i dont mind songs growing on me, its just that the ones that do are usually the weirder ones. the quick, punky ones dont. they just kind of sit there. If i dont like those right away i wont ever.
But I want another song like LBC... you know, a droning organ, depressing verses about people dying, a chorus that steals from other, better songs, uninspired vocals. I want something that makes me want to slit my wrists, not something I can get excited to see in concert and pump my first and sing along to. Music is not supposed to be FUN for God's sakes, it's supposed to be depressing and soul-crushingly self-indulgent.
Seriuosly, when I have friends over and am making a party playlist, there's only a few PJ songs from their hundreds I can actually throw on it.. unless everyone is getting high, but that's another story.
Actually, you kind of ARE saying that it's wrong for people to like it. Look at your thread title and your first post. You can't be surprise that people are calling you on it.
It's not like you went into a random thread and said "I'm not a big fan."
i didn't say it was wrong of people to like bubblegum...is it wrong to ask them if they do?
i don't....that was just me saying "hey... i don't, do you?"
nowhere did i start acting like an elitist douche ....
I just get attacked because i have a conflicting opinion and some of the herd don't like that..oh fucking well..you want me to apologies for not being thrilled to death with a song? don't start holding your breath.
the day the single was released, you went on to the main web site of the band, and said that the new song is bubblegum pop music. What did you expect would happen?
I hated Evacuation when it first came out, and I still do. But odds are there was probably someone who liked it. Besides matt, that is.
The last thing I would do was accidentally ruin it. Or take that away from someone.
evacuation is miles better then this crap. least i know what my piss break/beer break song is.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Pearl Jam needs more fun, poppy songs. They've done ENOUGH experimenting.
Even though I don't care for The Fixer, I agree that fast upbeat songs are a good thing. But I don't see how you can say they've done ENOUGH experimenting. What have they experimented with? When have they ever stepped out of their comfort zone? I know there's Stupid Mop and stuff like that....but that was over 10 years ago. They never do things like instrumentals, fading one song into another, or orchestrations (sans Parting Ways). They never use non-musical overdubs like the voices on Dark Side of the Moon or the radio stations on Queens of the Stone Age's Songs for the Deaf. They never use any instruments outside of guitar, bass, drums, and B3 except for novelty songs like Soon Forget and Bugs. They would never completely jump genres (like Zeppelin with Hog Dog or The Beastie Boys Country album). So where's the experimenting?
But I want another song like LBC... you know, a droning organ, depressing verses about people dying, a chorus that steals from other, better songs, uninspired vocals. I want something that makes me want to slit my wrists, not something I can get excited to see in concert and pump my first and sing along to. Music is not supposed to be FUN for God's sakes, it's supposed to be depressing and soul-crushingly self-indulgent.
Seriuosly, when I have friends over and am making a party playlist, there's only a few PJ songs from their hundreds I can actually throw on it.. unless everyone is getting high, but that's another story.
Yeah, there's a lot of great material for a good stoner mix, but I've found it incredibly difficult to put together mixes that people will listen to that aren't familiar with the band. Efforts to convince two gf's in a row that this is a band worth listening to have failed. They're the only band I listen to that has that problem.
Yeah, there's a lot of great material for a good stoner mix, but I've found it incredibly difficult to put together mixes that people will listen to that aren't familiar with the band. Efforts to convince two gf's in a row that this is a band worth listening to have failed. They're the only band I listen to that has that problem.
i don't see it as a problem....it's the reason i love this band...they don't make shit that sounds like other bands...they were more concerned with making art than pulling in fans...which in turn gave us their best material.
Actually, you kind of ARE saying that it's wrong for people to like it. Look at your thread title and your first post. You can't be surprise that people are calling you on it.
It's not like you went into a random thread and said "I'm not a big fan."
i didn't say it was wrong of people to like bubblegum...is it wrong to ask them if they do?
i don't....that was just me saying "hey... i don't, do you?"
nowhere did i start acting like an elitist douche ....
I just get attacked because i have a conflicting opinion and some of the herd don't like that..oh fucking well..you want me to apologies for not being thrilled to death with a song? don't start holding your breath.
You know exactly the reaction you were looking for. And you got it, and you act surprised.
This is not bubblegum pop music, it's slightly less abrasive than their usual stuff. But in saying it the way you did, you riled people up by insinuating that it's ok for them to like bubblegum pop, as if this was the case.
I don't expect an apology. I expect a thank you, for keeping yor opinoin at the top for everyone to see. Over and over and over and over.
