10 club members get the nose bleeds 08/23/09

weekapaug19

heather_honey wrote:

Scott36 wrote:

Can Santos or someone else clarify how bad the Philly tickets will be? I will have practically the worst pair they give out, and I really don't want to be stuck in the 400-level. For now I'm going to assume this was a one time mistake, but I'm still a little concerned. Everyone was saying how the 10C always takes care of their members and never gives out bad seats, so I went ahead and bought for the 10/31 show. Then the buy button was up for over 24 hours and a tons of people probably bought tickets. If they were only able to do this because seats are going to be in the 400-level, there would be no point in buying 10C seating. 400-level seats will be going below face the week of the shows, so I certainly hope the 10C will not be sticking members up there. I'd just like to know what sections the 10C blocks of tickets are in.

(More) Philly threads are in the making already. They worded the Philly pre-sale to prepare us for 10c seats not being as good as usual, I thought. Seeing the locations for Chi-1 definitely has me prepared for nosebleeds in Philly (411xxx). I'm in the building though and, to me, that's all that matters.

that would only be true for the 1st and 4th show, right? the original 2 shows should be normal 10C seating

pjbugs007

my number is good enough or bad enough to get me on the floor...the back of the floor! heheh thats where ill be:)

Lauri

A satellite forever orbiting wrote:

Lauri wrote:

don't people care about just 'being there?'

obviously not. thats why the ticket-broker industry exists.

oh I actually didn't write that, I was responding to that quote from someone else.

RC153010

post your numbers and seats and we will be able to c if mookie vedder scamed us. Mine is 308 i was siting in 105. Please do the same so we can figure it out.

my2hands

if my fan club seats were in ther nose bleeds i would be pissed... most people pay the $20 a year for acceess to better tickets...

i called the 10c when the 10/31 philly announcement came with the starmge wording and i asked him about it.. he said "pearl jam will have the best seats in the house, just the fan cub area will expand and be larger"

so i better not be upstairs, fuck that

RC153010

what is your fan club number that does noting for me, just the first three digits and where were your seats

pjhawks

Spectrum virtual seating - as long as not in the 400 sections all seats are pretty good there.

http://www.seats3d.com/mv/comcast_spect ... age_end_1/

qcrete

i went to the show on sun night 08/23/09 also

drove 12 hrs to Chicago -- got there went to ten club window got my tickets and checked out the floor plan -- i noticed i was in section 114 12 rows back on Mike's side

my ten club number is #139,xxx so i usually get seats on the floor anywhere from row 6 to 25 -- at that point i was upset but more disappointed i was not on the floor

then i go in to the show and head for my seats -- i had a great view of the band esp. Mike -- now i know that sometimes floor seats are not all that, esp. if your in the back sections of the floor

so i just want to say THANK YOU TEN CLUB for all you do & for making my night in Chicago a night to remember

Santos L. Halper

SL169704 wrote:

So, is Santos a representative of 10C?

If so, can you please give an explanation for the Sunday 10C seating debacle?

Here is why you need to do this: people are really pissed. MANY, MANY people traveled to that show, and got upper deck, way in back seats, when day of show there were decent seats on TM. Trust me, NO ONE around me in 303 was happy. They may not be posting their disappointment here, but there were a lot of very unhappy people. This incident tends to throw into doubt any reason to travel to ANY show with 10C tickets. Put yourself in the shoes of the people who traveled for days and spent hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Imagine going into the venue, up three escalators, and out to your seats, and realizing that 95% of the people in the building had better tickets. You can't blame people for being pissed. These are hard core fans, not someone who liked "Alive" fifteen years ago and are checking PJ off their band bucket list.

