most of this thread proves that Eddie could pull an OJ and there would be threads on here as to why he is great and did nothing wrong.
I think you're in a bit of denial and very judgmental of most of the people on this board. No need to defend anyone on my part. Your mind is made up. Do you judge everyone in real life this way or just the ones you read online?
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I don't know. It does definitely seem like ticket prices are getting higher and higher every tour. I first saw PJ back in 2000, and I think it was like $28.00. I know a lot of other bands that are much more expensive than PJ is, but they've definitely joined the ranks of the higher-priced bands IMO.
I guess times have changed. They all have kids now and they're getting older and they're considering how to make a profit off of what they're doing. Plus with people downloading music illegally, I'm guessing it's harder for most artists to make profits off of albums, so they have to make all their money off touring.
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most of this thread proves that Eddie could pull an OJ and there would be threads on here as to why he is great and did nothing wrong.
I think you're in a bit of denial and very judgmental of most of the people on this board. No need to defend anyone on my part. Your mind is made up. Do you judge everyone in real life this way or just the ones you read online?
I'm not judging anyone personally. I'm just saying there is a large majority of this board that will never critize the band under any circumstances and will get upset if anyone else chooses to do so. I'm not singling anyone out personally, but criticizing the band doesn't make you any less of a fan
PEARL JAM star EDDIE VEDDER fears he'll have to increase concert ticket prices after years of fighting to keep them low - because fans keep stealing his songs. The rocker was one of the leading voices against high ticket fees - and famously took on Ticketmaster in America - but now he feels downloading is killing music and he'll need to seek profits elsewhere. Vedder says, "A lot of people are getting your music without having to pay, and it's only $12. "I ordered eggs at a little restaurant in Seattle and it was $9.50. I was thinking, 'You can't spend two extra bucks for a record that you put your heart and soul into?' "I think the problem is to charge more for tickets, which is something we've always been abhorrent to do; either that or you're gonna have to start accepting sponsorships, or start selling your music to Viagra. "I'm not sure how we'll do it. I'm glad we gave money away when we did - when it came in from making records. We kind of spread it around and helped people in our community and abroad in different ways."
so here's the question....would all you who are pissed at the high ticket prices be ok if they're tours were sponsored and the ticket prices were lower?
PEARL JAM star EDDIE VEDDER fears he'll have to increase concert ticket prices after years of fighting to keep them low - because fans keep stealing his songs. The rocker was one of the leading voices against high ticket fees - and famously took on Ticketmaster in America - but now he feels downloading is killing music and he'll need to seek profits elsewhere. Vedder says, "A lot of people are getting your music without having to pay, and it's only $12. "I ordered eggs at a little restaurant in Seattle and it was $9.50. I was thinking, 'You can't spend two extra bucks for a record that you put your heart and soul into?' "I think the problem is to charge more for tickets, which is something we've always been abhorrent to do; either that or you're gonna have to start accepting sponsorships, or start selling your music to Viagra. "I'm not sure how we'll do it. I'm glad we gave money away when we did - when it came in from making records. We kind of spread it around and helped people in our community and abroad in different ways."
so here's the question....would all you who are pissed at the high ticket prices be ok if they're tours were sponsored and the ticket prices were lower?
is there any proof that a sponsorship would lower prices? the verizon deal didnt seem to have helped... at the end of the day i would be pro anything that saves me $$$
PEARL JAM star EDDIE VEDDER fears he'll have to increase concert ticket prices after years of fighting to keep them low - because fans keep stealing his songs. The rocker was one of the leading voices against high ticket fees - and famously took on Ticketmaster in America - but now he feels downloading is killing music and he'll need to seek profits elsewhere. Vedder says, "A lot of people are getting your music without having to pay, and it's only $12. "I ordered eggs at a little restaurant in Seattle and it was $9.50. I was thinking, 'You can't spend two extra bucks for a record that you put your heart and soul into?' "I think the problem is to charge more for tickets, which is something we've always been abhorrent to do; either that or you're gonna have to start accepting sponsorships, or start selling your music to Viagra. "I'm not sure how we'll do it. I'm glad we gave money away when we did - when it came in from making records. We kind of spread it around and helped people in our community and abroad in different ways."
so here's the question....would all you who are pissed at the high ticket prices be ok if they're tours were sponsored and the ticket prices were lower?
like last year when it was sponsored by Verizon Wireless?
hahaha so the band allowing verizon customers to download songs to their phones is sponsorship?
question....i didn't attend any shows last year....on the tickets, did it say "verizon wireless presents pearl jam"? was there any signage that said this?
hahaha so the band allowing verizon customers to download songs to their phones is sponsorship?
question....i didn't attend any shows last year....on the tickets, did it say "verizon wireless presents pearl jam"? was there any signage that said this?
i recall seeing a picture that had something on the MSG screen about verizon... might have been "presents"... i would definitely consider it a sponsorship... god knows there was already a good amount of bitching about that... but like i said, had it lowered tickets by $20 im sure that wouldve been lessened
hahaha so the band allowing verizon customers to download songs to their phones is sponsorship?
question....i didn't attend any shows last year....on the tickets, did it say "verizon wireless presents pearl jam"? was there any signage that said this?