Yeah, there's a lot of great material for a good stoner mix, but I've found it incredibly difficult to put together mixes that people will listen to that aren't familiar with the band. Efforts to convince two gf's in a row that this is a band worth listening to have failed. They're the only band I listen to that has that problem.
i don't see it as a problem....it's the reason i love this band...they don't make shit that sounds like other bands...they were more concerned with making art than pulling in fans...which in turn gave us their best material.
agreed
this sounds something like a 14-18 year old will listen to and go wow this is pearl jam i thought they were more rock and less poppy. this def can be used in a ad for say like target.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
while the vibe is upbeat/poppy the lyrics are hardly that way.
yesterday i got so old
i felt like i could die
yesterday i got so old
it made me want to cry
go on go on
just walk away
go on go on
your choice is made
go on go on
and disappear
go on go on
away from here
those lyrics are hardly upbeat/poppy
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
You know exactly the reaction you were looking for. And you got it, and you act surprised.
This is not bubblegum pop music, it's slightly less abrasive than their usual stuff. But in saying it the way you did, you riled people up by insinuating that it's ok for them to like bubblegum pop, as if this was the case.
I don't expect an apology. I expect a thank you, for keeping yor opinoin at the top for everyone to see. Over and over and over and over.
U R A Crazy Breed thinks this song sucks.
i'm sorry you find deep, thought provoking music abrasive..and if i feel contempt for bubblegum that doesn't mean i feel it for the people who like it...it's just how I feel about it.
and gee.....seeing as most threads on this fucking board are based on opinion that rely upon feed back based on other peoples opinions i don't understand what your trying to say
while the vibe is upbeat/poppy the lyrics are hardly that way.
yesterday i got so old
i felt like i could die
yesterday i got so old
it made me want to cry
go on go on
just walk away
go on go on
your choice is made
go on go on
and disappear
go on go on
away from here
those lyrics are hardly upbeat/poppy
Have you read the lyrics to the fixer? Does it really scream pop?
while the vibe is upbeat/poppy the lyrics are hardly that way.
yesterday i got so old
i felt like i could die
yesterday i got so old
it made me want to cry
go on go on
just walk away
go on go on
your choice is made
go on go on
and disappear
go on go on
away from here
those lyrics are hardly upbeat/poppy
"I’ll say your prayers I’ll take your side
I’ll burn as a way to make light
I’ll dig your grave
We'll dance and sing
What’s saved could be
One last lifetime"
Those aren't bad lyrics.. the begining starts off perhaps as through the perspective of a happy child.
i'm sorry you find deep, thought provoking music abrasive..and if i feel contempt for bubblegum that doesn't mean i feel it for the people who like it...it's just how I feel about it.
and gee.....seeing as most threads on this fucking board are based on opinion that rely upon feed back based on other peoples opinions i don't understand what your trying to say
I dont find their other songs abrasive, but radio does. Have you heard "Save You" on the radio?
Thought provoking......I think this song IS thought provoking. I just don't hink you have thought about it cause you are too caught up on the sound. If you read the words, there is
more there than you give it credit for.
Not every song should be a Jeremy, long road, WWS. Some should be big waves, some should be lukins, and some should be fixers.
And you are free to your opinion, as am I. I just think you went about
making it in a way that rubbed people wrong.
hey...whipping..Satan's bed....hail hail...save you...all upbeat fast tunes...not one of them sounds "poppy"
Are you kidding?
'Already! In Love!' how is that not a poppy chorus?
who made, who made up, made up the myth
that we were born to be covered in bliss?
who set the standard, born to be rich?
such fine examples, skinny little bitch
model, role model, roll some models in blood
get some flesh to stick, so they look like us
i shit and i stink, i'm real, join the club
i'd stop and talk, but i'm already in love
hahahahaha....yeah...that's so poppy :roll:
and musically it rocks the shit out of the fixer...that's the biggest part...it's like..where the fuck is Mike in this song?(fixer)
while the vibe is upbeat/poppy the lyrics are hardly that way.
yesterday i got so old
i felt like i could die
yesterday i got so old
it made me want to cry
go on go on
just walk away
go on go on
your choice is made
go on go on
and disappear
go on go on
away from here
those lyrics are hardly upbeat/poppy
What's that got to do with anything? He said it sounds like the Cure, not that the lyrics are Cure lyrics. The fact is that the Cure have plenty of upbeat, poppy songs... a huge part of their success was their ability to blend pop songs with dark lyrics.
"I’ll say your prayers I’ll take your side
I’ll burn as a way to make light
I’ll dig your grave
We'll dance and sing
What’s saved could be
One last lifetime"
Those aren't bad lyrics.. the begining starts off perhaps as through the perspective of a happy child.
agreed up until those lyrics its all happy and stuff. i dont know i guess i wasn't expecting a top 40 pop hit where 12-16 year olds will go buy cd at there local target. i was expecting something along a combination of yield/no code/self titled
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
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Seriuosly, when I have friends over and am making a party playlist, there's only a few PJ songs from their hundreds I can actually throw on it.. unless everyone is getting high, but that's another story.
