get the better of them could probably do a better job.
Bottom line my free wheeling-non parent-friend, is that parenting the little ones is a non stop adventure that has it's highs and lows. It pushes and challenges you 24 hours a day from the moment that kid is born. It is exhausting and exhilarating.
It is simply the best thing in the world, and I am sorry - you can never understand it until you have done it.
yup the world revolves you and your children and the rest of us be damned - that is the sentiment on every post of the parents on here but i'm the bad guy because I don't like it when parents do nothing as their children act out and create scenes in public places.
and boy saying i can't understand it is very condescending but thanks - hope you teach that to your children.
why am I being insulted here? at no point have I issued any insults to parents - i've simply stated the case of the people in the store without children and the perspective of non-parents and i've been labeled selfish (how not wanting to hear a child crying is selfish i dont know), ridiculous and other things. why does my opinion not count? the essential answer here from parents is there is nothing that can be done about it and somehow those of us who might be annoyed by a screaming pouting child, who is not our child, are somehow in the wrong. i just don't understand the parental logic of insulting others for not wanting to hear your child's misbehavior.
How did I insult you? I hope you didn’t get the impression I was talking about kicking you in the face! I was joking about kicking your seat in an airplane, and getting in your face if you gave me attitude over my kid crying…never advocated violence.
I once sat thru a six hour flight with a SCREAMING two year old…the poor parents tried EVERYTHING imaginable, and could not get the child to stop. While it was possibly the most aggravating thing I’ve ever been thru, I would not look at it as bad parenting or a misbehaving child. There was obviously something wrong, and I felt terrible for the parents having to deal with condemning looks from other passengers on top of the stress of knowing their kid was in discomfort. And that is the point – you have no idea why the child is crying, nor what the parents have tried or not tried to make it stop / what works best for that particular kid…the lack of empathy and self-important attitude of ‘not wanting to hear a child crying’ makes an already difficult situation a lot more difficult. It comes off as seriously callous to say you don’t want to hear a child cry. Like…have a fucking heart, man! It’s a KID.
For the record; I agree that the restaurant/movie situation is completely different. The key being that it is possible to leave and return once the kid has calmed down. But I’ll be godamned if I’m going to leave a cart full of groceries and then have to try again later (and by this logic, possibly starve to death), just so that you don’t have to listen to a kid cry for a minute or two while in public. Suck it up. Seriously.
If you are simply saying you condemn parents that dont' do anything about it, fine...but that's backpeddling - you have made much broader statements thruout this thread.
I once sat thru a six hour flight with a SCREAMING two year old…
I know it's kind of off the topic, but noise canceling headphones are the best investment I ever made. Especially if you are a person who travels a lot.
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I once sat thru a six hour flight with a SCREAMING two year old…
I know it's kind of off the topic, but noise canceling headphones are the best investment I ever made. Especially if you are a person who travels a lot.
Not off topic at all (well, not off the derailed topic anyway)! Do they sell them at Wal Mart?
why am I being insulted here? at no point have I issued any insults to parents - i've simply stated the case of the people in the store without children and the perspective of non-parents and i've been labeled selfish (how not wanting to hear a child crying is selfish i dont know), ridiculous and other things. why does my opinion not count? the essential answer here from parents is there is nothing that can be done about it and somehow those of us who might be annoyed by a screaming pouting child, who is not our child, are somehow in the wrong. i just don't understand the parental logic of insulting others for not wanting to hear your child's misbehavior.
How did I insult you? I hope you didn’t get the impression I was talking about kicking you in the face! I was joking about kicking your seat in an airplane, and getting in your face if you gave me attitude over my kid crying…never advocated violence.
I once sat thru a six hour flight with a SCREAMING two year old…the poor parents tried EVERYTHING imaginable, and could not get the child to stop. While it was possibly the most aggravating thing I’ve ever been thru, I would not look at it as bad parenting or a misbehaving child. There was obviously something wrong, and I felt terrible for the parents having to deal with condemning looks from other passengers on top of the stress of knowing their kid was in discomfort. And that is the point – you have no idea why the child is crying, nor what the parents have tried or not tried to make it stop / what works best for that particular kid…the lack of empathy and self-important attitude of ‘not wanting to hear a child crying’ makes an already difficult situation a lot more difficult. It comes off as seriously callous to say you don’t want to hear a child cry. Like…have a fucking heart, man! It’s a KID.
