Overblown Criticism of The Fixer

U R A Crazy Breed

Vedd Hedd wrote:

You know exactly the reaction you were looking for. And you got it, and you act surprised.

This is not bubblegum pop music, it's slightly less abrasive than their usual stuff. But in saying it the way you did, you riled people up by insinuating that it's ok for them to like bubblegum pop, as if this was the case.

I don't expect an apology. I expect a thank you, for keeping yor opinoin at the top for everyone to see. Over and over and over and over.

U R A Crazy Breed thinks this song sucks.

i'm sorry you find deep, thought provoking music abrasive..and if i feel contempt for bubblegum that doesn't mean i feel it for the people who like it...it's just how I feel about it.

and gee.....seeing as most threads on this fucking board are based on opinion that rely upon feed back based on other peoples opinions i don't understand what your trying to say

Vedd Hedd

metsfan wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

"In Between Days"

"Just Like Heaven"

"Why can't I be with You"

Friday, I'm in Love!!!

Not upbeat and poppy???? Really???

while the vibe is upbeat/poppy the lyrics are hardly that way.


yesterday i got so old
i felt like i could die
yesterday i got so old
it made me want to cry
go on go on
just walk away
go on go on
your choice is made
go on go on
and disappear
go on go on
away from here

those lyrics are hardly upbeat/poppy

Have you read the lyrics to the fixer? Does it really scream pop?

I'll dig your grave

Gary Carter

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LikeAnOcean

metsfan wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

"In Between Days"

"Just Like Heaven"

"Why can't I be with You"

Friday, I'm in Love!!!

Not upbeat and poppy???? Really???

while the vibe is upbeat/poppy the lyrics are hardly that way.


yesterday i got so old
i felt like i could die
yesterday i got so old
it made me want to cry
go on go on
just walk away
go on go on
your choice is made
go on go on
and disappear
go on go on
away from here

those lyrics are hardly upbeat/poppy

"I’ll say your prayers I’ll take your side
I’ll burn as a way to make light
I’ll dig your grave
We'll dance and sing
What’s saved could be
One last lifetime"

Those aren't bad lyrics.. the begining starts off perhaps as through the perspective of a happy child.

Vedd Hedd

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

i'm sorry you find deep, thought provoking music abrasive..and if i feel contempt for bubblegum that doesn't mean i feel it for the people who like it...it's just how I feel about it.

and gee.....seeing as most threads on this fucking board are based on opinion that rely upon feed back based on other peoples opinions i don't understand what your trying to say

I dont find their other songs abrasive, but radio does. Have you heard "Save You" on the radio?

Thought provoking......I think this song IS thought provoking. I just don't hink you have thought about it cause you are too caught up on the sound. If you read the words, there is
more there than you give it credit for.

Not every song should be a Jeremy, long road, WWS. Some should be big waves, some should be lukins, and some should be fixers.

And you are free to your opinion, as am I. I just think you went about
making it in a way that rubbed people wrong.

U R A Crazy Breed

soulsinging wrote:

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

hey...whipping..Satan's bed....hail hail...save you...all upbeat fast tunes...not one of them sounds "poppy"

Are you kidding?

'Already! In Love!' how is that not a poppy chorus?

who made, who made up, made up the myth
that we were born to be covered in bliss?
who set the standard, born to be rich?
such fine examples, skinny little bitch
model, role model, roll some models in blood
get some flesh to stick, so they look like us
i shit and i stink, i'm real, join the club
i'd stop and talk, but i'm already in love


hahahahaha....yeah...that's so poppy :roll:

and musically it rocks the shit out of the fixer...that's the biggest part...it's like..where the fuck is Mike in this song?(fixer)

soulsinging

metsfan wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

"In Between Days"

"Just Like Heaven"

"Why can't I be with You"

Friday, I'm in Love!!!

Not upbeat and poppy???? Really???

while the vibe is upbeat/poppy the lyrics are hardly that way.


yesterday i got so old
i felt like i could die
yesterday i got so old
it made me want to cry
go on go on
just walk away
go on go on
your choice is made
go on go on
and disappear
go on go on
away from here

those lyrics are hardly upbeat/poppy

What's that got to do with anything? He said it sounds like the Cure, not that the lyrics are Cure lyrics. The fact is that the Cure have plenty of upbeat, poppy songs... a huge part of their success was their ability to blend pop songs with dark lyrics.