If the explanation is that someone fucked up, fine. Just let everyone know that this is *not* going to be what to expect going forward.

sure. Your member number 415XXX, for a show like Chicago, NYC, Jersey, Boston, or LA will put you in the back. or up top. Go to Salt Lake City, Virginia Beach, Vancouver, Portland or any other small market city and you'll be about 15-20 rows from the front with that number. Seats are allocated by seniority (except for the lottery rows 1-2 and 9-10...anyone could get those).
Always best to email us at <!-- e --><a href="mailto:info@tenclub.net">info@tenclub.net</a><!-- e --> with questions.
slh

Motown322

qcrete wrote:

i went to the show on sun night 08/23/09 also

drove 12 hrs to Chicago -- got there went to ten club window got my tickets and checked out the floor plan -- i noticed i was in section 114 12 rows back on Mike's side

my ten club number is #139,xxx so i usually get seats on the floor anywhere from row 6 to 25 -- at that point i was upset but more disappointed i was not on the floor

then i go in to the show and head for my seats -- i had a great view of the band esp. Mike -- now i know that sometimes floor seats are not all that, esp. if your in the back sections of the floor

so i just want to say THANK YOU TEN CLUB for all you do & for making my night in Chicago a night to remember

Same range of emotions for me as well... when I got the tix from the woman at the window I was kinda bummed (but not surprised since I knew there were a shitload of 10C people hitting this show. I was a couple rows behind you in the same section. 10C # 141xxx. They were incredible seats IMO. Much different perspective from what I normally have, but completely cool.

SL169704

Santos L. Halper wrote:

SL169704 wrote:

So, is Santos a representative of 10C?

If so, can you please give an explanation for the Sunday 10C seating debacle?

Here is why you need to do this: people are really pissed. MANY, MANY people traveled to that show, and got upper deck, way in back seats, when day of show there were decent seats on TM. Trust me, NO ONE around me in 303 was happy. They may not be posting their disappointment here, but there were a lot of very unhappy people. This incident tends to throw into doubt any reason to travel to ANY show with 10C tickets. Put yourself in the shoes of the people who traveled for days and spent hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Imagine going into the venue, up three escalators, and out to your seats, and realizing that 95% of the people in the building had better tickets. You can't blame people for being pissed. These are hard core fans, not someone who liked "Alive" fifteen years ago and are checking PJ off their band bucket list.

If the explanation is that someone fucked up, fine. Just let everyone know that this is *not* going to be what to expect going forward.

sure. Your member number 415XXX, for a show like Chicago, NYC, Jersey, Boston, or LA will put you in the back. or up top. Go to Salt Lake City, Virginia Beach, Vancouver, Portland or any other small market city and you'll be about 15-20 rows from the front with that number. Seats are allocated by seniority (except for the lottery rows 1-2 and 9-10...anyone could get those).
Always best to email us at <!-- e --><a href="mailto:info@tenclub.net">info@tenclub.net</a><!-- e --> with questions.
slh

First, thanks for responding.

As you can see by my username, I USED to be 169704. Yes, I let it lapse. My fault.

Here is are my beefs:

1) There needs to be some cutoff of 10C tickets BEFORE they get to the point in any venue that they are much worse than Ticketmaster average. I would guess that if you surveyed 10C members, they would rather get shut out of the 10C sale for a show and have the opportunity to try either TM or some other method, than to be unknowingly stuck in the rafters in the back of a huge arena. Especially when TM had tickets available all along that were better in most cases than a large number of 10C tickets. As someone pointed out, for a die hard fan, there are always ways to get tickets, but if you are going TM or a broker, you get to CHOOSE whether you'd rather take nosebleed or sit at home watching DVD's and drinking cheap beer.

2) The entire "we aren't going to tell you your ticket location until day of show" is totally useless. What is the point? To keep people from scalping them? They do anyway. It is a fact of life. If you don't want to reveal the exact locations, at least have some kind of alert that lets people know they were given back of the bus seating and they may not want to bother traveling 1000 miles to see the show. Obviously there is a judgment call as to what is a crappy seat and what isn't, but I don't think anyone would argue that third level all the way in the back of the United Center is a seat worth traveling for. Unfortunately, THOUSANDS of fans did just that.


You still have time to prevent a similar debacle in Philly. If, as we all suspect, there will be 10C seats in the upper rafters there, you should tell the affected people NOW, before they spend $$$$ traveling to Philly with the expectation that they well have halfway decent seats.