For the record; I agree that the restaurant/movie situation is completely different. The key being that it is possible to leave and return once the kid has calmed down. But I’ll be godamned if I’m going to leave a cart full of groceries and then have to try again later (and by this logic, possibly starve to death), just so that you don’t have to listen to a kid cry for a minute or two while in public. Suck it up. Seriously.
If you are simply saying you condemn parents that dont' do anything about it, fine...but that's backpeddling - you have made much broader statements thruout this thread.
i don't think we are talking about a child simply "crying", at least I haven't been - the behavior that i think this thread talks about is more the unruly, 5-10 minutes of just flat out pure evil ear-splitting temper tantrums that are a huge disruption to anyone and everyone. obviously i think there is a distinction between normal child behavior and disruptions of this nature. maybe that is why this thread has taken a turn for the worse because the definitions of what i am referring to and what parents here are referring to are two different things.
I once sat thru a six hour flight with a SCREAMING two year old…
I know it's kind of off the topic, but noise canceling headphones are the best investment I ever made. Especially if you are a person who travels a lot.
Not off topic at all (well, not off the derailed topic anyway)! Do they sell them at Wal Mart?
You might have to buy them before you go to Wal Mart. Word on the street is that it is crazy noisy up in that place!
"The dude abides. I don't know about you, but I take comfort in that. It's good knowin' he's out there. The Dude. Takin' her easy for all us sinners."
I honestly don't think I ever said that or tried to insinuate that. If for some reason that is how I've come across than I understand people directing comments at me. I am just coming from the perspective that it can be annoying to us and don't make us out to be the bad guy because we are getting annoyed at it. I mean the guy above wants to kick me in the face for being annoyed at his child acting out - how is that acceptable?
By saying the following:
* "Don't come shopping"
* "Why should I have to deal with it"?
....it is insulting.
Feel free to be annoyed. But please try to understand that 90% of the parents in that situation are doing their very best.
The other 10% of parents who yell back or let their frustrations get the better of them could probably do a better job.
Bottom line my free wheeling-non parent-friend, is that parenting the little ones is a non stop adventure that has it's highs and lows. It pushes and challenges you 24 hours a day from the moment that kid is born. It is exhausting and exhilarating.
It is simply the best thing in the world, and I am sorry - you can never understand it until you have done it.
yup the world revolves you and your children and the rest of us be damned - that is the sentiment on every post of the parents on here but i'm the bad guy because I don't like it when parents do nothing as their children act out and create scenes in public places.
and boy saying i can't understand it is very condescending but thanks - hope you teach that to your children.
I apologize. You are right. I'll go home now and sit in my house and come out when the kids are teenagers. They will be well adjusted young adults if I keep them completely isolated.
I really didn't mean to be disrespectful....I just get a kick out of people who have no clue what it's like, and seem to think it is so simple.
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Some of the suggestions made here by some of our posters are unreal indeed. As a father and single parent of my daughter what I can suggest is it takes patience to be a good parent. I fortunately had to have a lot of that being a pre-school teacher of 20 in my classroom many years ago. The earlier you can teach a child basic child rearing behavior the easier it will be as they get older, however now as a teen I wonder about that.
I can recall one incident coming back from Nantucket, Mass when my daughter was 4 and we had to stop in Laguardia Airport, NJ. We sat on that tarmac for 4 hours and I had to hold my daughter in arms through bathroom issues etc. It was dead silence on that plane except for a few passengers whining about why and when we were going to leave. I just held her, talked to her and answered about a 1000 questions she had until the plane FINALLY took off. It's at that time she finally fell asleep, upon arrival in DC the passengers around us all came by and thanked me for being so calm and patient with my daughter.
I thought nothing of it until on my way home, I thought about all that happened on our trip and it amazed me how well it turned out. So parents/parents to be and those watching children sometimes what it may take is a little patience.