I believe it did, Verizon also gave tickets away to the troops at Virginia Beach. I couldn't say for sure or not about the tickets since the show I went to was at the Verizon Amphitheater
hahaha so the band allowing verizon customers to download songs to their phones is sponsorship?
question....i didn't attend any shows last year....on the tickets, did it say "verizon wireless presents pearl jam"? was there any signage that said this?
i recall seeing a picture that had something on the MSG screen about verizon... might have been "presents"... i would definitely consider it a sponsorship... god knows there was already a good amount of bitching about that... but like i said, had it lowered tickets by $20 im sure that wouldve been lessened
when kelly curtis was talking about the target deal, he said the band is trying to get their music out in a variety of ways...one of them was the verizon d/ls....i seriously doubt verizon paid the band and if they did it was nominal...when a tour is sponsored the sponsor wants everybody to know they're footing the bill
hahaha so the band allowing verizon customers to download songs to their phones is sponsorship?
question....i didn't attend any shows last year....on the tickets, did it say "verizon wireless presents pearl jam"? was there any signage that said this?
I believe it did, Verizon also gave tickets away to the troops at Virginia Beach. I couldn't say for sure or not about the tickets since the show I went to was at the Verizon Amphitheater
well that's verizon sponsoring the venue...hence they have tickets to give to troops (which is cool btw...didn't know that)
hahaha so the band allowing verizon customers to download songs to their phones is sponsorship?
question....i didn't attend any shows last year....on the tickets, did it say "verizon wireless presents pearl jam"? was there any signage that said this?
i recall seeing a picture that had something on the MSG screen about verizon... might have been "presents"... i would definitely consider it a sponsorship... god knows there was already a good amount of bitching about that... but like i said, had it lowered tickets by $20 im sure that wouldve been lessened
when kelly curtis was talking about the target deal, he said the band is trying to get their music out in a variety of ways...one of them was the verizon d/ls....i seriously doubt verizon paid the band and if they did it was nominal...when a tour is sponsored the sponsor wants everybody to know they're footing the bill
i recall seeing a picture that had something on the MSG screen about verizon... might have been "presents"... i would definitely consider it a sponsorship... god knows there was already a good amount of bitching about that... but like i said, had it lowered tickets by $20 im sure that wouldve been lessened
when kelly curtis was talking about the target deal, he said the band is trying to get their music out in a variety of ways...one of them was the verizon d/ls....i seriously doubt verizon paid the band and if they did it was nominal...when a tour is sponsored the sponsor wants everybody to know they're footing the bill
PEARL JAM star EDDIE VEDDER fears he'll have to increase concert ticket prices after years of fighting to keep them low - because fans keep stealing his songs. The rocker was one of the leading voices against high ticket fees - and famously took on Ticketmaster in America - but now he feels downloading is killing music and he'll need to seek profits elsewhere. Vedder says, "A lot of people are getting your music without having to pay, and it's only $12. "I ordered eggs at a little restaurant in Seattle and it was $9.50. I was thinking, 'You can't spend two extra bucks for a record that you put your heart and soul into?' "I think the problem is to charge more for tickets, which is something we've always been abhorrent to do; either that or you're gonna have to start accepting sponsorships, or start selling your music to Viagra. "I'm not sure how we'll do it. I'm glad we gave money away when we did - when it came in from making records. We kind of spread it around and helped people in our community and abroad in different ways."
I am not seeing Pearl Jam this year for that plain and simple reason that is way too much to spend on a ticket in my opinion. Pearl Jam falls in my top 5 fav bands, but that is to much for me to spend on a ticket. Plus like others said travel comes into play. Chicago is the closest show for me, so I would be looking at a minimum of $300 for the show, food and hotel. If you got the cash I say go for it.
But, those of you that say the prices are high due to the rising costs of touring I don't completely buy that. The Black Crowes, which are no. 1 on my list, I will see them three times this year. Total for one ticket to each of three shows is less that $83.50 all together.