What incentive do I have to continue with 10C when the seats we get are much, much worse than we would have had through TM? Because I accidentally let my number lapse, there is virtually no chance of ever getting a better seat than I can get through TM. As you certainly know, as time goes on, more people are members of 10C, and thus even if I keep the membership another five years I am unlikely to ever get a decent seat, because the members ahead of me are always going to be ahead of me.

BTW, thanks for STABBING me with the SLC thing. BECAUSE I HAD 10C SEATS FOR CHICAGO 1, I skipped the SLC sale. Hey, I've got seats for Chicago, why do I need SLC? I don't have the cash to wander around to multiple shows looking for a great seat. I thought I was covered, as I suspect many others did. Now, of course, 10C for SLC is long gone, and TM for SLC has been on sale for weeks.

RC153010

I wento to virgina beach. I was not in the 15 row or 20th row. My number is 308. Therefore, bs

demetrios

Santos L. Halper wrote:

SL169704 wrote:

So, is Santos a representative of 10C?

If so, can you please give an explanation for the Sunday 10C seating debacle?

Here is why you need to do this: people are really pissed. MANY, MANY people traveled to that show, and got upper deck, way in back seats, when day of show there were decent seats on TM. Trust me, NO ONE around me in 303 was happy. They may not be posting their disappointment here, but there were a lot of very unhappy people. This incident tends to throw into doubt any reason to travel to ANY show with 10C tickets. Put yourself in the shoes of the people who traveled for days and spent hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Imagine going into the venue, up three escalators, and out to your seats, and realizing that 95% of the people in the building had better tickets. You can't blame people for being pissed. These are hard core fans, not someone who liked "Alive" fifteen years ago and are checking PJ off their band bucket list.

If the explanation is that someone fucked up, fine. Just let everyone know that this is *not* going to be what to expect going forward.

sure. Your member number 415XXX, for a show like Chicago, NYC, Jersey, Boston, or LA will put you in the back. or up top. Go to Salt Lake City, Virginia Beach, Vancouver, Portland or any other small market city and you'll be about 15-20 rows from the front with that number. Seats are allocated by seniority (except for the lottery rows 1-2 and 9-10...anyone could get those).
Always best to email us at <!-- e --><a href="mailto:info@tenclub.net">info@tenclub.net</a><!-- e --> with questions.
slh

How about the show's in Philly this October? What would a 161xxx get? Say on Halloween Night?

RC153010

That will put you in the football stadium. lol

Santos L. Halper

SL169704 wrote:

Santos L. Halper wrote:

SL169704 wrote:

So, is Santos a representative of 10C?

If so, can you please give an explanation for the Sunday 10C seating debacle?

Here is why you need to do this: people are really pissed. MANY, MANY people traveled to that show, and got upper deck, way in back seats, when day of show there were decent seats on TM. Trust me, NO ONE around me in 303 was happy. They may not be posting their disappointment here, but there were a lot of very unhappy people. This incident tends to throw into doubt any reason to travel to ANY show with 10C tickets. Put yourself in the shoes of the people who traveled for days and spent hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Imagine going into the venue, up three escalators, and out to your seats, and realizing that 95% of the people in the building had better tickets. You can't blame people for being pissed. These are hard core fans, not someone who liked "Alive" fifteen years ago and are checking PJ off their band bucket list.

If the explanation is that someone fucked up, fine. Just let everyone know that this is *not* going to be what to expect going forward.

sure. Your member number 415XXX, for a show like Chicago, NYC, Jersey, Boston, or LA will put you in the back. or up top. Go to Salt Lake City, Virginia Beach, Vancouver, Portland or any other small market city and you'll be about 15-20 rows from the front with that number. Seats are allocated by seniority (except for the lottery rows 1-2 and 9-10...anyone could get those).
Always best to email us at <!-- e --><a href="mailto:info@tenclub.net">info@tenclub.net</a><!-- e --> with questions.
slh

First, thanks for responding.