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Whoa. This is quite a thread! And I only read the first page so forgive me if this has already been said, but for me the number one reason I don't take my child out of the grocery store when it is screaming is because I don't want the kid to be in charge and use the "I can scream and mom will get me out of here" card anytime it wants. The restaurant, however is a different story. I've only had to leave the restaurant with one of my daughters one time. She was 15 months old and crying in the restaurant, so I left my husband and other children in the restaurant to finish their meals, while I took my daughter out to the car, strapped her in her car seat and stared straight ahead of me out the window until 30 minutes later when my family was ready to leave. I didn't speak to her the entire time we were in the car except when we first left the restaurant and I told her we would sit and wait in the car until everyone else was finished with dinner since she couldn't control herself in the restaurant. She never misbehaved in a restaurant after that incident.
Whoa. This is quite a thread! And I only read the first page so forgive me if this has already been said, but for me the number one reason I don't take my child out of the grocery store when it is screaming is because I don't want the kid to be in charge and use the "I can scream and mom will get me out of here" card anytime it wants. The restaurant, however is a different story. I've only had to leave the restaurant with one of my daughters one time. She was 15 months old and crying in the restaurant, so I left my husband and other children in the restaurant to finish their meals, while I took my daughter out to the car, strapped her in her car seat and stared straight ahead of me out the window until 30 minutes later when my family was ready to leave. I didn't speak to her the entire time we were in the car except when we first left the restaurant and I told her we would sit and wait in the car until everyone else was finished with dinner since she couldn't control herself in the restaurant. She never misbehaved in a restaurant after that incident.
Not to be an asshole but that's some serious psychological warfar you have put on a 15 month old child's mind...
Wonder what Dr. Phil thinks about that...
"The shades go down"
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Not to be an asshole but that's some serious psychological warfar you have put on a 15 month old child's mind...
Wonder what Dr. Phil thinks about that...
"The shades go down"
Really??? You think so? Should I have taken her home and baked her cookies instead?
She needed to know that if you scream to get out of something, it's not going to be a party on the other side. And like I said, I've never had to do that again.
I really screwed that up. I really Schruted it.
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Whoa. This is quite a thread! And I only read the first page so forgive me if this has already been said, but for me the number one reason I don't take my child out of the grocery store when it is screaming is because I don't want the kid to be in charge and use the "I can scream and mom will get me out of here" card anytime it wants. The restaurant, however is a different story. I've only had to leave the restaurant with one of my daughters one time. She was 15 months old and crying in the restaurant, so I left my husband and other children in the restaurant to finish their meals, while I took my daughter out to the car, strapped her in her car seat and stared straight ahead of me out the window until 30 minutes later when my family was ready to leave. I didn't speak to her the entire time we were in the car except when we first left the restaurant and I told her we would sit and wait in the car until everyone else was finished with dinner since she couldn't control herself in the restaurant. She never misbehaved in a restaurant after that incident.
Sometimes when things get crazy I crack a joke with my daughter ex:....Cure For a Bad Day
Peace
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Not to be an asshole but that's some serious psychological warfar you have put on a 15 month old child's mind...
Wonder what Dr. Phil thinks about that...
Really??? You think so? Should I have taken her home and baked her cookies instead?
She needed to know that if you scream to get out of something, it's not going to be a party on the other side. And like I said, I've never had to do that again.[/quote]
I think I would have done the same thing that you did.
Sometimes when things get crazy I crack a joke with my daughter ex:....Cure For a Bad Day
Peace
That is so cool! I kept watching and watching until I couldn't stop laughing.
I'm a twin, and there is an image of me and my twin looking at the camera in our matching onesies, and we are so happy like we are laughing.
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if that motherfucker did that to my kid i would be in jail for murder. yeah it sucks when my 2 year old cries and most of the time we leave when he cries and screams but the fact is i got to do my shopping to get diapers food and stuff. i do everything i can to get him to stop crying.
Not to be an asshole but that's some serious psychological warfar you have put on a 15 month old child's mind...
Wonder what Dr. Phil thinks about that...
"The shades go down"
Really??? You think so? Should I have taken her home and baked her cookies instead?
She needed to know that if you scream to get out of something, it's not going to be a party on the other side. And like I said, I've never had to do that again.
15 month... she is not crying just to anoy you... :evil: but for some other reason maybe?
And with that signal you gave you have learned her to ignore people if it is not going in the right way.
restaurants are delicate places to take little children out for a dinner.
They need to be patient but cannot understand the fact that food ain't ready in a minute.