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I'm not judging anyone personally. I'm just saying there is a large majority of this board that will never critize the band under any circumstances and will get upset if anyone else chooses to do so. I'm not singling anyone out personally, but criticizing the band doesn't make you any less of a fan
I'm not judging anyone personally. I'm just saying there is a large majority of this board that will never critize the band under any circumstances and will get upset if anyone else chooses to do so. I'm not singling anyone out personally, but criticizing the band doesn't make you any less of a fan
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But, those of you that say the prices are high due to the rising costs of touring I don't completely buy that. The Black Crowes, which are no. 1 on my list, I will see them three times this year. Total for one ticket to each of three shows is less that $83.50 all together.
Hmmm lets throw demand for black crowes tickets on the scale.... ok good... now lets throw demand for pearl jam tickets over on the other side..... FUCK! where did the black crowes go????
Another thought... why is everyone bitching about maybe giving a little back for the almost 20 years of music. You are all ungrateful *********... there I said it. If you cant afford it cause you are broke for whatever reason, TOO BAD, why is that then the artist's fault for trying to get top dollar for their talents? Fair market value for their twenty years of hard work.
Hey does anyone also realize Ben Fucking Harper is opening for the majority of the shows? Ungrateful....
P.S. It is standard practice for Pearl Jam to donate concert monies to people that need it... Ungra... oh forget it....
Food for thought if you have to travel to see them. Just sayin paid $55 to see Bruce with the E Street Band and $47.25 for Green Day with excellent fan club seats this summer, to a venue five minutes from my office and less than an hour home. Completely hassle free and a very good time with my child. Don't know what Bruce fan club seats cost in Philly but believe GD was the same everywhere in the US. Both sold huge portions of the arena to fan club members first so fewer tix were available for the masses. To see PJ at the nearest venue would cost me about $200 a ticket (assuming you get 10c tickets) with travel expenses added, not to mention the extra vacation/sick day to get there and back. I think everyone sort of lost sight of the real cost not being just the price of a ticket to the show anymore to rationalize support for a pricey ticket, IMO. I have seen them enough to say they are a great live band that I continue to enjoy and love their music dearly but that is more than I can justify paying for 2 hours of (duly noted-excellent) music. I can only think of about one artist I would pay that to see perform now. Maybe it's my age and being a parent that has changed my priorities, not just my bank account. But as the saying goes, 'one man's gold is another's folly' and opinions are like assholes, everyone has got one.
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PEARL JAM star EDDIE VEDDER fears he'll have to increase concert ticket prices after years of fighting to keep them low - because fans keep stealing his songs. The rocker was one of the leading voices against high ticket fees - and famously took on Ticketmaster in America - but now he feels downloading is killing music and he'll need to seek profits elsewhere. Vedder says, "A lot of people are getting your music without having to pay, and it's only $12. "I ordered eggs at a little restaurant in Seattle and it was $9.50. I was thinking, 'You can't spend two extra bucks for a record that you put your heart and soul into?' "I think the problem is to charge more for tickets, which is something we've always been abhorrent to do; either that or you're gonna have to start accepting sponsorships, or start selling your music to Viagra. "I'm not sure how we'll do it. I'm glad we gave money away when we did - when it came in from making records. We kind of spread it around and helped people in our community and abroad in different ways."
hahahaha. So their reasoning is they charge $85 to people that spend $20 a year to be in the fan club, buy the albums on vinyl and CD, buy posters, shirts, hoodies and every other trinkets they can manage to slap their name on so they can make up profits they lose by people illegally downloading?
1) most fans aren't 10c members
2) most fans members or not do not buy all the crap 10c sells
if i remember correctly, the profit from crap the 10c sells supports the fan club
touring and record sales are the 2 biggest revenue makers for all bands....take away record sales and all you're got left is touring....considering there are 5 members plus boom and the crew to pay for i'd say ticket prices are reasonable considering it's a luxury item and not a right
just say the correct thing for this threat...dont need to put any word more..
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The problem people are having is that everything this band stood for is now out the window. They used to fight Ticketmaster to keep prices down and now they are gouging their fans. Some of you blindly stick up for everything they do, they could come out with an album where they only chant Buddhist hymns and somewhere on here there would be threads devoted to how great the album is. People have a fair argument when they ask if $83 is too much. I know Pearl Jam in 1995 wouldn't charge $50 for a show(which could be relative to $85 today)- and they also wouldn't have signed a deal with Target. These are all fair points, you might disagree, but don't pass them off like they are stupid to suggest.
This is exactly it. And comparing prices for other big shows this summer (Phish $55, Green Day $47.50), PJ is definitely the high end of pricing, which is even more puzzling given the Recession we're in. The guys have changed their values, I believe, but it's hard to figure out for sure, as there's no communication between band and fans anymore. It would be great to hear from them...
ill pay more than $83.50 to see the best rock band in the world.....