As you can see by my username, I USED to be 169704. Yes, I let it lapse. My fault.

Here is are my beefs:

1) There needs to be some cutoff of 10C tickets BEFORE they get to the point in any venue that they are much worse than Ticketmaster average. I would guess that if you surveyed 10C members, they would rather get shut out of the 10C sale for a show and have the opportunity to try either TM or some other method, than to be unknowingly stuck in the rafters in the back of a huge arena. Especially when TM had tickets available all along that were better in most cases than a large number of 10C tickets. As someone pointed out, for a die hard fan, there are always ways to get tickets, but if you are going TM or a broker, you get to CHOOSE whether you'd rather take nosebleed or sit at home watching DVD's and drinking cheap beer.

2) The entire "we aren't going to tell you your ticket location until day of show" is totally useless. What is the point? To keep people from scalping them? They do anyway. It is a fact of life. If you don't want to reveal the exact locations, at least have some kind of alert that lets people know they were given back of the bus seating and they may not want to bother traveling 1000 miles to see the show. Obviously there is a judgment call as to what is a crappy seat and what isn't, but I don't think anyone would argue that third level all the way in the back of the United Center is a seat worth traveling for. Unfortunately, THOUSANDS of fans did just that.


You still have time to prevent a similar debacle in Philly. If, as we all suspect, there will be 10C seats in the upper rafters there, you should tell the affected people NOW, before they spend $$$$ traveling to Philly with the expectation that they well have halfway decent seats.

What incentive do I have to continue with 10C when the seats we get are much, much worse than we would have had through TM? Because I accidentally let my number lapse, there is virtually no chance of ever getting a better seat than I can get through TM. As you certainly know, as time goes on, more people are members of 10C, and thus even if I keep the membership another five years I am unlikely to ever get a decent seat, because the members ahead of me are always going to be ahead of me.

BTW, thanks for STABBING me with the SLC thing. BECAUSE I HAD 10C SEATS FOR CHICAGO 1, I skipped the SLC sale. Hey, I've got seats for Chicago, why do I need SLC? I don't have the cash to wander around to multiple shows looking for a great seat. I thought I was covered, as I suspect many others did. Now, of course, 10C for SLC is long gone, and TM for SLC has been on sale for weeks.

Actually, 169704 is your USER ID...it's an internal number that's generated if you haven't created a username for the board, has absolutely nothing to do with your membership number...your old member number was 325XXX that you let lapse.
We instituted the lottery to give ten club members like yourself a shot at better seats.
Once again, if you have specific questions/complaints about tickets please send an email to <!-- e --><a href="mailto:info@tenclub.net">info@tenclub.net</a><!-- e --> or better yet, <!-- e --><a href="mailto:tickets@tenclub.net">tickets@tenclub.net</a><!-- e -->
back to work.
slh

RC153010

I was not on the floor in virgina beach beach. Therefore, bs. i was in the back with 308 number.

RC153010

Who is skimming the tickets? I was at virgina beack and i got nothing. Way back, back back back

DewieCox

SL169704 wrote:

Santos L. Halper wrote:

SL169704 wrote:

So, is Santos a representative of 10C?

If so, can you please give an explanation for the Sunday 10C seating debacle?

Here is why you need to do this: people are really pissed. MANY, MANY people traveled to that show, and got upper deck, way in back seats, when day of show there were decent seats on TM. Trust me, NO ONE around me in 303 was happy. They may not be posting their disappointment here, but there were a lot of very unhappy people. This incident tends to throw into doubt any reason to travel to ANY show with 10C tickets. Put yourself in the shoes of the people who traveled for days and spent hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Imagine going into the venue, up three escalators, and out to your seats, and realizing that 95% of the people in the building had better tickets. You can't blame people for being pissed. These are hard core fans, not someone who liked "Alive" fifteen years ago and are checking PJ off their band bucket list.