You want to go to a restaurant, your child just wants to eat.
But hey, it is your way and you claim it worked.
I was just amazed by your way of acting to such a little child. Or was she 15 years and did i read it wrongfully :?:
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Simple option if a baby's getting on your nerves in a public place = walk away from it.
That fella in the picture looks like a right miserable tosser. He looks like the sort of person that dresses in a babies nappie and has his wife spank him for being a bad boy.
I could not get the CNN video of the man's behavior to work. If a crying child stresses him out that badly, he should try taking a GABA supplement for his anxiety. I doubt the jail will have any of that, however. When that guy goes to jail, if the inmates find out he hit a baby, well, I'm sure he'll get it.
Sometimes when I am in a store and a parent ignores their crying child, I wonder if the parent does not hear it b/c they are so used to it? Is it wrong for the parent to ignore the crying child? What if the child is hurting for example? One time, I was in the grocery store and I heard a boy (maybe 3) say, "Mommy, I have to poop." She completely ignored him. He repeatedly screamed it over and over. I thought that was mean on her part.
I have bad nerves and if a child cries in a store, I try to tune it out. I do carry earplugs for concerts, maybe I could put them in (or my mp3 player) at those times.
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Maybe I'm just a sick motherfucker.. but I got a little chuckle out of the article. I know its wrong, but you know its what people are thinking in their minds when they are shopping in a store and a kid won't shut the hell up.. The old man just unrightfully played it out.
My mother never would have stood for me crying in the store. She'd take me out to the car and yell at me until I'd shut the hell up.
I do have a childhood memory of misbehaving in a mall, causing her to smack me in the stomach. I was about four. First time in my life I got the wind knocked out of me. I was laying on the floor of the mall unable to speak.. I did stop fucking around though. lol
Maybe I'm just a sick motherfucker.. but I got a little chuckle out of the article. I know its wrong, but you know its what people are thinking in their minds when they are shopping in a store and a kid won't shut the hell up.. The old man just unrightfully played it out.
My mother never would have stood for me crying in the store. She'd take me out to the car and yell at me until I'd shut the hell up.
I do have a childhood memory of misbaving in a mall causing her to smack me in the stomach. First time in my life I got the wind knocked out of me. I was laying on the floor of the mall unable to speak.. I did stop fucking around though. lol
What a great memory!
A few good smacks never hurt me. My mum had 5 kids and says we never used to carry on in public. We knew if we really fucked around, we got a smack on the bum. I'm not saying that's the solution to this problem though.....I was just talking generally.
The restaurant, however is a different story. I've only had to leave the restaurant with one of my daughters one time. She was 15 months old and crying in the restaurant, so I left my husband and other children in the restaurant to finish their meals, while I took my daughter out to the car, strapped her in her car seat and stared straight ahead of me out the window until 30 minutes later when my family was ready to leave. I didn't speak to her the entire time we were in the car except when we first left the restaurant and I told her we would sit and wait in the car until everyone else was finished with dinner since she couldn't control herself in the restaurant. She never misbehaved in a restaurant after that incident.
Exactly what my mom would do. It was an inconvienince to her, but this type of stuff should be planned when you have kids. Remove the child from the situation to a private location such as a car and stress to them, life is not centered around them. I'm pretty sure it worked for me.
People who let their kids scream in public are going to have the kids grow up and scream their unrealistic, self centered needs to the other adults around them.
I know everyone raises their children differently, but thats why there's a contrast between selfish and giving people in this world.
My childhood friends whos parents let them do what they want are self-centered tools now. The ones who got discipline, even physically to a harmless extent are kind and giving people who have their shit straight now.
I forgot something. I used to act out more in front of my mom than my dad because my mom didn't scare me. It's like when I was around her I could finally unwind. My dad would have no problem threatening to kill me, beating me up, hitting me when I'm still in the hospital after open heart surgery etc., threatening to beat me up if I took out a nail wrong and accidentally hurt myself I'll beat you up, and then I'll take you to the hospital. I took his threats seriously as he took as many chances as possible to show me he was physically stronger, and that I had no recourse. He LOVED it!
It's funny that people laugh at memories of being hit. I truly can not comprehend that.