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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I'd rather pearl Jam accept a damn sponsorship than gouge me $35 per fucking ticket. My god, let Budweiser put up a sign and save me $35. Hell I'm going to drink their product either way. $85 a ticket is ridiculous.
they did that last year with Verizon and ticket were $73
Radiohead who is arguably bigger than Pearl Jam keeps good seats under $60, lawn/nose bleeds are $35 without sponsorship of the tour, they have just as many guys to pay and even have more equipment because they lug around a LED lighting show.
I hate comparing Pearl Jam to Radiohead all the time, but they seem to share similar values (or did at one time) and they are both huge bands that draw good crowds
PEARL JAM -radiohead.. the distance between them is huge,,,if we put them in the same litim,,ill go to put the maria callas cd to lishen,,
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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bottomline - the choice is yours.
pearl jam has the right to set their price for what they deem fair/marketable, to decide their profit margin, etc....and you as the consumer have the right to accept or reject said price. don't like it, don't buy it.
(and no, i am not suggesting people not say and discuss what they like...i am merely talking specifically towards our own actions/controls)
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83.50 is too high and the band should be ashamed of themselves! That being said, I will be purchasing tickets to both Philly shows.
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I love when people talk about their first PJ show costing so much less. Hello, everything was less in 15-20 years ago. I just paid $75 to see Eddie. I dont think an extra 8 bucks is a stretch for the entire band.
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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I love when people talk about their first PJ show costing so much less. Hello, everything was less in 15-20 years ago. I just paid $75 to see Eddie. I dont think an extra 8 bucks is a stretch for the entire band.
I'm not talkin bout 20 years ago. I compare foo fighters last year. 65 bucks at the Joint in Vegas and 55 bucks at conseco fieldhouse in indy. A FAR cry from 83.50 and their show KICKED ASS!!!!!!!!!!!
Again, you can pay this ludicrous price if you choose. I just choose NOT to. I'll wait for another Foo show or another STP show at 45 bucks.
PEARL JAM - foo fighters.......ok,,i have a better voice than Pavarotti..and Domingo,,
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I think you're in a bit of denial and very judgmental of most of the people on this board. No need to defend anyone on my part. Your mind is made up. Do you judge everyone in real life this way or just the ones you read online?
"New music, new friends. Pearl Jam."
I like our socks. I hear we make a fine sock. I always say, You might not love our records, but I think you'll like our socks. - Stone
"This record is us speaking out in class." -EV on PJ
I guess times have changed. They all have kids now and they're getting older and they're considering how to make a profit off of what they're doing. Plus with people downloading music illegally, I'm guessing it's harder for most artists to make profits off of albums, so they have to make all their money off touring.
I'm not judging anyone personally. I'm just saying there is a large majority of this board that will never critize the band under any circumstances and will get upset if anyone else chooses to do so. I'm not singling anyone out personally, but criticizing the band doesn't make you any less of a fan
so here's the question....would all you who are pissed at the high ticket prices be ok if they're tours were sponsored and the ticket prices were lower?
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like last year when it was sponsored by Verizon Wireless?
question....i didn't attend any shows last year....on the tickets, did it say "verizon wireless presents pearl jam"? was there any signage that said this?
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I believe it did, Verizon also gave tickets away to the troops at Virginia Beach. I couldn't say for sure or not about the tickets since the show I went to was at the Verizon Amphitheater
when kelly curtis was talking about the target deal, he said the band is trying to get their music out in a variety of ways...one of them was the verizon d/ls....i seriously doubt verizon paid the band and if they did it was nominal...when a tour is sponsored the sponsor wants everybody to know they're footing the bill
well that's verizon sponsoring the venue...hence they have tickets to give to troops (which is cool btw...didn't know that)
Verizon most definitely paid them as did Target.
and you know this how?
that's a bit extreme. Saying you'd pay out the ass for a concert ticket is one thing.. but "pulling an OJ" would change things I do think.
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But, those of you that say the prices are high due to the rising costs of touring I don't completely buy that. The Black Crowes, which are no. 1 on my list, I will see them three times this year. Total for one ticket to each of three shows is less that $83.50 all together.
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Hmmm lets throw demand for black crowes tickets on the scale.... ok good... now lets throw demand for pearl jam tickets over on the other side..... FUCK! where did the black crowes go????
Another thought... why is everyone bitching about maybe giving a little back for the almost 20 years of music. You are all ungrateful *********... there I said it. If you cant afford it cause you are broke for whatever reason, TOO BAD, why is that then the artist's fault for trying to get top dollar for their talents? Fair market value for their twenty years of hard work.
Hey does anyone also realize Ben Fucking Harper is opening for the majority of the shows? Ungrateful....
P.S. It is standard practice for Pearl Jam to donate concert monies to people that need it... Ungra... oh forget it....
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”