Here to die.
Scared alive.
i didn't say it was wrong of people to like bubblegum...is it wrong to ask them if they do?
i don't....that was just me saying "hey... i don't, do you?"
nowhere did i start acting like an elitist douche ....
I just get attacked because i have a conflicting opinion and some of the herd don't like that..oh fucking well..you want me to apologies for not being thrilled to death with a song? don't start holding your breath.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Even though I don't care for The Fixer, I agree that fast upbeat songs are a good thing. But I don't see how you can say they've done ENOUGH experimenting. What have they experimented with? When have they ever stepped out of their comfort zone? I know there's Stupid Mop and stuff like that....but that was over 10 years ago. They never do things like instrumentals, fading one song into another, or orchestrations (sans Parting Ways). They never use non-musical overdubs like the voices on Dark Side of the Moon or the radio stations on Queens of the Stone Age's Songs for the Deaf. They never use any instruments outside of guitar, bass, drums, and B3 except for novelty songs like Soon Forget and Bugs. They would never completely jump genres (like Zeppelin with Hog Dog or The Beastie Boys Country album). So where's the experimenting?
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Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Yeah, there's a lot of great material for a good stoner mix, but I've found it incredibly difficult to put together mixes that people will listen to that aren't familiar with the band. Efforts to convince two gf's in a row that this is a band worth listening to have failed. They're the only band I listen to that has that problem.
Are you kidding?
'Already! In Love!' how is that not a poppy chorus?
i don't see it as a problem....it's the reason i love this band...they don't make shit that sounds like other bands...they were more concerned with making art than pulling in fans...which in turn gave us their best material.
And Hail Hail
This is not bubblegum pop music, it's slightly less abrasive than their usual stuff. But in saying it the way you did, you riled people up by insinuating that it's ok for them to like bubblegum pop, as if this was the case.
I don't expect an apology. I expect a thank you, for keeping yor opinoin at the top for everyone to see. Over and over and over and over.
U R A Crazy Breed thinks this song sucks.
Here to die.
Scared alive.
Why would this ever be a good thing? Does anyone want them to do a country album? Aren't Drifting and Thin Air close enough?
"In Between Days"
"Just Like Heaven"
"Why can't I be with You"
Friday, I'm in Love!!!
Not upbeat and poppy???? Really???
this sounds something like a 14-18 year old will listen to and go wow this is pearl jam i thought they were more rock and less poppy. this def can be used in a ad for say like target.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Here to die.
Scared alive.
while the vibe is upbeat/poppy the lyrics are hardly that way.
yesterday i got so old
i felt like i could die
yesterday i got so old
it made me want to cry
go on go on
just walk away
go on go on
your choice is made
go on go on
and disappear
go on go on
away from here
those lyrics are hardly upbeat/poppy
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
i'm sorry you find deep, thought provoking music abrasive..and if i feel contempt for bubblegum that doesn't mean i feel it for the people who like it...it's just how I feel about it.
and gee.....seeing as most threads on this fucking board are based on opinion that rely upon feed back based on other peoples opinions i don't understand what your trying to say
Have you read the lyrics to the fixer? Does it really scream pop?
I'll dig your grave
Here to die.
Scared alive.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
"I’ll say your prayers I’ll take your side
I’ll burn as a way to make light
I’ll dig your grave
We'll dance and sing
What’s saved could be
One last lifetime"
Those aren't bad lyrics.. the begining starts off perhaps as through the perspective of a happy child.
I dont find their other songs abrasive, but radio does. Have you heard "Save You" on the radio?
Thought provoking......I think this song IS thought provoking. I just don't hink you have thought about it cause you are too caught up on the sound. If you read the words, there is
more there than you give it credit for.
Not every song should be a Jeremy, long road, WWS. Some should be big waves, some should be lukins, and some should be fixers.
And you are free to your opinion, as am I. I just think you went about
making it in a way that rubbed people wrong.
Here to die.
Scared alive.
who made, who made up, made up the myth
that we were born to be covered in bliss?
who set the standard, born to be rich?
such fine examples, skinny little bitch
model, role model, roll some models in blood
get some flesh to stick, so they look like us
i shit and i stink, i'm real, join the club
i'd stop and talk, but i'm already in love
hahahahaha....yeah...that's so poppy :roll:
and musically it rocks the shit out of the fixer...that's the biggest part...it's like..where the fuck is Mike in this song?(fixer)
What's that got to do with anything? He said it sounds like the Cure, not that the lyrics are Cure lyrics. The fact is that the Cure have plenty of upbeat, poppy songs... a huge part of their success was their ability to blend pop songs with dark lyrics.
Here to die.
Scared alive.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?