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I forgot something. I used to act out more in front of my mom than my dad because my mom didn't scare me. It's like when I was around her I could finally unwind. My dad would have no problem threatening to kill me, beating me up, hitting me when I'm still in the hospital after open heart surgery etc., threatening to beat me up if I took out a nail wrong and accidentally hurt myself I'll beat you up, and then I'll take you to the hospital. I took his threats seriously as he took as many chances as possible to show me he was physically stronger, and that I had no recourse. He LOVED it!
It's funny that people laugh at memories of being hit. I truly can not comprehend that.
Well, some cases are acceptable, in many its not. Phyical violence on someone for something petty or just the sake of it is not. My parents never left marks and never anything that stung for more than a few seconds. It was more for shock factor letting me know that they meant business. I deserved to have the wind knocked out of me that time. I was rolling a matchbox car around the floor of the mall, causing people to almost trip, ignoring my moms requests to stop.. My mom didn't intend to knock the wind out of me. I was fine a minute or two later... we recently had a laugh about it. I told her I was scarred mentally for life. ..though, obviously it was traumatic for me if I still remember it 26 years later in detail, and to this day I mean business when I enter a mall.
did the cnn video (that i can't see for some reason) show him actually slapping her? was it walmart's security camera's video?
the only video I found looked like a news video, showing him twitching in court. http://law.rightpundits.com/?p=788
he looks like a mean grouch. He would not have to wear a costume to play in "the grinch who stole Christmas!"
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I would like to slap the shit out of people who think it's okay to talk on their cell phone while they are standing in the checkout line and those damn nextel phones :x BEEP Hey Rufus did you get those 2x4'sBEEP Yeah Boss
I find it interesting that much of the talk centers around annoying children, almost as if justifying the man's behavior. He assaulted a human being. No excuse for it. You don't get to hit people that annoy you.
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Yeah, I hear you. I hate when parents don't discipline their kids. But yeah that guy was totally out of line. :evil:
yup the world revolves you and your children and the rest of us be damned - that is the sentiment on every post of the parents on here but i'm the bad guy because I don't like it when parents do nothing as their children act out and create scenes in public places.
and boy saying i can't understand it is very condescending but thanks - hope you teach that to your children.
How did I insult you? I hope you didn’t get the impression I was talking about kicking you in the face!
I once sat thru a six hour flight with a SCREAMING two year old…the poor parents tried EVERYTHING imaginable, and could not get the child to stop. While it was possibly the most aggravating thing I’ve ever been thru, I would not look at it as bad parenting or a misbehaving child. There was obviously something wrong, and I felt terrible for the parents having to deal with condemning looks from other passengers on top of the stress of knowing their kid was in discomfort. And that is the point – you have no idea why the child is crying, nor what the parents have tried or not tried to make it stop / what works best for that particular kid…the lack of empathy and self-important attitude of ‘not wanting to hear a child crying’ makes an already difficult situation a lot more difficult. It comes off as seriously callous to say you don’t want to hear a child cry. Like…have a fucking heart, man! It’s a KID.
For the record; I agree that the restaurant/movie situation is completely different. The key being that it is possible to leave and return once the kid has calmed down. But I’ll be godamned if I’m going to leave a cart full of groceries and then have to try again later (and by this logic, possibly starve to death), just so that you don’t have to listen to a kid cry for a minute or two while in public. Suck it up. Seriously.
If you are simply saying you condemn parents that dont' do anything about it, fine...but that's backpeddling - you have made much broader statements thruout this thread.
I know it's kind of off the topic, but noise canceling headphones are the best investment I ever made. Especially if you are a person who travels a lot.
i don't think we are talking about a child simply "crying", at least I haven't been - the behavior that i think this thread talks about is more the unruly, 5-10 minutes of just flat out pure evil ear-splitting temper tantrums that are a huge disruption to anyone and everyone. obviously i think there is a distinction between normal child behavior and disruptions of this nature. maybe that is why this thread has taken a turn for the worse because the definitions of what i am referring to and what parents here are referring to are two different things.
I don't buy that for one second.
You might have to buy them before you go to Wal Mart. Word on the street is that it is crazy noisy up in that place!
I really didn't mean to be disrespectful....I just get a kick out of people who have no clue what it's like, and seem to think it is so simple.