If the explanation is that someone fucked up, fine. Just let everyone know that this is *not* going to be what to expect going forward.

sure. Your member number 415XXX, for a show like Chicago, NYC, Jersey, Boston, or LA will put you in the back. or up top. Go to Salt Lake City, Virginia Beach, Vancouver, Portland or any other small market city and you'll be about 15-20 rows from the front with that number. Seats are allocated by seniority (except for the lottery rows 1-2 and 9-10...anyone could get those).
Always best to email us at <!-- e --><a href="mailto:info@tenclub.net">info@tenclub.net</a><!-- e --> with questions.
slh

First, thanks for responding.

As you can see by my username, I USED to be 169704. Yes, I let it lapse. My fault.

Here is are my beefs:

1) There needs to be some cutoff of 10C tickets BEFORE they get to the point in any venue that they are much worse than Ticketmaster average. I would guess that if you surveyed 10C members, they would rather get shut out of the 10C sale for a show and have the opportunity to try either TM or some other method, than to be unknowingly stuck in the rafters in the back of a huge arena. Especially when TM had tickets available all along that were better in most cases than a large number of 10C tickets. As someone pointed out, for a die hard fan, there are always ways to get tickets, but if you are going TM or a broker, you get to CHOOSE whether you'd rather take nosebleed or sit at home watching DVD's and drinking cheap beer.

2) The entire "we aren't going to tell you your ticket location until day of show" is totally useless. What is the point? To keep people from scalping them? They do anyway. It is a fact of life. If you don't want to reveal the exact locations, at least have some kind of alert that lets people know they were given back of the bus seating and they may not want to bother traveling 1000 miles to see the show. Obviously there is a judgment call as to what is a crappy seat and what isn't, but I don't think anyone would argue that third level all the way in the back of the United Center is a seat worth traveling for. Unfortunately, THOUSANDS of fans did just that.


You still have time to prevent a similar debacle in Philly. If, as we all suspect, there will be 10C seats in the upper rafters there, you should tell the affected people NOW, before they spend $$$$ traveling to Philly with the expectation that they well have halfway decent seats.

What incentive do I have to continue with 10C when the seats we get are much, much worse than we would have had through TM? Because I accidentally let my number lapse, there is virtually no chance of ever getting a better seat than I can get through TM. As you certainly know, as time goes on, more people are members of 10C, and thus even if I keep the membership another five years I am unlikely to ever get a decent seat, because the members ahead of me are always going to be ahead of me.

BTW, thanks for STABBING me with the SLC thing. BECAUSE I HAD 10C SEATS FOR CHICAGO 1, I skipped the SLC sale. Hey, I've got seats for Chicago, why do I need SLC? I don't have the cash to wander around to multiple shows looking for a great seat. I thought I was covered, as I suspect many others did. Now, of course, 10C for SLC is long gone, and TM for SLC has been on sale for weeks.

So you jumped the gun and bought tix as soon as they announced? It's people like you that made all the 10c seats that much worse. I have no problem with people goin to as many shows as possible, but it seems like everybody woulda been alot closer if everybody that JUST HAD to travel for the Chicago show woulda just been patient and waited for shows in their neck of the woods.

Santos L. Halper

RC153010 wrote:

I wento to virgina beach. I was not in the 15 row or 20th row. My number is 308. Therefore, bs

gee willikers...ya got me...you were probably behind a post in the basement.
was just throwing out an example of a show with a smaller amount of members attending.
Once again, if you have complaints/questions about tickets etc, send an email to <!-- e --><a href="mailto:info@tenclub.net">info@tenclub.net</a><!-- e --> or <!-- e --><a href="mailto:tickets@tenclub.net">tickets@tenclub.net</a><!-- e -->
slh

pj.uw.laura

see_the_world wrote:

Lauri wrote:

it seems from this thread, that people with relatively low numbers were in the nosebleeds too.

Turned out that wasn't the case. The guy with the "low 100s" number who spent yesterday bleating on here actually has a mid-400s number.

It seemed to be the case for some people. In section 318 I talked to 2 different people who joined in 1999. I don't know what their numbers were, but they should have been better than to be stuck up in my section (with my 404xxx number).