Vedd Hedd

metsfan wrote:

???

Sorry, bad quote. IPhone.

Gary Carter

LikeAnOcean wrote:

"I’ll say your prayers I’ll take your side
I’ll burn as a way to make light
I’ll dig your grave
We'll dance and sing
What’s saved could be
One last lifetime"

Those aren't bad lyrics.. the begining starts off perhaps as through the perspective of a happy child.

agreed up until those lyrics its all happy and stuff. i dont know i guess i wasn't expecting a top 40 pop hit where 12-16 year olds will go buy cd at there local target. i was expecting something along a combination of yield/no code/self titled

PJammin'

this just in...bubblegummer britney spears to open for pearl jam at the spectrum. FACT.

Evacuation Rules

soulsinging wrote:

Nickelback? When has Nickelback ever released anything that sounds remotely like this? If anything, they sound closer to Ten than The Fixer. Don't get me wrong, I detest Nickelback, but that's an absurd comparison.

Because everything poppy sounds like Nickelback. Don't you know that by now?

soulsinging

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

hey...whipping..Satan's bed....hail hail...save you...all upbeat fast tunes...not one of them sounds "poppy"

Are you kidding?

'Already! In Love!' how is that not a poppy chorus?

who made, who made up, made up the myth
that we were born to be covered in bliss?
who set the standard, born to be rich?
such fine examples, skinny little bitch
model, role model, roll some models in blood
get some flesh to stick, so they look like us
i shit and i stink, i'm real, join the club
i'd stop and talk, but i'm already in love


hahahahaha....yeah...that's so poppy :roll:

and musically it rocks the shit out of the fixer...that's the biggest part...it's like..where the fuck is Mike in this song?(fixer)

What is it with all you people refusing to believe that something can SOUND poppy and still have dark lyrics? Satan's Bed sounds poppy, period. The fact that the lyrics are a little fucked up doesn't change the way the music sounds. So is your problem the music or the lyrics?

Gary Carter

Vedd Hedd wrote:

metsfan wrote:

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Sorry, bad quote. IPhone.

haha, no worries

least you can quote on your iphone. i can't quote more then 1 person on my blackberry.

soulsinging

PJammin' wrote:

this just in...bubblegummer britney spears to open for pearl jam at the spectrum. FACT.

This just in... soulsinging will be going to the bathroom a few times during the opening set, but not for the 'piss break' everyone around here loves so much.

LikeAnOcean

metsfan wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

"I’ll say your prayers I’ll take your side
I’ll burn as a way to make light
I’ll dig your grave
We'll dance and sing
What’s saved could be
One last lifetime"

Those aren't bad lyrics.. the begining starts off perhaps as through the perspective of a happy child.

agreed up until those lyrics its all happy and stuff. i dont know i guess i wasn't expecting a top 40 pop hit where 12-16 year olds will go buy cd at there local target. i was expecting something along a combination of yield/no code/self titled

Have you even heard the other 4 songs out there?

Gonzo1977

Umm...Pretty much every Pearl Jam single has had to grow on me.

"Go" was even a vast departure from the sound of the Ten album.

"Courdory" was kind of a what the fuck is this kind of moment .

Don't even get me started on "Who You Are"

So to answer your question.....No I don't really remember a time when pj songs didn't have to grow on me.

I think that is required of good art.
It's meant to take you out of your comfort zone and be a little unfamiliar at first.

Gary Carter

soulsinging wrote:

What is it with all you people refusing to believe that something can SOUND poppy and still have dark lyrics? Satan's Bed sounds poppy, period. The fact that the lyrics are a little fucked up doesn't change the way the music sounds. So is your problem the music or the lyrics?

its just the overall vibe of this. it screams top 40 and target commerical.

norm

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

i just don't expect this type of shit from them

ah but isn't that was no code (using your example) was...something unexpected?


if you don't like it...fine...but shouldn't you pass judgement after you've heard it in the context of the album? many times i've heard a single from a new album (by any band) and didn't think much of it...then i heard the album and totally got it

all i'm saying is give it a chance before passing final judgement

Snoopy Died For Our Sins

the only album I totally fell in love with immediately was YIELD

I like 99.95% of Pearl Jam songs, too..............

Gary Carter

LikeAnOcean wrote:

Have you even heard the other 4 songs out there?

nope i haven't and wont till i get the new cd. i like to listen to the songs as a whole.