I can recall one incident coming back from Nantucket, Mass when my daughter was 4 and we had to stop in Laguardia Airport, NJ. We sat on that tarmac for 4 hours and I had to hold my daughter in arms through bathroom issues etc. It was dead silence on that plane except for a few passengers whining about why and when we were going to leave. I just held her, talked to her and answered about a 1000 questions she had until the plane FINALLY took off. It's at that time she finally fell asleep, upon arrival in DC the passengers around us all came by and thanked me for being so calm and patient with my daughter.
I thought nothing of it until on my way home, I thought about all that happened on our trip and it amazed me how well it turned out. So parents/parents to be and those watching children sometimes what it may take is a little patience.
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Not to be an asshole but that's some serious psychological warfar you have put on a 15 month old child's mind...
Wonder what Dr. Phil thinks about that...
Really??? You think so? Should I have taken her home and baked her cookies instead?
She needed to know that if you scream to get out of something, it's not going to be a party on the other side. And like I said, I've never had to do that again.
Sometimes when things get crazy I crack a joke with my daughter ex:....Cure For a Bad Day
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Really??? You think so? Should I have taken her home and baked her cookies instead?
She needed to know that if you scream to get out of something, it's not going to be a party on the other side. And like I said, I've never had to do that again.[/quote]
I think I would have done the same thing that you did.
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i just need to say
I'm a twin, and there is an image of me and my twin looking at the camera in our matching onesies, and we are so happy like we are laughing.
The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
15 month... she is not crying just to anoy you... :evil: but for some other reason maybe?
And with that signal you gave you have learned her to ignore people if it is not going in the right way.
restaurants are delicate places to take little children out for a dinner.
They need to be patient but cannot understand the fact that food ain't ready in a minute.
You want to go to a restaurant, your child just wants to eat.
But hey, it is your way and you claim it worked.
I was just amazed by your way of acting to such a little child. Or was she 15 years and did i read it wrongfully :?:
That fella in the picture looks like a right miserable tosser. He looks like the sort of person that dresses in a babies nappie and has his wife spank him for being a bad boy.
Sometimes when I am in a store and a parent ignores their crying child, I wonder if the parent does not hear it b/c they are so used to it? Is it wrong for the parent to ignore the crying child? What if the child is hurting for example? One time, I was in the grocery store and I heard a boy (maybe 3) say, "Mommy, I have to poop." She completely ignored him. He repeatedly screamed it over and over. I thought that was mean on her part.
I have bad nerves and if a child cries in a store, I try to tune it out. I do carry earplugs for concerts, maybe I could put them in (or my mp3 player) at those times.
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
My mother never would have stood for me crying in the store. She'd take me out to the car and yell at me until I'd shut the hell up.
I do have a childhood memory of misbehaving in a mall, causing her to smack me in the stomach. I was about four. First time in my life I got the wind knocked out of me. I was laying on the floor of the mall unable to speak.. I did stop fucking around though. lol
A few good smacks never hurt me. My mum had 5 kids and says we never used to carry on in public. We knew if we really fucked around, we got a smack on the bum. I'm not saying that's the solution to this problem though.....I was just talking generally.
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People who let their kids scream in public are going to have the kids grow up and scream their unrealistic, self centered needs to the other adults around them.
I know everyone raises their children differently, but thats why there's a contrast between selfish and giving people in this world.
My childhood friends whos parents let them do what they want are self-centered tools now. The ones who got discipline, even physically to a harmless extent are kind and giving people who have their shit straight now.
It's funny that people laugh at memories of being hit. I truly can not comprehend that.
The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
Well, some cases are acceptable, in many its not. Phyical violence on someone for something petty or just the sake of it is not. My parents never left marks and never anything that stung for more than a few seconds. It was more for shock factor letting me know that they meant business. I deserved to have the wind knocked out of me that time. I was rolling a matchbox car around the floor of the mall, causing people to almost trip, ignoring my moms requests to stop.. My mom didn't intend to knock the wind out of me. I was fine a minute or two later... we recently had a laugh about it. I told her I was scarred mentally for life.
the only video I found looked like a news video, showing him twitching in court.
http://law.rightpundits.com/?p=788
he looks like a mean grouch. He would not have to wear a costume to play in "the grinch who stole Christmas!"
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
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