Overblown Criticism of The Fixer

Flagg

Most of No Code is still growing on me to this day. I recognize the greatness, but I don't listen to it all that much.

YIELD never had to.

Binaural did - but I love it now and it was the 2000 boots that did that.

Riot Act - Never grew, never will

Avocado - Loved from the start and still do

Backspacer - We'll see.

That was rambling, but everything post Vitalogy has had such a different effect on me and everyone else here.

Snoopy Died For Our Sins

norm wrote:

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

i just don't expect this type of shit from them

ah but isn't that was no code (using your example) was...something unexpected?


if you don't like it...fine...but shouldn't you pass judgement after you've heard it in the context of the album? many times i've heard a single from a new album (by any band) and didn't think much of it...then i heard the album and totally got it

all i'm saying is give it a chance before passing final judgement

Word to yer mother

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soulsinging

metsfan wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

What is it with all you people refusing to believe that something can SOUND poppy and still have dark lyrics? Satan's Bed sounds poppy, period. The fact that the lyrics are a little fucked up doesn't change the way the music sounds. So is your problem the music or the lyrics?

its just the overall vibe of this. it screams top 40 and target commerical.

Well, we knew there'd be a Target commercial months ago, so what's so new and upsetting about that? And why is the prospect of them cracking the top 40 so awful to everyone? They walked home with armloads of MTV awards back in the day... the definition of mainstream appeal. And almost all their albums debut in the billboard top 10.

South of Seattle

soulsinging wrote:

PJammin' wrote:

this just in...bubblegummer britney spears to open for pearl jam at the spectrum. FACT.

This just in... soulsinging will be going to the bathroom a few times during the opening set, but not for the 'piss break' everyone around here loves so much.

LikeAnOcean

metsfan wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

Have you even heard the other 4 songs out there?

nope i haven't and wont till i get the new cd. i like to listen to the songs as a whole.

Three of their best slower songs written to date. Don't worry.

South of Seattle

metsfan wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

Have you even heard the other 4 songs out there?

nope i haven't and wont till i get the new cd. i like to listen to the songs as a whole.

By that reasoning, you shouldn't be listening to the Fixer or Got Some either

U R A Crazy Breed

soulsinging wrote:

What is it with all you people refusing to believe that something can SOUND poppy and still have dark lyrics? Satan's Bed sounds poppy, period. The fact that the lyrics are a little fucked up doesn't change the way the music sounds. So is your problem the music or the lyrics?

well i have heard betterman on top 40 radio but never Satan's bed...and the music is more raw...not studio refined nonabrasive conformity like the fixer sounds to me...and I'm talking music..not that the lyrics are Ed's best...and it's only one song...i don't own the album so i have no opinion or preconceived notion of what is to come..even after hearing Ed do a few new songs...I'll wait till i hear the full band versions.

norm

LikeAnOcean wrote:

metsfan wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

Have you even heard the other 4 songs out there?

nope i haven't and wont till i get the new cd. i like to listen to the songs as a whole.

Three of their best slower songs written to date. Don't worry.

you're assuming they're slow...perhaps ed slowed them down for his solo shows

Gary Carter

soulsinging wrote:

Well, we knew there'd be a Target commercial months ago, so what's so new and upsetting about that? And why is the prospect of them cracking the top 40 so awful to everyone? They walked home with armloads of MTV awards back in the day... the definition of mainstream appeal. And almost all their albums debut in the billboard top 10.

cause for years and years they said a big fuck you to the mainstream(radio, 12-16 year olds and everything else mainstream related). it just seems like there turning into the very thing they said fuck you to all these years.

U R A Crazy Breed

soulsinging wrote:

This just in... soulsinging will be going to the bathroom a few times during the opening set, but not for the 'piss break' everyone around here loves so much.

LikeAnOcean

norm wrote:

you're assuming they're slow...perhaps ed slowed them down for his solo shows

True.. if anything else, POWERFUL lyrics.

Snoopy Died For Our Sins

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

This just in... soulsinging will be going to the bathroom a few times during the opening set, but not for the 'piss break' everyone around here loves so much.

Nice one, but your avatar still makes me wanna fuckin' puke


Rage With The Machine................eeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :roll:

Gary Carter

South of Seattle wrote:

By that reasoning, you shouldn't be listening to the Fixer or Got Some either

yea well i had to see what the board was drooling over.

Back_Pedal

SM60026 wrote:

i was expecting more forward progression..more No Code type

Dude, I'm not trying to be a jerk I swear, but how is going back and recording music like they already recorded "forward progression?"

I don't think we've heard a song quite like "The Fixer" from PJ before, and I am freaking stoked about hearing something new. There's nothing wrong with a little Pop as long as it's done well, and this song is done WELL.

Just my thoughts...

\S/

I think he meant in the general spirit of No Code, which was a complete and total break from their previous sound.

tschav

by itself, it sounds radio-friendly
as part of the next album, I'm sure it won't strike as much a chord in the haters.

but, if it does piss off some of the fans here, we can only hope our 10C numbers get us closer to the stage when they leave us... :twisted:

and besides, I'm not gonna judge it until I hear it live.

U R A Crazy Breed

Snoopy Died For Our Sins wrote:

Nice one, but your avatar still makes me wanna fuckin' puke


Rage With The Machine................eeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :roll:

Rage rocked shit so hard even Pearl Jam couldn't touch it...so i don't know what the fuck you're talking about!!

U R A Crazy Breed

tschav wrote:

but, if it does piss off some of the fans here, we can only hope our 10C numbers get us closer to the stage when they leave us... :twisted:

if i had a fucking dollar for every time i heard that i could hire the band to play at my house...then i'd tell Ed as he wrote the set list..."no fixer please" :twisted:

alphawolf

PJammin' wrote:

this just in...bubblegummer britney spears to open for pearl jam at the spectrum. FACT.

A W E S O M E!!!!

HA-HA-HE-HE-HA-HA-HO!


p.s. the fixer is radical

and so is got some


cant wait to see amy, i mean britney, I MEAN EDDIE...

*wWHEEEWw*

Jeanwah

metsfan wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

What is it with all you people refusing to believe that something can SOUND poppy and still have dark lyrics? Satan's Bed sounds poppy, period. The fact that the lyrics are a little fucked up doesn't change the way the music sounds. So is your problem the music or the lyrics?

its just the overall vibe of this. it screams top 40 and target commerical.

OMG, this has got to be the first time you and I are in agreement.

All those times some people got on me about disagreeing with the Target partnership, people defending the band for trying to reach a new audience...and now that those some realize it's top 40 pop PJ is entering into, people are all of a sudden up in arms... How else is the band supposed to entice the teen generation? They've got to compete with the Jonas Bros!!

norm

Jeanwah wrote:

metsfan wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

What is it with all you people refusing to believe that something can SOUND poppy and still have dark lyrics? Satan's Bed sounds poppy, period. The fact that the lyrics are a little fucked up doesn't change the way the music sounds. So is your problem the music or the lyrics?

its just the overall vibe of this. it screams top 40 and target commerical.

OMG, this has got to be the first time you and I are in agreement.

All those times people got on me about disagreeing with Target and defending the band for trying to reach a new audience...and now that some realize it's top 40 pop PJ is entering into, people are all of a sudden up in arms... How else is the band supposed to entice the teen generation? They've got to compete with the Jonas Bros!!

jeanwah i've always respected your opinion and can understand why you feel a bit of disillusion with the perceived direction the might might be taking but tell me you didn't just compare pearl jam to the jonas brothers?

i mean i know you're pissed but c'mon